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Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.07.05 08:38:00 - [1] Please feel free to add your own random crap to the thread Sentry Guns Most of eve will tell you a load of rubbish regarding these, so heres some actual facts. 1: They Deal all damage types 2: All 0.1 > 0.5 Sentry guns deal the same damage regardless of region (Shut it Caldari fanboi's, yours aren't more uber!) 3: To be outside of sentry gun range you simply need to be 150km+ from the gate/station. Target Range or Range to the sentry guns themselves is irrelivant. Though sitting right next to the guns might make bad things happen if someone wants to fight you 4: A smartbomb cannot be activate within 5km of the sentry gun. SmartPocs are a insta using shuttle/cepters worst nightmare 5: Wage war on that Billboard !! it can be destroyed easily... unfortunatly it respawns in about 30 seconds. 6: Shooting sentry guns will cause them to fire back one shot regardless of range. If you where ever sad enough to try and snipe with a stealth bomber DONT try this (Is it even possible ? I dont fly them) Random Crap 1: Mashing f1-f8 then holding controll and clicking on your own ship makes for hillarious side affects while camping with corp mates. First person to lock you gets a nice suprise. Brilliant fun if your afk and cant switch the guns off ! And urrr thats all im going to put as my manager fails to see the relationship between IT and pew pew spaceships, fool Alliaanna Official Spokestard of=-= Does Not Compute =-=
Ehker Gerete	Posted - 2006.07.05 10:57:00 - [2] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Mashing f1-f8 then holding controll and clicking on your own ship makes for hillarious side affects while camping with corp mates. First person to lock you gets a nice suprise. LOL. Please keep your signature below the 24000 bytes limit.- Pirlouit There. Fixed. - Ehker
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.07.05 15:05:00 - [3] Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 05/07/2006 15:08:48 Quote: 2: All 0.1 > 0.5 Sentry guns deal the same damage regardless of region (Shut it Caldari fanboi's, yours aren't more uber!) I hope you tried this one out yourself. Like with a faction or very expensive ship Security status doesn't define the protection of concord btw. --------------- Vile - Recruiting 0.0 Pirates ---------------
Kadreal	Posted - 2006.07.06 03:43:00 - [4] The angle of the scanner is based on the direction your camera is looking, not the direction your ship is looking.
Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.07.06 07:01:00 - [5] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 05/07/2006 15:08:48 Quote: 2: All 0.1 > 0.5 Sentry guns deal the same damage regardless of region (Shut it Caldari fanboi's, yours aren't more uber!) I hope you tried this one out yourself. Like with a faction or very expensive ship Security status doesn't define the protection of concord btw. Meant 0.1-0.4. But yes while drunk I have tested out 0.5's capabilities Poor battleship !! 2 silly barges went pop though Alliaanna Official Spokestard of=-= Does Not Compute =-=
Maleph	Posted - 2006.07.06 08:35:00 - [6] Quote: 5: Wage war on that Billboard !! it can be destroyed easily... unfortunatly it respawns in about 30 seconds. I tried that and the Sentry Guns got on me
Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.07.06 09:27:00 - [7] Originally by: Maleph Quote: 5: Wage war on that Billboard !! it can be destroyed easily... unfortunatly it respawns in about 30 seconds. I tried that and the Sentry Guns got on me Take a bigger ship and show that bastid who's boss Alliaanna Official Spokestard of=-= Does Not Compute =-=
Lusimdoor Lighitbrine	Posted - 2006.07.06 09:39:00 - [8] gate camping destroying indys and cruisers with my thoraz....how fun it is :)Adn just so u know, sentry guns are buggy so u want to be 155km+ out. and u CANT destroy sentry guns for allyou noobs out there that want to try.
GruFF83	Posted - 2006.07.06 13:59:00 - [9] how would i setup my raven for sentry tanking? hypothetically speak ofcourse :P and how long would the tank hold out?
Aeaus	Posted - 2006.07.06 14:26:00 - [10] Originally by: GruFF83 how would i setup my raven for sentry tanking? hypothetically speak ofcourse :P and how long would the tank hold out? Nothing all that specific, I think the standard PvP Raven can easily tank sentries. I think they do about 173DPS each. My Guides (Recomended Reading)
GruFF83	Posted - 2006.07.06 15:37:00 - [11] Originally by: Aeaus Originally by: GruFF83 how would i setup my raven for sentry tanking? hypothetically speak ofcourse :P and how long would the tank hold out? Nothing all that specific, I think the standard PvP Raven can easily tank sentries. I think they do about 173DPS each. can anyone confirm?
Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.07.06 16:49:00 - [12] I can confirm that theres no way a standard PvP raven is going tank idefinatly.... But long enough to kill bc and smaller, or craply fitted battleships sure. Alliaanna Official Spokestard of=-= Does Not Compute =-=
Lojik	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:26:00 - [13] If using a MWD to aproach your target to get into optimal remember to disengage it BEFORE you reach your optimal distance as it takes a little while for the speed to drop off, recommend having your ship go in for an orbit when MWd'in to stop busting the optimal.
Yumiko Mitsu	Posted - 2006.07.07 01:30:00 - [14] Never MWD Towards something that's shooting at you. You will get hurt!
JoeT	Posted - 2006.07.07 05:12:00 - [15] Originally by: Lusimdoor Lighitbrine gate camping destroying indys and cruisers with my thoraz....how fun it is :)Adn just so u know, sentry guns are buggy so u want to be 155km+ out. and u CANT destroy sentry guns for allyou noobs out there that want to try. I have sat at 150km and no issues. Cross to 149,999.999 and they engage. step back to 150km and i got two nice yellow locks O_O --- Murder Murder, yes indeed, K-I-L-L-I-N-G
Bloodsong	Posted - 2006.07.07 18:51:00 - [16] the f1-f8 owns, just make sure you turn on your hards before you go all auto engage.... In a basic t2 raven, you can tank the guns at the gate for about 2 min before you hit armor. Slap on a semi-good armor tank (dont knock it till you try it for a serious empire gank) with a DC and you can hold out long enough to take down most anything, keep in mind your dps sucks due to the lack of bcu's. Its a good idea to carry a dc on anything you fly. In my typical hunting setup, its all about shields, but after your target is down and the guns are REALLY po'ed the 50% resist to hull can be the difference between pwnage and "well, atleast i popped the hauler"
ArmaggedonPSA	Posted - 2006.07.12 16:49:00 - [17] Love the sig typh "Take What Ya Can, Give Nothing Back"
JoeT	Posted - 2006.07.12 18:38:00 - [18] If you can get a freind in a certain ship, you can tank the senties forever in lowsec --- Murder Murder, yes indeed, K-I-L-L-I-N-G
Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.07.13 06:25:00 - [19] Edited by: Alliaanna Dalaii on 13/07/2006 06:26:51 Urrrr ta Arma, though i'm not sure who this Typh is your talking about Your probably the only bloke in RHN I feel guilty about stealing from.... Nothing personal. Ive never claimed to be anything but a pirate, or a nice bloke. It was time to move on and I took whatever assets I could with me when I left. Good luck in teh future And if you want to kill me (I'd imagine you might lol) im now living in LSC Alliaanna Official Spokestard of=-= Does Not Compute =-=
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.07.13 10:09:00 - [20] A well set-up HAC can tank sentires. Alliananna, are you absolutely sure all the sentries deal the same damage? As far as I know, they are split 2/6ths each to the racial damage types and 1/6 to the rest. So Amarr would be 1/6th kinetic and explosive and 2/6 EM and Thermal. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Zions Child	Posted - 2006.07.13 15:42:00 - [21] i have no clue if its racial or not for the sentries, but they do about 300 damage per shot, i would know, shooting CONCORD while in an ibis is fun. Can't undock at all though. _________________________________________________________________ w00t
Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:20:00 - [22] Originally by: Nyphur A well set-up HAC can tank sentires. Alliananna, are you absolutely sure all the sentries deal the same damage? As far as I know, they are split 2/6ths each to the racial damage types and 1/6 to the rest. So Amarr would be 1/6th kinetic and explosive and 2/6 EM and Thermal. They all do the same. Alliaanna Official Spokestard of=-= Does Not Compute =-=
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:42:00 - [23] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Originally by: Nyphur A well set-up HAC can tank sentires. Alliananna, are you absolutely sure all the sentries deal the same damage? As far as I know, they are split 2/6ths each to the racial damage types and 1/6 to the rest. So Amarr would be 1/6th kinetic and explosive and 2/6 EM and Thermal. They all do the same. Alliaanna Amount or damage types? I remember before being convinced they dealt the same damage types but someone said I was wrong and I forget why I was so convinced. Is there an entry in the database that shows the damage the empire sentries deal or something? I would very much like to see proof that all sentries deal the same proportions of damage. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
xeom Obsidian Sins	Posted - 2006.07.16 23:25:00 - [24] How much of each type? I think some one said EM was the most it did. CCP where are our t2 shield power relays? \| Join[..SIN]
Strong Bubba	Posted - 2006.07.17 00:08:00 - [25] Amarr sentries have lower ROF and higher dmg mod. compared to minmatar sentries.
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.07.17 00:42:00 - [26] Originally by: xeom How much of each type? I think some one said EM was the most it did. I am pretty sure gallente sentries deal: 18.18%EM, 18.18% Explosive, 31.82% Kinetic, 31.82% Thermal. And I have them down as just "sentry" here. Do they all deal that damage? Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
xeom Obsidian Sins	Posted - 2006.07.17 01:10:00 - [27] Do we have any exact #'s? Like 20EM 30EXP 50KEN 40THEM just as a example. CCP where are our t2 shield power relays? \| Join[..SIN]
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.07.17 01:31:00 - [28] Originally by: xeom Do we have any exact #'s? Like 20EM 30EXP 50KEN 40THEM just as a example. 16 EM, 16 Expl, 18 Kin, 28 Therm, Damage Mod: 3.5, Rate of Fire: 1.75. That's what I have down here for "sentry". Not sure when I made that or where it came from but I think it was the data export. Why can't I find that data now? O_o. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.17 07:12:00 - [29] No idea, I just remember the old export data on Eve-i. They do minutely more damage on two of the types. So nyphurs numbers above are probably right. And to the alt saying amarr hit harder or something but with lower RoF ? Id make a fairly confident guesse that your wrong, And that all 0.1 - 0.4 sentry guns are exactly identical in dmg output. Post with your main (Oh the irony ) Alliaanna Official Spokestard of=-= Does Not Compute =-=
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.07.17 13:50:00 - [30] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii No idea, I just remember the old export data on Eve-i. A-ha! They must have forcibly removed it from the latest data exports (who says CCP doesn't hate pirates?). Thanks to our good friend the Wayback Machine, we have this: http://web.archive.org/web/20050209160338/www.eve-i.com/home/crowley/page/page_objectexplorer.php?id=663 Amarr Sentry Gun, EM: 16, Explosive: 16, Kinetic: 28, Thermal: 28, Damage Mod: 3.5, Rate of Fire: 1.75. Caldari Sentry Gun I, EM: 16, Explosive: 16, Kinetic: 28, Thermal: 28, Damage Mod: 3.5, Rate of Fire: 1.75. Caldari Sentry Gun II, EM: 16, Explosive: 16, Kinetic: 28, Thermal: 28, Damage Mod: 3.5, Rate of Fire: 1.75. Caldari Sentry Gun III, EM: 16, Explosive: 16, Kinetic: 28, Thermal: 28, Damage Mod: 3.5, Rate of Fire: 1.75. Minmatar Sentry Gun, EM: 16, Explosive: 16, Kinetic: 28, Thermal: 28, Damage Mod: 3.5, Rate of Fire: 1.75. Gallente Sentry Gun, EM: 16, Explosive: 16, Kinetic: 28, Thermal: 28, Damage Mod: 3.5, Rate of Fire: 1.75. I knew it got it from somewhere. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.

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