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JOSAL EXAN
Obertura
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Posted - 2014.07.24 13:27:00 -
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After watching GD for some time now, I think I have found a cure for the bitter vet disease. For me, it's clear it's not about what CCP brings or doesn't bring. It's not about promises not kept. Its about fear. A deadly fear.
A great rule for EVE is "don't fly what you cannot loose"
as a cure to BitVet is would suggest:
If you are so afraid of loosing your thing (could by ISK, Sov, Positions, Reputation), that you see any change CCP makes as something you have to rant about, its time to give it all away and start fresh and new. That way, you have lost soo much, that it will feel like a relieve to you and you might enjoy the game again.
As the inventor of the BitVet cure, I would suggest that you leave all your ISK en stuff to me. I will make sure that it all will be disposed of in a good way. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3866
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Posted - 2014.07.24 13:33:00 -
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I think you've missed the mark, since with Crius, it's not bittervets that are complaining. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Victor Andall
658
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Posted - 2014.07.24 13:34:00 -
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I think shitposting is a much worse disease.
Have you gotten yourself checked out lately, OP? I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do? |

JOSAL EXAN
Obertura
3
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Posted - 2014.07.24 13:43:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:I think you've missed the mark, since with Crius, it's not bittervets that are complaining.
I see remarks complaining that CCP doesn't react to a thread, but they do. Complaining its another bad patch. I see complains that the wrong things are being fixed or nothing is being fixed. That sounds bittervet to me. |

JOSAL EXAN
Obertura
3
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Posted - 2014.07.24 13:45:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:I think shitposting is a much worse disease.
Have you gotten yourself checked out lately, OP?
You know better than to ask me that. In the waiting room of the docter you where there. You told me you had a severe case of clamydia and i told you i had the runs. So you now I was checked out. |

Victor Andall
660
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Posted - 2014.07.24 13:50:00 -
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JOSAL EXAN wrote:Victor Andall wrote:I think shitposting is a much worse disease.
Have you gotten yourself checked out lately, OP? You know better than to ask me that. In the waiting room of the docter you where there. You told me you had a severe case of clamydia and i told you i had the runs. So you now I was checked out.
Bravo, sir! I declare myself defeated in this game of wits. Why not since I was in 1st grade have I witnessed such skill in the art of the comeback. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do? |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6400
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Posted - 2014.07.24 13:50:00 -
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JOSAL EXAN wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:I think you've missed the mark, since with Crius, it's not bittervets that are complaining. I see remarks complaining that CCP doesn't react to a thread, but they do. Complaining its another bad patch. I see complains that the wrong things are being fixed or nothing is being fixed. That sounds bittervet to me.
It sounds like Bittervet according to your definition of it
You'll find thatmost of the complainers (on that and every other topic tbqfh) are either not in the game loong, or are liars "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6400
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Posted - 2014.07.24 13:52:00 -
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wat
JOSAL EXAN wrote:you where there. Wat
JOSAL EXAN wrote:clamydia WATLOL
"Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4135
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Posted - 2014.07.24 13:53:00 -
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It is interesting to see how CCP predicted the Bitter Vet Disease quite accurately when they designed the Jovians with their Jovian Disease. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |

Ton'Ka Katsu
THE WATCHERS OF MANiskies
0
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Posted - 2014.07.24 13:56:00 -
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Lol wut? Shiptoasting this early |

JOSAL EXAN
Obertura
4
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Posted - 2014.07.24 13:59:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:JOSAL EXAN wrote:Victor Andall wrote:I think shitposting is a much worse disease.
Have you gotten yourself checked out lately, OP? You know better than to ask me that. In the waiting room of the docter you where there. You told me you had a severe case of clamydia and i told you i had the runs. So you now I was checked out. Bravo, sir! I declare myself defeated in this game of wits. Why not since I was in 1st grade have I witnessed such skill in the art of the comeback.
Thats just before you quit school?
If you look at my post, i think there is really a true thing behind it. I really think bittervets are afraid of loss. You can agree or disagree, but your reaction was asking for that reply. |

JOSAL EXAN
Obertura
4
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:01:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:You'll find thatmost of the complainers (on that and every other topic tbqfh) are either not in the game loong, or are liars
How do you see that? I mean that thaey are not long in the game? Serious question. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23285
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:01:00 -
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To quote myself from a long time ago, GÇ£One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. GÇ¥
So please forward all that ISK. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6400
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:02:00 -
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JOSAL EXAN wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:You'll find thatmost of the complainers (on that and every other topic tbqfh) are either not in the game loong, or are liars How do you see that? I mean that thaey are not long in the game? Serious question.
Check their employment history. The ealiest date is when that particular character was created, though it doesnt mean the player has been playing that long, the character could be bought in "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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JOSAL EXAN
Obertura
4
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:06:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:JOSAL EXAN wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:You'll find thatmost of the complainers (on that and every other topic tbqfh) are either not in the game loong, or are liars How do you see that? I mean that thaey are not long in the game? Serious question. Check their employment history. The ealiest date is when that particular character was created, though it doesnt mean the player has been playing that long, the character could be bought in
Or the player is posting on a new alt? |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6400
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:06:00 -
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JOSAL EXAN wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:JOSAL EXAN wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:You'll find thatmost of the complainers (on that and every other topic tbqfh) are either not in the game loong, or are liars How do you see that? I mean that thaey are not long in the game? Serious question. Check their employment history. The ealiest date is when that particular character was created, though it doesnt mean the player has been playing that long, the character could be bought in Or the player is posting on a new alt?
Example
"Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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JOSAL EXAN
Obertura
4
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:08:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Example
I don't know. They are alts. But i thought it is common to post on the forums not with your main. Am I mistaken? |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3871
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:09:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:JOSAL EXAN wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:You'll find thatmost of the complainers (on that and every other topic tbqfh) are either not in the game loong, or are liars How do you see that? I mean that thaey are not long in the game? Serious question. Check their employment history. The ealiest date is when that particular character was created, though it doesnt mean the player has been playing that long, the character could be bought in And look at this, agreeing with Ramona again. Yeah, most of those complainers are complaining because industry is "broken". But it's not actually "broken", it's just different. Us vets have been through enough changes to merely adapt and move on. I for example had my highsec industry chain back into profitable operation within a couple of hours of patching my client, even with the weird cost scaling bugs. The guys who are declaring it destroyed and packing up their POSes are newbies who are unable to adapt. They chug on through EVE IPH, and now that they suddenly have to work stuff out for themselves, their heads have imploded and they've hopped on the rage train outta here.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1034
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:10:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:I think shitposting is a much worse disease.
Have you gotten yourself checked out lately, OP? So that's what those bumps oozing out puss are? I thought it was some kind of STD. What a relief! |

Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
990
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:11:00 -
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JOSAL EXAN wrote:After watching GD for some time now, I think I have found a cure for the bitter vet disease. For me, it's clear it's not about what CCP brings or doesn't bring. It's not about promises not kept. Its about fear. A deadly fear.
A great rule for EVE is "don't fly what you cannot loose"
as a cure to BitVet is would suggest:
If you are so afraid of loosing your thing (could by ISK, Sov, Positions, Reputation), that you see any change CCP makes as something you have to rant about, its time to give it all away and start fresh and new. That way, you have lost soo much, that it will feel like a relieve to you and you might enjoy the game again.
As the inventor of the BitVet cure, I would suggest that you leave all your ISK en stuff to me. I will make sure that it all will be disposed of in a good way. I'm way more afraid of people who can't spell the word lose.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6400
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:11:00 -
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JOSAL EXAN wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Example I don't know. They are alts. But i thought it is common to post on the forums not with your main. Am I mistaken?
Its common for cowards.
Most of the quality posters here do it with their mains, or have been here so long they have veteran poasting alts "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6400
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:13:00 -
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Rhes wrote: I'm way more afraid of people who can't spell the word lose.
Lose?
FOOTLOSE!
http://www.mediafactory.org.au/holly-clark/files/2013/10/bacon-shtxa6.jpg "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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JOSAL EXAN
Obertura
4
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:15:00 -
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Rhes wrote:JOSAL EXAN wrote:After watching GD for some time now, I think I have found a cure for the bitter vet disease. For me, it's clear it's not about what CCP brings or doesn't bring. It's not about promises not kept. Its about fear. A deadly fear.
A great rule for EVE is "don't fly what you cannot loose"
as a cure to BitVet is would suggest:
If you are so afraid of loosing your thing (could by ISK, Sov, Positions, Reputation), that you see any change CCP makes as something you have to rant about, its time to give it all away and start fresh and new. That way, you have lost soo much, that it will feel like a relieve to you and you might enjoy the game again.
As the inventor of the BitVet cure, I would suggest that you leave all your ISK en stuff to me. I will make sure that it all will be disposed of in a good way. I'm way more afraid of people who can't spell the word lose.
And do you consider yourself a bitvet Rhes? |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23287
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:18:00 -
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Ugh. Now that song's stuck.
Vengeance. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
991
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:21:00 -
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JOSAL EXAN wrote:Rhes wrote:JOSAL EXAN wrote:After watching GD for some time now, I think I have found a cure for the bitter vet disease. For me, it's clear it's not about what CCP brings or doesn't bring. It's not about promises not kept. Its about fear. A deadly fear.
A great rule for EVE is "don't fly what you cannot loose"
as a cure to BitVet is would suggest:
If you are so afraid of loosing your thing (could by ISK, Sov, Positions, Reputation), that you see any change CCP makes as something you have to rant about, its time to give it all away and start fresh and new. That way, you have lost soo much, that it will feel like a relieve to you and you might enjoy the game again.
As the inventor of the BitVet cure, I would suggest that you leave all your ISK en stuff to me. I will make sure that it all will be disposed of in a good way. I'm way more afraid of people who can't spell the word lose. And do you consider yourself a bitvet Rhes? Nope. I love Eve Online.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6404
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:23:00 -
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Counterpunch! "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23290
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:26:00 -
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You are a horrible person.
Detente. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
588
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:27:00 -
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JOSAL EXAN wrote:After watching GD for some time now, I think I have found a cure for the bitter vet disease. For me, it's clear it's not about what CCP brings or doesn't bring. It's not about promises not kept. Its about fear. A deadly fear.
A great rule for EVE is "don't fly what you cannot loose"
as a cure to BitVet is would suggest:
If you are so afraid of loosing your thing (could by ISK, Sov, Positions, Reputation), that you see any change CCP makes as something you have to rant about, its time to give it all away and start fresh and new. That way, you have lost soo much, that it will feel like a relieve to you and you might enjoy the game again.
As the inventor of the BitVet cure, I would suggest that you leave all your ISK en stuff to me. I will make sure that it all will be disposed of in a good way.
No need for a cure if you stay clean. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6406
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:29:00 -
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Accepted and respected "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
43178
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:30:00 -
[30] - Quote
(Hate you both)
FINISHING MOVE
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23290
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:31:00 -
[31] - Quote
From hell's heart, I stab at thee. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6406
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:33:00 -
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NUCLEAR STRIKE "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3873
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:40:00 -
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Is this a battle of bad songs? Victory, it can be mine? The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Milan Nantucket
New Eden Misfits
136
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:41:00 -
[34] - Quote
You totally got it wrong OP. Bittervets are not bitter over losing stuffz as we are vets and know that is what the game is about. I can understand you not getting it because there have been so many bad releases that you really do not know what a good one looks like. If someone keeps handing you a turd and calling it candy you will believe it is awesome when we hand you a bigger turd. Then we are demi-gods when we hand you an actual piece of candy to compare to the turds you've been getting. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23292
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:42:00 -
[35] - Quote
On a less destructive note and as spotted when looking through the GǣrelatedGǥ lists of all that junkGǪ
HOLY HELL 21 YEARS?! How did that happen? That was the GÇ£moving van radio on the way to my first own placeGÇ¥ music.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6409
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:43:00 -
[36] - Quote
No "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6409
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:44:00 -
[37] - Quote
Tippia wrote:On a less destructive note and as spotted when looking through the GǣrelatedGǥ lists of all that junkGǪ HOLY HELL 21 YEARS?! How did that happen? That was the Gǣmoving van radio on the way to my first own placeGǥ music. 
OMG Ive been looking for that for ages! +1 +1 +1 "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
43180
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:45:00 -
[38] - Quote
Extinction Event
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23294
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:59:00 -
[39] - Quote
If that's how you want to play it.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6410
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:02:00 -
[40] - Quote
Hey we called no Chemical Weapons! "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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flakeys
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2348
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:05:00 -
[41] - Quote
JOSAL EXAN wrote:After watching GD for some time now, I think I have found a cure for the bitter vet disease. For me, it's clear it's not about what CCP brings or doesn't bring. It's not about promises not kept. Its about fear. A deadly fear.
A great rule for EVE is "don't fly what you cannot loose"
as a cure to BitVet is would suggest:
If you are so afraid of loosing your thing (could by ISK, Sov, Positions, Reputation), that you see any change CCP makes as something you have to rant about, its time to give it all away and start fresh and new. That way, you have lost soo much, that it will feel like a relieve to you and you might enjoy the game again.
As the inventor of the BitVet cure, I would suggest that you leave all your ISK en stuff to me. I will make sure that it all will be disposed of in a good way.
Uhm it is : Don't fly what you can not afford to loose. If you don't see the difference in that then you have a huge problem.
But then your request for isk makes this just a : '' OMG PLEX prices are so expensive i can't sub my account any more '' .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
43193
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:06:00 -
[42] - Quote
  

I surrender.
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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flakeys
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2348
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:08:00 -
[43] - Quote
JOSAL EXAN wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:I think you've missed the mark, since with Crius, it's not bittervets that are complaining. I see remarks complaining that CCP doesn't react to a thread, but they do.
Wich is a complaint from a guy only 2 years old , 2 years ain't VET by far.Try 8+ years now that's close to the VET mark . 
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
43193
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:13:00 -
[44] - Quote
flakeys wrote:JOSAL EXAN wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:I think you've missed the mark, since with Crius, it's not bittervets that are complaining. I see remarks complaining that CCP doesn't react to a thread, but they do. Wich is a complaint from a guy only 2 years old , 2 years ain't VET by far.Try 8+ years now that's close to the VET mark . 
....and logging into the game for more than a quick skillchange once every few weeks surley isn't "bittervet"
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6412
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:14:00 -
[45] - Quote
I too am exhausted from these Wars of Succession
Besides, my chemical attack backfired.
Im stuck with "Wouldn't It Be Luverly" "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
43194
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:22:00 -
[46] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:I too am exhausted from these Wars of Succession Besides, my chemical attack backfired. Im stuck with "Wouldn't It Be Luverly" I have to admit I cheated here.
I saw the title of the clip, yet it was regionally blocked where I live.
As Proxtube fired up automatically and tried to redirect me I just screamed "NOOOOOO" and bailed out.
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6414
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:24:00 -
[47] - Quote
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
I saw the title of the clip, yet it was regionally blocked where I live.
As Proxtube fired up automatically and tried to redirect me I just screamed "NOOOOOO" and bailed out.
Wasn't even a clip, it was the FULL MOVIE
So you did the right thing, and I was defeated for my strategy "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23297
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:26:00 -
[48] - Quote
Yes, chemicals and space games are not a good combination.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
761
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:39:00 -
[49] - Quote
I'm a vet, not very bitter though, i'm currently in one of my low periods, where i'm not very motivated to do a lot, but atm that has more to do with irl crap making me just stressed then eve.
I'm pretty much an eve fan boi, been here for 10 years, will be here till the servers shut off, or they pry the keyboard from my cold dead hands, whichever comes first. I feel madly in love with this game 10 years ago, she is an ***** of mistress, but sexy as ****.
I agree with other posters, a lot of the complaints come from people who can't wrap there heads around change. You will see this with every large change, and esp after every patch. People will threaten to leave, some will, but most of the the time they either don't or they come back a few months later and pretend like it never happened.
That's eve, it evolves and changes. I honestly, this time, really don't get the hoopla, with a little work you can make a killing with the changes. But meh.
I understand the point of people who want more stuff to play with, hell i'd love for some new toys that get me excited. But, I wan the toys to be complete and working. No half assed, not abandoned, not a stop on the shiney express.
Its why things like dust failed. It was a half assed attempt at linking eve to it. I think that will make legion and valk fail. half assed is bad. Either do things fully, or don't.
Personally, I like what ccp is doing, fixing broken, improving code, and laying he ground work for new stuff. I'm in no hurry, and have some faith left that once the dust is settled, i'll be glad I hung around. Ad if ccp screws it up, I still have tons I can do in eve.
The cure for bitter vet, is to relax and stop being so serious. this is still a game at the end of the day. In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |

Serene Repose
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:00:00 -
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JOSAL EXAN wrote:After watching GD for some time now, I think I have found a cure for the bitter vet disease. For me, it's clear it's not about what CCP brings or doesn't bring. It's not about promises not kept. Its about fear. A deadly fear.
A great rule for EVE is "don't fly what you cannot loose"
as a cure to BitVet is would suggest:
If you are so afraid of loosing your thing (could by ISK, Sov, Positions, Reputation), that you see any change CCP makes as something you have to rant about, its time to give it all away and start fresh and new. That way, you have lost soo much, that it will feel like a relieve to you and you might enjoy the game again.
As the inventor of the BitVet cure, I would suggest that you leave all your ISK en stuff to me. I will make sure that it all will be disposed of in a good way. I see the elevator doesn't go to the top. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
792
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:18:00 -
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bittervets does not care if they lose a ship, but as i am so called bittervet i can say my personal problems with EVE.
CCP has not bring anything new for old players for a long time, wormhole expansion was last one which really bring something new , after that nothing new and wormholes came 5 years ago or something like that.
Now CCP focuses to improve new player experience so how i look that is they do not even want to keep old vets in game they want new players to join circus and maybe be there as long as i have been.
I do not care how CCP changes ships or game mechanics , i can fly almost everything and i can adapt my tactics.
Thing is that after playing same scenarios over and over again for years start to be boring no matter how much ships explode or not, bringing new ships does not really bring nothing new. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3180
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:23:00 -
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wtf did i just watch "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23302
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Posted - 2014.07.24 17:08:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Kerbal Space Program using slightly more Jeb than usualGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem
62
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Posted - 2014.07.24 18:20:00 -
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Stan Marsh became a bitter vet:
[img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTa9psBZGPya11rLSeWdaRkdLQgEwFKOwQZ__CpMfbcjn7MB_k6[/img]
Fortunately for him he was introduced to alcohol relatively quickly. Many bitter vets go through years of sobriety. |

Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem
62
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Posted - 2014.07.24 18:26:00 -
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flakeys wrote:JOSAL EXAN wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:I think you've missed the mark, since with Crius, it's not bittervets that are complaining. I see remarks complaining that CCP doesn't react to a thread, but they do. Wich is a complaint from a guy only 2 years old , 2 years ain't VET by far.Try 8+ years now that's close to the VET mark . 
Try being part of the alpha testing the very first day and time it was played then immediately defrauding a charity in order to fund living unemployed surrounded by everything eve and only eve ever since. |

Na Und
Galactronics
219
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Posted - 2014.07.24 18:46:00 -
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It's beginning to appear that the only antidote to Bittervet Syndrome is skill-point reimbursement. /sarc |

Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
581
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Posted - 2014.07.24 18:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:
So please forward all that ISK.
Figures you will Ninja me. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |

flakeys
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2349
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Posted - 2014.07.24 18:54:00 -
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I'm 10 years in the game and can't even remember complaining once about the actuall game.
I do hve had a lot of complaints about it's userbase , so the question is how should one be called then? A bettervet ?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Erin Crawford
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Posted - 2014.07.24 19:04:00 -
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I think most "bitter vets" are so rich that the last thing they worry about is the rule you posted:
JOSAL EXAN wrote:A great rule for EVE is "don't fly what you cannot loose"
which is usually stamped into the minds of noobs in noob chat channels... |

PinkMonkey Dragon
Bittervets United
6
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Posted - 2014.07.24 19:08:00 -
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My corp ... is a disease?
Great. |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1037
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Posted - 2014.07.24 19:20:00 -
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Erin Crawford wrote:I think most "bitter vets" are so rich that the last thing they worry about is the rule you posted: JOSAL EXAN wrote:A great rule for EVE is "don't fly what you cannot loose"
which is usually stamped into the minds of noobs in noob chat channels... I think you're stereotyping here. I'm not saying I'm a bitter vet but after almost 5 years of playing Eve I'm far from rich. Of course I'm a casual player that doesn't take the game too seriously. |

flakeys
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2349
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Posted - 2014.07.24 19:29:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Erin Crawford wrote:I think most "bitter vets" are so rich that the last thing they worry about is the rule you posted: JOSAL EXAN wrote:A great rule for EVE is "don't fly what you cannot loose"
which is usually stamped into the minds of noobs in noob chat channels... I think you're stereotyping here. I'm not saying I'm a bitter vet but after almost 5 years of playing Eve I'm far from rich. Of course I'm a casual player that doesn't take the game too seriously.
I agree there , i have a lot of eve friends who are playing for 8+ years and most of them are not rich at alll.I think on average they have around 10 to 20 B wich is far from being rich.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Miyammato Musashi
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
40
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Posted - 2014.07.25 00:21:00 -
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Planet killer. (I'm sorry. it's worse than rickrolled.) |

Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
612
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Posted - 2014.07.25 08:07:00 -
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JOSAL EXAN wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:I think you've missed the mark, since with Crius, it's not bittervets that are complaining. I see remarks complaining that CCP doesn't react to a thread, but they do. Complaining its another bad patch. I see complains that the wrong things are being fixed or nothing is being fixed. That sounds bittervet to me.
Complaining does not a bitter vet make.
You imply that newbies never complain about anything, since bitter vets do all the complaining.
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all... |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3281

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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:49:00 -
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Quote:5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. Thread closed. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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