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DrussII
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Posted - 2006.07.05 23:44:00 -
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Any suggestions on Ranis set up pls
Current set up is this
3 ION t2 light, 4th slot empty (using null ammo)
mwd, web, scram
mapc, t2 repper small, dmg mod
help appreciated
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steveid
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Posted - 2006.07.05 23:49:00 -
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He'd just range while he rapes the hell outa you. You could try that setup with a duel web, and hope you can kill him before he warps away (which with ions isn't a bad bet), but if your looking to 1 on 1 a crow your best bet is gonna have to be rails, and even then i probably wouldn't bother. If he's good, your dead.
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2006.07.06 00:05:00 -
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Neutrons, Gank Setup, MWD+web+scram, and the two most important things; Patience & Cunning. 
Either that or if you sux take 3x 125mm T2, MWD, Web, Scram, 200mm RT Plate, Mag Stab II/Passive Kin Hardner, 200mm RT Plate.
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Arkanor
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Posted - 2006.07.06 00:15:00 -
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 Originally by: DrussII
Any suggestions on Ranis set up pls
Current set up is this
3 ION t2 light, 4th slot empty (using null ammo)
mwd, web, scram
mapc, t2 repper small, dmg mod
help appreciated
Unless that scram is 20km you're screwed. A standard-missile Crow with even my crappy skills can do 140dm/missile at 25km range (farther if you're chasing, shorter if you're running.) Granted that is outside of 20km but it is rather hard to keep in that 5km envelope vs a 17.5km variance.
I would go so far as to recommend changing out the damage mod for a kinetic hardener, as the Crow's bonuses only affect kinetic missiles (+50%)
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Mystic Elandria
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Posted - 2006.07.06 00:22:00 -
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why not pure dmg, 3 t2 neuts or ions with void
mwd, 2 webs, 3 dmg mods
3 t2 warriors
just hope that you kill him before he warps off
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Vathar
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Posted - 2006.07.06 00:30:00 -
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crow is faster (gets more from mwd due to lower mass) and can stay away from your web!
I'd say a speed mod in the lows might help catching him
Oh, and if you've got a repair facility nearby, DCU works well on a ranis
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DrussII
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Posted - 2006.07.06 08:21:00 -
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thanks for your input 
i have changed my set up as follows
3X t2 125's with spike ammo gives optimal of 25km with 5.355 dmg mod
1 mwd, 1 20k scram 1 10k web
MAPC, t2 small rep , 1 dmg mod (best i can find) 54% hull all resist that one
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Kalaan Oratay
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Posted - 2006.07.06 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: DrussII
thanks for your input
i have changed my set up as follows
3X t2 125's with spike ammo gives optimal of 25km with 5.355 dmg mod
1 mwd, 1 20k scram 1 10k web
MAPC, t2 small rep , 1 dmg mod (best i can find) 54% hull all resist that one
Spike? 
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Ignore what others say: Fit what you want, with what you have, whenever you want.
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zoturi
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Posted - 2006.07.06 08:29:00 -
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id use 20km and small cap battery II
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Sadist
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Posted - 2006.07.06 08:41:00 -
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Wow, you're all completely clueless, arent you. 
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Svett
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Posted - 2006.07.06 08:42:00 -
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Edited by: Svett on 06/07/2006 08:42:17
the crow is faster than a taranis, and can control the range much better. using blasters is not recommended nor is using t2 ammo. Against another inty using standard ammo is better in most situations due to sig radius.
125 t2 rails would be my bet, with some sort of energized or std plating vs kinetic damage, and purhaps a damage control instead of a plate.. taranis has a ton of structure to tank with and would have better speed without the plate.
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Voculus
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Posted - 2006.07.06 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sadist
Wow, you're all completely clueless, arent you.
Wow, this forum really needs more "experts" like you. We're all impressed with the amount of useful knowledge you were able to squeeze into that post.
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Princess Angel
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Posted - 2006.07.06 10:22:00 -
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simple if a blastering taranis gets in range of crow, the crow dies instantly.
If the Taranis is fitted with rails, it wins at any range.
Crows Power comes from its stupidly high locking range. Crows on the whole are great ships, but best when used at range. |
Apocalyptical
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Posted - 2006.07.06 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Svett
Edited by: Svett on 06/07/2006 08:42:17
the crow is faster than a taranis, and can control the range much better. using blasters is not recommended nor is using t2 ammo. Against another inty using standard ammo is better in most situations due to sig radius.
125 t2 rails would be my bet, with some sort of energized or std plating vs kinetic damage, and purhaps a damage control instead of a plate.. taranis has a ton of structure to tank with and would have better speed without the plate.
null is execlent on a blasteranis but if you use rails apike and jav are farily useless execept for a few sitautions.
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2006.07.06 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Angel
simple if a blastering taranis gets in range of crow, the crow dies instantly.
If the Taranis is fitted with rails, it wins at any range.
Crows Power comes from its stupidly high locking range. Crows on the whole are great ships, but best when used at range.
Rocketcrow pwns Taranis even harder than standardcrow pal, and a railanis simply does not do enough damage.
Blasteranis? Web him back, use your better speed and stay away from him.
Railanis? Either move away out to 20km forcing him to switch ammo if your a standardcrow or run right at him if your a rocketcrow until your under his guns.
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DrussII
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Posted - 2006.07.06 11:10:00 -
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all good stuff
gonna switch to standard ammo ..........
got 2 t2 hobgoblins in bay currently as well lets not forget those........
thank you all for your valuable input please keep it coming
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Sheeana
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Posted - 2006.07.06 11:33:00 -
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Fit 2 Neut light drones to *****his cap, hopefully it will shut down his MWD and you win.
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Omega Bloodstone
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Posted - 2006.07.06 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sadist
Wow, you're all completely clueless, arent you.
Clueless??? These guys are helping this dude out. If you dont have valuable input stay out of post. What is your point here. Whats your setup:
ignorant in the high slots
inmature in the mid slots
delusional in the lows...
Man, let people help others. You are weak at life...uninstall.
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Fogy
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Posted - 2006.07.06 11:46:00 -
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Gank ranis works nice against rocket crows.. against std missil crows a rail ranis is better.. or a duall web gank settup.
I¦w taken out bouth std missile crows, and rocket crows with dual 200mm plates with ion and with neutron taranises..
in EVE your best personal skill when it commes to PVP is patienc.. waiting for the right moment to strike is the clue when flying around solo in a ceptor.. probably in most other shipps aswell.
STD missile crows flown by a competent pilote will probably kill any blaster ranis.. with theyr 20km scram and superiour speed you¦r eighter dead, or lucky and manage to runn away.
Rail Ranises is another chapter though, but the tracking of rails can putt you into troubble unless you know what your doing.. theres no orbiting anymore when you¦r using a rail settup.
Good Luck, Fly safe!!
Fogy
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2006.07.06 11:58:00 -
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STD missile crows flown by a competent pilote will probably kill any blaster ranis.. with theyr 20km scram and superiour speed you¦r eighter dead, or lucky and manage to runn away.
If you don't go into web range it's impossible to hold a competent inty pilot by simply scrambling him at 20km, not even if you are significantly faster than him.
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DrussII
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Posted - 2006.07.06 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Omega Bloodstone
Originally by: Sadist
Wow, you're all completely clueless, arent you.
Clueless??? These guys are helping this dude out. If you dont have valuable input stay out of post. What is your point here. Whats your setup:
ignorant in the high slots
inmature in the mid slots
delusional in the lows...
Man, let people help others. You are weak at life...uninstall.
Thank you Omega, the forum's are for ideas and discussion,i would like to thank all those who posted valuable idea's keep it going if you can
well i will let you guys know how i get on going to stick to rail option and tbh the Character i'm taking on is a smack talker lol wanna teach him a lesson lol
wish i could get one of theose 40km web's to fit on a b/s just to shut him up lol
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Voltron
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Posted - 2006.07.06 13:15:00 -
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3 x T2 150 mm Hybrids, use lead or uridium ammo
1 x offlined small remote rep (never know when a gang m8 may need a hand during downtime)
1 x t2 1mn mwd
1 x 20km scram
1 x painter, sensor booster, web, whatever
1 x T2 small rep
1 x MAPC
1 x local hull nano
2 x t2 drones of choice.
with good skills (motion prediciton 5, ceptors 5) the 150's track rather nicely and should have a dmg mod over 7 or 8.
Volt
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Apollo Balthar
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Posted - 2006.07.07 07:08:00 -
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I don't know if this would work as I don't fly the taranis, but if you are certain you're gonna fight a crow:
3x 125mm rails
1xmwd2 or better, 1x sensor damp best named, 20km disruptor.
2x nanofiber best named 1x damage control (or alternatively a cap relay to run the disruptor longer)
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Now shut up and be happy!
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Tiwaz
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Posted - 2006.07.07 08:14:00 -
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Admitted i suck rather hard in frig fighting.
BUT blaster mostly suck do to range, so i use 125mm rails. Use Named ones instead of the t2. With a plate in the low.
Good damage and hope ur amor will last the fight.
Taranis is a good inty im sure, but crow and Claw might be better.
tiw
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Sadist
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Posted - 2006.07.07 14:19:00 -
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Edited by: Sadist on 07/07/2006 14:20:58
Originally by: Voculus
Wow, this forum really needs more "experts" like you. We're all impressed with the amount of useful knowledge you were able to squeeze into that post.
Just because I dont share the knowledge of a winning setup outright doesnt mean i dont understand more than others do in ship setups. Thx. And when i want to comment on crappy setups, I will.
For the moment let's just say I consider rails to be superior on a taranis in at least 85% of the combat situations, since NOS and webs are very common in decent fights, and you WILL get webbed/NOSed is the assumption.
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2006.07.07 14:40:00 -
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try 2x jamming drones on ranis and you pritty much unstoppable vs other intys, oh and gisti mwd and snake is good to have
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Jerick Ludhowe
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Posted - 2006.07.07 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sadist
Just because I dont share the knowledge of a winning setup outright doesnt mean i dont understand more than others do in ship setups. Thx. And when i want to comment on crappy setups, I will.
The point is that you brought no usefull information to the thread, you simply just trolled it saying that people are clueless. Expect to be flamed when you do something dumb like that.
Taranis is a dps oriented interceptor, hell it even outclasses most AFs when it comes to raw damage potential. If you want a long range tackling interceptor use the Ares/Crow, as it is much better at that job than the Taranis. If you want a close range agile dps ship that can avoid most incoming fire then you fly the Taranis. I'm not trying to pigeon hole anyone into useing one cookie cutter setup or the other for the ship however each ship does have its advantages and trying to make the ship do something that it was realisticly not designed to do may result in the destruction of the ship.
Rail setups on a Taranis are excelent for anti Cruiser/BC tackling as you bring reasonable dps to the table and can easily out range medium nos while sitting at your optimal. You can still be a viable long range BS tackler however as I stated earlier the Ares/Crow is better suited for that role.
When it comes to a 1v1 involving the Crow and Taranis my bet is going to be on the Crow for the same reasons as listed earlier in this thread. As people have stated the Taranis only really has a chance if he has much better nav skills allowing him to have the speed advantage or lands right ontop of the crow allowing him to kill it in just a few seconds.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sadist
Edited by: Sadist on 07/07/2006 14:30:01
Originally by: Voculus
Wow, this forum really needs more "experts" like you. We're all impressed with the amount of useful knowledge you were able to squeeze into that post.
Just because I dont share the knowledge of a winning setup outright doesnt mean i dont understand more than others do in ship setups. Thx. And when i want to comment on crappy setups, I will.
For the moment let's just say I consider rails to be superior on a taranis in at least 85% of the combat situations, since NOS and webs are very common in decent fights, and you WILL get webbed/NOSed is the assumption.
As for the ranis vs. crow thing, all I can say is that once the web is on the crow, you've pretty much won the fight. If it's a rocket spamming crow, however, you'll have to make sure your damage output is superior with rails (have good skills in gunnery, implants help, t2 light drones with good skills help too).
If you wait to web it and THEN kill it then you are better of ith blasters.
It is tight cause he will have at least 10 more seconds of his DPS applying but if you have neutrons and a damg ctrl you jave a reasonable chance.
If you cant get in web range rails are a better bet but its iffy if you ll get it cause with equal skills the Crow is faster.
If you use dcu intead of armor tank and the Crow has a plate on you stand a better chance of being faster (with equal skills).
In Crow v Taranis there are mny different permutations and outcomes but all things considered (with pilots knowing what they are doing) the Crow is probably a better bet.
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