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Xelios
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Posted - 2006.07.06 00:50:00 -
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Yes that's right, I like them. You see, I was going through my assets today and realized I have a lot of useless crap laying around. Rather than trash it all, I figured why not donate it to those poor escrow bots who are just trying to make a decent living?
Congrats whoever claimed my 2 dozen or so 0 isk escrows of useless junk all over the galaxy, and thanks for the free waste removal service!
Well.... not completely free considering the 850isk escrow charge, but that money was well worth the amusing convos 
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SULAN BARHIR
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Posted - 2006.07.06 00:56:00 -
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Please share the amusing convos |
Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.07.06 01:28:00 -
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bots conv nowadays? 
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.07.06 01:30:00 -
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 Originally by: Pepperami
bots conv nowadays?
The bot is a piece of code. A person could very well be at the computer watching the loot come in.
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.07.06 01:35:00 -
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I think it's more plausible that it's just regular people escrow sniping.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.07.06 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Pepperami
I think it's more plausible that it's just regular people escrow sniping.
Have you seen the video demonstrating the escrow bot?
Python code injection is extremely easy, and a quick google will lead you to sites where you can download such tools. Its not "plausible that its just regular people," it is most certainly, 100%, escrow bots using python code injection.
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.07.06 01:48:00 -
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100% definately bots? lol, if you say so.
I saw one vid of some guy putting ammo on escrow, proved nothing, anyone can claim at that speed. I'm sure there may be some people attempting to use such bots, but I'm also sure there's many many more people using alts to camp escrow while doing other stuff.. Infact I'm more than sure, I know it's the case.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.07.06 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Pepperami
100% definately bots? lol, if you say so.
I saw one vid of some guy putting ammo on escrow, proved nothing, anyone can claim at that speed. I'm sure there may be some people attempting to use such bots, but I'm also sure there's many many more people using alts to camp escrow while doing other stuff.. Infact I'm more than sure, I know it's the case.
Escrow takes quite a bit of time to load, if you've ever used it. Its impossible to claim at that speed without a bot.
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MellaRinn
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Posted - 2006.07.06 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Pepperami
100% definately bots? lol, if you say so.
I saw one vid of some guy putting ammo on escrow, proved nothing, anyone can claim at that speed. I'm sure there may be some people attempting to use such bots, but I'm also sure there's many many more people using alts to camp escrow while doing other stuff.. Infact I'm more than sure, I know it's the case.
try it yourself - any number of escrows at any time of day sniped within the same wallet blink is not a person sniping, mmkay...
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.07.06 01:57:00 -
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move all your isk out of your wallet; set to "only affordable" hey presto, insta-load. A bot would not recieve the data any quicker, anyway.
People doing it? Well 15,000 online, if only 3 people are doing it at any one time then the escrows will go pretty instantly.. And I'd guess there's more than 3 people at anyone time considering how people bring this up reguarly on the forums lately.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.07.06 02:09:00 -
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peeps to be honest spend their days looking for escrow sniping (reselling) find something thats below normal market value buy it and sell it to some other smuck that will pay more for it.
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2006.07.06 03:13:00 -
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y would they claim then then?
i mean why would a person claim 50 bookmarks named **** u macros that was made just to **** them off? ;p
theres no point in claiming a lot of the stuff ppl put on now because of those buts
but it is impossible either way pep :|
wallet or not they claimed the exact second after and u cant reload escrow that fast ;p
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Andargor theWise
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Posted - 2006.07.06 04:11:00 -
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People still think escrow bots don't exist !?!1!?!one 
Listen, I shoved 1 unit of trit into escrow at 0-100 ISK one time, 5 times, even 10 times in a row as fast as I could. Every time the wallet blinks: for the 850 ISK fee... and the escrow being claimed in the same second. Two entries, same second. 
If it weren't for the fee, I would make a lot of money selling trit for 100 ISK...
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Mitten
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Posted - 2006.07.06 05:13:00 -
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Edited by: Mitten on 06/07/2006 05:13:23
Originally by: Andargor theWise
People still think escrow bots don't exist !?!1!?!one
Listen, I shoved 1 unit of trit into escrow at 0-100 ISK one time, 5 times, even 10 times in a row as fast as I could. Every time the wallet blinks: for the 850 ISK fee... and the escrow being claimed in the same second. Two entries, same second.
If it weren't for the fee, I would make a lot of money selling trit for 100 ISK...
CCP have said they do.
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Naqisaki
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Posted - 2006.07.06 05:13:00 -
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Google it. The code isn't hard to find.
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voogru
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Posted - 2006.07.06 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Naqisaki
Google it. The code isn't hard to find.
The ban isn't hard to get.
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Cherybol
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Posted - 2006.07.06 05:26:00 -
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Brilliant idea mate. When i get home, i gonna go escrow all my worthless crap. And who knows. I may buy a pile of trit, and start escrowing each peice, just to **** the cheaters off.
And yes, they are cheaters. As they are using code to get an adventage over others in the game. Hence, its bannable.
Woots!
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Naqisaki
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Posted - 2006.07.06 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: voogru
Originally by: Naqisaki
Google it. The code isn't hard to find.
The ban isn't hard to get.
Oh yes, ban me because I can type eve bot into google?
Sorry.
It's been comon knowledge for over 8 months, you cannot ban me for typing something as generic as that into a search engine.
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Mitten
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Posted - 2006.07.06 05:55:00 -
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Edited by: Mitten on 06/07/2006 05:55:44
Originally by: Naqisaki
Originally by: voogru
Originally by: Naqisaki
Google it. The code isn't hard to find.
The ban isn't hard to get.
Oh yes, ban me because I can type eve bot into google?
Sorry.
It's been comon knowledge for over 8 months, you cannot ban me for typing something as generic as that into a search engine.
Guess what, I dont think thats what he meant by that. Just a heads up 
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Palx
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Posted - 2006.07.06 06:26:00 -
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Originally by: Naqisaki
Google it. The code isn't hard to find.
I went 7 pages back in google, and foud nothing.
I still don't think there are bots, i've claimed a few 0,0 isk recently (haven't beeng trying much tho tbh) - if there were bots I doubt I could "beat" them.
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Naqisaki
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Posted - 2006.07.06 06:56:00 -
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eve-online escrow bot... in google will give a link within the first two pages. If this isn't allowed, please delete my post, just proving a point.
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Semkhet
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Posted - 2006.07.06 07:02:00 -
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Escrow-bots only exists because CCP doesen't implement an automated method to catch them.
A bot needs a valid pair of username/password in order to connect to the server and therefore uniquely identifies the character. Since the exact time of setting up an escrow, claiming it and its price are infos normally handled by their data model, it would be trivial to add to the claiming procedure a check which detects the delay between entering an escrow and its claim. If the delay is suspiciously short, you flag the user. If the same user gets flagged X times a day, then you have a candidate for ban.
There's no way that you may repeatedly catch escrows in less than 500 milliseconds after their creation by using manually the escrow interface.
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Novarei
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Posted - 2006.07.06 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: Naqisaki
just proving a point.
And that would be?
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.07.06 07:13:00 -
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Edited by: MysticNZ on 06/07/2006 07:13:20
That they exist?
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.07.06 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Escrow takes quite a bit of time to load, if you've ever used it. Its impossible to claim at that speed without a bot.
I'm not doubting that there are escrow bots DS (I commented on it long before the recent influx of posts about it).
However, I think you are underestimating quite how fast you can actually camp escrow manually.
It can load instantly, and only show the 0isk stuff.
Anything appearing on the escrow list (which can be refreshed very quickly) is good to claim.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.07.06 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Pepperami
People doing it? Well 15,000 online, if only 3 people are doing it at any one time then the escrows will go pretty instantly..
I am sure you would keep claiming when you got 15 times 1 unit of garbage from a escrow that says "one unit of garbage".
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.07.06 08:45:00 -
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Originally by: gfldex
Originally by: Pepperami
People doing it? Well 15,000 online, if only 3 people are doing it at any one time then the escrows will go pretty instantly..
I am sure you would keep claiming when you got 15 times 1 unit of garbage from a escrow that says "one unit of garbage".
You don't have time to read the description, and certainly won't bother checking it actually relects what is being escrowed.
Claim everything - search your assets later.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.07.06 08:45:00 -
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befor
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We all know that most of the eve players don't know what they do. But nobody is repeatedly claiming a escrow that says "one unit of garbage".
The problem with this test is that we cant tell who is claiming it. That's why i am going to petition that case because a GM should be able to see it.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.07.06 08:46:00 -
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And no, you can't touch my money. :)
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Traxio Nacho
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Posted - 2006.07.06 09:12:00 -
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Actually the other day I was escrowing something to my alt and saw a 0.0 isk escrow even had time to check what it was and then claim it
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Semkhet
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Posted - 2006.07.06 09:37:00 -
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The problem here is not only that you have to be lucky enough to display the escrow when for whatever circumstance EVE is free of escrow-bots at that exact moment.
Do you believe that the people running these bots are after junk ? I have used too this "garbage black-hole" which are 0 isk escrows to get rid of unwanted stuff. But later on I thought that these peeps would probably do the same in order not to get their assets display clogged by junk. So I may safely assume that there's a lot of junk being repeatedly put on escrow by people who wants to get rid of the garbage, bots claiming this junk, and people running the bots putting them again in the escrow.
What's funny is that when these script kiddies get rid of unwanted stuff, it make sense that they have to prior stop their bot.
What a waste of bandwith and stupid load on the SQL layer...
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Shinya Aiba
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Posted - 2006.07.06 09:38:00 -
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Clickey
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.07.06 11:37:00 -
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Seriously, that video really shows nothing, I can snipe that quick, and I'm crap at escrow sniping ;)
Why would people accept junk? Easy, it's a race, you don't check it, you just claim. Sure you don't want to get junk but considering now and again you might a handful of hacs or a battleship bpo, it's definately worthwhile.
If you read my posts I said I don't believe they don't exist (I posted in the thread Kieron said that they do), but I do believe that it doesn't make a difference if they do or they don't, your free escrows will go instantly either way, and players still seem more than able of beating the bot. Someone I know found it funny the other week because a guy kept putting escrows up named "if you claim this you'll be banned".
I think the reason we get so many claims of bots existing is people just want to offload the blame of putting up free escrows onto an exploit, rather than blame their own stupidity.
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