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Shirley Serious
Gutter Press
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:55:00 -
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Some years ago, a Gallente cyberneticist claimed that there is an ancient supercomputer in the Amarr system, that uses nanites to imitate divine intervention and manipulate prophets.
Yesterday, a Gallente capsuleer claimed to Gutter Press that they found God, in the outer limits of the Amarr solar system, some 150 AU from the Hedion stargate, after attempting to scan down an unusual signal.
The blasphemous capsuleer alleged that God took the form of "A four-dimensional pyramid with a single all-seeing eye", and that this entity spoke to them, urging them to spread a message to all the worlds of the cluster.
The alleged pyramid then hurled the capsuleers ship into Kor-Azor Prime solar system, without the use of stargates.
A Theology council agent required medical attention for near-asphyxiation, having almost laughed to death, when asked to comment on this sequence of events.
Amarr capsuleers were immensely sceptical of these reports.
"A what pyramid?", said one Khanid cyberknight pilot. "How can it be an all-seeing eye if it's on the front? An eye can't see what's behind it", said a liberal Holder. "Dark Times" said a mysterious hooded figure. "Sounds like someone's been on the sauce. We knew what to do with that sort of person in the Navy, I tell you." said a Ni-Kunni naval veteran.
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Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
141
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:32:00 -
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Right. |

Anabella Rella
Gradient
1732
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Posted - 2014.07.25 16:02:00 -
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As we live in a 3 dimensional universe and can't even imagine what a possible fourth dimension would entail, just how did this pilot even perceive a "four dimensional pyramid"? I call shenanigans. When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. |

Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
846
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Posted - 2014.07.25 16:25:00 -
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As God, I verify the events described in this article are indeed factual. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Karynn Denton
Clan Katanga Caravan
231
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Posted - 2014.07.25 16:59:00 -
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This is nonsense; the gods and ancestor spirits dwell in the Ginnungagap, not some weird pyramid.
And why would a god want to hang out in the Amarr system? Have you seen the drivel in the Local comms channel? Karynn Denton Caravan Master
Drug-dealing, frigate-fighting, Rifter-rolling Thukkervixen |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1187
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:04:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:As we live in a 3 dimensional universe and can't even imagine what a possible fourth dimension would entail, just how did this pilot even perceive a "four dimensional pyramid"? I call shenanigans. Somehow, I doubt you can imagine even 3 dimensions. |

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
577
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:43:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:As we live in a 3 dimensional universe and can't even imagine what a possible fourth dimension would entail, just how did this pilot even perceive a "four dimensional pyramid"? I call shenanigans.
Though it says they were Gallente, I think it's likely that they were a Serpentis associate, all hepped up on goofballs. |

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
224
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:54:00 -
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As I have said before, I do not necessarily hold to strict mind-body separation and thus am open to physical manifestation of religious phenomena. That said, I have my doubts about this sighting. |

Saikala
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:21:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:As we live in a 3 dimensional universe and can't even imagine what a possible fourth dimension would entail, just how did this pilot even perceive a "four dimensional pyramid"? I call shenanigans. Somehow, I doubt you can imagine even 3 dimensions.
The fact that the Sebiestor designed a formidable fleet whilst only perceiving two dimensions would be an accomplishment worth celebrating, one would think.
Regarding the Gallente in question, I suspect it's much more likely they met with a powerful and long-hidden 'stash'. |

Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company
121
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Posted - 2014.07.25 21:31:00 -
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Honestly, is there no depths of lunacy Gallente eccentricities will not steep to?
I agree with pilot Saikala's assessment of the origin of this idiocy. Hidden 'stash' indeed. Fide et honore.
((IC note: Vulxanis only responds to "Lord Draconis".)) |

Pieter Tuulinen
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
3881
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Posted - 2014.07.25 21:43:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:As we live in a 3 dimensional universe and can't even imagine what a possible fourth dimension would entail, just how did this pilot even perceive a "four dimensional pyramid"? I call shenanigans.
'Bella, the fourth dimension is time. If the damn thing didn't exist, exists for a non-zero and finite amount of time, and then ceases to exist then it exists in the fourth dimension. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |

Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
732
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Posted - 2014.07.25 21:45:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:As we live in a 3 dimensional universe and can't even imagine what a possible fourth dimension would entail, just how did this pilot even perceive a "four dimensional pyramid"? I call shenanigans. 'Bella, the fourth dimension is time. If the damn thing didn't exist, exists for a non-zero and finite amount of time, and then ceases to exist then it exists in the fourth dimension.
In short, we're all four-dimensional! Every physical object is ! Caldari rescued from Black Eagle Prison Camps! -á-áBombing in Rens, Gradient Capsuleers wounded! |

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
689
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Posted - 2014.07.25 21:55:00 -
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Technically, that's not entirely true, Tuulinen. The fourth dimension is quite difficult to represent and envisage in any accurate form, but it's part of quite a bit of mathematics theory and work. The most common depiction of a four dimensional object would be the rotating tesseract, that looks pretty much like it's turning itself inside out continuously.
Vectors and coordinate geometry can be used to mathematically describe a four-dimensional space and objects in it, but we quite obviously lack the senses and mental capacity to properly picture it, as we're quite well entrenched in our three-dimensional universe.
Some do use time as the fourth dimension, when combining it with space, calling it spacetime or spacetime continuum but this does not mesh too well with the concept of fifth, sixth etc dimensions.
Anyway, to put it simply, yes you can call time the fourth dimension, but it's not quite right. Bellarella also should try some good hallucinogens and find some very lovely depictions of four dimensional objects on Galnet. Tesseracts get particularly freaky when you're in the right mindset. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
846
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Posted - 2014.07.25 22:03:00 -
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Grrr, math.. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
689
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Posted - 2014.07.25 22:06:00 -
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The math in question is used extensively in our warp and jump technology. Without it, we'd be slow boating around in our own solar systems, barely getting to the point of sending sub-light vessels past the heliospheres. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Chronoxi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
24
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Posted - 2014.07.25 22:08:00 -
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What heresy is this?
God will not see a vile immoral gallentean. Also, as pointed by others, how does one see the 4th dimension...
I'd say gutter press is full of cheap rumors and lies, and all of you should watch Amarr Certified News instead. 'Chronoxi' Joseph Vafhan |

Ava Starfire
Gradient
1587
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Posted - 2014.07.25 22:24:00 -
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Maths! "There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception."
-Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North" |

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
689
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Posted - 2014.07.25 22:26:00 -
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Ava Starfire wrote:Maths!
OGODNO WHERE?! Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Pieter Tuulinen
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
3882
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Posted - 2014.07.25 22:47:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:Technically, that's not entirely true, Tuulinen. The fourth dimension is quite difficult to represent and envisage in any accurate form, but it's part of quite a bit of mathematics theory and work. The most common depiction of a four dimensional object would be the rotating tesseract, that looks pretty much like it's turning itself inside out continuously.
Vectors and coordinate geometry can be used to mathematically describe a four-dimensional space and objects in it, but we quite obviously lack the senses and mental capacity to properly picture it, as we're quite well entrenched in our three-dimensional universe.
Some do use time as the fourth dimension, when combining it with space, calling it spacetime or spacetime continuum but this does not mesh too well with the concept of fifth, sixth etc dimensions.
Anyway, to put it simply, yes you can call time the fourth dimension, but it's not quite right. Bellarella also should try some good hallucinogens and find some very lovely depictions of four dimensional objects on Galnet. Tesseracts get particularly freaky when you're in the right mindset.
If you're trying to math me into submission... "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
689
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Posted - 2014.07.25 22:51:00 -
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It's working. Just admit it. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Pieter Tuulinen
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
3882
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Posted - 2014.07.25 22:57:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:It's working. Just admit it.
Great. Now you're being cute. I don't know what to do with myself. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |

Anabella Rella
Gradient
1732
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Posted - 2014.07.25 23:08:00 -
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Chronoxi wrote:
...I'd say gutter press is full of cheap rumors and lies, and all of you should watch Amarr Certified News instead.
So that we can see expensive rumors and lies? When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. |

Kithrus
Deus Fides Empire
327
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Posted - 2014.07.26 00:14:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Chronoxi wrote:
...I'd say gutter press is full of cheap rumors and lies, and all of you should watch Amarr Certified News instead.
So that we can see expensive rumors and lies?
No because we don't have pointless adverts for feminine hygiene products that every girl everyone already knows they need and where to get them without being reminded.
If nothing else give us that. |

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
579
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Posted - 2014.07.26 00:30:00 -
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Quote: The blasphemous capsuleer alleged that God took the form of "A four-dimensional pyramid with a single all-seeing eye", and that this entity spoke to them, urging them to spread a message to all the worlds of the cluster.
The alleged pyramid then hurled the capsuleers ship into Kor-Azor Prime solar system, without the use of stargates.
A Theology council agent required medical attention for near-asphyxiation, having almost laughed to death, when asked to comment on this sequence of events.
Actually, there are a number of unanswered questions here.
Firstly, I'm somewhat curious to know what the message was, that the pyramid wanted the capsuleer to spread ?
Secondly, just how common is it, for TC agents to find such blasphemy so amusing ?
Thirdly, was the eye on the pyramid on one of the faces? Or was it perched on the apex ? |

Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Inter Vivos Trust Service
69
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Posted - 2014.07.26 00:33:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:As we live in a 3 dimensional universe and can't even imagine what a possible fourth dimension would entail, just how did this pilot even perceive a "four dimensional pyramid"? I call shenanigans.
Not to pick too many nits but I believe you mean that we only readily perceive three spatial dimensions (as well as one temporal) but our Universe can be mathematically understood as having eleven dimensions. "I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."-á- Book of Reclaiming 22:13 |

Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
846
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Posted - 2014.07.26 04:41:00 -
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Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:As we live in a 3 dimensional universe and can't even imagine what a possible fourth dimension would entail, just how did this pilot even perceive a "four dimensional pyramid"? I call shenanigans. Not to pick too many nits but I believe you mean that we only readily perceive three spatial dimensions (as well as one temporal) but our Universe can be mathematically understood as having eleven dimensions. Stop right there. My sanity will snap if I have to actively attempt to comprehend more then 4 dimensions. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
846
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Posted - 2014.07.26 04:44:00 -
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Kithrus wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:Chronoxi wrote:
...I'd say gutter press is full of cheap rumors and lies, and all of you should watch Amarr Certified News instead.
So that we can see expensive rumors and lies? No because we don't have pointless adverts for feminine hygiene products that every girl everyone already knows they need and where to get them without being reminded. If nothing else give us that. But... But, how will we know which ones offer the best quality and ease of movement if they don't advertise it!? The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Ber Kan
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
75
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Posted - 2014.07.26 04:56:00 -
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Drugs kids. Don't over use it. As well as don't take century old drugs. That can only lead to bad things. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á This thread has been Plundered. |

Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
847
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Posted - 2014.07.26 06:42:00 -
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Ber Kan wrote:Drugs kids. Don't over use it. As well as don't take century old drugs. That can only lead to bad things. WHAT!? My purple spotted platapus told me they get better with age and exessive use! The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Ber Kan
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
75
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Posted - 2014.07.26 08:01:00 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Ber Kan wrote:Drugs kids. Don't over use it. As well as don't take century old drugs. That can only lead to bad things. WHAT!? My purple spotted platapus told me they get better with age and exessive use! 
Please, my dear. Buy some blue. It will make all the things better for you. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á This thread has been Plundered. |

Synthetic Cultist
Church of The Crimson Saviour
366
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Posted - 2014.07.26 23:52:00 -
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a Four Dimensional Pyramid may refer to an Object which is also called a Pentachoron, or Tetrahedral Hyperpyramid.
Attempting to Visualise such Objects may cause Headaches and/or Temporary Insanity among human People.
I am Sceptical that God would take such a Form, when interacting with human People, instead a more relatable Figure such as some form of Humanoid Shape.
This Assumes God would interact Personally, and not through Messengers such as Sefrim.
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Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
848
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Posted - 2014.07.27 09:14:00 -
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Ber Kan wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:Ber Kan wrote:Drugs kids. Don't over use it. As well as don't take century old drugs. That can only lead to bad things. WHAT!? My purple spotted platapus told me they get better with age and exessive use!  Please, my dear. Buy some blue. It will make all the things better for you. You're right! Hear that Mr. Platapus, we're mixing drugs tonight! The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Kale Silence
Sebietar Scavenging and Hacking
61
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Posted - 2014.07.28 03:24:00 -
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Synthetic Cultist wrote:a Four Dimensional Pyramid may refer to an Object which is also called a Pentachoron, or Tetrahedral Hyperpyramid.
Attempting to Visualise such Objects may cause Headaches and/or Temporary Insanity among human People.
I am Sceptical that God would take such a Form, when interacting with human People, instead a more relatable Figure such as some form of Humanoid Shape.
This Assumes God would interact Personally, and not through Messengers such as Sefrim.
*cough cough*
Bullsh** "Love me or hate me, but money don't judge me. I don't care about your opinion, unless you intend to pay me. Then I care." - Anonymous |

Synthetic Cultist
Church of The Crimson Saviour
366
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:10:00 -
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You have an Objection to my Comment, Kale Silence ? |

Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
2369
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Posted - 2014.07.29 03:30:00 -
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Chronoxi wrote:What heresy is this?
God will not see a vile immoral gallentean. Also, as pointed by others, how does one see the 4th dimension...
I'd say gutter press is full of cheap rumors and lies, and all of you should watch Amarr Certified News instead.
Gutter Press questioned several Amarrians. You're never going to see that on ACN. It's pretty sad that a tabloid is more balanced than a larger news network. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1194
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Posted - 2014.07.30 11:18:00 -
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Saikala wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:As we live in a 3 dimensional universe and can't even imagine what a possible fourth dimension would entail, just how did this pilot even perceive a "four dimensional pyramid"? I call shenanigans. Somehow, I doubt you can imagine even 3 dimensions. The fact that the Sebiestor designed a formidable fleet whilst only perceiving two dimensions would be an accomplishment worth celebrating, one would think. I think it was "Minmatar" designed fleet, rather than "Sebiestor". Besides, Rella is rather... unique. If Rella's clones would design a rowboat, it would sink after sailing about two meters. Probably with making a lot of offensive noises (in minmatar language) while drowning. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1194
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Posted - 2014.07.30 11:48:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:As we live in a 3 dimensional universe and can't even imagine what a possible fourth dimension would entail, just how did this pilot even perceive a "four dimensional pyramid"? I call shenanigans. 'Bella, the fourth dimension is time. If the damn thing didn't exist, exists for a non-zero and finite amount of time, and then ceases to exist then it exists in the fourth dimension. The time, of course, can be viewed as fourth dimension, and will help visualizing it. The problem with time, is that when we imagine it, we think first about evolution and causality, that makes our Universe to not fall apart into pieces. Imagining a pyramid in a 4D space using time would be rather absurd. First, because pyramid is a 3D object, not a 4D. And it can be rather a projection of another object into 4D space, so, thus, Rella's idea is rather idiotic from the start. Another question would be "hyperpyramid". And second, because projection of its base (whatever it is depending on type of pyramid) will appear from nowhere, and then collapses into a dot (well, again, moving along its altitude from base to apex is easiest way to imagine).
To make its imagination in other positions and without using time, just take into consideration, that our sight is two-dimensional. We see two-dimensional projections of the world and imagine its three-dimensional form by means of stereovision and focusing. To imagine 4D object, just imagine 3D objects as its projections. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1194
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Posted - 2014.07.30 11:50:00 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:As we live in a 3 dimensional universe and can't even imagine what a possible fourth dimension would entail, just how did this pilot even perceive a "four dimensional pyramid"? I call shenanigans. Not to pick too many nits but I believe you mean that we only readily perceive three spatial dimensions (as well as one temporal) but our Universe can be mathematically understood as having eleven dimensions. Stop right there. My sanity will snap if I have to actively attempt to comprehend more then 4 dimensions.  Aww... Pity you weren't born Achura! |

Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2014.07.30 14:05:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Saikala wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:As we live in a 3 dimensional universe and can't even imagine what a possible fourth dimension would entail, just how did this pilot even perceive a "four dimensional pyramid"? I call shenanigans. Somehow, I doubt you can imagine even 3 dimensions. The fact that the Sebiestor designed a formidable fleet whilst only perceiving two dimensions would be an accomplishment worth celebrating, one would think. I think it was "Minmatar" designed fleet, rather than "Sebiestor". Besides, Rella is rather... unique. If Rella's clones would design a rowboat, it would sink after sailing about two meters. Probably with making a lot of offensive noises (in minmatar language) while drowning.
'Sebiestor-designed fleet' is much more accurate. Boundless Creation, one of our major shipbuilding corporation, may have stakeholders from four tribes, but the team that produced anything is the Sebiestor team. Core Complexion, our other producer of ships, had the design work done by Sebiestor. Thukker Mix entered much later so we don't have all that many ships from their production lines in the Republic Fleet.
Hell, all the guns we keep putting into Brutor hands are predominantly Sebiestor-designed too. Have to admit though, it's the Brutors that keep coming up with new and creative ways to maim and maul someone with the tools we design and put into their hands. |

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
692
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Posted - 2014.07.30 14:13:00 -
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There's a reason I hire Sebiestor engineers and researchers over any others. It's also why I practically salivate over the idea of Boundless Creation, Core Complexion and State Megas working together on ship, weapon and consumer products. New Eden wouldn't be recognizable after a while. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1196
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Posted - 2014.07.30 15:02:00 -
[41] - Quote
Jinari Otsito wrote:There's a reason I hire Sebiestor engineers and researchers over any others. It's also why I practically salivate over the idea of Boundless Creation, Core Complexion and State Megas working together on ship, weapon and consumer products. New Eden wouldn't be recognizable after a while. And that's the reason why your "research" is suboptimal compared to those, who hire other engineers, for example, Achura. And no, Caldari research teams are best in the cluster and don't need less intelligent or educated workers. |

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
692
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Posted - 2014.07.30 15:08:00 -
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I tried imagining Diana reading (tongue in the corner of her mouth, brow wrinkled and finger on the tablet) the journals we publish in and couldn't stop laughing. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2014.07.30 15:14:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:I tried imagining Diana reading (tongue in the corner of her mouth, brow wrinkled and finger on the tablet) the journals we publish in and couldn't stop laughing.
She reads anything that isn't the Heth Manifesto? |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1196
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Posted - 2014.07.30 15:15:00 -
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Damn... should remember to turn off camera drone in "Intergalactic Summit" NeoCom channel... |

Alexander Draegar
Nova Wolves Apocalypse Now.
2
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Posted - 2014.07.31 01:29:00 -
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So it seems that someone finally recovered my missing stash of extra-potent weed. Good for them. |
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