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Spanker
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Posted - 2006.07.06 09:34:00 -
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Hello,
I bought an Ishtar yesterday for literally hundreds of millions of ISK. Then I started thinking... maybe my skills are too crap to use it? I can't use T2 drones you see, and my Heavy drone skill is at 4. Will I be able to use it effectively anyway or should I just stick with my Cerb or Zealot?
Thanks
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.07.06 09:36:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 06/07/2006 09:39:44 With everything, the higher the skill the better it is. Just fill the mid-slots with jammers and highs with nos and your poor drone skills probably won't matter :)
Btw, get T2 light and medium drones ASAP as they are the sex and only need Scout Drones 5 (5 days) along with the racial drone skills.
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Benglada
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Posted - 2006.07.06 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul Just fill the low-slots with jammers quote]
I just spotted a sarmaul misprint, Isk Plz. ---------------------------
Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote.. 
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Spanker
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Posted - 2006.07.06 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul get T2 light and medium drones ASAP as they are the sex
I like the sex bit. Although wouldn't 5 T2 small ones (or even mediums) still do less damage then 5 heavy T1 ones?
- Shpank |

Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.07.06 09:40:00 -
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ahem fixed 
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.07.06 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Spanker
Originally by: Sarmaul get T2 light and medium drones ASAP as they are the sex
I like the sex bit. Although wouldn't 5 T2 small ones (or even mediums) still do less damage then 5 heavy T1 ones?
Depends what you're fighting. Lights vs frigs, Mediums vs cruisers and Heavies vs battleships. Drone were changed recently to act more like turrets, meaning heavies won't do **** to frigs and can be evaded by fast moving cruisers.
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Spanker
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Posted - 2006.07.06 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Spanker
Originally by: Sarmaul get T2 light and medium drones ASAP as they are the sex
I like the sex bit. Although wouldn't 5 T2 small ones (or even mediums) still do less damage then 5 heavy T1 ones?
Depends what you're fighting. Lights vs frigs, Mediums vs cruisers and Heavies vs battleships. Drone were changed recently to act more like turrets, meaning heavies won't do **** to frigs and can be evaded by fast moving cruisers.
Ah, this I didn't know! So by that reasoning I definitely should get small T2's for the Lv3 missions I plan doin with it!
Thanks for the help, much appreciated!
- Shpank |

Aeaus
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Posted - 2006.07.06 09:46:00 -
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Ah, for missions your skills should be enough. I think an Ishtar can easily solo LVL-4s with proper equipment. I find Medium drones effective for Anti-Frigate work with NPCs.
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ian666
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Posted - 2006.07.06 10:39:00 -
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You know its a crime to run a Ishtar without T2 Heavy Skills in Drone ! never mind lights or Med's. YAR
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Dakkonfire
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Posted - 2006.07.06 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Depends what you're fighting. Lights vs frigs, Mediums vs cruisers and Heavies vs battleships. Drone were changed recently to act more like turrets, meaning heavies won't do **** to frigs and can be evaded by fast moving cruisers.
I use a Megathron with 5 heavy drones, and I don't have many problems with frigs. When I would run level 3 missions, I just put on a drone navigation computer to boost speed, and my heavies could hit pretty much anything. I also have some skills that boost speed as well though. There were one or two missions that they had troubles with, but other than that, everything was fine.
They definately do take a bit longer to kill, but I wouldn't swap out heavies for something else just on the basis worrying about frigates. ---
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Zed Nash
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Posted - 2006.07.07 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dakkonfire
Originally by: Sarmaul
Depends what you're fighting. Lights vs frigs, Mediums vs cruisers and Heavies vs battleships. Drone were changed recently to act more like turrets, meaning heavies won't do **** to frigs and can be evaded by fast moving cruisers.
I use a Megathron with 5 heavy drones, and I don't have many problems with frigs. When I would run level 3 missions, I just put on a drone navigation computer to boost speed, and my heavies could hit pretty much anything. I also have some skills that boost speed as well though. There were one or two missions that they had troubles with, but other than that, everything was fine.
They definately do take a bit longer to kill, but I wouldn't swap out heavies for something else just on the basis worrying about frigates.
In the context of running lvl3 missions (the OPs stated purpose), heavy drones are overkill. Mediums will hit both cruisers and frigs with better frequency. Heavy drones vs frigs and cruisers is just a useless time-sink when mediums will do it faster, and with less skilling.
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Zed Nash
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Posted - 2006.07.07 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Spanker Hello,
I bought an Ishtar yesterday for literally hundreds of millions of ISK. Then I started thinking... maybe my skills are too crap to use it? I can't use T2 drones you see, and my Heavy drone skill is at 4. Will I be able to use it effectively anyway or should I just stick with my Cerb or Zealot?
Thanks
Enjoy the ship, I do.
T2 lights and mediums are an easy train and adequate for lvl3s, but get Drone Interfacing up to 5 ASAP, that 20%/level damage boost is insane. "Maya Rkell is my online stalker." |

Reggie Stoneloader
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Posted - 2006.07.07 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Spanker I bought an Ishtar ... my Cerb or Zealot?
Good Lord, man, you've got three different cruiser skills to 5? Since you're comparing the drones to missiles and lasers, I'd have to recommend missiles, due to their versatility. If you've got the skills to T2 your Cerberus to the gills, then it's probably a better choice than the Ishtar for missions until you get those medium drones up to T2 levels.
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Kamikaze1
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Posted - 2006.07.07 06:51:00 -
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Edited by: Kamikaze1 on 07/07/2006 06:52:36
Originally by: Sarmaul Edited by: Sarmaul on 06/07/2006 09:39:44 With everything, the higher the skill the better it is. Just fill the mid-slots with jammers and highs with nos and your poor drone skills probably won't matter :)
Btw, get T2 light and medium drones ASAP as they are the sex and only need Scout Drones 5 (5 days) along with the racial drone skills.
try a drone tracking link they work pretty good with t2 ogres and hammerheads against small stuff 
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Father Weebles
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Posted - 2006.07.07 06:59:00 -
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Edited by: Father Weebles on 07/07/2006 06:59:11
Originally by: Aeaus Ah, for missions your skills should be enough. I think an Ishtar can easily solo LVL-4s with proper equipment. I find Medium drones effective for Anti-Frigate work with NPCs.
ditto
also
use heavy drones against bc's
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Father Weebles
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Posted - 2006.07.07 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Zed Nash
Originally by: Spanker Hello,
I bought an Ishtar yesterday for literally hundreds of millions of ISK. Then I started thinking... maybe my skills are too crap to use it? I can't use T2 drones you see, and my Heavy drone skill is at 4. Will I be able to use it effectively anyway or should I just stick with my Cerb or Zealot?
Thanks
Enjoy the ship, I do.
T2 lights and mediums are an easy train and adequate for lvl3s, but get Drone Interfacing up to 5 ASAP, that 20%/level damage boost is insane.
I believe Drone Interfacing V only gives 11% dmg increase(somebody did calculations on the forums a couple weeks ago)
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