| Pages: 1 [2] :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Morkt Drakt
   |
Posted - 2003.10.07 19:42:00 -
[31]
gate rats should be removed now anyway... was in a recent patch that they were being removed i thought?
By the looks of things Furhy's statement about the game not informing others of a ships arrival until the local client has loaded it will resolve the issue of "graphics lag"...
with that though i also hope to see MORE ability and potential areas fromw hich pirates (and good guys) can catcha nd fight others.
The central issue underlieing all of this is that there currently arent enough areas where folks can fight ... and then once there that the range of a warp scrmabler essentially dictates the range of effective combat.
|
Joshua Calvert
|
Posted - 2003.10.07 20:49:00 -
[32]
 Quote:
gate rats should be removed now anyway... was in a recent patch that they were being removed i thought?
By the looks of things Furhy's statement about the game not informing others of a ships arrival until the local client has loaded it will resolve the issue of "graphics lag"...
with that though i also hope to see MORE ability and potential areas fromw hich pirates (and good guys) can catcha nd fight others.
The central issue underlieing all of this is that there currently arent enough areas where folks can fight ... and then once there that the range of a warp scrmabler essentially dictates the range of effective combat.
It's good that jump-in camping will be eradicated with the possible introduction of the server not putting you into space until your surroundings are loading, and warp-in lag will be ceased the same way, but battle will still be in the 20km range.
We still need to be able to adjust the distance we come out of warp.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
McWatt
|
Posted - 2003.10.07 21:09:00 -
[33]
first hand experience 5 min ago.
2 battleships, lots of drones, cruiser half gone when i got active, but at least i could watch the explosion. 
camping is fine with me (of course), but the way it s done makes it battleships only.
sad.
|
Quiz
|
Posted - 2003.10.08 12:06:00 -
[34]
I consider jumpins to be a exploit of the game mechanisms. Why?
Eve is a simulator of sorts, and if the game was real life, combat pilots would not lose the possibility to control their ships (or view the surroundings) at all.
Using the fact that the ships appear in space before the client system has loaded gives the campers a huge advantage. The guy jumping in cant activate any modules or even see the attacker when they blow his ship apart. That, to me, is not the way it should be.
That said, I think pirates should be able to stay in empire space. Having guns at all gates are a bad idea. At least give pirates a way to jam sentries. Today, they use shield transferers and transfer shields to the ship taking the beating from the sentry gun. Again, taking advantage of a flaw in design in the game.
I dont think its good that pirates have to use exploits or flaws to pirate in empire space. Its unfair since you are supposed to be able to play as a pirate. Of course the game could allow pirates only in 0.0 space, but I dont like that idea at all. Too much carebear over the whole thing.
But I do think the fights should be made as fair as possible and not rely on exploits and flaws to win a fight. Outnumbering or out-thinking the opponent is fine, and thats how it should be instead.
|
Luc Boye
|
Posted - 2003.10.08 13:14:00 -
[35]
Edited by: Luc Boye on 08/10/2003 13:17:52
If the game was real life your friends who are docked would grow old while you warp around due to the time dilation (Theory of Relativity).
The other thing is the amount of energy needed to build a wormhole (jump point). This is amusingly speculated upon in the book "How to Build a Time Machine" by Paul Davies.
The 3rd thing is physics of space travel, acceleration, gravity pull, etc.
4th issue would be sound in space.
5th issue ... do you want me to go on?
--
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |
iconoclast
|
Posted - 2003.10.08 14:20:00 -
[36]
Quote:
I dont think its good that pirates have to use exploits or flaws to pirate in empire space. Its unfair since you are supposed to be able to play as a pirate. Of course the game could allow pirates only in 0.0 space, but I dont like that idea at all. Too much carebear over the whole thing.
word
but you should jump to a safe spot when entering a system.
like to a couple of sentry guns in the middle of nowhere. not another gate that can be camped by pirates. a system held under pirate control should be like a roach motel. you jump in fine, but you can't get out - until you call your buddies... and they come help you. or you bid on the bounty channel for "rescue". or you leave your ship, get in a shuttle and die like a real wo/man at the gate.
these things would make the game a lot more fun, and you also wouldnt have a problem with lag or load time. if you warp to another gate, the question is... will CCP still allow gate camping?
|
darth solo
|
Posted - 2003.10.08 14:31:00 -
[37]
We NEED gate camping .
We dont need spawn camping.
Its starnge though, we tried it along time back, and we never had any success .
we never seemed to be able to make enough lag for the incoming rat, we was usually gone before we could lock him , and thats with drones out.
Where as when i jump in, i seem to have mad amounts of lag and cant do jack.
|
Luc Boye
|
Posted - 2003.10.08 14:44:00 -
[38]
People on autopilot warp out pretty fast.
--
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |
Bobby Wilson
|
Posted - 2003.10.08 15:26:00 -
[39]
Quote:
People on autopilot warp out pretty fast.
But then they are already on their way to the gate without checking local. It's a lose/lose situation. If I leave it on AP, I won't know what could be at the gate. If I turn AP off I'm more likely to die at the jump-in point. It stills seems to come down to "check map and avoid bad systems tonight" rather than "take my chances". Fix the lag and we'd all take our chances...
bw
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
|
darth solo
|
Posted - 2003.10.08 15:34:00 -
[40]
Edited by: darth solo on 08/10/2003 15:34:48
mmmmm, thats gave me an idea
Maybe we should wait at the jump in point AND the gates, be sure to get thoses rats then.
while they talk smack about getting away from our first blockade, they will be warping straight into the cunning trap at the gate .
just kidding folks. see!! im not serious all the time .
|
Sworn
|
Posted - 2003.10.08 15:43:00 -
[41]
 Just being Stupid.....But I saw my Name in a few posts...I didnt know I was popular....
P.S. I'm being Goofy....siting at school Bored
|
Quiz
|
Posted - 2003.10.09 11:29:00 -
[42]
Use the time to learn something perhaps? :)
|
darth solo
|
Posted - 2003.10.09 11:33:00 -
[43]
Quote:
Use the time to learn something perhaps? :)
|
Roshan longshot
|
Posted - 2003.10.10 01:04:00 -
[44]
Quote:
If your a pirate or your in a war you need to go where the targets are. That means Gates, Jump-in points, and roid belts.
Now you said it..."Roid belts" Now the miners cant mine in AFK safety. What is that "REAL" Pirates dont do roid belts?? Where is the challange in shooting someone who as far as he nows he is still in the last system he was in. Then finding his self in the station where his clone is stored? Not everyone has cable or DSL for games. I have enough money going out for bills as it is. Get some real challange and go fly around some belts, you might find a AFK miner there
REAL PIRATES HUNT they dont sit and wait for the next weak prey to come to them. REAL pirates dont fly around in a million spare parts flying in close formation when a smaller cruiser or frigate gets the job done just as nice.
REAL Pirates will take monetary funds in exchange for not blowing up a ship.
REAL Pirates will say jettison the cargo or die!!!
REAL Pirates will at least say somthing to you as you float away from a million isk junkpile..
REAL pirates will steal,cheat,backstab, and just do any dirty tricks they can to get some cargo from you besides killing for bio mass that sells for 200isk.
IN truth I have ran accross some out there in the beyound, (0.0) the campers and griefers are easy to get around. Its the one that comes in the belt to fight that gets me.
SHIPS LOST:
1 Triston (Npc)
2 Thorax (Billy Bob) and (Npc)
1 clone (Billy Bob)
8 Wasp drones to GRAMPS
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
|
Miz Cenuij
|
Posted - 2003.10.10 01:20:00 -
[45]
As you come out of warp, on occasions it takes a few seconds for the pilot to overcome the effects of the physical trauma gate jumping can cause. This dis-orientation is often called "lagging".
There you go CCP, lag explained. NO need to change anything, its just fine the way it is.
"Men are going to die..
and im going to kill them". |
Amorex
|
Posted - 2003.10.11 16:28:00 -
[46]
Everyone saw movie "Wing Commander"?
If yes then you must be remember how human fleet defet the Kilrath Empire Armada?
By camping Jump-in point. So stop whining about it.
P.S.:Case is closed.
|
what
|
Posted - 2003.10.12 16:53:00 -
[47]
Quote:
Quote:
If your a pirate or your in a war you need to go where the targets are. That means Gates, Jump-in points, and roid belts.
Now you said it..."Roid belts" Now the miners cant mine in AFK safety. What is that "REAL" Pirates dont do roid belts?? Where is the challange in shooting someone who as far as he nows he is still in the last system he was in. Then finding his self in the station where his clone is stored? Not everyone has cable or DSL for games. I have enough money going out for bills as it is. Get some real challange and go fly around some belts, you might find a AFK miner there
REAL PIRATES HUNT they dont sit and wait for the next weak prey to come to them. REAL pirates dont fly around in a million spare parts flying in close formation when a smaller cruiser or frigate gets the job done just as nice.
REAL Pirates will take monetary funds in exchange for not blowing up a ship.
REAL Pirates will say jettison the cargo or die!!!
REAL Pirates will at least say somthing to you as you float away from a million isk junkpile..
REAL pirates will steal,cheat,backstab, and just do any dirty tricks they can to get some cargo from you besides killing for bio mass that sells for 200isk.
IN truth I have ran accross some out there in the beyound, (0.0) the campers and griefers are easy to get around. Its the one that comes in the belt to fight that gets me.
SHIPS LOST:
1 Triston (Npc)
2 Thorax (Billy Bob) and (Npc)
1 clone (Billy Bob)
8 Wasp drones to GRAMPS
Sorry but your wrong. Your giving your opinion on how someone should play a role in YOUR world. That's quite against the spirit of the game and general game play. Players can play any role as THEY see fit.
Cheers
|
PropanElgen
|
Posted - 2003.10.12 19:24:00 -
[48]
The problem isnt jump-in camping, the problem is the act of creating as much lag as possible for the players jumping in.
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away...
Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
|
| |
|
| Pages: 1 [2] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |