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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:28:00 -
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Edited by: Crellion on 07/07/2006 12:29:39 TheIon setup posted is the only sane Beagle option. Personally howver I prefer it with an mwd instead of ab and 3 mfsII (you have to drop 1 of the med noses for a small knave). Less tank more gank :D (Eagles are cheap-ish anyway). Edit: make sure you find room for a Large extender you want to be pertially passive tanked on this as cap is tight with mwd on.
The OP set up is of course very bad.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Spanker "The number of midslots caldari ships have make them better to armor tank with than most amarr ships"
Scribble the above sentence down on a napkin, run down to your local pub with your mates and discuss. I'm sure insight will come by the second or third pint. Unless there's girls there. In which case forget everything about eve.
Ewwweewwweeee the terrible ratting set ups with the 5 capIIs ... disgrace.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Spanker
Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Spanker "The number of midslots caldari ships have make them better to armor tank with than most amarr ships"
Scribble the above sentence down on a napkin, run down to your local pub with your mates and discuss. I'm sure insight will come by the second or third pint. Unless there's girls there. In which case forget everything about eve.
Ewwweewwweeee the terrible ratting set ups with the 5 capIIs ... disgrace.
Why is it a disgrace? Since I can't have ballistics in lows? At least I won't blow up like you will after a few despoilers start shooting you. And how many pints did you have anyway, seems an awfully short trip to the pub in the time it took you to reply!
You dont need ballistic in lows. You need mfsII. NPCs can not blow up a HAC in belts or missions or 10/10 plex unless if you ctd ot suffer a stroke or your mouse goes dead or something. Shiled tank takes advantage of the Eagles bonuses and is as strong as the armor tank assisted by cap IIs in mids. So you give up all your lows for nothing.
You dont realise that, even against npc, a very healthy DPS improves your tank imeasurably.
The only correct point on your post is that I didnt go to the pub... I guess you pownt me there 
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Denrace As a long time Blasteagle pilot, I must say thats the worst setup i have EVER seen, no offence intended though.
Its just really really bad.
Dude...PASSIVE tank with extenders, and a rack of DMG mods.
Nuff said!
Den
While I agree with you Den (see my posts above) the L booster tank though far inferior for generic tank purposes allows you to carry a scram (the passive tank eith 1 extender also needs a booster to be effective, with two extenders no room for scram) so its valid in some cases... All things considered I still prefer the passive tank.
OC 3 mfsII is the way, 3 pdsII is a waste of a Beagle (or rail Eagle for that matter).
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Crellion on 07/07/2006 16:22:40
Originally by: Nicose all those who thought this guys idea sucked.....STFU! you'll be laughing on the other side of your face when you get WTFPWND by a caldari blaster ship. 
You meant that he came up with it liek 2 years ago or that a Deagle is different to a Beagle 
Edit: @OP one last time: Demios = henchman Deimos = a moon -of March I think and a minor greek demi-god (or quarter-god not sure) get the names right the ship is Deimos.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: DirtyDozen 4 Hvy Neutron t2 2 hvy missles t2
Med Shield boost t2 Invuln t2 EM t2 Fleeting Web 10mn ab t2
3 mag stab t2 (or 2 magstab2 and 1 tracking enhancer t2) 1 pdu t2
I haven't gone solo in this setup but works great for gangs.
Drop the inv drop the neuts fit Ions fit L extender II, drop ab fit mwd tell me what you think after you have tried that.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: DirtyDozen Edited by: DirtyDozen on 07/07/2006 17:21:26
Originally by: Crellion Edited by: Crellion on 07/07/2006 16:25:23
Originally by: DirtyDozen 4 Hvy Neutron t2 2 hvy missles t2
Med Shield boost t2 Invuln t2 EM t2 Fleeting Web 10mn ab t2
3 mag stab t2 (or 2 magstab2 and 1 tracking enhancer t2) 1 pdu t2
I haven't gone solo in this setup but works great for gangs.
Drop the inv drop the neuts fit Ions fit L extender II, drop ab fit mwd tell me what you think after you have tried that. (you said gang so I ll let you keep the launchers instead of Nos )
Yeah i like the launchers cause i can fit furies and cause mass damage. But switching the neuts to ions, is that for fitting purposes? I've always felt like an mwd on a caldari ship is like suicide but i'll try it out. I do somewhere around 698 wreckings w/ the neuts, so i just kinda liked them since then. I have maxed out eagle skills across the board.
I'm always open to suggestions , so if there are anymore shoot away.
I am not saying its like a Rule. Its just that I like extenders (L) and mwd and therefore dont mind droping my Neuts for Ions. A bit less range a bit more tracking meh.
As for mwds, point taken but (a) thats why you passive tank it -partially- (b) Eagle's cap is much better than the Cerbs and oc much better than any other Caldari ship (bar tech II BCs which I havent touched due to lack of SPs not interest)
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Crellion on 07/07/2006 18:09:58
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Mine:
4 Hvy Ions T2, 2 Named Med NOS, 10MN MWD T2, 2 Large Shield Extenders T2, 1 Domination Warp, Fleeting Web 1 RCU T2, 2 PDU T2, 1 Mag stab T2
Jenny you have a HAC there (well almost a HAC Eagle isnt quite a HAC is it?) with a 20% resist on EM on its tank... it can get messy if you meet lasers or missles or projectiles or even Em drone users (rare)... I never used a tech II Caldari ship without an Em hardener tbh ... (ceptors excluded)
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Mine:
4 Hvy Ions T2, 2 Named Med NOS, 10MN MWD T2, 2 Large Shield Extenders T2, 1 Domination Warp, Fleeting Web 1 RCU T2, 2 PDU T2, 1 Mag stab T2
Jenny you have a HAC there (well almost a HAC Eagle isnt quite a HAC is it?) with a 20% resist on EM on its tank... it can get messy if you meet lasers or missles or even Em drone users (rare)... I never used a tech II Caldari ship without an Em hardener tbh ... (ceptors excluded)
I would go for Photon Hardeners but really no point. Mids are hard to setup. If not large shield extenders then mids are very easy.
MWD, Web, Scramb, Photon Hardener, Large Shield Booster.
Then again, PvP isnt consentual. Dont fight Amarr. 
Hehe a compromise is 1 L extend instead of the scram or and med booster but this is good too.
Dont fight ammar is only half the story: Dont fight ammar, dont fight a/c ships dont fight phoons dont fight Caldari dont fight Gallente with spare Em drones dont fight Thoraxes fitted with 425 a/cs ... thats a long list Jenny :P
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