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Ashlar Vellum
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.03 00:13:00 -
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Well, come on you are comparing apples and oranges. One was throw of the gauntlet by AVNG other was just a campaign. (~250 billion in loses from both sides vs ~61 billion in loses from both sides; ~3000 pilots vs ~1400 pilots and so on)
Unless of course main purposes of your post is to troll amarrian vengeance. ;P
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
857
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Posted - 2014.08.11 08:54:00 -
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In other news,
Rumor has it an Amarrian Vengeance pilot passed through Huola today on his way to Kourm...... Reports of 12 shared Gallente/Minmatar intel channels started flashing simultaneously cannot be confirmed nor denied at this time.
More at 11. Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
857
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Posted - 2014.08.11 09:21:00 -
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Merely Runaway wrote:
+1 this even without anyone talking about a "headshot"
Also, if it wasn't a serious attempt to take Huola then why did AVNG implode?
AVNG imploding has nothing to do a headshot. In fact lets be clear the only reason people even brought up the whole 'failed to headshot' thing was to demoralize the attackers. Let's face it and give into the facts no one knew exactly how long the Amarr were going to stay or how long burn houla was going to last.
The minmatar were so desperate to latch onto any type of moral victory that someone was even taunting the amarr for not taking the system fast in enough.
As in 'HaHa you didnt take it in a week you failed go home now so I can spin ships in peace and mission with my alt.'
Did burn Huola fail in it's original goal? Yes
Did it fail because of the leet combined forces were to strong? No.
Did it deliver some epic content that will be remembered for a very long time to come? Yes.
In the end of the day people can say whatever they think but the only reason Huola is still Minmatar today is lack of cordination.
Oh and the whole 'if you didnt mean to headshot it why did you plex it up so hi the first few days?" argument?
It's not our fault the Minmatar had to wait for reinforcements before finally acting.
So many Amarr pilots were bored out of their brains for PvP and at a moments notice Everyone was in for taking Huola for the pew, even Almity resubbed for the event.
Bottom line:
1-Minmatar leadership cry and complain about lack of PvP but can't be bothered to jump a gate or two so someone had to 'bring it to them'
2-For someone so 'starved' for PvP the minnies sure as hell tried their hardest to claim some kind of victory all throughout the campaign to just 'make it all go away'
3-If you really want to know who was starved for pvp and who was shaking in their boots just see how many Amarr poses went up and how many 'screams for allies' went up at the same time.
4-GF everyone Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade Iron Oxide.
31
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Posted - 2014.08.11 09:23:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:In other news,
Rumor has it an Amarrian Vengeance pilot passed through Huola today on his way to Kourm...... Reports of 12 shared Gallente/Minmatar intel channels started flashing simultaneously cannot be confirmed nor denied at this time.
More at 11.
In other news Amarr Militia continues its fail cascade as Biohazard retreat to NPC Null and drop militia - taking over 100 of the Empresses pilots with them. The impact of operation Burn(out) Huola continues to reverberate around the WZ... |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
857
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Posted - 2014.08.11 09:25:00 -
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Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:In other news,
Rumor has it an Amarrian Vengeance pilot passed through Huola today on his way to Kourm...... Reports of 12 shared Gallente/Minmatar intel channels started flashing simultaneously cannot be confirmed nor denied at this time.
More at 11. In other news Amarr Militia continues its fail cascade as Biohazard retreat to NPC Null and drop militia - taking over 100 of the Empresses pilots with them. The impact of operation Burn(out) Huola continues to reverberate around the WZ...
yay, what a sigh of relief, now we can all go back to the important business of sitting in a station doing nothing or chasing stabbed farmers.
Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1065
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Posted - 2014.08.11 09:46:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:Did it fail because of the leet combined forces were to strong? No.
Its amazing how you cant even correctly answer a question you posed yourself.
Why bother with the spin? You dont even really have a corp to PR for.
The actual bottom line is, at least most of the minnies live in a fw system. |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
857
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Posted - 2014.08.11 10:34:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:Did it fail because of the leet combined forces were to strong? No. Its amazing how you cant even correctly answer a question you posed yourself. Why bother with the spin? You dont even really have a corp to PR for. The actual bottom line is, at least most of the minnies live in a fw system.
While I'm sure the few days you spent in Huola burning off the actual engagements in your 7kms Maulus/Keres makes you an absolute expert on the inner politics and wheelings and dealings of the Amarr, hey it might even substitute for actually being on the comms for all the amarr command meetings, call me crazy but I'm going to go with what I actually saw and heard on this one.
Also speaking of my 'corp', you do spend alot of time putting it down here again and again, do I detect some subconscious hostility ? maybe even some kind of sour grapes syndrome?
Anyway do pardon my lack of enthusiasm for EVE and FW anymore, it was a great time logging into EVE and jumping straight into a 20 or 30 vs 30 fight while it lasted.
While burnout might be a factor yes, I just hate the fact that now it's back from non stop epic fleet fight brawls in Huola to chasing the minnie and gallente alts from plex to plex or waiting for the terribad local pirates stack up on a gate next door and send an incursus into my plex. It's so meh.
As for Amarrian Vengeance....well...for now...the Angels sleep....like they always do after a huge campaign. Maybe they will be back, maybe they wont. Who knows.
Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Super Chair
Project Cerberus Templis CALSF
642
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Posted - 2014.08.11 11:07:00 -
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Mantis I don't understand how you put up with the lack of small gang pvp in amarr FW. Come vacation in blackrise |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
857
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Posted - 2014.08.11 11:16:00 -
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As you wish Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Major Trant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
908
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Posted - 2014.08.11 11:31:00 -
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How does one go about getting their thread locked?
If it is just requesting it here - CCP please lock this thread. CTRL-Q - Minmatar FW - Low Sec PvP - Euro TZ - New Player Friendly Contact: Major Trant In game channel: FeO Public Recruitment thread: CTRL-Q |
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1065
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Posted - 2014.08.11 11:45:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:Also speaking of my 'corp', you do spend alot of time putting it down here again and again, do I detect some subconscious hostility ? maybe even some kind of sour grapes syndrome?
Im just making accurate counter points to the unjustified relevance you seem to place on what was obviously a fragile corp more known for its actions in the local chat window than anywhere else.
As for the amarr, are you telling me im mistaken that they live outside FW? Ducking the best conflict driver we have then complaining there is no combat is amusing. |
Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
101
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Posted - 2014.08.11 11:55:00 -
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Major Trant wrote:1. Before starting the campaign carry out a reality check. Are your leaders arseholes? 2. When bragging about your achievements, achieve them first. . Right: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=360868&find=unread. Wrong: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=356851&find=unread3. When scheduling your allies to cover times and plexes, try to avoid putting allies together who hate each others guts. 4. Do not compare yourself to the Elite Special Forces in RL, you are a nerd in a bugged and flawed internet game. If you really were that good, you wouldn't be here. 5. If you are going to carry out some form of Psy-op campaign against the enemy. Try to have some method of measuring the effectiveness of your strategy. Just guessing the effect and making a lot of noise about it, only makes you look stupid. 6. When deciding whether you are winning or not, you have to factor in the enemies objectives in the equation. So for example picking off a Rifter in a novice plex with a Garmur is not a win, if the enemy close the plex. 7. Find out the smack talk policies of your allies and try to avoid putting allies with conflicting policies in the system at the same time. 8. Before posting stuff on the forum understand that nobody gives a f*ck and probably won't even read your post unless it is the OP, the first couple of replies and maybe the last reply. 9. Be ready for setbacks in your plans and have an excuse ready. 10. Before lying about some fact, try to think ahead about how your enemy may use it against you later. 11. Remember the lies you have told, otherwise someone else will read them back to you at the most inappropriate moment. 12. Keep your publically stated goals vague so that you can change them later as the situation dictates. 13. Have a timetable to end the campaign (you don't have to tell the enemy). Just plugging on until your friends and allies are burnt out and desert you is the worst outcome you can engineer. 14. Only a c*nt rage quits after 12 days and abandons the people he brought into the campaign. 15. But don't worry, if the worst comes to the worst, there is always WoW.
All these steps are wrong, simply cause number one is not have Corsi leading the invasion, PERUNGA gate camping the system, and XG being space Jesus. And to be fair the last is the only reason anything campaigne in th Gal Mil works.
Blasters for life
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Zarnak Wulf
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
1812
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Posted - 2014.08.11 12:07:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:Also speaking of my 'corp', you do spend alot of time putting it down here again and again, do I detect some subconscious hostility ? maybe even some kind of sour grapes syndrome? Im just making accurate counter points to the unjustified relevance you seem to place on what was obviously a fragile corp more known for its actions in the local chat window than anywhere else. As for the amarr, are you telling me im mistaken that they live outside FW? Ducking the best conflict driver we have then complaining there is no combat is amusing.
This won't change without a lot new blood coming into Amarr. I'll personally just choose to go dormant and see if any serious contender develops in the Amarr militia. Other games are just more appealing time/ reward - wise. Also - lived in the war zone for the entirety of my militia time as many of my friends have as well. |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
857
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Posted - 2014.08.11 12:23:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote: Im just making accurate counter points to the unjustified relevance you seem to place on what was obviously a fragile corp more known for its actions in the local chat window than anywhere else.
As for the amarr, are you telling me im mistaken that they live outside FW? Ducking the best conflict driver we have then complaining there is no combat is amusing.
You'll get a chance to do alot of ducking real soon yourself I assure you. Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
657
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Posted - 2014.08.11 12:36:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:Also speaking of my 'corp', you do spend alot of time putting it down here again and again, do I detect some subconscious hostility ? maybe even some kind of sour grapes syndrome? Im just making accurate counter points to the unjustified relevance you seem to place on what was obviously a fragile corp more known for its actions in the local chat window than anywhere else. As for the amarr, are you telling me im mistaken that they live outside FW? Ducking the best conflict driver we have then complaining there is no combat is amusing.
We live in sis, we have always lived in sis. We fallback to egg when we lose sis, its simple. Like anyone else that would have to fall back if they lose their home. In fact right now your spais should be telling you that we probably couldn't defend it if minnies/galls attacked.
Just saying.
Your forumfu is pretty impressive crosi but you really are starting to look like a man on a mission to whine about aveng too much. They have done a lot more to talk about than you in this warzone and will always be a major part of amarr militia history. To say otherwise is silly. Like them or not they've made massive impact in this warzone and as I udnerstand it over in caldari/gall one too when deployed there.
You know that though.... personal axe to grind still?
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1065
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Posted - 2014.08.11 12:46:00 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:Also speaking of my 'corp', you do spend alot of time putting it down here again and again, do I detect some subconscious hostility ? maybe even some kind of sour grapes syndrome? Im just making accurate counter points to the unjustified relevance you seem to place on what was obviously a fragile corp more known for its actions in the local chat window than anywhere else. As for the amarr, are you telling me im mistaken that they live outside FW? Ducking the best conflict driver we have then complaining there is no combat is amusing. We live in sis, we have always lived in sis. We fallback to egg when we lose sis, its simple. Like anyone else that would have to fall back if they lose their home. In fact right now your spais should be telling you that we probably couldn't defend it if minnies/galls attacked. Just saying. Your forumfu is pretty impressive crosi but you really are starting to look like a man on a mission to whine about aveng too much. They have done a lot more to talk about than you in this warzone and will always be a major part of amarr militia history. To say otherwise is silly. Like them or not they've made massive impact in this warzone and as I udnerstand it over in caldari/gall one too when deployed there. You know that though.... personal axe to grind still?
They deployed in south placid (after abandoning the amarr militia). The nearest hotspot being Intaki 2 jumps out which hosted ferocious battles between Val Erian and Drama Ragearion which were pretty much all that was happening around there.
AFAIK JUSTK, much smaller back then, evicted them single-handedly, though im not sure because i didnt even know they were there at the time as was mainly carting caps around on silly ganks.
I did live in bosboger for the best part of a year though, and basically was amazed at those guys local demeanour. Its like test but without the charm. |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
857
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Posted - 2014.08.11 12:51:00 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:
You know that though.... personal axe to grind still?
They deployed in south placid (after abandoning the amarr militia). The nearest hotspot being Intaki 2 jumps out which hosted ferocious battles between Val Erian and Drama Ragearion which were pretty much all that was happening around there. AFAIK JUSTK, much smaller back then, evicted them single-handedly, though im not sure because i didnt even know they were there at the time as was mainly carting caps around on silly ganks.
There it is,,,,,the plot thickens.....care to regal us some more about your initial meetings with AVNG and Damar in the Itanki/Placid area.
I'm sure the readers would love to hear about that one. Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1065
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Posted - 2014.08.11 12:57:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote: They deployed in south placid (after abandoning the amarr militia). The nearest hotspot being Intaki 2 jumps out which hosted ferocious battles between Val Erian and Drama Ragearion which were pretty much all that was happening around there.
There it is,,,,,the plot thickens.....care to regal us some more about your initial meetings with AVNG and Damar in the Itanki/Placid area.
What? where diana kim was using a toon that was blue to my alliance to shoot my alts? Dont recall much else of interest down there really. That was resolved satisfactorily.
Didnt think DK was in your corp. |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
857
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:00:00 -
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Don't deny it mate just tell everyone what happened. I specifically remember it you should to.
/me hands him the doll.... Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1065
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:08:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:Don't deny it mate just tell everyone what happened. I specifically remember it you should to.
/me hands him the doll....
I dont remember, i only ever had this toon down there once for a great fight with saian steel in which i lost a dd to his hawk after he managed to get out the first time and refit to counter.
Other than that i was just running like 4 alts with no guns capping plexes. I was quite happy when there were 3 actual players blocking plexes, was always clearly broken but while the sun shines and all that. But when there were less than 3 id just make sure the one that was free was being run :)
There were lots of other systems to plex (no limit on overplexing back then), but i found it more amusing to give damar something to deplex when he logged on.
Since i was most likely sat on a titan bridge or waiting to undock a dread it was really not a big deal. Made some good intaki isk back then either way :) |
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
857
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:13:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:Don't deny it mate just tell everyone what happened. I specifically remember it you should to.
/me hands him the doll.... I dont remember, i only ever had this toon down there once for a great fight with saian steel in which i lost a dd to his hawk after he managed to get out the first time and refit to counter. Other than that i was just running like 4 alts with no guns capping plexes. I was quite happy when there were 3 actual players blocking plexes, was always clearly broken but while the sun shines and all that. But when there were less than 3 id just make sure the one that was free was being run :) There were lots of other systems to plex (no limit on overplexing back then), but i found it more amusing to give damar something to deplex when he logged on. Since i was most likely sat on a titan bridge or waiting to undock a dread it was really not a big deal. Made some good intaki isk back then either way :)
Close enough. I'll just leave it at that by adding all your alts were watchlisted and constantly hounded by AVNG. Hope that explains your whole 'AVNG forum vendetta' to the average reader.
-Cheers
Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1065
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:19:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:Close enough. I'll just leave it at that by adding all your alts were watchlisted and constantly hounded by AVNG. Hope that explains your whole 'AVNG forum vendetta' to the average reader.
-Cheers
Pretty much reinforces my point about you guys having no impact on our warzone, apart from getting kicked about by JUSTK, only other thing to do down there was to chase 4 derp fit whatever they were idr lol. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2437
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Posted - 2014.08.11 14:12:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:Close enough. I'll just leave it at that by adding all your alts were watchlisted and constantly hounded by AVNG. Hope that explains your whole 'AVNG forum vendetta' to the average reader.
-Cheers Pretty much reinforces my point about you guys having no impact on our warzone, apart from getting kicked about by JUSTK, only other thing to do down there was to chase 4 derp fit whatever they were idr lol. First, we didn't fly derp fits at that time. And second, it was Abannan and Garan Nardieu (Moira.) that kicked them out of Vlill. We were just along for the ride.
Other than that, I heard that Crosi lives in Nisuwa and that he loves to be seiged. |
Anslo
Scope Works
6194
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Posted - 2014.08.11 14:42:00 -
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Look at you nerds, getting all angry and shet.
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1065
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Posted - 2014.08.11 14:53:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:Close enough. I'll just leave it at that by adding all your alts were watchlisted and constantly hounded by AVNG. Hope that explains your whole 'AVNG forum vendetta' to the average reader.
-Cheers Pretty much reinforces my point about you guys having no impact on our warzone, apart from getting kicked about by JUSTK, only other thing to do down there was to chase 4 derp fit whatever they were idr lol. First, we didn't fly derp fits at that time. And second, it was Abannan and Garan Nardieu (Moira.) that kicked them out of Vlill. We were just along for the ride. Other than that, I heard that Crosi lives in Nisuwa and that he loves to be seiged.
I was talking about my farming alts, not you guys. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2437
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Posted - 2014.08.11 16:27:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:I was talking about my farming alts, not you guys. And i though they lived in ostingele? After Vlillirier was defended, they decided to bypass it in an "island hopping" campaign and instead take over the mission systems of Eugales, Intaki, and Ostingele. Damar and a couple alts locked down Eugales, and the Vengeance dudes moved to Ostingele.
Ostingele used to be the home base of the FDU NPC corporation, but CCP moved it to a non-FW system in the middle of nowhere.
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