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Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.01 05:58:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:I heard the high sec exploration combat sites were even better than the anomalies, so I thought I'd try it out. Ran some down and killed some True Sansha rats. Got excited to go loot their wrecks and got a single frequency crystal. Five times in a row. I didn't run any more combat sites after that.
Same **** happens to me in nullsec. Kill a true sansha rat in a belt and get a damn crystal. Its bullshit. Makes going out looking for faction rats not fun anymore. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2014.08.01 06:38:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:I always thought highsec drop rates were a little high considering how often I heard about people getting rare modules there, compared to how bad they often are in nullsec.
Never got anything rare in high sec rats....then again I did not play there for nearly 3 years...
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Tyburn Stannis
Xenon Salvage Inc.
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Posted - 2014.08.01 07:09:00 -
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Seems to be a fall in high end loot drops amongst myself and friends who explore (mostly for fun of sneaking round, loot as a bonus), but could just be RNG. If its an actual programmed change, might not be a bad thing as people will drift away from the profession and I might get through a site without a flock of Herons/ Drakes turning up :)
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Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
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Posted - 2014.08.01 08:28:00 -
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Loot drops in high-sec I find crap these days anyway, but they have nerfed them over the years.
In the past they were always trying to get people to spread out more as they always seem to be having issues with lag. Seemed at the time that the system was running at the outer limits of the technology. They seem to have got over that issue though, maybe through time dilatation and improved technology.
They did try to get people to spread out more that were doing missions at one point by sending them further a field even into low-sec more often. Of course this had the opposite effect by making missioners move away from the systems nearer low-sec with the result of more concentrated groups in the centre regions of high-sec. But it appears they back tracked on this one.
Making high-sec less appealing is not going to get people into low-sec or null it will just give those in high-sec that prefer high-sec less reason to play. You can't force people to do something they don't want to do, in a game. |
Erin Crawford
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Posted - 2014.08.01 08:40:00 -
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Altirius Saldiaro wrote:Same **** happens to me in nullsec. Kill a true sansha rat in a belt and get a damn crystal. Its bullshit. Makes going out looking for faction rats not fun anymore.
Huh, and here I thought that only faction ammo/tags dropped in high-sec and all the good stuff was to be found in null - to encourage explorers not to bother with high sec and move into low/null!
Also, when ever I ask about high sec exploration, the answer is usually: "it's were you train.. go to null to find the good stuff..."
Looks like the exploration 'well' is drying up... |
Erin Crawford
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Posted - 2014.08.01 08:44:00 -
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Grog Aftermath wrote:...Making high-sec less appealing is not going to get people into low-sec or null... True, it'll just make them give up on this type of activity and do something else.
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Erin Crawford
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Posted - 2014.08.01 08:46:00 -
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Ocih wrote:Yet another potential use for those useless Criminal Dog tags. "Here is a Shadow Serpentis Copper tag, Mr. Agent". Agent offers me a mission with benefits. One that requires the Criminal Dog tags being turned in for missions and an Advanced Social skill not available to trial accounts but maybe I'm dreaming.
Cool idea this! |
ImYourMom
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2014.08.01 08:49:00 -
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CCP have seriously nerfed officer and faction spawns. end of really... Stain has definitely been hit hard, you hardly get TS spawns now, never rmind decent loot |
Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
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Posted - 2014.08.01 08:55:00 -
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One other thing about this game (talking high-sec, as I've not seen the changes in low-sec and null over recent years).
In other games they use rare drops to keep interest in killing mobs, it's appeals to peoples gambling side (what's being gambled, well it's your time). It also gives you that boost when you find one.
These days in high-sec I don't get any of that feeling of reward for the time invested in killing things (NPCs).
I'd say 99.9% of what I loot in high-sec is destined to be broken down into minerals. The other 0.01% I may actually be able to use. But 100% of the drops I've had in high-sec over the last few years, there was nothing to get excited about. |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
12572
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Posted - 2014.08.01 09:17:00 -
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I have had two officer spawns in 8 years and one of them dropped tags and ammo
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Erin Crawford
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Posted - 2014.08.01 10:02:00 -
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Just out of curiosity, why did CCP nerf officer and faction spawns so much? Was it an over populated activity?
Did it negatively affect the market values of rare items as they become more popular? |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1406
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Posted - 2014.08.01 11:23:00 -
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It's just a case of rare things being rare, and loot tables in the starter area being terrible. Standard MMO fair if you ask me, whether you have 1/1000 chance for a drop or have to roll for random boss gear in your average themepark. It makes sense the drops/chances increase when you dip in "higher level" areas in those games, so extending that to Eve it makes sense low and null have better drops/chances. At least up to a point where I'd still run a 3/10 in lowsec for the chance to get a 30m Cruiser goodie, and completely ignore hisec.
8 years!? Heck I was done with hisec anoms after 8 weeks.  Well, at least you are persistant so you have that going for you which is nice. I only clear them occasionally when moving fitted ships around, and my going rate is about 1 implant per year from the Faction spawns at the end. But if it's those mods you want, I definately recommend Combat Signatures over Anomalies. |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
532
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Posted - 2014.08.01 11:30:00 -
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Ocih wrote:Marc Durant wrote:I don't bother with anomalies because it's just bad but high sec combat sites can do and pay really well. You can make 250-500 mil a day if you do them right. No bragging, no joke. RNG still happens of course; some days you get nothing, then 3 days in a row a bill. And to be fair to CCP this could be why they nerfed it. If people can spam anoms for 3 weeks and get enough loot to make 800 mil and a Plex they will. While I am motivated by the loot and the prospect of using the loot, I am a small minority in EVE. Most simply see it as a means to an end. It would be nice to see a skill or implant that eliminated trial spamming from the loot tables. Yet another potential use for those useless Criminal Dog tags. "Here is a Shadow Serpentis Copper tag, Mr. Agent". Agent offers me a mission with benefits. One that requires the Criminal Dog tags being turned in for missions and an Advanced Social skill not available to trial accounts but maybe I'm dreaming.
Is anyone sure CCP has nerfed the drops or is it just a case of bad RNG streak?
Personally I haven't had a single faction drop from DEDs since Crius dropped (normally get at least something from every 1 or 2 DED 3 or 4 sites, even if it has little value) and that could be just me being unlucky but I'm hearing the same from the other combat explorers I chat to in both high and low 
+1 for the idea of burning tags in missions, I like that a lot. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7425
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Posted - 2014.08.01 12:13:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:I have had two officer spawns in 8 years and one of them dropped tags and ammo
I've had 2 in 7 years.
Got the 1st one In Fountain and I was super happy. Damn thing *only* dropped about 1.2 bil worth of loot but I was fine with that. So, not having a carrier back then I stuffed it all into a covops and set out for Empire. Made it to that last low sec system before high sec and warped to the out gate.
It was there that I had my very 1st experience with a smart bombing Rokh...... Good news is that none of the officer loot dropped lol. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
682
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Posted - 2014.08.01 18:27:00 -
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Erin Crawford wrote:Ocih wrote:Yet another potential use for those useless Criminal Dog tags. "Here is a Shadow Serpentis Copper tag, Mr. Agent". Agent offers me a mission with benefits. One that requires the Criminal Dog tags being turned in for missions and an Advanced Social skill not available to trial accounts but maybe I'm dreaming. Cool idea this!
They used to have 'Ship logs' drop too and I wonder if the Dog Tags weren't always meant to be content mechanisms. If they were seen as digital dog tags, they could be decrypted by agents to reveal hidden locations. (missions to us) Done properly, new players could be introduced to it too. A single training version tag could be rewarded in the introductory mission that can be turned in to an SOE agent leading to the SOE Arc. An agent who would explain that normally they wouldn't do this sort of thing without proof the Capsuleer was a certified NPC bounty hunter or something maybe? Leading to the NPC Bounty Hunter skill book that allows full accounts to make use of those tags. |
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