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CCP Turtlepower
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Posted - 2014.07.31 16:02:00 -
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Hello pilots!
We are working on few new overview-related features, and a first iteration will go live on Singularity in the very near future.
-You can now share your overview settings in-game! Simply open your overview settings, then drag and drop an icon into chat, and press Enter. If another pilot clicks the link, your overview will completely overwrite his/hers. The overview profiles are stored on the server, so these links can even be added to mails, bios, notepads, etc. and used later. Overview profiles are not "owned" by anyone, and once a profile is stored, anyone can access it given that they have the link. Please note that only default or saved tab presets can be shared. -New overview tabs are now created by clicking a little icon to the right of the rightmost tab, similar to how internet browser tabs can be created.
One more thing: since this is a very new feature which includes changes to how we store overview settings on the server, we reserve the right to clean out all the overview profiles on Singularity if needed (we are not expecting this to be necessary right now, but it might happen).
If you have any questions or comments, or if you can find any bug in these features, please feel free to reply to this thread.
CCP Turtlepower Team Pirate Unicorns |
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CCP Turtlepower
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.31 16:18:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:Who are you? I have never seen you before.
I'm the QA guy on Team Pirate Unicorns. I've been a GM for almost 3 years, just recently moved to QA.
Randy en Viliana wrote:I can see this being abused by people sharing the links as other things, and having settings that are totally messed up. Would not wanna be one to click a link that is supposed to be a contract or fleet, only to have it over-ride my overview with setting that will take me time to correct.
We included a warning box that cannot be suppressed, hopefully that will prevent any misunderstandings. |
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CCP Turtlepower
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.31 16:24:00 -
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Also: we will not be removing the old export/import functionality, so players can still store their overview settings that way. |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.31 16:28:00 -
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Applying glue.
Sisi is now live with these changes and a few other changes (for example further V3 work from Team TriLamdba), which will be part of the next release. Most of the other changes are still in work and there is no need so far for further feedback threads - they will be added as soon as the features are closer to being finished. CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock-á Bug reporting | Mass Testing |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.31 17:42:00 -
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Some of you want ability to "restore" your overview... remember that you can always create a link to your overview the way you like it, so the best way I see to do this (rather than us implementing some "restore overview" behavior) is to create a link with the overview you are happy with and store it in for example your notepad (or bio if you don't mind other people seeing it, or corp bulletins etc). You could store links to "pvp overview", "mining overview", "overview for noobs", and if you happen to override your overview with something you don't like, clicking one of those links will restore it. CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pirate Unicorns |-á@CCP karkur |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.31 17:44:00 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:I like the idea of sharing in general ... BUT not in an all or nothing fashion as presented. Make it possible to add fellow presets to your current profile which you can chose from but don't mess up with your current setup. This would ne a nice feature. We want to keep this fairly simple, but if you want to do something advanced like that, you can import/export.... will that work for you?
CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pirate Unicorns |-á@CCP karkur |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.31 17:46:00 -
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Sugar Kyle wrote:People who have not yet posted on the thread have asked: Condensed tweet: Quote:Can overview settings include colortags and backgrounds, not just preset states & column info? Column/tab info, that is .basically "global" overview settings ought to mean global, not "everything but colors" That should be that way now... colors, priorities, and everything you can set in the "overview setting" window... if that's not the case, please let us know and we'll fix it  CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pirate Unicorns |-á@CCP karkur |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.31 18:00:00 -
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Burneddi wrote:Can you make that automatically back up your current overview before applying the changes? I know there's a confirmation box but with such a radical change that completely overwrites everything, I think it'd be a good practice to automatically back up the settings before overwriting them.
This could use the existing export function, by exporting it as eg. YYYY/MM/DD_backup_001 or something automatically. Not the stupidest idea I've heard Let's look into it CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pirate Unicorns |-á@CCP karkur |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.31 18:03:00 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:CCP karkur wrote:Some of you want ability to "restore" your overview... remember that you can always create a link to your overview the way you like it, so the best way I see to do this (rather than us implementing some "restore overview" behavior) is to create a link with the overview you are happy with and store it in for example your notepad (or bio if you don't mind other people seeing it, or corp bulletins etc). That wway you could store links to many overviews like "pvp overview", "mining overview", "overview for noobs", and if you happen to override your overview with something you don't like, clicking one of those links will restore it. I think it's a bit of an ugly workaround for something which can be messed up with 1 click... If you're adding the feature, I'm sure we'd all benefit you spending the extra few hours to add the necessary polish to it with a revert. Let me look further into it when I get back from vacation 
CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pirate Unicorns |-á@CCP karkur |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.31 19:48:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Does this mean that overview states will finally be made useful?
Example: Show only war targets. The states are not changing (the presentation of them is, so it's more obvious that you are picking what to filter out).
When starting this, I thought we had to completely change the states, so you would pick what you wanted in your overview (example: war targets) rather than what you didn't want. When looking better into it, we quickly ran into this case - I want -5 dudes in my overview so I check them -> my corp mates that are -5 now all show in the overview, not what I want
So (at least for now) it's the same as before, sorry if that's not ideal for you  CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pirate Unicorns |-á@CCP karkur |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.31 19:55:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:what does it actually share? only the overview tab and bracket profiles or also the other settings like priorities etc. All... priorities, colors, blinking settings, groups, states, columns, pre/postfixes on ships, tab setup, tab presets used in the overview and other settings... should be all settings in the overview settings window. CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pirate Unicorns |-á@CCP karkur |
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CCP Turtlepower
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.01 15:29:00 -
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Thanks for all the feedback! We will definitely consider all your great suggestions before we release this feature later this month. Hope you all have a nice weekend  |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.09 19:55:00 -
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Just a heads up: Next time we update Sisi, all existing links will be missing all the tab presets, because a tiny change we had to make.
So if you are using Sisi to practice for the AT and are relying on the new overview links to load different profiles in your overview, you might want to export those overview profiles now. Then before importing them replace the word "profiles" with "presets" in the yaml files you are importing.
(the overview you have active now should work just fine, it's just if you are using existing links/yaml files to load a new overview profile). CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pirate Unicorns |-á@CCP karkur |
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CCP Turtlepower
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.11 10:32:00 -
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Once again, thanks to all of you for the feedback.
Ranger 1 wrote:I think it might have been a bit more appealing if these settings were imported/exported one tab at a time... and only if you have a tab free. Otherwise you are given the proposed prompt to back up that tab in case you prefer your old settings (of course it would give you the option of which tab to overwrite if all of your tabs are full).
Importing an overview profile using this new method will not overwrite any previously saved tab presets (unless they have the same names - an issue we are currently looking into). This means that as long as you remember to save your presets before clicking on a shared overview profile link, you can simply load your saved presets back into any tab with just a few clicks afterwards, effectively mixing and matching two profiles.
Ranger 1 wrote:I've also toyed with the idea that perhaps it might be a good idea to have a popup whenever you are aggressed by someone or something not already on your overview.
That's a really great idea! We will definitely look into this soon :)
One more thing - we are looking into adding some kind of overview history feature, as that would address many concerns voiced in this thread. More details on this later. |
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CCP Turtlepower
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.12 17:51:00 -
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Bessa Miros wrote:can the settings be per character instead of per account?
No, unfortunately not. However, if you save an Overview Preset in a note or email, then you can easily switch between once you have logged in on different characters.
GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:Does the new import/export saving also save the customisable corp/alliance tag input boxes?
Yes!
Niko Lorenzio wrote:I can't figure out how to load an existing preset.
It used to be that you right click on the settings icon in the overview settings window. If I have a bracket preset, how do I load it to modify it?
Right click on a overview tab to load a preset into that tab. |
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CCP Turtlepower
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.13 15:43:00 -
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Legedric Striker wrote:Thie question has been asked before but never got an answer as far as I can see:
Will we be able to add more than 5 tabs to our overview or will it still be limited to 5 tabs? We are not changing this part of the overview at this time, sorry. |
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CCP Turtlepower
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:29:00 -
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We have now added a new tab to the overview settings - History. Here you can see your last 15 loaded overview profiles, and revert back to them easily. We also added a 'Restore' button to the bottom of this window, clicking it will simply undo the last overview profile import. Please update your Singularity client and try it out!
Karash Amerius wrote:Are we able to bracket moons in space again? I will see to it that this is looked into.
Dersen Lowery wrote: 1) What if we could save sets of overview tabs and browse through the sets, and clicking a link added a set? Give them names, and then they would simply appear in the background, with some non-modal notification that "overview set 'LOL n00b" has just been added." Even if the modal dialog stays, I would love to be able to load my overview in sets of tabs.
2) I like the idea that some sort of notification would appear that you were being attacked. I initially thought, "just put them on the current overview tab, flashing red!" but there are some weird edge cases there (person gets attacked at the same time that he switches tabs?) so maybe that one is best served by some modal/centered-on-screen/otherwise hard-to-ignore notification.
1. This is a good idea, but will not be part of this iteration. 2. This is out of scope for this project at the moment, but it is something we are interested in looking deeper into in the coming months. |
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