However, you're probably participating in some buyback program or grinding through risky logistics to get your rocks into hisec.

I'd like to introduce you to ore compression and the jump brdige/titan network.

seed a few better rocks in low sec or something.

Anomalies full of Hedbergite, Hemorphite, Jaspet, and in rare cases Arkonor and Bistot have begun to appear throughout low security space.

Wait.. didn't Lowsec just get Nullsec ores recently? I seem to remember something about that..



Oh that's right.. Miners... its always 'want more'.

You comment on almost every thread on these forums, and never say anything of value.. begone troll

Wait.. didn't Lowsec just get Nullsec ores recently? I seem to remember something about that..



Oh that's right.. Miners... its always 'want more'.

You asked for a buff to Low-Sec mining, he pointed out they recently buffed it , and you apparently don't know how to look for said buffs. How in anyway shape or form is that trolling?

UaE is wrong. You can check my post as to why.

Since Kronos, not Crius I have seen plenty more anomalies then I used to, and many of them have better ores than they used to.
While some of the ores you mentioned have been there all along, they added more quantity.

Wait.. didn't Lowsec just get Nullsec ores recently? I seem to remember something about that..



Oh that's right.. Miners... its always 'want more'.

Since Kronos, not Crius I have seen plenty more anomalies then I used to, and many of them have better ores than they used to.
While some of the ores you mentioned have been there all along, they added more quantity.

UaE is wrong. You can check my post as to why.

You comment on almost every thread on these forums, and never say anything of value.. begone troll

Oh Sibs, What I told you was true, from a certain point of view.

They had buffed lowsec ores a 'wee bit' as per the Kronos notes, and knowing that this had happened, as im sure the OP knew about.. being pro miner with the new Prospect frigate and all, he wanted more. So, broad generalization or not, I was correct.

Oh Sibs, What I told you was true, from a certain point of view.

They had buffed lowsec ores a 'wee bit' as per the Kronos notes, and knowing that this had happened, as im sure the OP knew about.. being pro miner with the new Prospect frigate and all, he wanted more. So, broad generalization or not, I was correct.



Second law of Trollodynamics states that 'Just because someone disagrees with you, they must be trolling."

The Third law of Trollodynamics states that 'Just because you were proven wrong, doesn't necessarily mean you were trolled.'

In case you wanted to know, the First Law of Trollodynamics states that 'Trolling in a troll thread isn't trolling, but is in fact being on topic. Anyone who decides to post on topic in a troll thread is in fact themselves trolling.'

You disagree with almost every one.. you prowl these forums spamming, stop crying and can I have your stuffz when you go and similar things.

Quantity was added yes, not quality. adding more of those ore's did not help as their are still very few miners mining in low sec. . it Made zero difference I could mine sed ore and not run out before I can still mine that ore and not run out now. And ill still be better off mining Vledspar while watching net flix in high sec.

Thing is, you're doing it wrong.

You shouldn't be mining in lowsec all alone, with no backup.

Granted, once you get into a corp, and have the power to secure yourself in lowsec, you'll typically start looking to nullsec ...

But they did add quality.. they added Arkonor and Bistot, 2 higher quality ores that Lowsec did not have before!

Why should mining in a frigate be more lucrative than mining in a barge? Regardless of sec, regardless of the quality of the ores being mined.. the barge will ALWAYS mine more than the frigate. Always. A retriever will mine more ISK in veldspar in an hour than your Prospect will mine in ABCs in that same hour no matter what. That's just the nature of the beast.

Now what id like to disagree with is your choice to mine while AFK in highsec. You should really forgo watching Netflix in favor of being at your keyboard and paying attention! Also, don't forget to fit tank over yield, and be friendly in local.

I didn't realize that I spam 'can I have your stuff?'. That seems a tad childish of me and I apologize. Perhaps maybe we started off on the wrong foot. If you happen to leave Eve for any reason, I would be glad to hold on to your belongings.. as a trusted friend.

As it happens a prospect can match the retriever in yield it does have a smaller hold so solo would loose money on more redocks etc. So your why should a frigate mine more than a barge point is mute.. Its a T2 frig and a barge is T1 the prospect can already compete with barges -- not exhumers of course

But im no talking about that.. compare a prospect mining low to a prospect mining in high both solo both unboosted with no haulers. The hi sec prospect can do so with out interruption, no cloaking up or spamming D scan needed, it has no messing around hauling goods threw low sec to sell. And regardless of all of those things the price of low sec ore is quite close to high sec ore.

Arkonor and Bistot are very rare in those anoms.. 99.9% of the anoms are jaspet and gneiss. Finding Arkonor is such a rare find it does not come into the equation.

Well if you are not opposed to going into lowsec and into harms way, then why not dive into WHs and Ninja gas and such for much much better ISK? Why not go into null and mine the good stuffs? Its clear that you have use of D-scan down and are able to pay attention to local for threats, why not apply these skills in more profitable places?

It makes more sense to go where the money is, than to ask the heavens to change.

Well if you are not opposed to going into lowsec and into harms way, then why not dive into WHs and Ninja gas and such for much much better ISK? Why not go into null and mine the good stuffs? Its clear that you have use of D-scan down and are able to pay attention to local for threats, why not apply these skills in more profitable places?

It makes more sense to go where the money is, than to ask the heavens to change.

But being able to make isk in those places should not mean i shouldn't be able to make money in low sec-- at least as much as i can solo in high.

Lowsec can be and is extremely profitable, just not when it comes to mining. Running FW and/or exploration sites, and the new whatchamacallit sites, not to mention the new Mordus belt rats that drop them tasty and very profitable BPCs.. Lowsec is a buffet of ISK compared to the sloth habitat that is highsec.

About these Mordus belt rats, are they any low sec or are they confined to a region ?

The larger part of the supply will come from a set of new NPCs that will spawn in all lowsec asteroid belts. These will be uncommon npcs with a similar rarity to hauler spawns. Each NPC will appear by itself and will drop the blueprint for its associated ship 100% of the time. The chance of these MorduGÇÖs Legion NPCs spawning is equal in all areas of lowsec.

Mordu's Legion ship Blueprints can also be found on new Mordu's Legion NPC patrols anywhere in low security space

As it happens a prospect can match the retriever in yield it does have a smaller hold so solo would loose money on more redocks etc. So your why should a frigate mine more than a barge point is mute.. Its a T2 frig and a barge is T1 the prospect can already compete with barges -- not exhumers of course

But im no talking about that.. compare a prospect mining low to a prospect mining in high both solo both unboosted with no haulers.

Arkonor and Bistot are very rare in those anoms.. 99.9% of the anoms are jaspet and gneiss. Finding Arkonor is such a rare find it does not come into the equation.

People always say you're doing it wrong if you're mining without backup in lowsec but the fact is thanks to the boring blue doughnut the moment you can defend yourself some bored middle managers will bridge on you and you'll be right back at square one.

But the forums are mostly populated by players from null so now that I've said this your thread can only go downhill.

this exact scenario happened to me and some buddies on a roam.

it's all fun and games until 10000 blackops are bearing down on your meager thorax.

This is where player driven content comes in, OP.

Get a band of crazy miners who are bored of High Sec. Find some combat pilots who want to gain access to Low Sec. Then create a corp that acts as a platform to introduce these people with different agendas but similar desires. Soon enough you will have enough people to take control of a little region of Low Sec.

Have your combat guys camp a gate or go roaming in their region. You can guarantee that enough people will realize that they should not go into your territory solo. Your miners will be relatively safe. You can orca boost from a POS.

That's what I would do if I was so hell bent on mining in Low-Sec.

You comment on almost every thread on these forums, and never say anything of value.. begone troll

Hello OP. One of my favorite things to do in EVE Online is problem solving and working out creative solutions.

Instead of flaming you, I want to actually try to help you with this issue because... I agree with you that LowSec is one of the areas of the game that needs help. However, recent changes may have made LowSec mining viable for you.

Because compression is now so easily available to people, hauling ore around has never been easier. For example, 100 units of Hedbergite takes of 300m3. However, compressed, this same amount of ore takes up only 0.14m3. So 100,000 units of Hedbergite - 300,000m3 of ore - can be smooshed into just 140m3. This is petty amazing! (My math might be wrong).

A Compression Array costs 58 million ISK in Amarr. It fits on a small tower. An Intensive Reprocessing Array is 65 million ISK in Amarr and also fits on a small tower. A small tower costs around 70-80 million ISK depending on race, and will cost 10 fuel blocks - or 209,000 ISK - to run for an hour.

If you can fly cloaking transport ships, you can easily fit a tower, a compression or reprocessing array, a Retriever or Covetor, and crystals as well as fuel into it and carry this into LowSec and to a station of your choosing. From there, the setup is relatively simple - you anchor and online the tower, set up the array (compression or reprocessing, depending on what will make you more ISK) and get to work mining. The transport ship also takes the finished products out of system. When you're done mining, take your tower down, and anchor it again when you want to mine more.

The advantage of the POS is that you can use boosts from an Orca or Rorqual inside the shield.

The disadvantage of this system is the amount of work needed (for a solo operation) and the risk of losing ships.

The trick is

1. Finding an out of the way LowSec where not many people go (a website called "dotlan" can help you) and has empty moons.
2. Getting the Orca into LowSec if you decide to use boosts.

Of course, you can always find a group that lives in LowSec and does mining to join. They do exist.

EDIT: I would like to add, OP, that -1.0 level ore anomalies are available to you just 1 jump from HiSec if you're daring, know how to bookmark, and have your probing skills trained.

SOLO PLAYER !!. who is he going to boost in this orcca?, how will he defend his tower other than hiring help. not a viable option. Creative solution, fail.

SOLO PLAYER !!. who is he going to boost in this orcca?, how will he defend his tower other than hiring help. not a viable option. Creative solution, fail.