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Dexter Lofe Homer's Revenge 0	Posted - 2011.11.21 17:33:00 - [1] - Quote I've run the 5/10 blood raider psychotropics depot about 8 times now. I used to get an ashimmu bpc and several hundred mil of deadspace/faction loot every time. However, the past 2 times now it has dropped only the 18th tier overseer's personal effects. No BPC, no loot, nothing else cept a meta smartbomb. ****! Is it typical that sometimes a non-drone DED site will drop only the OPE?
Emperor Salazar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 180	Posted - 2011.11.21 17:46:00 - [2] - Quote Dexter Lofe wrote: I've run the 5/10 blood raider psychotropics depot about 8 times now. I used to get an ashimmu bpc and several hundred mil of deadspace/faction loot every time. However, the past 2 times now it has dropped only the 18th tier overseer's personal effects. No BPC, no loot, nothing else cept a meta smartbomb. ****! Is it typical that sometimes a non-drone DED site will drop only the OPE? Sweet troll brah.
Twisted Ideals The dark fourth Dimension 0	Posted - 2011.11.21 17:53:00 - [3] - Quote random blah...u got lucky so far...blub...rant...randomness...blah.... satisfied?
Dexter Lofe Homer's Revenge 0	Posted - 2011.11.21 18:40:00 - [4] - Quote Twisted Ideals wrote: random blah...u got lucky so far...blub...rant...randomness...blah.... satisfied? So... "no"? thanks btw, not a troll
Tamiya Sarossa Hedion University Amarr Empire 89	Posted - 2011.11.21 18:46:00 - [5] - Quote Some would probably say that it's the norm for DED sites to drop only the OPE. RNG is random, two is not sufficient sample size to draw any conclusions, etc. But yeah, what you saw is normal.
St Mio Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 151	Posted - 2011.11.21 19:02:00 - [6] - Quote Recommended reading
Emperor Salazar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 180	Posted - 2011.11.21 19:37:00 - [7] - Quote If not a troll, then answer me this: How do you think the modules you have gotten in the past have the value they do? Do you think they are static prices set by the players? Set by CCP? No. Its simple: rarity. If amazing modules dropped every time, supply would increase greatly and thus prices would plummet. Try to use some logic before posting. Also do some reading about probability and statistics.
1-Up Mushroom Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 117	Posted - 2011.11.21 19:57:00 - [8] - Quote Cmon dude, really, really... 5 Senses In A Person... 4 Seasons In A Year... 3 Colors In A Stoplight... 2 Poles On The Earth... ONLY 1-UP MUSHROOM!!!-á If You Like My Sig, Like Me!
Dexter Lofe Homer's Revenge 0	Posted - 2011.11.21 20:09:00 - [9] - Quote Emperor Salazar wrote: If not a troll, then answer me this: How do you think the modules you have gotten in the past have the value they do? Do you think they are static prices set by the players? Set by CCP? No. Its simple: rarity. If amazing modules dropped every time, supply would increase greatly and thus prices would plummet. Try to use some logic before posting. Also do some reading about probability and statistics. Not sure what you're talking about. I was asking if it these sites always drop deadspace loot or if they occasionally only dropped ope's.
Elezondo EVE University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2011.11.21 22:06:00 - [10] - Quote Dexter Lofe wrote: Emperor Salazar wrote: If not a troll, then answer me this: How do you think the modules you have gotten in the past have the value they do? Do you think they are static prices set by the players? Set by CCP? No. Its simple: rarity. If amazing modules dropped every time, supply would increase greatly and thus prices would plummet. Try to use some logic before posting. Also do some reading about probability and statistics. Not sure what you're talking about. I was asking if it these sites always drop deadspace loot or if they occasionally only dropped ope's. As has already been mentiontion in this thread multiple times, no deadspace loot or BPC is guarenteed to drop.
Emperor Salazar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 180	Posted - 2011.11.21 22:49:00 - [11] - Quote Dexter Lofe wrote: Emperor Salazar wrote: If not a troll, then answer me this: How do you think the modules you have gotten in the past have the value they do? Do you think they are static prices set by the players? Set by CCP? No. Its simple: rarity. If amazing modules dropped every time, supply would increase greatly and thus prices would plummet. Try to use some logic before posting. Also do some reading about probability and statistics. Not sure what you're talking about. I was asking if it these sites always drop deadspace loot or if they occasionally only dropped ope's. Which is a stupid question, if you have any sense of logic at all.
Dexter Lofe Homer's Revenge 0	Posted - 2011.11.22 00:34:00 - [12] - Quote Emperor Salazar wrote: Dexter Lofe wrote: Emperor Salazar wrote: If not a troll, then answer me this: How do you think the modules you have gotten in the past have the value they do? Do you think they are static prices set by the players? Set by CCP? No. Its simple: rarity. If amazing modules dropped every time, supply would increase greatly and thus prices would plummet. Try to use some logic before posting. Also do some reading about probability and statistics. Not sure what you're talking about. I was asking if it these sites always drop deadspace loot or if they occasionally only dropped ope's. Which is a stupid question, if you have any sense of logic at all. middle school flashback
mxzf Shovel Bros 165	Posted - 2011.11.22 03:10:00 - [13] - Quote While I understand Salazar's trolling of someone who didn't bother doing ANY research at all before posting, I'll break this down simply for you: When exploring, NOTHING is guaranteed. Anything you get is by the grace and good will of our holy RNG gods. The only things that can improve your chances of getting shiny stuff are sacrifices of Exotic Dancers, Spirits, and Toxic Waste (leave them in jetcans near the sun in any system whose name both starts and ends with a vowel).
St Mio Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 151	Posted - 2011.11.22 05:59:00 - [14] - Quote Technically, you're guaranteed a chance of getting loot :P But yeah, overseers can drop OPE only, they can drop OPE and random meta crap, they can drop OPE and a faction mod, they can drop OPE, 3 faction mods, a BPC and an implant and give you T2 salvage, or they could even drop no OPE or faction/deadspace loot.
Twisted Ideals The dark fourth Dimension 0	Posted - 2011.11.22 08:54:00 - [15] - Quote Tamiya Sarossa wrote: RNG is random Thanks for pointing that out...
Dexter Lofe Homer's Revenge 0	Posted - 2011.11.22 13:02:00 - [16] - Quote St Mio wrote: Technically, you're guaranteed a chance of getting loot :P But yeah, overseers can drop OPE only, they can drop OPE and random meta crap, they can drop OPE and a faction mod, they can drop OPE, 3 faction mods, a BPC and an implant and give you T2 salvage, or they could even drop no OPE or faction/deadspace loot. Thanks 3rd in a row now. Almost no info available about this site btw.
St Mio Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 152	Posted - 2011.11.22 13:18:00 - [17] - Quote There's no info because they were only added a few months ago whereas most of the others have been there for years :P I personally updated/added the Gurista and Sansha ones but haven't done the Blood Raider 5/10 yet.
Emperor Salazar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 180	Posted - 2011.11.22 18:41:00 - [18] - Quote Dexter Lofe wrote: St Mio wrote: Technically, you're guaranteed a chance of getting loot :P But yeah, overseers can drop OPE only, they can drop OPE and random meta crap, they can drop OPE and a faction mod, they can drop OPE, 3 faction mods, a BPC and an implant and give you T2 salvage, or they could even drop no OPE or faction/deadspace loot. Thanks 3rd in a row now. Almost no info available about this site btw. Its exploration bro. Grow a set and accept that you're EXPLORING and you might come across some UNKNOWN things (haha see what I did there? Its funny cause complexes have the signature type "unknown" Haha get it?). But really, go back to missions.
Alyssa Yotosala School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 32	Posted - 2011.11.23 22:42:00 - [19] - Quote I have been doing exploration for a while now, and from my experience in doing 4/10's, I can tell you that it is indeed quite random, but not perfectly so. I have just recently done my 30th 4/10, and while overall it has been extremely profitable, you will find that there are times when you will get a crap drop many times in a row. My last encounter of this was 11 4/10's in a row dropping nothing of real value at all. Then a day later, I make over half a billion in a few hours in faction loot. I dont think that the so-called RNG gives you "perfectly random" ( mathematically speaking ) drops, but the drops definitely are chance based. Just keep at it, some days are a waste of time, others make you hundreds of millions a pop.
Emperor Salazar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 185	Posted - 2011.11.23 22:49:00 - [20] - Quote Alyssa Yotosala wrote: I have been doing exploration for a while now, and from my experience in doing 4/10's, I can tell you that it is indeed quite random, but not perfectly so. I have just recently done my 30th 4/10, and while overall it has been extremely profitable, you will find that there are times when you will get a crap drop many times in a row. My last encounter of this was 11 4/10's in a row dropping nothing of real value at all. Then a day later, I make over half a billion in a few hours in faction loot. I dont think that the so-called RNG gives you "perfectly random" ( mathematically speaking ) drops, but the drops definitely are chance based. Just keep at it, some days are a waste of time, others make you hundreds of millions a pop. What people fail to take into account is that the sites' drop chances are not isolated for each individual player. This is true in invention as well. The overall drop rate, that is all players running the site, is likely very close to what it should be. But individually, it is highly likely and something I know I have experienced, that streaks will occur. These streaks even out over time though and if you were to pool data from every player running the site, I'm willing to bet the results would concur.
Veronica Kerrigan Hand Of Midas F0RCEFUL ENTRY 6	Posted - 2011.11.25 02:00:00 - [21] - Quote RNG is a *****, ain't it?
Kaptain Kruncher Gemini Technologies Fortis Malleus 4	Posted - 2011.11.26 12:26:00 - [22] - Quote I did two Blood 5/10's back to back the other day- one jackpot and the other one OPE only. You never know. That is what has kept me exploring for three years straight. If you want predictable results and a set income, stick with missions. Now that I think about it, there are two predictable results in eve- One you get by flying missions and One you get by flying a Hulk during Hulkageddon.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 219	Posted - 2011.11.27 18:07:00 - [23] - Quote i guess ive been really lucky running plexes. ive never NOT had deadspace/faction loot drop. be it 6/10 or 8/10, or non-DED combat plex. thats just really bad luck

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