Waiting on NightmareX and Lucas kell to just get a room and be done with it.

Its turning into a brother sister kind of fight, he said she said, I'll let you two decide who's the girl.

Only way to prove anything is to fight. Talking big on a forum about dunking us (POH) without proof of doing so makes you look like NightmareX defending non-relevent rebirth in a non-rebirth thread. Aka stupid.

Saeger wins this one.

Your still off topic.

And not answering my question.

No one cares about your banter fight with kell about rebirth. Just cause you fall into his trap everytime on every thread. Your so defensive I applaud kell for his tear extraction.

But as a merc pilot posting about your old corp/alliance instead of defending your current on a thread bashing your current makes you seem like an absolute idiot.

Do us all a favor post on topic or don't post at all.

Pretty simple to be honest.

When wars are listed, they are listed under the alliance. The 2 lists I showed were all war data for Rebirth. on their own between 2012 and now (which was only a few) and the god squad in 2012 (which is when he stated the disbands occurred). In both of those sets of data, the only wars I listed with kills are wars where the enemy is now disbanded, so the total kills for the god squad I showed were 166* (so 166* kills against corps that no longer exist).

With me so far? Good. OK, so then look at the god squad war link for example. That in fact shows around 1400 kills (a far cry from 120), which is only kills which occurred under wardecs. They also roamed lowsec and null however and jumped in on null kills, etc. Those kills weren't under a war, so wont list on the war page. But since he's claiming they disbanded 20 corps/alliances though their empire merc work, those types of kills are irrelevant anyway.

Now the link that he provided, that was all kills AFTER the god squad, so from the end of 2012, though to now, while they were in whores in space, devils warrior, etc. Since he claims that all of the disbands happened as rebirth in 2012 and before, there was no point breaking down the kills of the alliances they were in in 2013.

So tl;dr, his point is weak because he's providing a link to kills that happened after the mass disbanding he claims to have created, and not filtering out non-merc kills. At the end of the day, it's clearly a made up chestbeating claim and anyone with a couple of braincells to rub together can see that. Rebirth were always pretty pathetic, so the idea that they forced any corporations that weren't 1 man alt corps to disband is utterly laughable.


*Around 166. I can't be bothered to go back and add it up.

Yes, I do. The 1400 kills is only during the time period Mar 2012 through Sep 2012, which even on his link only shows as 2,919. If you look at the god squad all kills between those 2 dates, you'll see a lot of roaming kills which wouldn't show on wars, so yes, It's completely realistic that half of those kills would be non-war. It's also completely understandable why comparing all of their data from all time to a 7 month period would show a stark difference.

Note that around half of those 18000 kills happened AFTER he claims that corps disbanded due to them.

I think he means that Rebirth was active and solo up until then. After that time they were part of other alliances, at which point they couldn't claim to be responsible for everything, as they were now in well established merc alliances.

Well I don't know how I can make it clearer to understand. CCP release war data on CREST. It's their API system, and it has the same data you will see if clicking through the war window in game, so from 2012, the kill numbers are accurate. Go ahead and click through each and every war if you want.

He's claiming rebirth disbanded corps with him there, meaning that at some point into 2012, at least some corps should have disbanded as a result of their wars. Yet from the official figures, none have. Only 1 corp disbanded within a month of a wardec from them, and the war only produced 2 kills, so it's unlikely they were the reason. He can't actually produce any evidence himself that any corps did disband, so his only response is to try to claim that CCPs CREST endpoint is providing false figures.

Shut up about crappy rebirth already, god squad is nothing now and was nothing then, get on topic NightmareX.

Thought you quit, guess your lying about taking the game seriously.

And this isn't a marmite issue, its a merc combination issue, the fleet that was present for the fight didn't adapt fast enough.

We mercs have worked in rivalry too long, now see what happens when we work together.

There's a point to be made with my original post

Trolololol.

That is truly getting dunked.

You get a +1 from me.