So lead on with your proof of all of this. You know, like you "steamrolling" empire, which I might add included Marmite and many of the other merc corps that exist today. Did you steamroll all of them too? We'll ask them. Hey, you other mercs and while we're here, all highsec PvPers. Do you all remember being steamrolled by afterbirth?

Uhh, no, I legitimately did not see a point to answer. Perhaps your could rephrase the point you wish me to answer here, and I'll give it a go.

Page 9 and no round 2? All of you quit posturing, get in ships, undock and fight.

I get 3 pages as the adrenaline seaps out, but at this point a select few of you are turning a wonderful engagement into garbage. Pew pew and fun was had. Please shut it until round 2 results are in.

Let me just quote you on this that you just said:

So those we was fighting in empire is suddenly everyone in empire?

We had steamrolled everyone with fighting power in empire

Yeah through all of the years we was active yeah. But that's not the point. The point is still that many of those we was fighting gave up on fighting us because they had no ways of winning against us. So surrendering to not fight us is not dispanding a corp or alliance incase you still haven't figured this out yet.

Seriously! Lucas I know this is a sandbox game but you really need to dig your head out of the sand once in a while.

So is that a no, you aren't going to let me know what these "points" are?

It's a simple question bro, and in no way a trick. If you wanted something answered, I didn't see it and it certainly had no question marks, but by all means let me know what it was and I'll answer it.

Lucas Kell is just butthurt that a seriously bad, horrible and ****** alliance like Marmite is better than his alliance.

OK, so where in that did i say "everyone disbanded"? I highlighted the word you seem to have missed.

So you claimed to have beaten everyone in empire, and disbanded "alot" of them. Is that not true? Is that not what you claimed?

Prove it.
Prove that you "steamrolled everyone with fighting power in empire". Prove that "Alot of alliances / corps in empire have dispanded because of Rebirth.". Prove that "Rebirth went inactive because no one wanted to fight us.".

You can't You're trying to go back on what you've previously stated because you know you were making it up. Your claims would mean that you beat every single empire merc and every single empire PvP corporation and alliance, to the point that not a single group would still fight you. It's total and utter bollocks.

I asked you to show or explain your personal experience of the subject that formulated your opinion, ie: High sec pvp.

Again, your reading skills are horrible.

Again, your reading skills are worser than a 3 year old kid.

Pointless arguing is pointless.

Lets dance!

Pointless arguing is pointless.

Lets dance!

Yup, i'm all waiting for round 2 which i believe will be pretty epic. My new ship is already built and are ready for action.

Lucas Kell is just butthurt that a seriously bad, horrible and ****** alliance like Marmite is better than his alliance.

You said most that's not even remotely correct. I said we managed to dispand some few corps and alliances through the years we was fighting in empire. 'Some' is not most.

Again, your reading skills are worser than a 3 year old kid. I said we steamrolled and made most of those WE was fighting (and those we was fighting is far from being most in empire) to stop fighting us. Where in the line of 'those we was fighting at that time' is that you don't understand?

Or maybe should you prove it that we didn't do that as it's you that claims we didn't. I say we did it because i was part of Rebirth when we did manage to dispand some corps and alliances. You are just to freaking scared to figure out yourself that i'm right about what i'm saying because you would be to embarrassed to prove your self that you are wrong.

Not only that, but i have peoples here that can confirm what i'm saying here while you have your own inflated opinion about what happened. Not hard to figure out who are right here.

No less then last night where we defended (repped) the pocos they put into reinforcement, we chased a marmite fleet back to uedema, they had a bigger fleet with way bigger ships then us and yet they didnt fight us, they have surely had a chance for round 2 without taking it :)

Oh I see. Well most of my highsec PvP is done on spies, so not really much to show without burning alts. I've been on marmite fleets though :D

But no, overall I probably don't have the wealth of experience in highsec PvP that someone like yourself has, but then does that make my opinion worth any less? I'm not a chef either, but I can tell if I go to a restaurant and the meal is ****.

Ok, as for the dancing and then for the question in that gif when it's about the fight against you: http://i.imgur.com/pvN0G.gif

LOL, you didn't say "some" or "a few" though, did you? You said "alot". Perhaps "most" was a slight exaggeration, but it certainly isn't like you claiming you disbanded a couple then me claiming you said "all", so don;t even try that ****.

I tell you what, how many alliances and corps would you say you forced to disband? Give a definitive answer here, and we'll use that going forward.

No, that's not at ALL what you said. Read the quote which is your words exactly:
"We had steamrolled everyone with fighting power in empire"

Those are your words.

So we're back to this. You make outrageous claims, and then demand that I prove you wrong, something which you know is basically impossible. That's like saying "I went to the moon once. Prove that I didn't!". The onus is on your to prove it because it your made up claims.

So my point is, Talking a good game and actually playing it well is very different and in that context experience when it comes to opinions matter a lot.

An example of an opinion is that a month old char has an opinion that he can take down a Titan with a rifter but has no experience of Titans or null sec. Would you believe that opinion?

Overall though, I don't claim to know everything about highsec PvP, but I certainly have enough experience of empire combat and EVE in general to know what I'm talking about and know when people are talking ****. I don't claim that Marmite are the worst at everything, they just aren't the elite PvPers that some of you claim to be, at least not in the traditional sense of the term. You have a particular way you (as a group) choose to fight (most of the time, not necessarily all of it) which suits your playstyle, and that's fine.

NightmareX though talks out of his ass, constantly, and in doing so creates a reaction which reflects badly on your whole group. How can you really expect people to talk straight with you guys when you've got an ex-afterbirth member claiming to have "steamrolled everyone with fighting power in empire", and when the goto move when speaking with some of your members is chestbeating and smacktalking?

Watch the Techno-Viking video I posted. It will make you all happy and less prone to arguments.

Don't make me ask him to step in here!

i think we have dispanded around 20 corps / alliances in total through our active times in empire. Most dispands are from single corps. And that's why i say we managed to dispand some few corps and alliances through the years.

And where in those words are steamrolling the same as dispanding?

Yes, fighting most of the PVP forces in empire isn't really hard as it's not really alot of those forces in empire. Or in players in total that way. Ofc there are more PVP forces in empire today than it was back in 2012.

My claims is true as i'm speaking after experiencing it my self in Rebirth. You speaks on behalf of you opinions or on your guesses. I was in Rebirth and i got the t-shirt. Was there anything more you was wondering about?

I did however said that Rebirth as a corp was elite at doing empire PVP back when it was active. This is something you think that still exists today in Marmite just because there are some ex-Rebirth members here. Ex-Rebirth members joined Marmite earlier and things have been improved since then, so it's just good that we are here in Marmite.

No i don't. I speaks with fully experience being in Rebirth and after seing what kind of effect our wars in empire had. You haven't and you haven't even been in Rebirth or don't even know how effective we was by doing empire wars.

I speaks out of experiences while you speaks out of your guesses / opinions about Rebirth. That's the differences here and that's what makes the conversation with you waste of time.

TLDR: Marmite actually dunked this guy and now he's upset about it, trying to hurt their image by linking a fight that is not at all embarassing.

Over 100 RvB members in a fleet against a rag-tag group of random mercenary corps. Result is 70 kills for RvB vs 51 kills for the Mercs.

If this is your idea of dunked, OP, you need to get your head examined.