|  Drizit
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.07.11 07:03:00 -
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  Originally by: SonOfAGhost A lot of players really don't want to mine, even amongst the ones that do, they feel they have to in order to support their corp. The people that aren't already mining aren't going to start just because there's a shortage.
 
 
 I beg to differ there. I have been a miner since the day I started playing this game. Many I have spoken to don't want to mine because most of the high end ores are gone within hours of the respawn. Since they only respawn twice a week now, it often means low end ore or nothing. Even if you find high end ore, it's been such a short time since it was mined out last that the roids are mere pebbles with virtually no real yield. Many that would mine now look for other ways to make isk instead.
 
 Remove the macros and most of that problem will be gone. high end ore will be more abundant and the legitimate players will look more to mining as a profession. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong in mining Veldspar and most wouldn't have a problem with doing so as long as there is enough higher end ores to compensate for the low income of Trianium alone.
 
 To give an idea of how little high end ore there is, I can strip 4 belts of every ounce of Pyrox and still not even have half of what I need to build a Raven. I ran the last lot of Macro miners out of my home system the day after petitioning them by force. They have not been back since. However, the belts have still not recovered from the overmining and there's still not enough high end ore to keep me going and I play solo. There used to be another corp who shared the reaources and, between us, we used to manage the belts so that there was always enough. Since the macro miners came in, the belts have hardly enough ore to sustain just me and the other corp finally disbanded and moved on due to lack of resources. So it's not just the ore in the belts that's affected by macro miners.
 
 Infinity Ziona: If they are mining in an Apoc, they are definitely not AFK and I very much doubt they would be doing it without jetcans. It takes a lot of micromanagement to mine with 6 or more M2 lasers and only a 650 m3 hold. Trust me, I know and learned my lesson the hard way. Even with the hold expanded to the max, you are only looking at 3 minutes tops before it's full. Try it sometime and consider that I was running two accounts on a dual monitor and hauling with the other account as well. I lost so much ore because of overfills while I was dealing with the hauler account that it was embarrasing. I actually mined twice what I eventually hauled back to base but lost half trying to do 20 things at once.
 
 I now use a Retriever and currently training for a Covetor because the 3 minute cycle time allows me to deal with the hauler and also rats when they turn up.
 
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