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Nate D
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Posted - 2006.07.11 07:29:00 -
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Edited by: Nate D on 11/07/2006 07:29:25
With respect to you all, I've always admired your work as an alliance. I just don't understand why NFC got the short end of the stick. Before IRON and FLA went to war with NFC we sent people down to help in your war with the goonies... We would have continued to field people to help you if we had not been drawn back to dek. What have IRON done in recent history to gain your support? FLA? Why hurt the allies that actually try to help you out?
Just wondering,
-Nate D
EDIT: Not that it matters anymore.
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Anita Haircut
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Posted - 2006.07.11 07:52:00 -
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Edited by: Anita Haircut on 11/07/2006 07:52:06
That's how D2D operates. They'll set you plus until you are no longer of use to them, then set you minus and "sick" the rest of their "still +" minions on you. Once they realize Sparta's leadership is secretly anti-D2 then they'll do the same to them.
This should serve as a warning to all the D2D minion corps in Venal and minion alliances in Tribute and Vale. They'll swoop in pretending to be the nice guys, cap-ship enemy POSes to death, then allow you to setup your POSes once they leave and you will be their standings biatch until it no longer serves them.
If there ever was a time to rethink your plus standings to D2D, now is the time.
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MacDuncan
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Posted - 2006.07.11 08:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Anita Haircut
Edited by: Anita Haircut on 11/07/2006 07:58:04
That's how D2D operates. They'll set you plus until you are no longer of use to them, then set you minus and "sick" the rest of their "still +" minions on you. Once they realize Sparta's leadership is secretly anti-D2 then they'll do the same to them.
This should serve as a warning to all the D2D minion corps in Venal and minion alliances in Tribute and Vale. They'll swoop in pretending to be the nice guys, cap-ship enemy POSes to death, then allow you to setup your POSes once they leave and you will be their standings biatch until it no longer serves them.
If there ever was a time to rethink your plus standings to D2D, now is the time.
PS: And don't be mistaken. BoB will do the same thing, they have in the past. The only difference is that BoB can do it and survive without a massive cadre of plus corps/alliances to help them while D2D cannot.
Simply BS...stupid alt
@opener:
Maybe you should contact your alliance leadership 1st before bringing it to the forums!
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.07.11 08:16:00 -
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Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 11/07/2006 08:16:32
We got a video where NFC guys make Cynofields for Goonswarm Carriers who then deployed Pos'es in Fade.
Thats enuff.
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Buddrow
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Posted - 2006.07.11 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Nate D
Edited by: Nate D on 11/07/2006 07:29:25
With respect to you all, I've always admired your work as an alliance. I just don't understand why NFC got the short end of the stick. Before IRON and FLA went to war with NFC we sent people down to help in your war with the goonies... We would have continued to field people to help you if we had not been drawn back to dek. What have IRON done in recent history to gain your support? FLA? Why hurt the allies that actually try to help you out?
Just wondering,
-Nate D
EDIT: Not that it matters anymore.
first off
one of your main fleet commanders was cynoing for a LONG TIME like multiple runs, thats how the fraps was caught btw the cyno was up for a long time and was investigated, it wasn a conspiracy, in my views it was a stupid move by NFC to gain favor with goons and hopefully have them come help you.
as for d2 they did what they had to do. you help the person assulting your territory you go -10 its simple. and IRON has done more for the leading corps of d2 than you will ever know or be able to see.
as for sparta... my guess is that they get a big greedy and it will lead to a well an awakening. you all think IRON has some grand plan to undermine you and destroy you. what you don't realize IRON was founded on the basis of war. its what we do and what we live for. you just keep creating oppertunities for us to have a good time.
and as for bob, bob do not bow to anyone and they surely do not need to use corps or small alliances for anything, they have friends as leaders in those alliances and ties flourish from thier, thats prolly the way i can put it. most of nfc are just new too 0.0 and don't realize everything is simple. what you can take is yours, and words get you no where but dead.
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Nate D
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Posted - 2006.07.11 08:18:00 -
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Edited by: Nate D on 11/07/2006 08:19:31
@alt... *sigh* This is not an anti-D2 post... post elsewhere.
@MacDuncan
What leadership?
Edit: So it was after the 1trav1 cyno crap?
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.07.11 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Anita Haircut
Edited by: Anita Haircut on 11/07/2006 07:58:04
That's how D2D operates. They'll set you plus until you are no longer of use to them, then set you minus and "sick" the rest of their "still +" minions on you. Once they realize Sparta's leadership is secretly anti-D2 then they'll do the same to them.
This should serve as a warning to all the D2D minion corps in Venal and minion alliances in Tribute and Vale. They'll swoop in pretending to be the nice guys, cap-ship enemy POSes to death, then allow you to setup your POSes once they leave and you will be their standings biatch until it no longer serves them.
If there ever was a time to rethink your plus standings to D2D, now is the time.
PS: And don't be mistaken. BoB will do the same thing, they have in the past. The only difference is that BoB can do it and survive without a massive cadre of plus corps/alliances to help them while D2D cannot.
Is today again the day of totally idiotic alts?
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Nate D
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Posted - 2006.07.11 08:22:00 -
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Edited by: Nate D on 11/07/2006 08:23:18
Buddrow dude... chill man... sorry I'm not NFC CRAZY no conspiracy theories on my plate... no IRON is the ultimate evil... I'm my own person man... anyways... thank you all for answering my question... although I knew the answer it seemed like my series of events was a little mixed up.
-Nate
Edit: spelling
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Assassin 2
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Posted - 2006.07.11 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Buddrow
Originally by: Nate D
Edited by: Nate D on 11/07/2006 07:29:25
With respect to you all, I've always admired your work as an alliance. I just don't understand why NFC got the short end of the stick. Before IRON and FLA went to war with NFC we sent people down to help in your war with the goonies... We would have continued to field people to help you if we had not been drawn back to dek. What have IRON done in recent history to gain your support? FLA? Why hurt the allies that actually try to help you out?
Just wondering,
-Nate D
EDIT: Not that it matters anymore.
first off
one of your main fleet commanders was cynoing for a LONG TIME like multiple runs, thats how the fraps was caught btw the cyno was up for a long time and was investigated, it wasn a conspiracy, in my views it was a stupid move by NFC to gain favor with goons and hopefully have them come help you.
as for d2 they did what they had to do. you help the person assulting your territory you go -10 its simple. and IRON has done more for the leading corps of d2 than you will ever know or be able to see.
as for sparta... my guess is that they get a big greedy and it will lead to a well an awakening. you all think IRON has some grand plan to undermine you and destroy you. what you don't realize IRON was founded on the basis of war. its what we do and what we live for. you just keep creating oppertunities for us to have a good time.
and as for bob, bob do not bow to anyone and they surely do not need to use corps or small alliances for anything, they have friends as leaders in those alliances and ties flourish from thier, thats prolly the way i can put it. most of nfc are just new too 0.0 and don't realize everything is simple. what you can take is yours, and words get you no where but dead.
WRONG AGAIN! Your all miners who blob, and managed to learn a few fleet movements. lol its really amusing you claim to be formed on the basis of war, if you were formed on the basis of war, your alliance would have been getting its asses handed to you from the start, instead you didnt because you hid behind G and didnt have to fight. So you just mined.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.07.11 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Assassin 2
Originally by: Buddrow
Originally by: Nate D
Edited by: Nate D on 11/07/2006 07:29:25
With respect to you all, I've always admired your work as an alliance. I just don't understand why NFC got the short end of the stick. Before IRON and FLA went to war with NFC we sent people down to help in your war with the goonies... We would have continued to field people to help you if we had not been drawn back to dek. What have IRON done in recent history to gain your support? FLA? Why hurt the allies that actually try to help you out?
Just wondering,
-Nate D
EDIT: Not that it matters anymore.
first off
one of your main fleet commanders was cynoing for a LONG TIME like multiple runs, thats how the fraps was caught btw the cyno was up for a long time and was investigated, it wasn a conspiracy, in my views it was a stupid move by NFC to gain favor with goons and hopefully have them come help you.
as for d2 they did what they had to do. you help the person assulting your territory you go -10 its simple. and IRON has done more for the leading corps of d2 than you will ever know or be able to see.
as for sparta... my guess is that they get a big greedy and it will lead to a well an awakening. you all think IRON has some grand plan to undermine you and destroy you. what you don't realize IRON was founded on the basis of war. its what we do and what we live for. you just keep creating oppertunities for us to have a good time.
and as for bob, bob do not bow to anyone and they surely do not need to use corps or small alliances for anything, they have friends as leaders in those alliances and ties flourish from thier, thats prolly the way i can put it. most of nfc are just new too 0.0 and don't realize everything is simple. what you can take is yours, and words get you no where but dead.
WRONG AGAIN! Your all miners who blob, and managed to learn a few fleet movements. lol its really amusing you claim to be formed on the basis of war, if you were formed on the basis of war, your alliance would have been getting its asses handed to you from the start, instead you didnt because you hid behind G and didnt have to fight. So you just mined.
Rofl. What a noob.
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Nate D
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Posted - 2006.07.11 08:29:00 -
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And on an aside, I would like to personally appologize about the 1trav1 thing. I assure you as ex-diplomat of the NFC, no one high up knew. *shrug* again... not that it matters now...
-Nate
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FrioBebe
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Posted - 2006.07.11 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Rofl. What a noob.
You getting grumpy on your old days mate? :)
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Shimpu
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Posted - 2006.07.11 09:24:00 -
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All those alts trying to manipulate people. It makes me angry 
Originally by: Seleene
This is what happens when you eat the red M&M's
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Shimpu
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Posted - 2006.07.11 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Anita Haircut
Edited by: Anita Haircut on 11/07/2006 07:58:04
That's how D2D operates. They'll set you plus until you are no longer of use to them, then set you minus and "sick" the rest of their "still +" minions on you. Once they realize Sparta's leadership is secretly anti-D2 then they'll do the same to them.
This should serve as a warning to all the D2D minion corps in Venal and minion alliances in Tribute and Vale. They'll swoop in pretending to be the nice guys, cap-ship enemy POSes to death, then allow you to setup your POSes once they leave and you will be their standings biatch until it no longer serves them.
If there ever was a time to rethink your plus standings to D2D, now is the time.
PS: And don't be mistaken. BoB will do the same thing, they have in the past. The only difference is that BoB can do it and survive without a massive cadre of plus corps/alliances to help them while D2D cannot.
What a utter pile of bull****! Alt posts like yours really want me to have a banstick & alt-bleach
Originally by: Seleene
This is what happens when you eat the red M&M's
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arjun
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Posted - 2006.07.11 09:56:00 -
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well buddrow atm you destabilise deklein anbd that helps our enemies. using d2 stations as a launch platform for your dreads to atack another d2 friendly alliance isnt the intended use of those stations imo.
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2006.07.11 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
What a noob.
WOODYS BACK <ticker tape>
Show them the veldspar Nublouse!
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Emno
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Posted - 2006.07.11 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: arjun
well buddrow atm you destabilise deklein anbd that helps our enemies. using d2 stations as a launch platform for your dreads to atack another d2 friendly alliance isnt the intended use of those stations imo.
deklein was stable? heh
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Piefke
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Posted - 2006.07.11 10:17:00 -
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Quote:
@opener:
Maybe you should contact your alliance leadership 1st before bringing it to the forums!
there is no NFC anymore, sad but true   
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Skogul
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Posted - 2006.07.11 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Assassin 2
Originally by: Buddrow
Originally by: Nate D
Edited by: Nate D on 11/07/2006 07:29:25
With respect to you all, I've always admired your work as an alliance. I just don't understand why NFC got the short end of the stick. Before IRON and FLA went to war with NFC we sent people down to help in your war with the goonies... We would have continued to field people to help you if we had not been drawn back to dek. What have IRON done in recent history to gain your support? FLA? Why hurt the allies that actually try to help you out?
Just wondering,
-Nate D
EDIT: Not that it matters anymore.
first off
one of your main fleet commanders was cynoing for a LONG TIME like multiple runs, thats how the fraps was caught btw the cyno was up for a long time and was investigated, it wasn a conspiracy, in my views it was a stupid move by NFC to gain favor with goons and hopefully have them come help you.
as for d2 they did what they had to do. you help the person assulting your territory you go -10 its simple. and IRON has done more for the leading corps of d2 than you will ever know or be able to see.
as for sparta... my guess is that they get a big greedy and it will lead to a well an awakening. you all think IRON has some grand plan to undermine you and destroy you. what you don't realize IRON was founded on the basis of war. its what we do and what we live for. you just keep creating oppertunities for us to have a good time.
and as for bob, bob do not bow to anyone and they surely do not need to use corps or small alliances for anything, they have friends as leaders in those alliances and ties flourish from thier, thats prolly the way i can put it. most of nfc are just new too 0.0 and don't realize everything is simple. what you can take is yours, and words get you no where but dead.
WRONG AGAIN! Your all miners who blob, and managed to learn a few fleet movements. lol its really amusing you claim to be formed on the basis of war, if you were formed on the basis of war, your alliance would have been getting its asses handed to you from the start, instead you didnt because you hid behind G and didnt have to fight. So you just mined.
Assassin 2, eh, the man who once cried on these very same forums for positive standings to Iron and other Northern entities.
Do us all a favour and keep your nose out of stuff that doesnt concern you.
Regards
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SkankinRed
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Posted - 2006.07.11 10:46:00 -
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Edited by: SkankinRed on 11/07/2006 10:49:23
I can say since I have been in the Northern region for about 20 days, I have seen nothing but nubs running around. I would agree that IRON probably was ex miner blobs who learned a few fleet moves. They play the hide and go seek role. Hiding does not take any skills, and will not get you anywhere. The region is full of pathetic nubs who run the momemt 2 BoB or ASCN ships show up.
Of course not every single one of them is a nub, but when 90% of the population is, you are considered one too.
It's really only a matter of time before they all fall. If any real Alliance wanted to take the land by now, it would be over in a matter of days. |
AbyssStalker
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Posted - 2006.07.11 10:48:00 -
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Edited by: AbyssStalker on 11/07/2006 10:49:54
Honestly i don't know anyone in NFC who knew 1trav1 was supporting the goons....
Along with the very poor/ pathetic response fc's got when trying to get a fleet together... i think was the breaking point for most of the corps in NFC... which is why I know of atleast 4 corps that washed their hands of NFC and its dead weight as of yesterday...
the first day was great... I have to give props to pilots on both sides... after that NFC were lucky to get 20 in a gang... for an alliance that had over 1000 members thats pretty sad....
I salute those corps that actually fought for your home in Dek against superior numbers along with the occasional bob gank squad passing through shooting at people on both sides:P
As for the rest who decided to not help defend your home... You DO NOT deserve to live in Dek or any 0.0 space in my opinion.... You know who you are, we know who you are and you will be living in empire soon enough...
Disclaimer: I claim no responsability for my poor typing skills which directly effect my spelling of BIG words... :P
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SkankinRed
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Posted - 2006.07.11 10:55:00 -
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Maybe you shouldn't say they won't be living in 0.0 much longer... They will just go run and hide under the next biggest nub Alliance in the region.
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ph33rf4ct0ry
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Posted - 2006.07.11 10:56:00 -
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"Iron was forged in war" wins the triple crown   
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2006.07.11 10:58:00 -
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WTH is this march of the Alts or something. I sense a new owl coming. WATCH THIS SPACE !
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POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
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AbyssStalker
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Posted - 2006.07.11 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: SkankinRed
Maybe you shouldn't say they won't be living in 0.0 much longer... They will just go run and hide under the next biggest nub Alliance in the region.
LOL yeah your probably right... But as long as their someone elses dead weight i don't care.....
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AbyssStalker
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Posted - 2006.07.11 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
WTH is this march of the Alts or something. I sense a new owl coming. WATCH THIS SPACE !
Ya know i would post with my main and really want to BUT... Corp police say i can't.... I'm not the "Official" Forum guy
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Skogul
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Posted - 2006.07.11 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: SkankinRed
Edited by: SkankinRed on 11/07/2006 10:49:23
The region is full of pathetic nubs who run the momemt 2 BoB or ASCN ships show up.
Now which ones alt are you, my guess is the latter as you have no clue.
Post with your main or STFU
Cheers
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SkankinRed
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Posted - 2006.07.11 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: SkankinRed on 11/07/2006 11:16:09
Originally by: Skogul
Originally by: SkankinRed
Edited by: SkankinRed on 11/07/2006 10:49:23
The region is full of pathetic nubs who run the momemt 2 BoB or ASCN ships show up.
Now which ones alt are you, my guess is the latter as you have no clue.
Post with your main or STFU
Cheers
Sorry but under this account, I AM THE MAIN. Some people can understand things much faster than others. It doesn't take me long to realize how IRON is playing. I was in your alliance.
Regardless, can anyone disagree with me on the fact that they are a hide and seek Alliance? I think not.
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AbyssStalker
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Posted - 2006.07.11 11:34:00 -
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Edited by: AbyssStalker on 11/07/2006 11:39:32
Originally by: Stamm
Originally by: AbyssStalker
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
WTH is this march of the Alts or something. I sense a new owl coming. WATCH THIS SPACE !
Ya know i would post with my main and really want to BUT... Corp police say i can't.... I'm not the "Official" Forum guy
Then don't post. Either that or argue with your corp about it until they let you post. It's your choice to be in that corp.
I don't mind being Anon... The fellas in charge make all the official post... And i'll throw my opinion out there as i see fit :P besides it really doesn't matter who I am... What i say is just my opinion or views on given topics..
Plus being the official mouth for a corp or alliance sucks because your most of the time restricted to what you can say... God forbid someone gets offended..
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.07.11 11:49:00 -
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Erm.. has no one mentioned the historical relationship between D2(G,ER et al) and IRON?
how is that so hard to understand?
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Quillan Rage
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Posted - 2006.07.11 11:50:00 -
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If you genuinely think IRON is a "bunch of noobs" and "safespotters" and "were the G sidekicks" then you probably don't really understand the history, politics or dynamics of the game.
With the exception of perhaps BoB and MC (in fact maybe even including these) you could find some post somewhere on Eve having one alliance smacking the other alliance as the above. You will always get some alt trolling the forums, stirring up trouble with an opinion that is so far from the truth you would give Mohammad Said Sahhaf a run for his money.
For most people, EVE is about playing the game and having in-game fun, for others it is about spamming the forums - mostly people having opinions on alliance politics from their mission running station in Motsu <insert agent system here> as opposed to 0.0
And finally, I think it is worth pointing out that there is a difference between being brave, stupid and clever. Engaing a group twice your size with similar BS/Hacs/Support is not brave, jumping in on them by mistake is stupid and having a scout ahead giving you all this info and suggesting a safespot, alternative direction is clever.
It's not about the winning, it's about the taking part as any average sportsman will tell you! 
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SkankinRed
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Posted - 2006.07.11 12:06:00 -
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Edited by: SkankinRed on 11/07/2006 13:49:20
I agree having fun is the main reason people play games. But taking the easy way out or running from a challenge is retarded.
You may not always win, but you shouldn't run just because you don't have an unfair advantage to win. You should be able to take a loss like a respectable person.
Originally by: Quillan Rage
And finally, I think it is worth pointing out that there is a difference between being brave, stupid and clever. Engaing a group twice your size with similar BS/Hacs/Support is not brave, jumping in on them by mistake is stupid and having a scout ahead giving you all this info and suggesting a safespot, alternative direction is clever.
Sometimes you do need to run. It is pointless to purposely lose your ability take part in the game.
But when this becomes your tactics used in the game, you might as well of not even tried to participate in the first place.
You will never get anywhere always running away. You need to be able to stand up and take a loss, and accept it. By actually playing a part in the games you will gain more in respect and knowledge than running away and saving a few ships.
You need to be able to lose sometimes, in order to win.
By running away/taking the easy way out, you are NOT participating as a good sportsman.
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AbyssStalker
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Posted - 2006.07.11 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: SkankinRed
Edited by: SkankinRed on 11/07/2006 12:06:58
I agree having fun is the main reason people play games. But taking the easy way out or running from a challenge is retarded.
You may not always win, but you shouldn't run just because you don't have an unfair advantage to win. You should be able to take a loss like a respectable person.
Sometimes you do need to run. It is pointless to purposely lose your ability take part in the game.
But when this becomes your tactics used in the game, you might as well of not even tried to participate in the first place.
You will never get anywhere always running away. You need to be able to stand up and take a loss, and accept it. By actually playing a part in the games you will gain more in respect and knowledge than running away and saving a few ships.
You need to be able to lose sometimes, in order to win.
By running away/taking the easy way out, you are NOT participating as a good sportsman.
To me its all about tactics... and every fleet is diffrent...
there is no fair fight... You do what ever you have to do to win... this isn't the civil war days... were not gonna line up and square off on the battle feild...
if you see the need to jump to a ss to save a few ships & regroup then do it..
If your in a small fleet / gang 20 ships strong and Local jumps to 80 mostly hostile... you would be damn stupid not to hide...and jumping head first into a blob isn't being brave or respectable...
Now Pirates on the other hand ..... Gate camping places like EC & ganking every poor soul that happens through...
then running to Empire when a fleet shows up... But hey ! their Pirates :P
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SkankinRed
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Posted - 2006.07.11 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: SkankinRed on 11/07/2006 12:35:57
I think you missed the part about:
"Sometimes you do need to run. It is pointless to purposely lose your ability take part in the game.
But when this becomes your tactics used in the game, you might as well of not even tried to participate in the first place. "
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Nugry7
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Posted - 2006.07.11 13:07:00 -
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SkankinRed are you telling me if you where comanding a fleet of 50 bs and suport and knew there was a fleet of 100bs and suport waiting at the other gate would you risk loosing 25-50 bs????
thats just plain stupid and i hope people dont comand fleet like that for there gang members... and then they loose alot of respect by there gang members,,
(runing) as sayd to a ss is sometimes smart thing to do..
Dont use alts its lame...
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SkankinRed
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Posted - 2006.07.11 13:44:00 -
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Edited by: SkankinRed on 11/07/2006 13:45:25
Originally by: Quillan Rage
You will always get some alt trolling the forums, stirring up trouble with an opinion that is so far from the truth you would give Mohammad Said Sahhaf a run for his money.
You assume that just because someone does something longer than another person that they know more. This shouldn't be treated as a given; although it should usually be reasonable to assume this. But in something like a computer game, this does not apply.
If anything I have said wasn't true, feel free to dispute it. Don't dismiss a valid point because of an ego.
Originally by: Quillan Rage
For most people, EVE is about playing the game and having in-game fun, for others it is about spamming the forums - mostly people having opinions on alliance politics from their mission running station in Motsu <insert agent system here> as opposed to 0.0
Again the same thing as above...
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SkankinRed
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Posted - 2006.07.11 13:47:00 -
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Edited by: SkankinRed on 11/07/2006 13:47:44
Originally by: Nugry7
SkankinRed are you telling me if you where comanding a fleet of 50 bs and suport and knew there was a fleet of 100bs and suport waiting at the other gate would you risk loosing 25-50 bs????
thats just plain stupid and i hope people dont comand fleet like that for there gang members... and then they loose alot of respect by there gang members,,
(runing) as sayd to a ss is sometimes smart thing to do..
Dont use alts its lame...
Somehow you again missed the same thing posted right above your response. I never said that you have to lose all the time.
I am NOT an alt, this is my main for this account.
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Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2006.07.11 13:52:00 -
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Don't you just love it when alts or "mains for this account" start lecturing bona fide vets on strats & tactics. GG. 
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SkankinRed
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Posted - 2006.07.11 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Razor Jaxx
Don't you just love it when alts or "mains for this account" start lecturing bona fide vets on strats & tactics. GG.
Another person dismssing a valid point because they have ago.
If you consider a vets tactic of running away, and hiding everytime you don't have an unfair advantage a respectable tactic, that it just sad.
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Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2006.07.11 14:32:00 -
[40]
Originally by: SkankinRed
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
Don't you just love it when alts or "mains for this account" start lecturing bona fide vets on strats & tactics. GG.
Another person dismssing a valid point because they have ago.
If you consider a vets tactic of running away, and hiding everytime you don't have an unfair advantage a respectable tactic, that it just sad.
What "valid point" exactly? For all I know, this verbal diarrhea of yours comes from your typical armchair FC.
Ego my arse. You can check up on me, I've been in fights where I had an unfair advantage, and in fights where I was vastly outnumbered. I've been on the losing end to the point where I stopped counting, and I've been on the winning end even more than that. I've had stupid losses, and exciting kills. What about you, mister "main for this account"? Where does your credibility lies in this discussion? What makes you an expert? Why should we even argue with you? That's my point.
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ph33rf4ct0ry
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Posted - 2006.07.11 14:37:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
Originally by: SkankinRed
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
Don't you just love it when alts or "mains for this account" start lecturing bona fide vets on strats & tactics. GG.
Another person dismssing a valid point because they have ago.
If you consider a vets tactic of running away, and hiding everytime you don't have an unfair advantage a respectable tactic, that it just sad.
What "valid point" exactly? For all I know, this verbal diarrhea of yours comes from your typical armchair FC.
Ego my arse. You can check up on me, I've been in fights where I had an unfair advantage, and in fights where I was vastly outnumbered. I've been on the losing end to the point where I stopped counting, and I've been on the winning end even more than that. I've had stupid losses, and exciting kills. What about you, mister "main for this account"? Where does your credibility lies in this discussion? What makes you an expert? Why should we even argue with you? That's my point.
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SkankinRed
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Posted - 2006.07.11 14:37:00 -
[42]
Edited by: SkankinRed on 11/07/2006 14:44:55
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
Originally by: SkankinRed
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
Don't you just love it when alts or "mains for this account" start lecturing bona fide vets on strats & tactics. GG.
Another person dismssing a valid point because they have ago.
If you consider a vets tactic of running away, and hiding everytime you don't have an unfair advantage a respectable tactic, that it just sad.
For all I know, this verbal diarrhea of yours comes from your typical armchair FC.
You assume that just because someone does something longer than another person that they know more. This shouldn't be treated as a given; although it should usually be reasonable to assume this. But in something like a computer game, this does not apply.
If anything I have said wasn't true, feel free to dispute it. Don't dismiss a valid point because of an ego.
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
Ego my arse. You can check up on me, I've been in fights where I had an unfair advantage, and in fights where I was vastly outnumbered. I've been on the losing end to the point where I stopped counting, and I've been on the winning end even more than that. I've had stupid losses, and exciting kills. What about you, mister "main for this account"? Where does your credibility lies in this discussion? What makes you an expert? Why should we even argue with you? That's my point.
I am not questioning your tactics in how you play the game. I am talking about IRON's tactics. Don't get so defensive.
I am talking about your ego thinking that you know more than someone else because you feel you automatically know more since you have been playing a longer amount of time than someone else, rather than how well you can learn in that amount of time.
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
What "valid point" exactly?
I don't know how many different ways I can say this, but Running away, EVERYTIME, unless you have a huge advantage over the other side is not a respectable tactic.
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Moridan
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Posted - 2006.07.11 14:53:00 -
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This whole situation has been a bad joke. Seriously i have a bad taste in my mouth from all this. Dishonesty on both sides. No honor. Smack. Idiots. Turncoats. Backstabbing.
Rather pathetic really.
Most everybody should feel ashamed.
"Speak quietly and carry a big torpedo."
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Imran
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Razor Jaxx
Originally by: SkankinRed
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
Don't you just love it when alts or "mains for this account" start lecturing bona fide vets on strats & tactics. GG.
Another person dismssing a valid point because they have ago.
If you consider a vets tactic of running away, and hiding everytime you don't have an unfair advantage a respectable tactic, that it just sad.
What "valid point" exactly? For all I know, this verbal diarrhea of yours comes from your typical armchair FC.
Ego my arse. You can check up on me, I've been in fights where I had an unfair advantage, and in fights where I was vastly outnumbered. I've been on the losing end to the point where I stopped counting, and I've been on the winning end even more than that. I've had stupid losses, and exciting kills. What about you, mister "main for this account"? Where does your credibility lies in this discussion? What makes you an expert? Why should we even argue with you? That's my point.
RAZAH JAXX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cyrus Khanici
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:42:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Moridan
This whole situation has been a bad joke. Seriously i have a bad taste in my mouth from all this. Dishonesty on both sides. No honor. Smack. Idiots. Turncoats. Backstabbing.
Rather pathetic really.
Most everybody should feel ashamed.
QFT, I lost a flippin' mach for the cause.....oh well
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Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2006.07.11 16:05:00 -
[46]
Originally by: SkankinRed
You assume that just because someone does something longer than another person that they know more. This shouldn't be treated as a given; although it should usually be reasonable to assume this. But in something like a computer game, this does not apply.
If anything I have said wasn't true, feel free to dispute it. Don't dismiss a valid point because of an ego.
I am not questioning your tactics in how you play the game. I am talking about IRON's tactics. Don't get so defensive.
I am talking about your ego thinking that you know more than someone else because you feel you automatically know more since you have been playing a longer amount of time than someone else, rather than how well you can learn in that amount of time.
Again you missed the point. I didn't put forward my experience for justification or self-aggrandizement, but to make the point that I had indeed been through a lot of various combat situations, and thus believe myself to be a qualified participant on matters tactical. According to your character's age and experience, this is precisely what you utterly lack, and what makes your input negligible quantity.
Now, maybe you play another character who's a total pvp badass, and master tactician. Prove it to me and I'll graciously bow out, I can admit defeat (ego, anyone?). Yes, you can consider this a challenge, will you RUN AWAY from it?
Originally by: SkankinRed
I don't know how many different ways I can say this, but Running away, EVERYTIME, unless you have a huge advantage over the other side is not a respectable tactic.
Since this appears to be the brunt of your argument, and since you stress the word "everytime", would you please show me where in this thread is it quoted that IRON will systematically shy away from a challenging engagement? Having flown with, as well as against IRON, I can safely state this is a complete fallacy.
PS : Sorry for hi-jacking this thread.
On the original issue - NFC indeed showed up on numerous occasions to back up D2 forces, so I can understand the OP's (and others') ill feelings. However, assisting the Goons in an assault on Fade while being aware of the situation in Cloud Ring amounts to a clear act of war, regardless of events leading up to that point. Hence the inevitable -10.
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Ripp Tyde
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Posted - 2006.07.11 16:09:00 -
[47]
razor-
will u marry me?
Ripp Tyde
DingleBerry Bear
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Xendie
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Posted - 2006.07.11 16:19:00 -
[48]
Originally by: AbyssStalker
Ya know i would post with my main and really want to BUT... Corp police say i can't.... I'm not the "Official" Forum guy
does the "Corp Police" pay for your account?
Originally by: F'nog
This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.
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Nate D
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Posted - 2006.07.11 17:02:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
PS : Sorry for hi-jacking this thread.
On the original issue - NFC indeed showed up on numerous occasions to back up D2 forces, so I can understand the OP's (and others') ill feelings. However, assisting the Goons in an assault on Fade while being aware of the situation in Cloud Ring amounts to a clear act of war, regardless of events leading up to that point. Hence the inevitable -10.
Thanks lots Razor Jaxx, it's a great answer that comes from both sides of the table.
-Nate D
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Lea Swift
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Posted - 2006.07.11 17:39:00 -
[50]
This chain of events is obviously by design. Don't be so foolish.
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Zimi Vlasic
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Posted - 2006.07.11 17:44:00 -
[51]
Originally by: SkankinRed
Edited by: SkankinRed on 11/07/2006 13:47:44
Originally by: Nugry7
SkankinRed are you telling me if you where comanding a fleet of 50 bs and suport and knew there was a fleet of 100bs and suport waiting at the other gate would you risk loosing 25-50 bs????
thats just plain stupid and i hope people dont comand fleet like that for there gang members... and then they loose alot of respect by there gang members,,
(runing) as sayd to a ss is sometimes smart thing to do..
Dont use alts its lame...
Somehow you again missed the same thing posted right above your response. I never said that you have to lose all the time.
I am NOT an alt, this is my main for this account.
Meaning you have another account, and this is your 2nd AKA ALT account.
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Tonkin
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Posted - 2006.07.11 18:08:00 -
[52]
which system was it where you caught the cynoers
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2006.07.11 19:36:00 -
[53]
Originally by: AbyssStalker
Ya know i would post with my main and really want to BUT... Corp police say i can't.... I'm not the "Official" Forum guy
Either you are lying to try and make an excuse for your altery or you need to kick off the training wheels and join a real corporation, one that doesn't senosr you. One that will just kick you if you make them look bad. That way you can be resposible for your words ad actions and be taken somewhat more seriously.
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2006.07.11 22:12:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Fi T''Zeh on 11/07/2006 22:12:38
From my sekrit photoshop labs, i bring you the owl to end all owls...
I present.... ALT RLY!!!!!!
For woody with lubb.
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POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
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Alberta
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Posted - 2006.07.11 22:17:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Alberta on 11/07/2006 22:18:00
EDIT: I'll let him off cos he fixed it quick. 
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Marko Debreault
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Posted - 2006.07.11 22:19:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
From my sekrit photoshop labs, i bring you the owl to end all owls...
I present.... ALT RLY!!!!!!
For woody with lubb.
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2006.07.11 22:19:00 -
[57]
No it's just you, everyone else can see it
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POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
Real men use blasters |
Zimi Vlasic
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Posted - 2006.07.12 00:13:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Edited by: Fi T''Zeh on 11/07/2006 22:12:38
From my sekrit photoshop labs, i bring you the owl to end all owls...
I present.... ALT RLY!!!!!!
For woody with lubb.
ahahahaha
that's sweet
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Ulynidd
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Posted - 2006.07.12 22:51:00 -
[59]
Thread cleaned, no hi-jacks please 
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Gimil Ilishu
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:45:00 -
[60]
ur just scaerd of teh pwnage |
Maria Cournacovia
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Posted - 2006.07.14 12:38:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Maria Cournacovia on 14/07/2006 12:38:12
nasty man.
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Assassin 2
D00M.
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Posted - 2006.07.14 12:39:00 -
[62]
i asked for standings?. WRONG. i offered good standings to the north G were respectable enough and clever enough to accept them from our corp. IRON cried and tried to set us up to G so that they would set us to -10. Well done you succeeded but from doing that IRON got their asses handed to them daily and G when they tried to get into our way. Yes we took our losses aswell, but sadly for you you cost your pilots billions of isk iron.
Anyhows lets see how you perform in round 2.
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Emno
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 15:14:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Assassin 2
i asked for standings?.
begged tbh
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Cmd Woodlouse
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:48:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Assassin 2
i asked for standings?. WRONG. i offered good standings to the north G were respectable enough and clever enough to accept them from our corp. IRON cried and tried to set us up to G so that they would set us to -10. Well done you succeeded but from doing that IRON got their asses handed to them daily and G when they tried to get into our way. Yes we took our losses aswell, but sadly for you you cost your pilots billions of isk iron.
Anyhows lets see how you perform in round 2.
Yes, you camped EC. Thats it. And IRON didnt beg us to set u to -10, our pilots insisted to d2 and G leadership cause they dont like gatecamping pirates.
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FotoFlame
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:56:00 -
[65]
Edited by: FotoFlame on 14/07/2006 19:57:17
when this wars over i'll come down and give you something to shoot at m8. i can't fly Iterons though so you might want to slip into something with more teeth than an frig.
~Foto
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.07.14 23:29:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Assassin 2
i asked for standings?. WRONG. i offered good standings to the north G were respectable enough and clever enough to accept them from our corp.
Lets be clear with this. You begged and cried to get them. G fell for it. Most of us simply laughed our ass off and sure enough you got back on neg standings soon enough due to your own halfwitted actions. You're like JF but without the writing talent and slightly less pvp skills.
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