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Gulo the Savage State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.08.05 21:28:00 - [1] - Quote Hey guys. This is my second day in EVE and I rather enjoy it. It looks kinda boring to watch on videos but being inside the game is a much different story. That aside, I'm on a 21- day trial and recently completed the tutorial along with a couple of the Career Agent missions. Right now I'm sitting on a few ships from these missions as well as about 3million ISK and if I want to keep playing this game (which I think I will) I'll have to earn my PLEX in-game as opposed to paying for it. I'm a college student and don't really have the money to dish on this game's subscription every month, and I also think it would be fun to strive for. So how am I to make a lot of ISK in this trial period to fund this game?
Damen Apol Dayman Industries 51	Posted - 2014.08.05 21:44:00 - [2] - Quote Most people tend to find that struggling to pay for the game monthly turns the game into a job rather than a game
Paranoid Loyd 1151	Posted - 2014.08.05 21:47:00 - [3] - Quote ^This It wont be much fun, if all of your time is spent grinding. Not saying it cant be done. Just saying it is generally not worth it. The reality is it cost less than a dollar a day to play. Maybe save that dollar you spend on your lunch soda every day. It will be much more satisfying. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 19972	Posted - 2014.08.05 21:47:00 - [4] - Quote Damen Apol wrote: Most people tend to find that struggling to pay for the game monthly turns the game into a job rather than a game Pretty much this, it took me several months before I had a stable enough ingame income to purchase PLEX via the market. After nearly 5 years I still occasionally pay cash for my sub. Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine and into the brain, where they ferment. They then migrate to your keyboard via your fingers. That's where shiptoasts come from. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Schmata Bastanold Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 2463	Posted - 2014.08.05 22:12:00 - [5] - Quote If you can't earn 15 euro during whole month I don't think Eve is your biggest problem. Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
Xuixien The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 1361	Posted - 2014.08.05 22:15:00 - [6] - Quote I used to PLEX my accounts. I stopped when PLEX became too expensive to justify spending the ISK and now I use my credit card instead. It's liberating and I don't know why I didn't do it sooner. Epic Space Cat
J'Poll CDG Playgrounds 4298	Posted - 2014.08.05 22:54:00 - [7] - Quote Gulo the Savage wrote: Hey guys. This is my second day in EVE and I rather enjoy it. It looks kinda boring to watch on videos but being inside the game is a much different story. That aside, I'm on a 21- day trial and recently completed the tutorial along with a couple of the Career Agent missions. Right now I'm sitting on a few ships from these missions as well as about 3million ISK and if I want to keep playing this game (which I think I will) I'll have to earn my PLEX in-game as opposed to paying for it. I'm a college student and don't really have the money to dish on this game's subscription every month, and I also think it would be fun to strive for. So how am I to make a lot of ISK in this trial period to fund this game? Good luck A PLEX is close to or over 800 mil ISK. Get a freaking side job next to college (I'm a student too and can easily afford the sub for the game with a side job just in my holidays (not even talking about working in weekends too). A side job will pay for EVE easier and WAY faster then grinding ISK every month, just so you can repeat it the next month. EDIT: Hell, last year I subbed 3 accounts for 12 months, just from tax return money. Edit part deux: Love how every single reply is basically the same...don't try it, because it is *near* impossible to pull off and it will turn EVE from a game into a bad paying job. Personal channel: *Crazy Dutch Guy* Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road
Paranoid Loyd 1153	Posted - 2014.08.05 23:03:00 - [8] - Quote Xuixien wrote: I used to PLEX my accounts. I stopped when PLEX became too expensive to justify spending the ISK and now I use my credit card instead. It's liberating and I don't know why I didn't do it sooner. Agreed, I always chuckle when my cohorts talk about plexing their accounts. I make plenty to do it but it is quite liberating to not worry about it. Heh, I was doing some finances recently and realized, I pay more for beer while playing eve than I do to actually play eve. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite
Xuixien The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 1362	Posted - 2014.08.05 23:05:00 - [9] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: Xuixien wrote: I used to PLEX my accounts. I stopped when PLEX became too expensive to justify spending the ISK and now I use my credit card instead. It's liberating and I don't know why I didn't do it sooner. Agreed, I always chuckle when my cohorts talk about plexing their accounts. I make plenty to do it but it is quite liberating to not worry about it. PLEX is a monkey on your back. I'm so glad I kicked the habit. Epic Space Cat
Jur Tissant Unreal Darkness 145	Posted - 2014.08.05 23:15:00 - [10] - Quote I wouldn't expect to be PLEXing your account monthly until you're a few months in. I personally manage my PLEX (and some spare change) each month through planetary interaction (PI). I update my colonies once a day on each of my three characters and do some hauling every week or so, and that nets me around 1.4 bil per month. So for me, I have enough ISK income that I don't bore myself to death grinding for my PLEX. Active income methods can be more or less profitable. You might look into faction warfare, gearing up for incursions (this will take some months' training), null sec exploration, and so on. However, some people prefer to pay the $15/mo because it opens more doors for them. How useful your disposable income is depends on your skill level - I haven't been around long enough to be flying around carriers and jump freighters, much less have a use for them, so I'm fine putting half of my income per month into my PLEX. Schmata Bastanold wrote: If you can't earn 15 euro during whole month I don't think Eve is your biggest problem. but there's nothing wrong with wanting to save money. $15 in my wallet in real life is sometimes worth much more to me than hundreds of millions of ISK.

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie Unleashed Pestilence 917	Posted - 2014.08.05 23:41:00 - [11] - Quote Sheesh, people are so negative! Unfortunately they're mostly right. You can make the isk require to plex an account, but in the first few months it will be exceedingly difficult especially with prices rising like they are. Trading is probably the only pheasible way of plexing an account soon after starting, but without seed money it will be very difficult to get started. My recommendation is to purchase a few months of game time to give yourself a buffer before you have to start plexing. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á
Sabriz Adoudel Mission BLITZ 3341	Posted - 2014.08.06 00:38:00 - [12] - Quote Trading is possible, but like the others I strongly recommend paying cash out of your entertainment budget. It is possible to acquire a PLEX within 14 days of starting but it is not even close to fun. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos
Yang Aurilen The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 295	Posted - 2014.08.06 00:43:00 - [13] - Quote Jur Tissant wrote: I wouldn't expect to be PLEXing your account monthly until you're a few months in. I personally manage my PLEX (and some spare change) each month through planetary interaction (PI). I update my colonies once a day on each of my three characters and do some hauling every week or so, and that nets me around 1.4 bil per month. So for me, I have enough ISK income that I don't bore myself to death grinding for my PLEX. Active income methods can be more or less profitable. You might look into faction warfare, gearing up for incursions (this will take some months' training), null sec exploration, and so on. However, some people prefer to pay the $15/mo because it opens more doors for them. How useful your disposable income is depends on your skill level - I haven't been around long enough to be flying around carriers and jump freighters, much less have a use for them, so I'm fine putting half of my income per month into my PLEX. Schmata Bastanold wrote: If you can't earn 15 euro during whole month I don't think Eve is your biggest problem. but there's nothing wrong with wanting to save money. $15 in my wallet in real life is sometimes worth much more to me than hundreds of millions of ISK. Unless you value your time you can try and play EVE like a 23/7 ISK grind to keep on playing. Take note time is money and if you just play the game to grind for ISK so you can continue to play the game to grind in more ISK your time must not be really worth alot. I honestly just fork over the sub money and play EVE when I have the time and NEVER worry about my ISK/hr or my sub running out because I ran out of ISK doing whatever I like to do in EVE.
Gulo the Savage State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.08.06 00:44:00 - [14] - Quote I understand that it's generally not worth it to spend ISK on a PLEX, but I'd really rather have that $15 a month for beer or something. I get that, but are there any methods that work quite well for this? I just watched a YouTube video about EveMogul or something where he makes 700k ISK after half a day of trading from a fresh account. I mean I have plenty of free time right now until school, and I'm not far enough into the game yet to know if I'll be sticking with it for the long haul - in the event that I don't I'd rather not have spent $15 for a couple months.
Yang Aurilen The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 295	Posted - 2014.08.06 00:49:00 - [15] - Quote Gulo the Savage wrote: I understand that it's generally not worth it to spend ISK on a PLEX, but I'd really rather have that $15 a month for beer or something. I get that, but are there any methods that work quite well for this? I just watched a YouTube video about EveMogul or something where he makes 700k ISK after half a day of trading from a fresh account. I mean I have plenty of free time right now until school, and I'm not far enough into the game yet to know if I'll be sticking with it for the long haul - in the event that I don't I'd rather not have spent $15 for a couple months. Fastest way to get ISK is to scam them from other players. But tell me this how long will 15 dollars worth of beer will last you compared to 15 dollars so you can play and experiment what you want do in EVE for a month without worrying about your ISK/hr. I used to have the same mindset as you but found the ISK grind mind numbingly boring so I forked over a 3 month sub and 2 plexes to sell and jumped into FW to die alot and have fun.
Paranoid Loyd 1158	Posted - 2014.08.06 00:58:00 - [16] - Quote Gulo the Savage wrote: I'm not far enough into the game yet to know if I'll be sticking with it for the long haul. The exact reason I recommend you dont try to make enough to PLEX, your time will be spent grinding instead of playing and you wont have much isk to actually buy the stuff you want. If you think you can trade your way to success, by all means go ahead but it is a big market that takes most more than a month or two to get a grasp of what works and what doesn't. The scamming route is also viable, but again, it will take time to become successful. Either way you choose to go, seek out mentors that are successful that will give you pointers, as that is the quickest way to learn. There is plenty of info out there but making heads or tails of what info is still good and what is obsolete is why you need to seek mentors. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite
Netan MalDoran xXTheWarhammerXx 64	Posted - 2014.08.06 02:42:00 - [17] - Quote Lets put it this way, you can either grind 100 hours mining, or 33 hours LvL 4 mission grinding giving you 20 cents/hour or 60 cents/hour respectively for boring ingame grinding to get a plex, or you can use those same hours making 9/hour dollar minimal wage at McDonalds and have a plex in 4 hours, choice is yours. "Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
Jur Tissant Unreal Darkness 145	Posted - 2014.08.06 04:11:00 - [18] - Quote Netan MalDoran wrote: Lets put it this way, you can either grind 100 hours mining, or 33 hours LvL 4 mission grinding giving you 20 cents/hour or 60 cents/hour respectively for boring ingame grinding to get a plex, or you can use those same hours making 9/hour dollar minimal wage at McDonalds and have a plex in 4 hours, choice is yours. 20 cents/hour or 60 cents/hour, you are converting ISK to USD. Just because a PLEX can get you ~800mil for $20 doesn't mean it's "worth" that much.
J'Poll CDG Playgrounds 4298	Posted - 2014.08.06 07:21:00 - [19] - Quote Jur Tissant wrote: Netan MalDoran wrote: Lets put it this way, you can either grind 100 hours mining, or 33 hours LvL 4 mission grinding giving you 20 cents/hour or 60 cents/hour respectively for boring ingame grinding to get a plex, or you can use those same hours making 9/hour dollar minimal wage at McDonalds and have a plex in 4 hours, choice is yours. 20 cents/hour or 60 cents/hour, you are converting ISK to USD. Just because a PLEX can get you ~800mil for $20 doesn't mean it's "worth" that much. It is worth that much as that is how convertion works. If I go to the bank with that spare dollar I have left over from my us trip, they will give me 'x' Euro for it based on the exchange rates. Same with Dollar/Euro/Pounds to ISK. The only difference is that it is a one way exchange possibility. But it does make it possible to 'calculate' your RL income in EVE. p.s. OP there is NO easy way to PLEX your account. If there was, everybody was doing it and a PLEX would cost 800 bil instead of 800 mil. Simple supply & demand. Work 2 more hours or skip a couple of beers a month. 15 Euro (less if you take long term subs) a month to play this game for 30 days or... 15 euro for about 7 beer where I live in my local bar, which means about 3 hours tops. Which gets me more bang for my buck... Personal channel: *Crazy Dutch Guy* Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 5681	Posted - 2014.08.06 07:36:00 - [20] - Quote Xuixien wrote: I used to PLEX my accounts. I stopped when PLEX became too expensive to justify spending the ISK and now I use my credit card instead. It's liberating and I don't know why I didn't do it sooner. I'm the opposite. I spent my first four years paying a sub on up to five accts. Then one day I thought, "I seem to have a couple of hundred billion ISKies I'm not using for anything ". I've been PLEXing ever since. Although I agree with the above people in that if you are new and have only one acct, don't turn the game into a second job. Even at minimum wage it'll only cost you about an hours pay for a month of game time. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!

Captain Soju State War Academy Caldari State 11	Posted - 2014.08.06 07:52:00 - [21] - Quote So, OP If $15 a month really hinders your $200k college education costs (Assuming you are in the US), then by all means spend 180 hours a month to make that $15 to play eve. That and never mention the word "free" until you graduate and get your first job CS An eternal newbie's guide to the world of Eve Online - http://captainsoju.blogspot.co.uk/
Areen Sassel 23	Posted - 2014.08.06 12:14:00 - [22] - Quote Gulo the Savage wrote: Right now I'm sitting on a few ships from these missions as well as about 3million ISK and if I want to keep playing this game (which I think I will) I'll have to earn my PLEX in-game as opposed to paying for it. I'm a college student and don't really have the money to dish on this game's subscription every month, and I also think it would be fun to strive for. Besides the advice you've been given (ie, don't even try), why not subscribe intermittently? Play EVE in the vacation, not during term. For bonus points, if you really like EVE you can still avoid dropping out of university by this method.
Maeltstome Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi 561	Posted - 2014.08.06 16:32:00 - [23] - Quote Gulo the Savage wrote: Hey guys. This is my second day in EVE and I rather enjoy it. It looks kinda boring to watch on videos but being inside the game is a much different story. That aside, I'm on a 21- day trial and recently completed the tutorial along with a couple of the Career Agent missions. Right now I'm sitting on a few ships from these missions as well as about 3million ISK and if I want to keep playing this game (which I think I will) I'll have to earn my PLEX in-game as opposed to paying for it. I'm a college student and don't really have the money to dish on this game's subscription every month, and I also think it would be fun to strive for. So how am I to make a lot of ISK in this trial period to fund this game? To answer your final question, you basically cant. It takes roughly 20 hours of basic grinding at high-end PVE to earn yourself a plex. Other ways of earning isk faster require significant skill points, initial isk investment and experience... not to mention potentially using social connections. You don't want Eve as a job in college, you'll fail exams. Get a real job or work an extra hour every week overtime to pay for the subscription and it's much less effort and much more enjoyment.
Tao Dolcino Jolly Jumpers Squad 325	Posted - 2014.08.06 18:26:00 - [24] - Quote Gulo the Savage wrote: I understand that it's generally not worth it to spend ISK on a PLEX, but I'd really rather have that $15 a month for beer or something. A beer ? There's nothing more interesting in life than drinking a beer ? You'd tell us that you want to save the 15 for some books, or a hobby, or to invite your girlfriend, or to give to the poor, or whatever... respect. But a f*cking beer ? Favoritism is good - CCP 2013
Leoric Firesword Dark Fusion Industries 45	Posted - 2014.08.06 20:53:00 - [25] - Quote I was able to plex my account after 2 months, month 1 training into a battleship, month 2 finishing out the plex (playing 1 or two hours a night). After that I got smart(er) month 3 I spent training a PI alt, month 4 I spent training a PI alt, month 5 I spent training PI on my main, I now make over 1 bil a month with PI, so while I still plex my account I only play when I have the time to do so, and since I'm not grinding missions over and over just to pay for the account I don't get burnt out. granted, plex were ~ 500 million isk when I started, wouldn't want to be trying to grind 800 mil now. also, you can't train battle cruisers OR battleships on a trial account, so unless you've got mad skills, you'll be sinking $15 into it for the first month
William Ruben The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple 24	Posted - 2014.08.07 04:54:00 - [26] - Quote I just got a deal for a year's sub that is basically $5.50 a month via Steam's recent sale. Sure I had to put out the money in advance for this coming year, but then that's just one evening at the pub. One night out vs. one year EVE. Think about it. As a newb I need the ISK for SHIPS not PLEX
Chu Ke Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2014.08.08 13:26:00 - [27] - Quote Gulo the Savage wrote: Hey guys. This is my second day in EVE and I rather enjoy it. It looks kinda boring to watch on videos but being inside the game is a much different story. That aside, I'm on a 21- day trial and recently completed the tutorial along with a couple of the Career Agent missions. Right now I'm sitting on a few ships from these missions as well as about 3million ISK and if I want to keep playing this game (which I think I will) I'll have to earn my PLEX in-game as opposed to paying for it. I'm a college student and don't really have the money to dish on this game's subscription every month, and I also think it would be fun to strive for. So how am I to make a lot of ISK in this trial period to fund this game? 15 bucks a month, surely booze cost more
Gor Yo State War Academy Caldari State 23	Posted - 2014.08.08 14:14:00 - [28] - Quote Gulo the Savage wrote: Hey guys. This is my second day in EVE and I rather enjoy it. It looks kinda boring to watch on videos but being inside the game is a much different story. That aside, I'm on a 21- day trial and recently completed the tutorial along with a couple of the Career Agent missions. Right now I'm sitting on a few ships from these missions as well as about 3million ISK and if I want to keep playing this game (which I think I will) I'll have to earn my PLEX in-game as opposed to paying for it. I'm a college student and don't really have the money to dish on this game's subscription every month, and I also think it would be fun to strive for. So how am I to make a lot of ISK in this trial period to fund this game? you are a college student. go flip burgers or something. it will take you faaaaaar lesssssss to get 15 bucks than 700mil ISK in game.


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