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Hippey
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Posted - 2003.10.02 13:07:00 -
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To all the possible Kor-Azor champions, I would like to offer you my service as wingman to assist you in winning this tournament.
I have been a fighter since day 1, when our galaxy was in it's pre-stage, some might call it beta, and have mastered the skill of flying out beautiful Rifter. I am an expert at dogfighting and have never lost a battle to this day.
I am innovative, dedicated and lightning fast. I am also the Warchief of my tribe so I bring experience in leading as well as performing, though I would not presume to take command of your squadron champion, I will be there to cover your hide until our victorious end.
What better way to enter into a new era of peace and prosperity between our two people, then with an Amarr champion and a Minmatar wingman.
Thank you for your time.
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If you kill them, they will die!
Sport the war, war support
The sport is war, total war
When victory's really a massacre.
The final swing is not a drill
It's how many people I can kill! |
Hardin
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Posted - 2003.10.02 13:25:00 -
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Meddling in Amarr affairs again? I thought you Oracle dudes had enough on your hands in Curse!
I am not sure if you are aware but most Amarr have a vote in the pre-selection of champions for the 'House' battles.
I have a feeling that those Amarr champions who do select non-Amarr wingmen are not going to do very well in the vote - particularly those who select Minmatar wingmen from a well known terrorist organisations.
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Hippey
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Posted - 2003.10.02 13:33:00 -
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I am terrorist by Sarum's words, freedom fighter by Kor-Azor's.
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If you kill them, they will die!
Sport the war, war support
The sport is war, total war
When victory's really a massacre.
The final swing is not a drill
It's how many people I can kill! |
Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2003.10.02 13:35:00 -
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You imply that Kor-Azor supports the actions and ideals of Oracle?
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annoing
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Posted - 2003.10.02 13:36:00 -
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And now Amarrians you can understand my objections and distaste for this Concord sposored event.
Having Minmatarri in the selction of OUR Emperor is wrong. Cannot corperations like Oberon see that? Are they so blinded by their dreams of isk that they fail to see the bigger picture? Do they truly wish to see the destruction and slavery of the Amarrian Empire? For this is what it means. Amarr will end, there will be no more Empire.
Times of the armageddon are upon us children of Amarr. Only YOU can prevent our destruction. Vote for anyone other than champions for Kor-Azor. He is the devil in disguise.
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The Inquisition
Long live the Inquisition
Long live the Emperor
Long live Amarr!
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.10.02 13:39:00 -
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When did he say that?
Was it when Minmatar 'freedom fighters' executed the Imperial Envoy to Ammatar?
No loyal Amarr with any sense would support an Amarr champion with your support as a wingman Hippey.
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Takumi Vetinari
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Posted - 2003.10.02 13:39:00 -
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Please be assured that, should foreigners be permitted to take part in the succession, their respective heirs will not be recognised should they be the eventual victor.
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Takumi Vetinari, Founder
PIE Inc
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Hippey
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Posted - 2003.10.02 13:41:00 -
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You can spin your propaganda however you want, you can even keep saying that you defend the empire space even though you spend more time in Pator then in Amarr, but you cannot make everyone believe that you are just and we are wicked. Not everyone is that stupid.
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If you kill them, they will die!
Sport the war, war support
The sport is war, total war
When victory's really a massacre.
The final swing is not a drill
It's how many people I can kill! |
Hippey
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Posted - 2003.10.02 13:44:00 -
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You imply that Kor-Azor supports the actions and ideals of Oracle?
And yes I do imply that Kor-Azor support the abolishment of slavery, actions and ideals of Oracle.
This is no secret, it is his main agenda.
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If you kill them, they will die!
Sport the war, war support
The sport is war, total war
When victory's really a massacre.
The final swing is not a drill
It's how many people I can kill! |
Takumi Vetinari
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Posted - 2003.10.02 13:48:00 -
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There is a considerable difference between the enactment of ideals and those ideals themselves.
If Doriam Kor-Azor supports the murder of Amarr by Minmatar terrorists, he has no place as an heir.
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Takumi Vetinari, Founder
PIE Inc
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Hippey
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Posted - 2003.10.02 13:54:00 -
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I murder slavers, not Amarr. I murder Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar AND Amarr, if they conduct slave trade.
Though obviously Doriam doesn't fully approve of our methods, he understands the need for them and also understands that if he DOES become emperor, we will have completed our mission and need not shed anymore blood.
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If you kill them, they will die!
Sport the war, war support
The sport is war, total war
When victory's really a massacre.
The final swing is not a drill
It's how many people I can kill! |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2003.10.02 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 02/10/2003 14:00:05
If Minmatars are going to be so anxious to take part in the trials, perhaps loyal Amarrian subjects should consider intervening in the forthcoming vote of confidence for the Minmatar Republic's prime minister.
Somehow Hippey, I don't think you would like our intervention.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Hardin
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Posted - 2003.10.02 14:05:00 -
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You can spin your propaganda however you want, you can even keep saying that you defend the empire space even though you spend more time in Pator then in Amarr, but you cannot make everyone believe that you are just and we are wicked. Not everyone is that stupid.
Propaganda? No
Truth? Yes
PIE just? Yes
Oracle wicked? Yes ofc (what a silly question  )
Why? Because we defend our traditions and way of life and you seek to disrupt it at every opportunity you get... this 'wingman' simply being another heretical example!
Yes we defend the Empire and if that means going into Minmatar space to tackle those who would interfere then that is what we do.
Do you expect us to sit here on the defensive and just wait for you and your Oracle buddies show up and wreak havoc in Empire space?
As we have said before we feel it was (please note) PARTLY a result of our constant harrassment of your various HQ's and mining ops that led to Oracle's dash to Curse to 'build strength' (I fully understand that you will of course deny that)
As a result the threat to the slave trade in the Empire has diminished noticeably. I haven't seen another Oracle apart from you for the past week...
...and before you start yes you did kick my arse the other day and yes I will eventually get my revenge when I have my ship properly equipped you Minmatar dog! 
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Hippey
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Posted - 2003.10.02 14:16:00 -
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Ahh let's not get into that topic of why we moved to Curse. You'd like to think it's because of your "strength" and we have to prove you wrong by telling the truth.
But this is not the thread for that topic. I have put my offer to the table and that was the whole point.
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If you kill them, they will die!
Sport the war, war support
The sport is war, total war
When victory's really a massacre.
The final swing is not a drill
It's how many people I can kill! |
Hardin
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Posted - 2003.10.02 14:27:00 -
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Yes - and I wouldnt have even brought up the subject if you hadn't started questioning why were in Minmatar space... I guess it is something we are just going to have to add to the long list of things we disagree on 
Your point is that you want to be a wingman for a champion representing Dorian Kor-Azor... fair enough...
My point was that it is heretical for a Minnie to be involved in the selection of Emperor and that all loyal Amarr should vote against any supposed 'Champion' who is misguided enough to select a Minmatar wingman...
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.10.02 14:36:00 -
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How is your is your standing with the Amarr Empire, Hippey?
Does the governments hate you sufficiently yet?
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Moving Shadow
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Posted - 2003.10.02 14:39:00 -
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I do love to see an offer like the one Hippey has made. It always makes the amarrians cry like women at the thought of a foreigner having a say in things.
The Minmatar Republic would give an amarrian a say in politics, provided he was a citizen of our state.
The difference is that there are millions of minmatar living and dying in amarr who have no voice and no freedom.
So, who is the superior race? The free and proud Minmatar or the Amarr - slavers who have become enslaved by tradition?
Just a thought.
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Mallus Kulov
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Posted - 2003.10.02 15:36:00 -
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He would hardly support you attacking Amarr citizens. Head back to that hole of the galaxy.
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Thesiuss
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Posted - 2003.10.02 16:04:00 -
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Edited by: Thesiuss on 02/10/2003 18:40:10
I don't presume to speak on the behalf of Doriam Kor-Azor but rest assured that he does not endorse the actions of the terrorist corp of Orcale.
You may be "freedom fighters" but you are spilling amarrian blood. And when it comes down to it we are for the Amarr Empire and it's people.
Personally I have no love for the minmatar people and if I could, I would snap my fingers and have every one of them simply vanish from existence (also know that there are just as many amarrian within Oberon that wish the minmatar people free based on moral principals). But I do realize as others in the empire do, that slavery, as a whole is a burdensome weight for the Empire. And if we don’t abolish the arcane practice and rid ourselves of this burden, it will continue to cause the Empire to lag behind the other races economically.
Understanding the very complex landscape of amarr politics continues to elude you, and the more that your kind, try to assist our beloved benefactor, the more complicated and dangerous matters become for him. The best thing Oracle can do it cease and desist your activities, because your efforts hurt more than help at the moment.
Oberon Incorporated
Oberon Inc Website--------------Oberon Sales Page
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Hippey
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Posted - 2003.10.02 16:29:00 -
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Oh Oracle shoudl cease our activities? And the 15,000+ slaves we liberated during our campaign would have been freed by...? Oberon? Whatever.
Our methods may be crude, but they are most certainly necessary as slavers (mostly Amarr) are barbaric vile creatures, and you'd have to be to embrace slavery and enjoy watching the suffering of others. In my book, slavers are worse then satan.
Understand one thing, we will stop only when slavery in all it's forms is abolished. Now you can help this end the peacefull way by using me as wingman to help Kor-Azor, or do nothing, and force me to kill all slavers 1 by 1
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If you kill them, they will die!
Sport the war, war support
The sport is war, total war
When victory's really a massacre.
The final swing is not a drill
It's how many people I can kill! |
Thesiuss
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Posted - 2003.10.02 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: Thesiuss on 02/10/2003 16:47:48
You've freed a few thousand, we've freed hundreds of thousands, through our repatriation program with the Amatar Republic.
I reiterate, that the complexities of amarr politics elude your understanding. There are forces at work, seen and unseen, that through your actions you jeopardize.
And if the Kor-Azor bid for the throne fails then all you will every be able to free is a few thousand of your people. Machinations are at work on a far grander scale Hippy and the future of ALLyour people are but one of the stakes involved.
Oberon Incorporated
Oberon Inc Website--------------Oberon Sales Page
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.10.02 16:59:00 -
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Thesiuss - no point replying mate...
Now you see why your 'liberal' campaign is a waste of time. The Minmatar show you no gratitude for your efforts... Their path is a path of violence and death.
'Free the slaves' you say? Surely you must realise this will not resolve the issues between our races! These Minmatar will simply find another excuse to wage war on the Amarr people.
Surely you realise your 'campaign' is doomed to fail - The Minmatars don't want it and nor do the majority of Amarr.
It would be better if you spent your time and energy in assiting loyal Amarr corps to reintegrate and reducate these wayward children who have left the path of righteousness.
In the long run it is the only solution!
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Gracchus
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Posted - 2003.10.02 17:52:00 -
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Hippey,
As illustrious as your war record has been, I do not believe that your kind has any suitability in the selection process of the new "Living God" of the Amarrian people. Your people have largely stepped off the path to enlightenment that the devoted studies of the scriptures would lead.
I believe that military prowess, though important, should be secondary to spiritual purity in this event.
Nothing personal. I would not invite Miso to a virgin sacrifice either.....
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Hippey
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Hippey on 02/10/2003 18:14:04
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Edited by: Thesiuss on 02/10/2003 16:47:48
You've freed a few thousand, we've freed hundreds of thousands, through our repatriation program with the Amatar Republic.
Where is your proof of this? Ours is well documented, as are images showing these slaves returning to their families and praising all things Oracle. I have seen nothing that shows your liberation of these. If you can indeed show proof you've liberated hundres of thousands, then I will apologize and give you my respect.
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'Free the slaves' you say? Surely you must realise this will not resolve the issues between our races! These Minmatar will simply find another excuse to wage war on the Amarr people.
That's what you say, and frankly, opinions of slavers are not worthy of any consideration.
We've demonstrated our pledge to the cause by only targetting slavers and even killing Minmatar slavers.
Though I personally enjoy combat and love the smell of burning plasma in the morning, I also long for a day when I can put down my weapons, start a family and live in peace. But I'll be damned if you, PIE or any other slaving scum still thinks that you can put your filthy hands on my future son/daughter.
I am ready to die for my cause, are you ready to be cloned for yours?
You know the length of the extremes I am willing to go to accomplish this.
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If you kill them, they will die!
Sport the war, war support
The sport is war, total war
When victory's really a massacre.
The final swing is not a drill
It's how many people I can kill! |
Thesiuss
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:39:00 -
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Hippy our program of slave repatriation has been operating for decades now. And when the time is right we will make all details of this program public but we felt (and still do feel) that in the best interest of the corporation and the "would be free" slaves, that secrecy is of the up most importance.
A affimation of our caution is evident with the Kor-Azor sponsored convoy carrying newly freed slaves to Minmatar space being beset upon and utterly destroyed only recently.
Yet another example of your lack of insight into amarrian politics. Would you have the space lanes become littered with the bodies of your brothers and sisters so that you could have your "proof"? The time for openly freeing slaves was not right then nor is it now but after the rites of succession things may be different depending on who sits on the throne.
Hardin, in order for you to gain a better understanding of Oberon I suggest you read the history of our corporation which can be found at our website here.
As you will read, there are two distinct factions within Oberon but both want the same goal...the end of slavery in the Amarr Empire. One faction wants to abolish slavery purely based on economic reasons and cares little for the minmatar people, they can live or die it doesn't matter. The other faction within Oberon wants to abolish slavery based purely on moral issues, wanting to reunite them with either their Amatar or Minmatar brothers but free nonetheless. My personal views lay with those that believe in the economic benefit of ending slavery.
Because of this I care little about the support of the minmatar of my views, because at the heart of my views I care only for the Empire, and what's best for the Empire is the abolishment of slavery.
Oberon Incorporated
Oberon Inc Website--------------Oberon Sales Page
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Ph0enix
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Posted - 2003.10.02 23:05:00 -
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Personally I have no love for the minmatar people and if I could, I would snap my fingers and have every one of them simply vanish from existence
yet your corp is dedicated to the freedom of our people? i find this very hard to believe. why work towards freeing a race you wish to "vanish from existence"?
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If Doriam Kor-Azor supports the murder of Amarr by Minmatar terrorists, he has no place as an heir.
we fight Slavers of any race, and so will only kill Amarrians as long as they continue to trade in slaves.
its quite simple, i'm sure you self proclaimed interlects can grasp it.
Amarr Empire - Slavery = End of Oracle Attacks
therefore if Doriam Kor-Azor abolishes slavery we will lay down our weapons and live peaceful lives. so as you see, it is in Doriam Kor-Azor's interest to take the best damn Minmatar pilot in the galaxy as a wingman.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2003.10.02 23:12:00 -
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I would put it like this, PhOenix:
Amarr Empire + PIE = End of Oracle attacks
As for your complete absence in Minmatar space these last weeks, well it has made it very simple for PIE to engage in, shall I say, pre-emptive operations.
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.10.02 23:20:00 -
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We battle for the sole reason of liberating our kin, and all slaves. End the slavery and our attacks will cease. We carry no hatred for the Amarr people into battle, only hatred of those that deal in slaves.
Hippy has offered his service as a wingman for a champion. This act of fighting alongside of someone many would think his enemy, is symbolic of our vision of the future, after slavery is abolished. Where Amarr and Minmatar can work side by side, as equals.
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Thesiuss
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Posted - 2003.10.02 23:36:00 -
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yet your corp is dedicated to the freedom of our people? i find this very hard to believe. why work towards freeing a race you wish to "vanish from existence"?
Phoenix please go and read my post......but carefully. It clear states that yes I want to end slavery in Amarr because I adhere to the faction that believe that having slaves is a economic burden, keeping the empire from modernizing it's industries.
And since I can't just snap my fingers and make them disappear, then we must do all we can to free them. So that the Amarr Empire can began to join the rest of the races on the cutting edge of technology.
Just because I want the minmatar people free doesn't mean that I have to love or even like them. The end result is still the same......freedom for the minmatar slaves.
Oberon Incorporated
Oberon Inc Website--------------Oberon Sales Page
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annoing
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Posted - 2003.10.03 00:01:00 -
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Any 'Champion' from any Corperation will soon find itself marked out for special treatment by so many other different corps and factions if they employ Minmatarri as a wingmen.
Regardless of the outcome of the 'event', whichever Heir acsends to the throne, they will find my support. However, any corperation that lowers itself to employ sub-racial species as wingmen will find itself the target of attack. And not just by me i'll wager.
Yes Thesi I have noticed and taken onboard your comments about retribution, but it does not worry me, nor does it scare me. Clones are cheap, ships are cheap. But self 'belief' costs. My belief may cost me many clones and many ships, but I will not desist nor will I waver. Do the sensible thing, regardless of Kor-Azor in house rules. Choose only Amarr as wingmen should your corperation champion win through to represent Kor-Azor.
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The Inquisition
Long live the Inquisition
Long live the Emperor
Long live Amarr!
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