Originally by: Dr Conelli

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Edited by: Dr Conelli on 12/07/2006 14:12:45
I like this Idea.
Maybee the Vets will leave as alot of people stated, but there will be even more Motivation for the new Player because they have more Goals to reach.

So who cares about the few Vets when u can get ten times more newer, younger player for new challanges.

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Originally by: Dr Conelli

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Edited by: Dr Conelli on 12/07/2006 14:12:45
I like this Idea.
Maybee the Vets will leave as alot of people stated, but there will be even more Motivation for the new Player because they have more Goals to reach.

So who cares about the few Vets when u can get ten times more newer, younger player for new challanges.

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Originally by: cytomatrix

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Great idea!! Why dont we test it on players who post these kinda threads?

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Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron

Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2

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overall the skill system is pretty good but at this point I do beleive eve would be mroe attractive to new players if they gave the new accounts a significant trianing boost or headstart. Say a new account gets 50% bon8us to training speed for the first month. doesnt really hurt anyone imho.

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Originally by: Dr Conelli

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Edited by: Dr Conelli on 12/07/2006 14:12:45
I like this Idea.
Maybee the Vets will leave as alot of people stated, but there will be even more Motivation for the new Player because they have more Goals to reach.

So who cares about the few Vets when u can get ten times more newer, younger player for new challanges.

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Originally by: Fitz VonHeise

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I wrote this to the EVE group but they are "too busy" to answer.
So I thought I would put this out for all to read and comment on.


I've been looking at this link:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID;30
7861 It appears that the longer you play this game the more skills and points you have and the new guys can never catch up. You can't even take over the spots of the higher people as they are not going to die off like people would in real life so others of younger years can move up and take over. In essence you have created a world that has no death and those who come later will never be in a position of real power. That is depressing and makes it impossible to work towards being the best in this game when you come into it 3 years into the making. Those who have been here for ages are having a great old time. But those who haven't will never see the pinnacles of victory. How are you going to address this issue? It is one that the Sci-Fi books talk about.


I had another thought about this. The only way to "solve" this is to have these old characters actually die off. And this could be done by just making an announcement along the lines of: "There has been a flaw found in the cloning process that was not anticipated. Scientist have found that a certain percentage of clones die and are unable to be revieved after XXX number of years. The percentage of clones that die grows exponentialy after xxx number of years."

You could make the announcment far enough in advance that these people can start shifting their money to other characters... (just like in real life) but the skills earned would dissapear and others would take their place in the corporations.

You will get the old guys mad I'm sure.... but there are lots of others who are playing this that will realize the advantages and like this policy. And you will force people to be training their "kids" (other characters) who would be available to be voted into leadership positions when the time comes. (As would happen in real life)

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Originally by: Mrmuttley

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Originally by: Phasics

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I dissagree with you ALL !!!! The kid has a point !

I'd be ok with this idea as long as when my main charcter dies in a several months time (he's nearly at the ripe ole age of 3)

he is REBORN ! AS A JOVE !!! MWHAHAHAHA

AND

has access to all jovian skills including;
Jovian higher learning which decreases training time by 500% per level ! not to mention 2 other skills including
Jove Singularity Jump drive which can jump into any system (including the locked Jove systems) as it dosent require a cyno field at the other end to work (did I mention at lv 5 this cpu need drops to 0 so it can be fit on any ship.
and
Jove Quantum Retrofitting which can convert regular tech I ships and equipment into Pesudo Jove ships when a true Jove ship is not available.

So yeah BRING ON THE MASS EXTINCTION NOOB, I SHALL LIVE AGAIN !

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Wait a sec Ill be 3 in seven months time.

*Mrmuttley* looks into crystal ball at the future.

Jove BS trained to level 5 OMGWTFPWN weapon trained to level 9 (I'll be a Jovian I can do stuff like that)

*Mrmuttley* admires own uberness

I nominate Phasics for Dev or President of Iceland or both.

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Originally by: Fitz VonHeise

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Thanks for the input everyone and I will work on gaining those skills, reputation and social contacts needed to move into a leadership position (somewhere) in the future.

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 11/07/2006 14:59:50

New players are not "disadvantaged."

End of story.

Lets take a sports analogy and combine it with EVE. Lets say a veteran can play Football, Tennis, and Baseball well. A new player trains up and eventually can play Baseball and Tennis well. Now the veteran can play Football, Tennis, Baseball, Volleyball, and Rugby well. But when the veteran plays the newer player in Football, the veteran is no better.

After a certain point (around a year to a year and a half of play) you cannot get any better at one specific thing. Instead, you can branch out, to be more versatile. But you can only do one thing at a time.

And if you're really obsessed, you can buy a veteran character with the ISK you've earned.

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Originally by: Oveur (at FanFest 2006)

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Titans aren't meant to be cost-effective - they're giant ****s!

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