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Omega Bloodstone
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Posted - 2006.07.13 18:50:00 -
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EDIt: @Omega Bloodstone: You contradicted yourself lol: You said they send an officer once you caused enough damage to their faction, but that means you do more damage by killing only BS and moving on fast to next.
If thats true, deos the damage accumulate over time? or it has to reach certain level before DT?
Well, not necessarily contradicted myself. I said the more damage isk wise AND killing all the spawns lol(both were said). If I was only CCP I would base factual stuff on how it works but since I'm a player I have to base my ideas on the things I see and experience. Hell, if I'm ripping through belts killing everything and then get that uber spawn I'm going to search for reasons why. I've had it happen pretty often. So, because its happened to me a few times and I was utilizing the same ratting technique on all the occasions I assume thats a nich for making it happen. Mabye I'm just seriously lucky, but I'll stick to my opinion though because it happens to me.
P.S. Your character pic looks wildly evil(i think its the eyes lol)...Kinda like a Succubus(spelling not sure). It's spiffy.
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Audrea
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Posted - 2006.07.13 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Omega Bloodstone
EDIt: @Omega Bloodstone: You contradicted yourself lol: You said they send an officer once you caused enough damage to their faction, but that means you do more damage by killing only BS and moving on fast to next.
If thats true, deos the damage accumulate over time? or it has to reach certain level before DT?
Well, not necessarily contradicted myself. I said the more damage isk wise AND killing all the spawns lol(both were said). If I was only CCP I would base factual stuff on how it works but since I'm a player I have to base my ideas on the things I see and experience. Hell, if I'm ripping through belts killing everything and then get that uber spawn I'm going to search for reasons why. I've had it happen pretty often. So, because its happened to me a few times and I was utilizing the same ratting technique on all the occasions I assume thats a nich for making it happen. Mabye I'm just seriously lucky, but I'll stick to my opinion though because it happens to me.
P.S. Your character pic looks wildly evil(i think its the eyes lol)...Kinda like a Succubus(spelling not sure). It's spiffy.
Ah, I see what you meant now, thanks :) but tbh - I think u just were simply lucky. I also kill the whole spawns sometimes, and it has been MONTHS since my like true sansha  
PS: Yeah lol, just noticed  I guess I should have reviewed the eyes twice before approving it, but wanted to try the game earlier!  ------------------ Tired of fleet combat lag? -Post HERE
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Ernest Graefenberg
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Posted - 2006.07.14 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: siliconix
Originally by: Ernest Graefenberg
2. Only regions with pirate sovereignty get officers, which follow the same basic spawning pattern as faction spawns (one per region and most likely in the system with the most spawn triggers), yet at a much, much lower rate.
I've had Kaikka (smallest guristas officer) in Tenal..thats not npc controlled/sov.
/sili
I've never heard of anyone getting officers (or personally gotten one) in a non-pirate sov region. Are you certain you weren't just in the little peninsula of Venal that stretches right into Tenal?
Although I wouldn't be too surprised if the lowend officers (Mizuro/Kaikka etc.) would spawn in other systems.
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mEsSiAh II
Syncore Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.14 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ernest Graefenberg
Originally by: siliconix
Originally by: Ernest Graefenberg
2. Only regions with pirate sovereignty get officers, which follow the same basic spawning pattern as faction spawns (one per region and most likely in the system with the most spawn triggers), yet at a much, much lower rate.
I've had Kaikka (smallest guristas officer) in Tenal..thats not npc controlled/sov.
/sili
I've never heard of anyone getting officers (or personally gotten one) in a non-pirate sov region. Are you certain you weren't just in the little peninsula of Venal that stretches right into Tenal?
Although I wouldn't be too surprised if the lowend officers (Mizuro/Kaikka etc.) would spawn in other systems.
I've gotten a Sansha officer Brokara Ryver in C-PEWN (Esoteria) before and it had no pirate sovereignty. However when Tribal Souls setup one of their POS and claimed sov. in that system I haven't heard of anyone getting any officer spawns there. That might make some sense though, but I'm more inclined to believe that it is totally random and it is determined when you actually warp to the belt. Officers don't just appear there and you can't find them using a scanner.
So Ernest if your theory about regions with pirate sov. getting officers then wouldn't Pirate NPC regions like Stain (Sansha) be the best place to find them?
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Double TaP
The Establishment
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Posted - 2006.07.14 15:19:00 -
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I'm pretty sure it has to be in a region with pirate sovereignty; ie Venal, Stain, Curse, I think Delve now, Fountain
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Vengarioth Skullshanks
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:04:00 -
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Although i never had an officier.. and i never ever will find one, thats for sure :P
I can confirm that some corpmates found one in Branch (no pirate sov) and a few weeks ago a corpmate found one in Catch (no pirate sov).
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Ernest Graefenberg
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Ernest Graefenberg on 14/07/2006 16:18:05
Originally by: mEsSiAh II Officers don't just appear there and you can't find them using a scanner.
So Ernest if your theory about regions with pirate sov. getting officers then wouldn't Pirate NPC regions like Stain (Sansha) be the best place to find them?
Spawning is the way every NPC appears. If people didn't kill them when they spawn, they can "just sit there" perfectly fine.
Yeah, the pirate sovereignty bit might be a bit off. I'm really curious on more information on what makes officer spawns possible, but I can confirm that they spawn quite nicely in pirate sovereignty regions ;)
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Lord Spidey
Hmmzor.
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:22:00 -
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We used to chain spawns but since we started actually moving through the belts we have gotten many more officer spawns(in curse so under angel sov). Prolly about half a dozen in and as many months. Maybe they just spawn more in their territory?
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Double TaP
The Establishment
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:36:00 -
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I'm in a -1.0 system and I clear through the belts and I havn't even gotten a commander spawn, much less Miss Estamel.
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Mangus Thermopyle
Chosen Path Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:53:00 -
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I have seen officer in tribute, and as far as I know thats not a pirate region. Hmm, actually GODS had sov in h-w and d7 at that time, so maybe you could say that it was owned by pirates 
From what I have heard, its completely random what spawns, but the cleaner the system is, and the lower its security rating is, the more chance its a valuable spawn. So chaining is usulally not a good way to get commanders or officers.
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banannagirl
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.15 01:33:00 -
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think of officers as shadow shadows if you like .. !
the way to spawn shadowas is the way to spawn officers but for every five shados youll get an officer ... !
the way to spawn shadows is to kill every ship in the system - every system will spawn one shadow a day .. officers therefore should be like ... if your at it 24 hours .. youll get therefore an officer about every 4 days .. ! working non stop .. :) get your corp to rota it in each system ..and you should be able to farm officers as you can farm shadows .. ! it just takes time .. to kill EVER ship makes you moe likely to get shadows as the guy says ... officers to me sound like shadow shadows ... so if you work rotas in your corp if your stationned in 0.0 youll get one about every 5 days working 24/7 on the rats .. !
regards BG
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Dragon Lord
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Posted - 2006.07.15 12:04:00 -
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wow, thanks for all the replys, i got a dread spawn on a lvl3 mission but never seen any named like estamel which i here is uber rare, when i finally make the jump 2 0.0 i will try different stratagys in npcing, but wiping everything out kill an officer comes sounds logical and i would asume this being a game it would be based on logical patterns, dont quote me on that its just an assumption which could be completly wrong
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.07.15 12:08:00 -
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I've encountered one Officer in my time and it was indeed in a -1.0 system. The one 3 jumps from E02 in GW, I forget the name.
I know of people who have encountered them in higher sec system though (between 0.0 and -1.0).
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Ripline
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Posted - 2006.07.15 12:09:00 -
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As far as I'm aware we've had an officer spawn in Detorid, which is not Angel Cartel sov and as far as I know never has been. But only one I've heard of ever.
As for the rest.. Go to Curse. Seems to be your best shot at seeing an officer spawn. Relatively close, good to great NPCing, lot of stations. Reasonable market for 0.0. Hostile gangs roaming all over all the time. Get friendly with locals and accept the fact it's as violent place as any.
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Ishmael Hansen
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Posted - 2006.07.15 15:26:00 -
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I have seen 2 officers in my whole eve life, one in immensea, don't recall the system, and another one here:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/IshmaelGSY/Brokara.jpg
I tried eveything while ratting, I think and my opinion is that it is ramdom.
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Linavin
Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.07.15 16:57:00 -
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Yes its random, but doing corp/alliance wide system/constellation farming of the belts you can dependably get one every few days. ---
Originally by: Boris A I found the rock music button!
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Kyguard
LFC 3rd Front Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.15 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Spidey We used to chain spawns but since we started actually moving through the belts we have gotten many more officer spawns(in curse so under angel sov). Prolly about half a dozen in and as many months. Maybe they just spawn more in their territory?
Remember not to blob em  ===
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Viscount Hood
British Space Corporation
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Posted - 2006.07.15 22:17:00 -
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Interesting idea about killing all the npc's in a system, because after a podding in a fleet action I ended back in JZV-F4 when most of the alliance were still up in d7. So I went npc'ing around the belts and killed every single npc I found. Got to the last belt and got a Guristas Officer - Kaikka. JZV is a -0.9 I think and soverignty was Forsaken Empire at the time.
Maybe theres something in it - killing all the npc's. ? ------------------------------------------------
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Ctair Pilru
Nubs.
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Posted - 2006.07.15 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: Ctair Pilru on 15/07/2006 22:20:16 This morning the spawns in our ratting system of choice were terrible. Almost all battlecruisers. As such, we spent a couple hours or so just clearing all the crappy spawns.
This evening it paid off!
27m officer = dead 
GL to everyone else trying to get their lucky officer loots!  ---
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Maeliko
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Posted - 2006.07.15 22:46:00 -
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iŠve had 6 officers and 0 commanders so far 2 officers in querious, 1 in 0.8 one in 0.2 and 2 in missions. And yeah those Commanders are in the faction 0.0 sectors so my agent told me when he offered a BPC and wanted tags in exchange. So basicaly officers can spawn anywhere from 0.8 to 0.0 but the loot aint that good in 0.8 of corse since its just a frigate.
Well its about 1.5 years ago now so i dont know if they still spawn in 0.8
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