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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.06 12:57:00 -
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Reserved for later. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.06 14:39:00 -
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Please keep your feedback constructive and in accordance with the forum rules.
While you can of course just disagree with the proposed changes, it is much more helpful if you list the reasons and explain why you disagree. The post above by Traiori is a good example of constructive feedback.
Thank you! CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager |
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
163
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Posted - 2014.08.06 15:51:00 -
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CCP Lebowski wrote:In this change's current form active modules do not affect the distance that you will land from the wormhole. This is due to technical issues surrounding the mass calculations for your ship, which we are planning to fix, but may not make it into the Hyperion release.
Just wanted to make this known for the sake of full disclosure. Posting this here as well for visibility. CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
https://twitter.com/ccp_lebowski |
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
164
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Posted - 2014.08.06 16:58:00 -
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Dark Armata wrote:CCP Lebowski wrote:CCP Lebowski wrote:In this change's current form active modules do not affect the distance that you will land from the wormhole. This is due to technical issues surrounding the mass calculations for your ship, which we are planning to fix, but may not make it into the Hyperion release.
Just wanted to make this known for the sake of full disclosure. Posting this here as well for visibility. So despite pages of replies across 2 threads. This comment only proves you are not listening at all to the player feedback you requested as you are still spending more development time on this. Honestly, as someone said earlier; Pull this one part of Hyperion and wormholers will hail this the best update ever. Some amazing stuff in the dev blog, please don't ruin it. Please. As a QA analyst, I'm here to speak about the functionality of the feature, not its merits, and to make sure its as close to our designers vision as possible upon release. CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
https://twitter.com/ccp_lebowski |
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
164
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Posted - 2014.08.06 17:11:00 -
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na'Vi Ronuken wrote:CCP Lebowski wrote: As a QA analyst, I'm here to speak about the functionality of the feature, not its merits, and to make sure its as close to our designers vision as possible upon release. Can you tell the dudes sitting in your building that this is a bad change and we don't want it. or better yet -- as him/her to start reading this thread to understand the public sentiment behind this. Don't worry, everything posted in this thread is being read by the relevant designers (I sit right next to Fozzie so can confirm this first hand!). CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
https://twitter.com/ccp_lebowski |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.07 13:18:00 -
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Hey guys, thanks for the feedback so far. Special thanks to those who are providing lots of text about the reasoning behind your feelings, as those are the most useful posts.
We're continuing to pour over all the feedback and considering multiple options for adjustments to the plan based on what we're hearing. We probably won't have something new to announce for a couple days but we want you to know that we are listening and working hard behind the scenes in the meantime. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 21:53:00 -
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Hey everyone. I want to thank you for all the reasoned feedback posted here, in your third party blogs, and passed along to the CSM.
We've made some changes to the plan and updated the dev blog with the new version (It may take a few minutes to apply).
The goal with this set of tweaks is to make the time required to return to the wormhole (or to get within refit range of your friends) for average jumps shorter, while keeping a significant element of risk. To reach these goals, we're pulling the base spawn distance for large ships in significantly, to below 14km. At the same time we'll be adding a new mechanic that modulates the randomness of your jump based on how close a wormhole is to collapse. For a fresh wormhole with none of its mass limit used, the deviation from the base distance will be a maximum of 2km. For a jump that collapses the wormhole, the maximum deviation (which can send you even closer to the wormhole or farther away) will be a maximum of 5km.
This brings the average jump distance down significantly while preventing complete safety and giving players a new element to consider in their strategic decision making. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:30:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them.
The Rules: 12. Spamming is prohibited.
Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or nonsensical post that has no substance and is often designed to annoy other forum users. This can include the words GÇ£firstGÇ¥, GÇ£go back to (insert other game name)GÇ¥ and other such posts that contribute no value to forum discussion. Spamming also includes the posting of ASCII art within a forum post. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.25 14:11:00 -
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Hey guys. I wanted to post again to make sure it's clear that we are not ignoring this thread and that we will be continuing to keep a close eye on your feedback and on changes in player behavior.
I completely understand that some of you are feeling anger over the fact that we disagree about how this change will play out. We wish we could please everyone at all times but unfortunately that isn't always possible. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.08.26 18:02:00 -
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It seems like things have gotten a bit out of hand in this thread.
I can fully appreciated that some of you are unhappy with the changes that have gone out.
If you feel strongly about these changes, then give civil and concise feedback in the Hyperion feedback thread, and I'll point the development team in that direction.
Please don't make personal attacks on eachother, or employees of CCP, otherwise you'll lose the ability to post on the forums, and neither us nor you want it to come to that.
While you may see our development staff as avatars on a forum, please be aware that there are in fact people behind these faces, and abuse of CCP and our volunteers will not be tolerated.
CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.08.27 09:29:00 -
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Okay, so I came in a little more gently last time, because I know that there's quite a few people who don't like this particular change.
A large proportion of our development staff also play the game, myself included. At times, I don't agree with changes that are being made. However, I do exactly what the vast majority of other people do when a change is made that I don't like - I adapt to what's happened and adjust how I play to suit.
This thread was created over a month ago, and a big chunk of the valuable feedback has been drowned out by people ranting and abusing both CCP and eachother, hence why I asked for concise feedback in the Hyperion feedback thread.
If you guys want to keep it here, feel free to do so, but don't complain if feedback gets removed because it's packed in with ranting and personal attacks.
So, simple instruction for you guys out of your reaction to my previous post:
Here are the forum rules. Follow them, or scroll down and read what happens when you break them. It's that simple.
We have no problem with you guys voicing your concerns. In fact, I did the same for a decade as a player when I felt CCP had done something wrong. We do however have issues with people breaking the forum rules.
Carry on discussing this. I'll point people here, and look at collecting feedback to send to development. However, don't break the forum rules.
CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.08.27 12:01:00 -
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Necharo Rackham wrote:CCP Falcon wrote: This thread was created over a month ago, and a big chunk of the valuable feedback has been drowned out by people ranting and abusing both CCP and eachother, hence why I asked for concise feedback in the Hyperion feedback thread.
I think part of the frustration comes that we appear to be talking past each other; during the wormhole townhall, numerous people from both big and small corps outlined scenarios to CCP Fozzie in which they felt people would behave in a much more risk averse way after the changes, and thus generate less content. He was then asked for the reasons for the change - repeatedly - he was either unable or unwilling to articulate these. On the feedback thing - I've noticed that camping highsec wormholes is now much more of a thing (HIC+webber+inties) - apart from generating more kills of new explorers, I'm not sure this is a great change. Ultimately I think if you want to stick to this spawning distance thing, you are also going to factor in the types of space a particular wormhole links between.
Thanks very much for a solid, reasonable and concise response without using veiled personal attacks or trolling.
I'll pass this on directly to development.
CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3 |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2026
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Posted - 2014.08.31 19:31:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The Rules: 3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
11. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a petition under the Community & Forums Category.
19. All posts must be related to EVE Online.
Posts regarding other companies and products or services are prohibited and any content of this nature will be removed. Posts regarding other games are however permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum for the purposes of discussion only.
22. Post constructively.
Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.
30. Abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers is prohibited.
CCP operate a zero tolerance policy on abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers. This includes but is not limited to personal attacks, trolling, GÇ£outingGÇ¥ of CCP employee or ISD volunteer player identities, and the use of any former player identities when referring to the aforementioned parties. Our forums are designed to be a place where players and developers can exchange ideas in a polite and friendly manner for the betterment of EVE Online. Players who attack or abuse employees of CCP, or ISD volunteers, will be permanently banned from the EVE Online forums across all their accounts with no recourse, and may also be subject to action against their game accounts.
31. Rumor mongering is prohibited.
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the well being and spirit of the EVE Online Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators.
33. Posting of chat logs outside the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited.
The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread. Specific rules regarding the omission of pilot names apply in this instance. Further details can be found in the rules stickies in the Crime & Punishment forum channel.
34. Posting of kill reports outside of the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited.
More often than not, posts of this nature are made with inflammatory intent and are designed to promote trolling and flaming. Therefore, the posting of links to kill reports from any third party site, or the direct copy-pasting of kill reports from in game is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online Forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel. Specific rules regarding the omission of pilot names apply in this instance. Further details can be found in the rules stickies in the Crime & Punishment forum channel.
Thread re-opened ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.08.31 22:49:00 -
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There seems to be some confusion about the task of ISD's CCL division on this forum. Cleaning a thread of rule breaking posts has nothing to do with the content of said thread, it has to do with upholding the forum rules.
To quote two posts made by me in other threads on that: ISD Ezwal wrote:Please people, it's perfectly fine to disagree with each other and to post your opinions or a reaction on the opinion of others without resorting to profanity or personal attacks. In other words, it is possible to do so without breaking the rules. For example: 'Oh go hang yourself you bloody moron, I'm sick of you blabbering your pigshit all over this thread!' would most certainly get removed. It probably even gets you reported to CCP. On the other hand 'I can not put forward strongly enough the fact that I totally disagree with your line of thinking. I might even add I would find great difficulty in living with myself if I where to share your point of view!' would not. And in essence it says the same.... ISD Ezwal wrote:As there seems to be a bit of confusion as to why certain posts get deleted even if they are perceived not to be rule breaking, a little bit of explanation might be in order. If a post is found to be rule breaking it either gets edited or it gets deleted. If the latter, all posts quoting them (or replying to them without direct quoting) AND all post reacting on those quotes/replies get deleted as well for thread consistency. Even if those posts are not rule breaking in and of themselves. As an addition, the same goes for replies to edited out parts of the post they quote. For example: Post A is rule breaking and gets deleted. B replies to A, C replies to A, D however replies to B and E to K reply to D. The entire string of posts gets deleted because A is the origin of that string of posts. Please accept this explanation as is and do not reply to it. That would be off the topic of this thread. If you are perceiving a problem with ISD behaviour on the forum or are disagreeing with the way (your) posts are being moderated, please feel free to read the CCP policies and follow the procedure found under the header 'Complaints'
So please keep it on topic and above all civil from here on! ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
11185
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Posted - 2014.09.03 18:47:00 -
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Hey everyone. I want to post to remind you guys that we're not ignoring this thread, we're continuing to follow all the feedback on the Hyperion changes, as well as watching metrics extremely closely.
I understand that for some of you the fact that I'm posting in this thread without announcing something new may be frustrating, but we also don't want to give the impression that we've stopped reading.
We can't promise that we'll always agree with each of you on every particular issue, but we will never stop accepting feedback and re-evaluating the state of the game. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
11185
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Posted - 2014.09.03 18:53:00 -
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Ahost Gceo wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey everyone. I want to post to remind you guys that we're not ignoring this thread, we're continuing to follow all the feedback on the Hyperion changes, as well as watching metrics extremely closely.
I understand that for some of you the fact that I'm posting in this thread without announcing something new may be frustrating, but we also don't want to give the impression that we've stopped reading.
We can't promise that we'll always agree with each of you on every particular issue, but we will never stop accepting feedback and re-evaluating the state of the game. If you can, run some active statistics and see if the amount of jumps in w-space has declined since this update as people have left. Definitely will be interesting to see what destruction you have wrought.
I'm watching all those numbers very carefully. We've also been sharing a lot of stats with the CSM (The CSM in general and Corbexx in particular have been very helpful in working with us to ensure we watch all the right things), and we may be able to put some of them into a blog or something similar for public consumption at some point. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.09.05 21:36:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules: 31. Rumor mongering is prohibited.
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the well being and spirit of the EVE Online Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.09.10 10:14:00 -
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I have removed some off-topic posts. Please stay on topic and be respectful to other players. If you have nothing constructive or nice to say, please do not derail the purpose of the thread.
Quote:2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not conductive to the community spirit that CCP promotes. As such, this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.
Thanks for your cooperation. ISD Decoy Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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