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Burlock Ironfist
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.14 12:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Suckerpunch
Originally by: Zyranyth
Edited by: Zyranyth on 14/07/2006 11:18:50
Fark, is there no way to delete unintentional posts? =p
Intresting that vice president of IAC tells the original poster to stop it and next time contact inside alliance before posting into public forum. Then he edits his post and calls it "unintentional".
IAC press/PR department ftl?
should be a chalanging group to fight when they cant even sort themselves out internaly....
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Lord Spidey
Hmmzor.
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Posted - 2006.07.14 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Burlock Ironfist
Originally by: Suckerpunch
Originally by: Zyranyth
Edited by: Zyranyth on 14/07/2006 11:18:50
Fark, is there no way to delete unintentional posts? =p
Intresting that vice president of IAC tells the original poster to stop it and next time contact inside alliance before posting into public forum. Then he edits his post and calls it "unintentional".
IAC press/PR department ftl?
should be a chalanging group to fight when they cant even sort themselves out internaly....
Your insults and chest beating aside this is an increadibly lame situation. They had paid their money for a period of time and Chimp breached that contract. Its like getting paid a ransom from someone...then killing them.
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Kerushi
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: Kerushi on 14/07/2006 15:18:53
no offense to anyone, but, no one outside of said corperations has any idea what`s going on
Jozef Meurtrier, u should have contacted galde befor going public without posting proof
fyi galde is in the US timezone
personally, i`d love to see the screenshots, but that`s up for leadership i guess
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Crucifier
The Collective
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Posted - 2006.07.14 15:33:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Lord Spidey
Originally by: Burlock Ironfist
Originally by: Suckerpunch
Originally by: Zyranyth
Edited by: Zyranyth on 14/07/2006 11:18:50
Fark, is there no way to delete unintentional posts? =p
Intresting that vice president of IAC tells the original poster to stop it and next time contact inside alliance before posting into public forum. Then he edits his post and calls it "unintentional".
IAC press/PR department ftl?
should be a chalanging group to fight when they cant even sort themselves out internaly....
Your insults and chest beating aside this is an increadibly lame situation. They had paid their money for a period of time and Chimp breached that contract. Its like getting paid a ransom from someone...then killing them.
Spidey is absolutely right, it is just like blowing some1 up after he pays the ransom. Very, very lame.
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Drilla
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:09:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Therem Harth
Whatever LV forum team might want to post in this thread (which is not really about LV, believe it or not), careful consideration of facts in the OP shows CHIMP to be guilty of theft and breach of contract, possibly under a pretext of newly arisen hostilties LV->IAC, but that even that pretext seems to be flimsy, at best.
Yes, it was very unwise to leave POS without the password. The ethical and business sides of the story are not affected by that, though.
I have no personal interests vested with RMN or IAC (in fact, I think that very same POS blew up my cov ops a while ago due to my piloting error :) ). I just dislike dishonest behaviour in people, and especially so on corp/alliance level.
#include <stddisclaimer.h>
Yapp yapp yapp - WRONG.
The CHIMP - IAC standings were obvisouly changed because IAC decided to shoot at LV members unprovoked.
What RAZOR is doing in this thread is a bit wierd though.
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Terradoct
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:15:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Jozef Meurtrier
*9:30 Eve time, there were CHIMP, RAIDS and one RMN member on local. RMN member leaved system moving industrial ships to ISS Marginis. RMN POS shield was online, only corp members allowed, no password set.
*10:30 Eve time, RMN member returns to B-R5RB. All ships stored inside forcefield were missing. Battleships, HAC, Force Recons, large barges, other small ships and one Hulk, loaded with almost all minerals mined in last month. RMN estimates loss in 3-4B.
So the stole shps not only from our POS, but from yuor too.
I had contact with GM, and the say that CHIPS where using password for POS field.
There is an exploit, I tryed it reprodiuce on sisi ,the other day whe they stole my carrier from inside force field, and could. But I'm sure that there is such thing that you can go inside POS field in you POD a board any ship that are stationed there.
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MoeStyles
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:42:00 -
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This is as simple as this.
IAC was supposed to be gone by the 13th from Immensea. Not during or after.. By the 13th. That means no assets should have remained in Immensea by the end of the 12th and on the 13th IAC should have been gone.
IAC has a second POS in Immensea that we requested be removed and extended a 72 hour grace for this action to take place. It's past that deadline. IAC has not been acting in good faith towards CHIMP by all account.
IAC is friendly with known enemies of the coalition. Namely Red Assault Brigade for starters and IAC have been seen moving in Immensea together on several occasions by scouts and covert pilots which have been monitoring Immensea on my orders.
IAC cannot expect CHIMP to remain in a NAP when LV has declared war on IAC. CHIMP is a sworn ally of LV and when IAC violated their NAP with LV, CHIMP revoked the NAP. All IAC targets became open for attacks and raids by CHIMP members. There is no denial implicated that CHIMPs were involved. To what extent I am not sure and honestly it doesn't even matter at this point.
The so called raid on the IAC POS was not a planned movement. I am not even sure who all was involved because there were other more pressing matters concerning IAC members firing upon CHIMP before and after this event took place to my understanding. IAC at that point was being viewed as hostile.
Lastly, as I understand this, you're claming that there was no POS password. If you or anyone else is foolish enough to deploy a POS anywhere in the universe and you lose assets as a result, you deserve what you get. This includes Terradoct who lost his carrier which I might add is rather funny. It's not an exploit and no GM confirmed that it was CHIMP that was responsible for that action so stop spreading your BS Terradoct.
IAC needs to resolve their issues with LV. If LV agrees that IAC has honored obligations to LV under the NAP IAC was supposed to be operating under, then CHIMP will follow suit. (hurray for the soon to be "lap dogs of LV" rants)
IAC was given 10 hours ago from this message being posted a final 48 hour time frame to remove their POS' from Immensea else they will be removed for you. Any IAC seen with enemies of CHIMP and coalition forces will result in IAC being shot on sight. This is not negociable.
Also, not that I care about the implications, but you might want to be prepared to explain to coalition forces why Curse is in IAC's space at the moment. Is it in IAC's best interest to be taking up with folks that IAC is painfully aware are not friends towards coaltion forces?
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:51:00 -
[38]
Originally by: MoeStyles
IAC cannot expect CHIMP to remain in a NAP when LV has declared war on IAC. CHIMP is a sworn ally of LV and when IAC violated their NAP with LV, CHIMP revoked the NAP.
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Originally by: MoeStyles
For the record..
Haste was offered a spot to join LV.
No, you weren't.
I`d reconsider politic of your alliance after public slap in the face. 
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MoeStyles
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:56:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: MoeStyles
IAC cannot expect CHIMP to remain in a NAP when LV has declared war on IAC. CHIMP is a sworn ally of LV and when IAC violated their NAP with LV, CHIMP revoked the NAP.
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Originally by: MoeStyles
For the record..
Haste was offered a spot to join LV.
No, you weren't.
I`d reconsider politic of your alliance after public slap in the face.
I'd reconsider yours considering Nebba wasn't aware of the fact that Haste was offered a position with LV. The Enslaver and I have talked about this a bit and a post like that doesn't hurt my feelings. I'm not as frail as you RAT guys are with your flimsy pokes at trying to start drama between coalition partners.
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lilantris
Catalyst Reaction
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.07.14 17:13:00 -
[40]
If a coalition cant, stand strong against any agression. then what will it stand against? from my knowledge CHIMP has never left the coalition. so an attack on any of us is, still an attack on all. Thats how many pilots feel in CHIMP. IAC attakced LV, so instantly they were considered a threat. We happened to be on an OP against RAIDS, in the system with an IAC POS.
What would u guys do, leave a blind eye to someone in system, that might warp in and kill u? Did IAC even ask RAIDS about the incident? we nvr engaged IAC even tho they were moving a carrier back and forth from the system. soo as I see it we still gave them the grace to continue transporting equipment. The pos is still there untouched, and if ts a question of bringing in haulers. I'm sure all they need to do is contact us and we will coordinate a suprivised op to remove their assets.
Probs solved by comminacting, is it that hard?
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Rover Vitesse
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.14 18:57:00 -
[41]
Fair comment then Moe. It appears that [RMN] had been given a timeframe to have left by, they didn't stick to it, and then while in unpaid rent time (squatter), IAC opens fire on Chimaera Pact allies.
IAC fail to password their POS, then seem surpised that someone who has asked them to leave their space, who has just become more suspicious of their activites remove equipment from it.
If I invited you to a party at my house, you were a poor guest and overstayed your welcome whilst trying to screw my wife and then you left a can of beer in the fridge, I would drink it the morning after to ease my hangover....
Wierd analogies ftw.
Rovers Chronicles
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Lord Spidey
Hmmzor.
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Posted - 2006.07.14 18:58:00 -
[42]
Originally by: MoeStyles
*snip*
So did you take their ships from their pos or not? This is still unclear.
p.s. was it "no later than the 13th?" or "by the 13th" out of idle curiosity?
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Zhike Jonze
Wasteland Industries
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:20:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Zhike Jonze on 14/07/2006 19:22:31
Originally by: Terradoct
So the stole shps not only from our POS, but from yuor too.
I had contact with GM, and the say that CHIPS where using password for POS field.
There is an exploit, I tryed it reprodiuce on sisi ,the other day whe they stole my carrier from inside force field, and could.
Maybe, they are some nice guys in this galaxy that is not using every exploit in this game to their own favour. Next time Terradoct, set a password, Please
Every time I think about that carrier of yours. I cant help it, I laughtą..
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Katrinazinski
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:22:00 -
[44]
Looks like pure theft, to me. Being as how this is RMN v CHIMP thread.
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p.s. - Does it seem LV protesteth too much in this thread?
And, as for IAC, casual readers may care to try and get the facts straight before reaching hasty conclusions about IAC v LV, by asking a few questions:
1) Who shot first? (LV's 3-man gank squad shot first.)
2) Who protected their gang by returning fire? (IAC's substantially larger gang returned fire.)
3) Did LV wait for a leader conference with IAC before making a hasty War Dec? (Seems answer is "no"... and, guess LV is just baiting for a fight?)
4) But, back on topic, who used LV unrelated and hasty War Dec as pretense for theft and aggression? (Well, we had to come back "on topic"... This is RMN's thread, after all...)
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Kerushi
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:23:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Kerushi on 14/07/2006 19:23:17
Originally by: Lord Spidey
Originally by: MoeStyles
*snip*
So did you take their ships from their pos or not? This is still unclear.
p.s. was it "no later than the 13th?" or "by the 13th" out of idle curiosity?
Quote:
IAC was supposed to be gone by the 13th from Immensea. Not during or after.. By the 13th. That means no assets should have remained in Immensea by the end of the 12th and on the 13th IAC should have been gone.
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dgfhdfg
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:26:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Lord Spidey
Originally by: MoeStyles
*snip*
So did you take their ships from their pos or not? This is still unclear.
p.s. was it "no later than the 13th?" or "by the 13th" out of idle curiosity?
Looks like they did it using exploit. Wait, how the coalition can use exploit? Cause only RA use it, and the coalition are the saints, and never ever do that thing.
P.S. Yes, i am alt.
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Kerushi
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:29:00 -
[47]
Originally by: dgfhdfg
Originally by: Lord Spidey
Originally by: MoeStyles
*snip*
So did you take their ships from their pos or not? This is still unclear.
p.s. was it "no later than the 13th?" or "by the 13th" out of idle curiosity?
Looks like they did it using exploit. Wait, how the coalition can use exploit? Cause only RA use it, and the coalition are the saints, and never ever do that thing.
P.S. Yes, i am alt.
no password = no password
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Terradoct
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:44:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Zhike Jonze
Maybe, they are some nice guys in this galaxy that is not using every exploit in this game to their own favour. Next time Terradoct, set a password, Please
Every time I think about that carrier of yours. I cant help it, I laughtą..
Yes funny to use exploit in game to stole ships. You see there was no password on POS, only option to allw enter inside for corp members only. Tell me how could SCOOTER1, Kamikaze1, SUNScatcher enter POS field where they neve have been in our corp, besides there where in CHIP corp?
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Terradoct
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:45:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Kerushi
Originally by: dgfhdfg
Originally by: Lord Spidey
Originally by: MoeStyles
*snip*
So did you take their ships from their pos or not? This is still unclear.
p.s. was it "no later than the 13th?" or "by the 13th" out of idle curiosity?
Looks like they did it using exploit. Wait, how the coalition can use exploit? Cause only RA use it, and the coalition are the saints, and never ever do that thing.
P.S. Yes, i am alt.
no password = no password
only corp member = only corp members
even if there is no password for force field.
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Myoka Taki
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Posted - 2006.07.14 20:13:00 -
[50]
Was RMN a member of IAC the whole time of their immensea contract with CHIMP?
Oh and just FYI. Leaveing a POS with a blank force field password is no different than leaveing all your crap in a SS just waiting to be scan probed out. Anyway, you should be thankfull they didn't roll up with a dreadnought conga line on that POS.
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MoeStyles
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.14 20:24:00 -
[51]
Words of wisdom for the clueless.
Regardless of checking the corp or alliance boxes on a POS, the starbase password must be set. Anyone with the starbase password can enter regardless if they are in your corp / alliance.
This is not an exploit.
This has been a public service message for the clue impaired.
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Miscy Too
Star Kingdom of Manticore
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.07.14 21:34:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Miscy Too on 14/07/2006 21:36:37
I am very disappointed from CHIMP.
I never thought they are thiefs.
And use exploit is very honorable way to make several ISK.
BTW:
Originally by: MoeStyles
This is as simple as this.
IAC was supposed to be gone by the 13th from Immensea. Not during or after.. By the 13th. That means no assets should have remained in Immensea by the end of the 12th and on the 13th IAC should have been gone.
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Channel ID: 2109832558
Channel Name: Group Chat (Jade Ro, Rams)
Listener: Sheron Cristal
Session started: 2006.07.12 22:12:25
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[ 2006.07.12 22:12:25 ] Jade Ro > hey
[ 2006.07.12 22:12:26 ] Jade Ro > if you would
[ 2006.07.12 22:12:35 ] Jade Ro > just wondering about the Carrier in B-R
[ 2006.07.12 22:12:42 ] Jade Ro > we had some hostiles there
[ 2006.07.12 22:12:43 ] Sheron Cristal > hi
[ 2006.07.12 22:12:57 ] Jade Ro > and we were wondering what you guys were up to ... to know if its connected
[ 2006.07.12 22:12:58 ] Sheron Cristal > cyno in BR is RMN
[ 2006.07.12 22:13:04 ] Sheron Cristal > we are transporting stuff
[ 2006.07.12 22:13:05 ] Jade Ro > k
[ 2006.07.12 22:13:08 ] Jade Ro > k
[ 2006.07.12 22:14:06 ] Jade Ro > thanks
[ 2006.07.12 22:14:13 ] Sheron Cristal > np, cya :)
[ 2006.07.12 22:14:15 ] Jade Ro > you friendly with Red Assualt Brigade?
[ 2006.07.12 22:15:51 ] Sheron Cristal > we are living there about 4 month, they are good neighbor
[ 2006.07.12 22:16:22 ] Jade Ro > k
[ 2006.07.12 22:17:56 ] Sheron Cristal > we are closing pos in BR now, we need next day to transport all items
[ 2006.07.12 22:18:04 ] Jade Ro > k
[ 2006.07.12 22:18:05 ] Jade Ro > no worries
[ 2006.07.12 22:18:11 ] Jade Ro > we arent stressed about that
[ 2006.07.12 22:18:21 ] Sheron Cristal > ok, thx
[ 2006.07.12 22:18:23 ] Jade Ro > one of the Red guys was shooting our POS
[ 2006.07.12 22:18:30 ] Jade Ro > and we were reacting to that
[ 2006.07.12 22:18:36 ] Sheron Cristal > ach :)
[ 2006.07.12 22:20:38 ] Jade Ro > ok well fly safe
[ 2006.07.12 22:20:39 ] Jade Ro > out
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Terradoct
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Posted - 2006.07.14 21:44:00 -
[53]
Originally by: MoeStyles
Words of wisdom for the clueless.
Regardless of checking the corp or alliance boxes on a POS, the starbase password must be set. Anyone with the starbase password can enter regardless if they are in your corp / alliance.
This is not an exploit.
This has been a public service message for the clue impaired.
If there is no set password for force field, but option "alow corp membeer" is checked, then noone exept corp member can enter force field. If this true or not, let's here CCP answer to this.
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Galde
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:46:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Terradoct
Originally by: MoeStyles
Words of wisdom for the clueless.
Regardless of checking the corp or alliance boxes on a POS, the starbase password must be set. Anyone with the starbase password can enter regardless if they are in your corp / alliance.
This is not an exploit.
This has been a public service message for the clue impaired.
Even if you have it Checked for corp members, if people have the correct password to the bubble they can still enter it. Its to allow people that are outside your corp to be allowed to enter your bubble. Not setting a password is just like leaving the password area "blank".
If there is no set password for force field, but option "alow corp membeer" is checked, then noone exept corp member can enter force field. If this true or not, let's here CCP answer to this.
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Alyss Verte
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:53:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Terradoct
Originally by: MoeStyles
Words of wisdom for the clueless.
Regardless of checking the corp or alliance boxes on a POS, the starbase password must be set. Anyone with the starbase password can enter regardless if they are in your corp / alliance.
This is not an exploit.
This has been a public service message for the clue impaired.
If there is no set password for force field, but option "alow corp membeer" is checked, then noone exept corp member can enter force field. If this true or not, let's here CCP answer to this.
The allow corporation checkbox is there so you can STOP your corp members from using the POS not so you can limit it to corp only. If you set a password it allows other people not in your corp or alliance (or in it if you have them disallowed) into the bubble by right clicking their ship and setting the starbase forcefield password.
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MoeStyles
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:54:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Terradoct
Originally by: MoeStyles
Words of wisdom for the clueless.
Regardless of checking the corp or alliance boxes on a POS, the starbase password must be set. Anyone with the starbase password can enter regardless if they are in your corp / alliance.
This is not an exploit.
This has been a public service message for the clue impaired.
If there is no set password for force field, but option "alow corp membeer" is checked, then noone exept corp member can enter force field. If this true or not, let's here CCP answer to this.
Instead of trying to insert logic here I'm going to just say it this way. I have tested this with corp and alliance check boxes set and a starbase password set as well. Non-corp/alliance members with the password can and are meant to bypass this with the password.
The starbase password is meant to override the alliance / corp member settings of a POS. you can remove access from corp members so that only authorized members with the correct roles can enter a POS. This is by design.
The starbase password is meant to override this. It's by design. it's by design.. it's mean to override this.. how many times do I have to say it. ISD doesn't need to weigh in, you need to RTFM. I did.
If you didn't take time to learn how to setup a POS before you deployed one you don't deserve any mercy or pity when someone robs you. It's like being a bank and locking your doors but leaving the vault wide open and hoping no one simply has to break a window to get in and steal all your money.
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MoeStyles
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.14 23:02:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Miscy Too
Edited by: Miscy Too on 14/07/2006
21:36:37
*snip*
Funny enough you post in that chat log that you guys are friendly with Red Assault Brigade. Yet you're IAC members in Immensea and NAP'd with CHIMP knowing full well that Red are enemies of LV, CHIMP, KOS, V, and all others part of the coalition in the regions.
Jade made an inquiry. He didn't nor was he able to give any extention on the time in which IAC had to remove their assets. No one from IAC contacted CHIMP in order to get any extention on time needed to remove assets from Immensea.
You were in violation. Period.
Good day.
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Jade Ro
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.14 23:13:00 -
[58]
Ahh yes.. the convo pasted.. I was making an honest inquiry as to the status of a situation. I was not directly involved in the removal of IAC assets nor the planning of such. I was making a direct inquiry as to the situation I was dealing with at hand. As a Fleet Commander I was merely interested in the cyno field that was generated and the intentions of the carrier that had jumped in. So refering to that conversation in regards to this incident is out of context.
Thank you..
Navy Fleet Director - Catalyst Reaction
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Zhaine
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.14 23:15:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Katri****nski
Looks like pure theft, to me. Being as how this is RMN v CHIMP thread.
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p.s. - Does it seem LV protesteth too much in this thread?
Nah, we're just forum *****s.
Originally by: Katri****nski
And, as for IAC, casual readers may care to try and get the facts straight before reaching hasty conclusions about IAC v LV, by asking a few questions:
1) Who shot first? (LV's 3-man gank squad shot first.)
2) Who protected their gang by returning fire? (IAC's substantially larger gang returned fire.)
No, LV shot neutrals/hostiles (first, yes), IAC shot blue.
Originally by: Katri****nski
3) Did LV wait for a leader conference with IAC before making a hasty War Dec? (Seems answer is "no"... and, guess LV is just baiting for a fight?)
It's been stated that compensation requests were denied, so this means some communication at least. Either way you're clueless about LV and it's descision process and are in no position to make such a comment.
Originally by: Katri****nski
4) But, back on topic, who used LV unrelated and hasty War Dec as pretense for theft and aggression? (Well, we had to come back "on topic"... This is RMN's thread, after all...)
Errr, lol.
And post with your main (or make it clear who you are if it is)
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Jozef Meurtrier
Star Kingdom of Manticore
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Posted - 2006.07.14 23:32:00 -
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From all posts in this thread until now, reply No39 is first official statement from CHIMP and now is our turn to react.
Originally by: MoeStyles
This is as simple as this.
IAC was supposed to be gone by the 13th from Immensea. Not during or after.. By the 13th. That means no assets should have remained in Immensea by the end of the 12th and on the 13th IAC should have been gone.
No. You should ask Galde first. Final date was not 12th.
Payment snapshot with proper comment (1,5MB PNG)
Eve mail with Galde snapshot (600k PNG)
Originally by: MoeStyles
This is as simple as this.
IAC is friendly with known enemies of the coalition. Namely Red Assault Brigade for starters and IAC have been seen moving in Immensea together on several occasions by scouts and covert pilots which have been monitoring Immensea on my orders.
No. We were neutral to Red Assault Brigades (RAIDS).
In fact, RMN was paying for mining rights CHIMP but no CHIMP ship showed in this region for weeks and. Instead, there was daily presence of RAIDS as they had POS here.
RMN pilots were not asked by CHIMP to engage RAIDS.
RMN pilots were not in gang with RAIDS.
Our presence in B-R5RB had industrial character and in the time of pirate attacks there was some level of information exchange between RMN and RAIDS.
(BTW some of RAIDS are good guys, maybe all but not all of them speak english)
Originally by: MoeStyles
IAC cannot expect CHIMP to remain in a NAP when LV has declared war on IAC. CHIMP is a sworn ally of LV and when IAC violated their NAP with LV, CHIMP revoked the NAP.
No, CHIMP revoked NAP after their members taked all ships from their valid customer and ally.
Originally by: MoeStyles
Lastly, as I understand this, you're claming that there was no POS password. If you or anyone else is foolish enough to deploy a POS anywhere in the universe and you lose assets as a result, you deserve what you get. It's not an exploit.
Well, it is not an exploit. CCP should add big red "UNDER DEVELOPMENT" on POS Shield status settings in incoming patch. Becouse functions "allow corp members" and alliance members are not working properly.
Finally. I started this thread not dreaming Galde will return my hulk with all minerals I mined last two months while I was paying for it.
Let this be useful information about POS SHIELD security hijacking (SHIPS STORED IN POS WITHOUT PASSWORD SET CAN BE MOVED OUT AND CHIMP SAYS IT IS NOT AN EXPLOIT).
And about CHIMP (Galde in first place) and their partnership value.
Best Regards, Jozef Meurtrier, Star Kingdom of Manticore.
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