Aehm, can you include current stats in ( ), makes it all easier to evaluate this.

Also Nesto should be no more between 500 - 600mil, their current cost is BS

That's determined by the market. Not even CCP can dictate this under current mechanics. However, you can nudge it along, but really the price is typical of faction ships and equipment. There is no issue here.

Anyone remember Machariels costing over a bill? I do, and guess what? They don't anymore, because they're not in demand anymore. Great! Glad we understand some basic economics now. Next up, heavy inflation is bad for the little guy, mmmkay?

I disagree, since The basic costs depend on LPS and SoE have the highest and its what 600.000 mil LP ? This makes it basic 1.2 bil +. And most LP run for SoE are in High Sec, so there is your basis for it. But lets not haggle about the price while the while ship is still in a mess.

How about you take the ship and use it as is. it isn't that bad, it only costs more than it is worth.

i kinda like you idea, though i am not 100% sold on the fitting service i can see where your coming from.

The SoE line were decent exploration/covert ops ships then along came the nestor giving it a covert ops cloak would instantly make the ship op as hell. the idea of giving it a fitting service kinda works in keeping in line with the original idea of a exploration ship operation in deep space/ Wormholes

i do feel though that it would make the ship to versatile kinda like a mini carrier with that 500Mb drone bay, bonus to remote reps and a fitting service.

if it was made that the fitting service could only be used if both the nestor and ship that wants to refit were both unaggressed this should include the remote reps.

alternatively turn it into the first faction black ops

make it a black ops logistic ship.

this dea looks nice except fitting services.

for those who want it as a black-ops logistics ship hell no for that they should tweak the sin if it's really needed in my opinnion it's not.
while at it put the hull itself on hte art table again casue o nstats and looks ccp must have had a eat xtc all day theme night at work.

rebalance a bs that is what ccp can but when it comes of inventing a wheel or fire it seems a bit hard at current.
but i stay hopefull.

Ore are mostly shield tanked or rely on shields more than armour as the buffer. So armour tanking the Nestor doesn't make sense. You should use a Caldari shield bonus.

Ore are mostly shield tanked or rely on shields more than armour as the buffer. So armour tanking the Nestor doesn't make sense. You should use a Caldari shield bonus.

Why would you need to train all that to have a pirate faction black ops? You don't need to train a pile of **** to get a pirate faction cov ops or combat recon ship. (Astero/Stratios.)

Yes you would need to skill to get the Jump Portal Generator...but prior to that you could just snag a bridge from someone else.

Because having a short cut of to get into a Black Ops would be broken....

Black Ops is a Highly specialized niche that can completely **** you up.

The fact that you suggest being able to use a Black Ops with both races ships skill at level 1, well you should never fly Black Ops, go get your self some damn skill dedication and go train a f u c k ing black ops istead of b i t c h ing at CCP for an Easy access Black Ops that you always die in because you only have the ship skills at level 1.

Why would it be broken? Or maybe it needs to be. After all market dictates this is a 1.2~1.4B Isk ship. So why shouldn't it be a quick step into playing a fun type of content, that requires you pay 1.3B+Fit to play with.

Personally I think the cost of the Nestor allows for the benefit of having a quick step into Black Ops...and no I do not think that is broken.

Its either that or do one of the two things to maybe, just maybe give the nestor life (despite its inferiority in every intended role to cheaper ships).

1) Nerf SoE LP:ISK Ratio massively, thus bringing the cost down to a 600-800isk range.
2) Massively Increase the drop rate of the chip for the nestor to bring it down in price.

Black Ops logi is a no brainer. It is an unfilled role that would help change blops from just ganking into "surprise ************ "
I mean sure you could try an pigeon hole it into a spot that is already filled by something better for the price, or you can make it worth its value.

Nestor is in a nice place, but Black Ops ability would be even nicer.

*Perhaps* there is a way to make it so the ship cannot use it's jump drive without the Black Ops skill trained, but can still function otherwise.