You keep saying you would have destroyed us but remember, fight three was not on a timer. We decided to take it anyway, but only your side was aware of when it would be. On a timer, we would have formed up properly, in larger numbers since we would have know about it on advance. Now maybe wed have still lost, maybe not. Now we won't know.

What's rich is getting all this postering from a guy who didn't even fight during the war!

As for whatever you "expect" from us, I couldn't care less

What's rich is getting all this postering from a guy who didn't even fight during the war!

Euhh....you might want to check the round 2 killmails

I can't see him on there either. People have alts though so I take it a grain of salt.

I think you should also know Tora, your corpse is currently one of the highest valued items going around RvB. :D

Widershine was the FC who destroyed your feroxes. And yes, I know about the corps. And because that's fun, I have a gift for Tele soon.

He also the FC that got his entire Catalyst support fleet ganked 2 min later and then got locked inside the New Caldari stations for half an hour? :P

Well, as unflagging as your bravado seems to be, I'm merely pointing out that the people who have a say in these sort of things seemed to share my opinions of the likely outcome of a repeat engagement. Our tryout fleet pretty solidly creamed your 70+ doctrine gang, and based on the manner various ships on either side of the fight died during that engagement you would have needed somewhere near double the numbers to contest THAT fleet. Much less a reinforced timer-fleet the next day, even given timezone concerns. I could be wrong, but it's academic: the outcome of the fight would come down almost entirely to TZ shenanigans.

I'm not saying you failed or that you did badly, but the winds of fate were not with you that fight. The numbers were not there, and the weight of force was not on your end of the scales. Given the somewhat sub-optimal mix we got out of the joint fleet opposite you, it would have taken a significant escalation indeed to match the numbers we were likely to yield for the timer fleet.

I'm sure you've seen your share of rodeos, but you ain't the only clown out here.

I know the full story and I think both sides are trying to make their own story, just a bit better looking then needed. The war is over, GSE and RvB are ok with it all. If it was a war from just Marmites, then it would be my call. But since it wasn't, I will respect the current situation and move on.

And yes, we were on comms, in fleet, on the forums, in the shoutbox, in your lunch box, etc etc etc. But I guess you already knew that.

Wise words. And yes. The amount of spies we have pretty staggering. Tell me, do you ever just come on your RvB spy alts and enjoy a relaxed fight or two? If you don't you should.

I'm guessing that Iam Widdershins is a Gevlon alt.

He's probably Cosmo tbh. :P

No, that wasn't him. That was a guy who wanted more fun

Anyway the tldr is that GSE decided to end the war. Presumably they decided that this war was just business on our end, and that they had more to lose than to gain by keeping it up.

I'm guessing that Iam Widdershins is a Gevlon alt.

He's probably Cosmo tbh. :P

getting all those disparate groups to work together as a unit can't have been easy.

I didn't actually know who that was until now, but I guess I'll sub and read his stuff and see what it's all about huh.

Project Nemesis, maybe you've heard of us?

I'll still disagree that we had much of anything to lose. Any further conversation on that point is probably going to be sterile however.

We live in the same world as you, EVE is always surprising me what a small place it is. We've just not been too active the last couple years. Go back to 2009-2011, maybe during the great plague-wars of 2012, perhaps people would be more likely to recognize us.

I don't mind either way. It's fun to be feared, and it's useful to be underestimated, unknown and ignored.



Depending on how much you actually value POCOs, yeah. Individually they're pretty cheap and useless for all the fuss people buzz about them.

More blues in highsec... Ugh.

Plague wars? I have no idea what those are, but I'm kinda curious. I was active during the time you mention, and a name like that should have stuck with me. Got anything I can read on it? Unless you mean what we (RvB) used to call space aids? When uncontrollable wars were spreading through highsec?