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Cherry Yeyo 45	Posted - 2014.08.07 04:10:00 - [1] - Quote http://imgur.com/gallery/EfzOmpy Since the last thread got derailed and locked by two dudes bickering please try to stay on topic. The tpoic is highsec mercs vs. RVB. RVB won the first round but it looks like they got outshipped and blobbed on round 2. https://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=24702572 CCP Rise>Sentry drones have enormous downsides
Uppgrayyedd New Eden's Rebels 5	Posted - 2014.08.07 04:45:00 - [2] - Quote Cherry Yeyo wrote: http://imgur.com/gallery/EfzOmpy Since the last thread got derailed and locked by two dudes bickering please try to stay on topic. The tpoic is highsec mercs vs. RVB. RVB won the first round but it looks like they got outshipped and blobbed on round 2. https://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=24702572 Yeah. Rebirth sucks.
Youro Boo Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.07 05:34:00 - [3] - Quote There are multiboxers there. Lame.
Professor Clio Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 419	Posted - 2014.08.07 05:59:00 - [4] - Quote Cherry Yeyo wrote: http://imgur.com/gallery/EfzOmpy Since the last thread got derailed and locked by two dudes bickering please try to stay on topic. The topic is highsec mercs vs. RVB. RVB won the first round but it looks like they got outshipped and blobbed on round 2. https://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=24702572 I dont see any logi on the merc side, is this one cohesive fleet with one commander and one comms or does everyone bring what they want and hope it pans out? There's something off with that BR because we killed lots of BBs and exeqs before bailing in that fight. Anyway, fun war. We took the pocos we wanted, added a couple of dead POSes for good measure. Killed some dudes, lost some dudes. WTs surrendered to us last night so it'll be over in a few hours. Props to everyone involved for bringing the fights. Both sides enjoyed themseves. The GSE guys in particular where impressive. Maybe a few will join RvB after this.
flakeys Guinea pigs inc. 2389	Posted - 2014.08.07 07:36:00 - [5] - Quote Cherry Yeyo wrote: http://imgur.com/gallery/EfzOmpy Since the last thread got derailed and locked by two dudes bickering please try to stay on topic. The topic is highsec mercs vs. RVB. RVB won the first round but it looks like they got outshipped and blobbed on round 2. https://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=24702572 I dont see any logi on the merc side, is this one cohesive fleet with one commander and one comms or does everyone bring what they want and hope it pans out? Then why is your thread called '''ALL OF HIGHSEC vs. RvB'' ? You don't want people to derail a thread and your heading allready is off enough to derail it .... We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Aivo Dresden Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 360	Posted - 2014.08.07 08:41:00 - [6] - Quote Been a good war. My observations from this campaign are what they are. I've only seen Marmite around when they can muster a 100m+ fleet and then the only thing they do is reinforce some POCOs. They never really actually come around to finish them off. If I want to see them outside of such show of force, I need to go to the Jita 4-4 and ideally alone, else they'll just dock up. Galactic Skyfleet Empire on the other hand I have a lot more respect for, those guys were fun; I say that in the most respectful way possible. As for your campaign, yea I suppose Marmite & Co. 'won' when you count the actual kills. We've done double the ISK damage though and in terms of infrastructure, they've lost big. RvB kept its own intact and you guys lost a few POCOs and POSs. I don't think you should glorify your kill ratio too much there. In the end all you did was give us more targets to shoot. RvB is designed to be in a perpetual state of war and all you did was bring us more meat for the grinder. War is what we do. Thanks for the pew.
Telemachus Rheade Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 45	Posted - 2014.08.07 09:04:00 - [7] - Quote Dear "ALL OF HIGHSEC", Please war dec us. Otherwise I get bored and start reading Gevlon's blog... kthxbai
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 1120	Posted - 2014.08.07 09:44:00 - [8] - Quote Yeh was a nice fight. Good to see GSE people learning pretty fast and we had a great FC. Good fight ! https://zkillboard.com/related/30000145/201408062100/o/%7B%22A%22%3A%5B%5D%2C%22B%22%3A%5B%2299004196%22%2C%2299002802%22%2C%2299004507%22%2C%2298321919%22%2C%221680888152%22%2C%2299003763%22%2C%2299002474%22%5D%7D/ YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
gnshadowninja Visualise The Point The Pursuit of Happiness 139	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:11:00 - [9] - Quote Aivo Dresden wrote: Been a good war. My observations from this campaign are what they are. I've only seen Marmite around when they can muster a 100m+ fleet and then the only thing they do is reinforce some pocos. Thanks for the pew. You do realise in the first engagement there was equal numbers both sides and only 30 members of marmite actually in that fight, not everything in is this war is based around mermaids Extremely contradictive of a RvB player to complain about blobs when thats your number one tactic to overwhelm an enemy fleet. Good on mercs for bringing bigger numbers the second fight, cant beat em, join em. M33P
Aivo Dresden Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 361	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:18:00 - [10] - Quote gnshadowninja wrote: You do realise in the first engagement there was equal numbers both sides and only 30 members of marmite actually in that fight, not everything in is this war is based around mermaids Extremely contradictive of a RvB player to complain about blobs when thats your number one tactic to overwhelm an enemy fleet. Good on mercs for bringing bigger numbers the second fight, cant beat em, join em. I thought that was the Goons' number one tactic. :( I did not participate in all the fights, so I can't speak for every single engagement, I'm only posting my observations for the fights I did participate in. The reason I bring this up is because Marmite has been the most vocal group. I'm quite aware there's more people than just them in the war. GSE & friends represented, and that was awesome. Props to those guys, they are cool. My observation was that outside of the big "lets go reinforce some POSs" fleets, I didn't see any Marmites. I think I made it quite clear that I was quite impressed with GSE, who was very present in this war. Personally, I'd be quite happy to fly with some of those guys in the future.
Sol epoch The Death Stalkers The Marmite Collective 115	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:23:00 - [11] - Quote gnshadowninja wrote: Aivo Dresden wrote: Been a good war. My observations from this campaign are what they are. I've only seen Marmite around when they can muster a 100m+ fleet and then the only thing they do is reinforce some pocos. Thanks for the pew. You do realise in the first engagement there was equal numbers both sides and only 30 members of marmite actually in that fight, not everything in is this war is based around mermaids Extremely contradictive of a RvB player to complain about blobs when thats your number one tactic to overwhelm an enemy fleet. Good on mercs for bringing bigger numbers the second fight, cant beat em, join em. I concur with this. It was a pity that other mercs did not get involved in this as they missed out on some good fun but understandable due to some having a few problems, But one merc corp not joining due to them being petty and thinking they are too elite to join was pathetic, All in all it was fun. We should do this maybe annually.
Zemo Walden Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 12	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:28:00 - [12] - Quote gnshadowninja wrote: Aivo Dresden wrote: Been a good war. My observations from this campaign are what they are. I've only seen Marmite around when they can muster a 100m+ fleet and then the only thing they do is reinforce some pocos. Thanks for the pew. You do realise in the first engagement there was equal numbers both sides and only 30 members of marmite actually in that fight, not everything in is this war is based around mermaids Extremely contradictive of a RvB player to complain about blobs when thats your number one tactic to overwhelm an enemy fleet. Good on mercs for bringing bigger numbers the second fight, cant beat em, join em. The fight last night we were out numbered 2:1 and Marmite brought out loads more Logi and ECM, but doesn't really matter anyway. Has been a really fun war this past week, been nice to see GSE being so cool about it too. We have had some really nice chats with GSE guys during this war. RvB pretty much got what they set out to do, with the Jita part of GSE disbanding from the alliance (which we didn't set out to do!).
gnshadowninja Visualise The Point The Pursuit of Happiness 139	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:29:00 - [13] - Quote @Aivo I see what you mean now, most merc alliances also have other contracts running so juggling it requires between the RvB war and other contracts is piossibly why you didn't see them :) @Sol I was aware that Forsaken and another merc entity did have a current war going on which made things awkward :/ @Zemo Yes they brought more numbers and were alot more organized, I did predict this in the other thread that the first fight was literally the beginning.... its a shame the war is coming to an end. Anyone got the footage yet? M33P
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 1121	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:40:00 - [14] - Quote Lol, I think Marmite brought 2 Guardians, because the fc wanted more RR and less dps. But he, keep thinking that we did. Fear is always a good weapon in battles. EVIL MERMAIDS, they come in the thousands, bring 10x more RR and ECM, they can blow up trade hubs with their farts too *FART* DAMN ! The forums just exploded. We did have a little surprise waiting for the RvB fc's this time, which even the fleet didnt know about. Spieszzzz everywhere ! YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 4042	Posted - 2014.08.07 12:06:00 - [15] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: We did have a little surprise waiting for the RvB fc's this time, which even the fleet didnt know about. Spieszzzz everywhere ! Wait... You guys managed to get spies into RvB? Maybe I've misjudged you, you must be spymasters of a high degree at least. I mean really, how did you get past their vetting process? Just look at their list of super strict requirements to join: - Have a character in EVE The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Professor Clio Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 421	Posted - 2014.08.07 12:07:00 - [16] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: Spieszzzz everywhere ! Especially in RvB, our screening procedures consist of hitting the "accept corp application" button. But that's OK, I reckon the spies have fun in our fleets and stay afterwards
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 1121	Posted - 2014.08.07 12:31:00 - [17] - Quote Wasnt talking about having spies in RvB. Thats easy. They even kick you and allow you back in the other alliance. I was talking about the RvB spies in our fleets. YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
Professor Clio Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 421	Posted - 2014.08.07 12:43:00 - [18] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: Wasnt talking about having spies in RvB. Thats easy. They even kick you and allow you back in the other alliance. I was talking about the RvB spies in our fleets. You give us too much credit tora. We're much too lazy to use spies. (Then again that's what I'd say if we did use spies!)
Kev Ftw The Filthy Few Break-A-Wish Foundation 25	Posted - 2014.08.07 12:51:00 - [19] - Quote Sol epoch wrote: [quote=gnshadowninja][quote=Aivo Dresden]But one merc corp not joining due to them being petty and thinking they are too elite to join was pathetic, Thinking we're 'too elite' has nothing to do with it. When we looked at the war reports from the first battles it was an obvious clusterfuck with Mercs throwing ships at the enemy, having no real fleet doctrine or logi. The numbers were around 10B+ lost versus only several billion destroyed if I remember correctly. Doesn't really fill you with confidence does it? The next day we were made aware of an RvB fleet in Jita consisting of what I believe were Rail Thoraxes, Caracals and Scythes. We gathered the few we had online and made our way to a pounce, prepared to warp in and engage even with it being on the undock. However it became quickly apparent that GSE were expecting us to engage as the primary force, despite being outnumbered, and drop logi to save the rag tag battleships and T3's they were undocking and losing. Sorry but **** that. The fight yesterday that the Merc side won occurred with only two of us online due to timezone difference so we had no idea anything was happening. Hope that clears things up.
Arjar Ammar Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 9	Posted - 2014.08.07 12:57:00 - [20] - Quote Kev Ftw wrote: Sol epoch wrote: [quote=gnshadowninja][quote=Aivo Dresden]But one merc corp not joining due to them being petty and thinking they are too elite to join was pathetic, Thinking we're 'too elite' has nothing to do with it. When we looked at the war reports from the first battles it was an obvious clusterfuck with Mercs throwing ships at the enemy, having no real fleet doctrine or logi. The numbers were around 10B+ lost versus only several billion destroyed if I remember correctly. Doesn't really fill you with confidence does it? The next day we were made aware of an RvB fleet in Jita consisting of what I believe were Rail Thoraxes, Caracals and Scythes. We gathered the few we had online and made our way to a pounce, prepared to warp in and engage even with it being on the undock. However it became quickly apparent that GSE were expecting us to engage as the primary force, despite being outnumbered, and drop logi to save the rag tag battleships and T3's they were undocking and losing. Sorry but **** that. The fight yesterday that the Merc side won occurred with only two of us online due to timezone difference so we had no idea anything was happening. Hope that clears things up. If that was the fight on the 4-4 undock then you need to sack whoever was providing you intel - we had shipped into a mostly Cruiser down kitchen sink fleet - oh and you've also been kind enough to let us know something about the behind the scenes shenanigans that were going on - thanks for that. Your pride seems to be more important than op sec - nice to know for people who want to use you in future!
Kev Ftw The Filthy Few Break-A-Wish Foundation 25	Posted - 2014.08.07 13:03:00 - [21] - Quote Last time I checked Thoraxes, Caracals and Scythes were Cruisers. Maybe I'm mistaken. Also what Op-Sec? That intel channels and TeamSpeak exists?
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 1121	Posted - 2014.08.07 13:21:00 - [22] - Quote Was surprised to see Marmites killed more ships and isks then RvB in this very nice war But it was very close : http://purple.rvbeve.com/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=162 YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
Aivo Dresden Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 362	Posted - 2014.08.07 13:28:00 - [23] - Quote I must admit, I couldn't believe me eyes when I saw you lads in New Caldari. Would have sworn you were just on your way to Jita, but you were actually shooting people there.
Professor Clio Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 422	Posted - 2014.08.07 13:33:00 - [24] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: Was surprised to see Marmites killed more ships and isks then RvB in this very nice war But it was very close : http://purple.rvbeve.com/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=162 (copy/paste url) I'm not, there's by definition a lot of let's called them less than experienced pilots in RvB who don't know it's not a good idea to mission while at war or to take their full hauler into Jita with marmite in system. I believe at the start of the other thread I predicted we'd end up losing the ISK war against marmite. Still, we're up 2-1 ISK wise when you lump all the WTs together so we're happy with the result.
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 1121	Posted - 2014.08.07 13:42:00 - [25] - Quote Agree. RvB won the overall war, because I think isks says more then kills. Most kills : GSE / Mercs Mosts isks : RvB Won the war : RvB Fun : RvB, GSE and Mercs for sure ! Marmite got dunked......nehh.... YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
Sol epoch The Death Stalkers The Marmite Collective 115	Posted - 2014.08.07 13:56:00 - [26] - Quote Kev Ftw wrote: Sol epoch wrote: [quote=gnshadowninja][quote=Aivo Dresden]But one merc corp not joining due to them being petty and thinking they are too elite to join was pathetic, Thinking we're 'too elite' has nothing to do with it. When we looked at the war reports from the first battles it was an obvious clusterfuck with Mercs throwing ships at the enemy, having no real fleet doctrine or logi. The numbers were around 10B+ lost versus only several billion destroyed if I remember correctly. Doesn't really fill you with confidence does it? The next day we were made aware of an RvB fleet in Jita consisting of what I believe were Rail Thoraxes, Caracals and Scythes. We gathered the few we had online and made our way to a pounce, prepared to warp in and engage even with it being on the undock. However it became quickly apparent that GSE were expecting us to engage as the primary force, despite being outnumbered, and drop logi to save the rag tag battleships and T3's they were undocking and losing. Sorry but **** that. The fight yesterday that the Merc side won occurred with only two of us online due to timezone difference so we had no idea anything was happening. Hope that clears things up. Good to know who you can rely on for the future though.
Professor Clio Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 422	Posted - 2014.08.07 14:07:00 - [27] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: Fun : RvB, GSE and Mercs for sure ! And that's the important part. Reminded me of our Uni wars actually. With extra POCO repping ops
flakeys Guinea pigs inc. 2392	Posted - 2014.08.07 14:26:00 - [28] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: Was surprised to see Marmites killed more ships and isks then RvB in this very nice war But it was very close : http://purple.rvbeve.com/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=162 (copy/paste url) Wich is only logical given that if you fielded the 2 fleets against each other you would only have RvB to shoot while RvB had a lot different alliances to shoot. Next time only send 1 marmite along and let him just hit everything once , that'll shoot efficiency through the ROOF . We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Solitary Pal The Filthy Few Break-A-Wish Foundation 39	Posted - 2014.08.07 14:34:00 - [29] - Quote Confirming that marmite should never rely on break-a-wish. You get upset when we kill out and you get upset when we refuse to throw our ships into a ragtag meat grinder. I have a monocle therefore my opinion matters more than yours.
Sol epoch The Death Stalkers The Marmite Collective 115	Posted - 2014.08.07 15:03:00 - [30] - Quote Solitary Pal wrote: Confirming that marmite should never rely on break-a-wish. You get upset when we kill you and you get upset when we refuse to throw our ships into a ragtag meat grinder. Firstly I did not mention any specific Merc corp or alliance in my initial post and secondly, I was not talking exclusively with regard to Marmite in further posts. I do find it ironic that you feel the need to jump in and attempt damage control and finger pointing at Marmite.

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