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rikergrl
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:00:00 -
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PLZ just sit still! 4 times they left the battle and lost lock and vid. |

Stamm
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:09:00 -
[2]
Yep, WTS them sensor boosters :P
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:25:00 -
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Also lots of talking-out-of-their-behinds
Reinventing the Eve lottery system! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=361726 |

SolApathy
Guardians of Hell's Gate
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:27:00 -
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LoL and pirate implants are not allowed, nor are faction mods, did these commentators read the same rules as me, because the ones i saw said that they werent allowed.
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rikergrl
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:28:00 -
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turn off your sounds youll help w/ the lag. :) lagg 4tw. |

ParMizaN
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: SolApathy LoL and pirate implants are not allowed, nor are faction mods, did these commentators read the same rules as me, because the ones i saw said that they werent allowed.
Pirate implants ARE allowed
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rikergrl
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:29:00 -
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t1 raven 4TW.. and smash to give you a light tap. |

Stamm
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:30:00 -
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I thought pirate implants were allowed?
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SolApathy
Guardians of Hell's Gate
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:30:00 -
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did the rules change?
since we didnt enter i only read an early copy of the rules did they change it?
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SengH
Black Omega Security E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:31:00 -
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prolly talking out of their ass... he called a jag an inty earlier...
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SolApathy
Guardians of Hell's Gate
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:34:00 -
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does any1 have quick link to the rules, wanna see them because seems few things have changed since i read them.
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rikergrl
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:34:00 -
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CONGRATS TO TRUK!!!!!!!! he renewed my faith in caldari ravens.. |

ParMizaN
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: SolApathy does any1 have quick link to the rules, wanna see them because seems few things have changed since i read them.
Pirate implants have been allowed since the beginning afaik, faction mods were not.
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rikergrl
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:40:00 -
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i want that guys raven setup.... and for new ppl on eve tv these guys are nubs.!!!!!!!!!! |

SolApathy
Guardians of Hell's Gate
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:40:00 -
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hmm ok, if any1 does have rules id like to see them again and off topic whats going on with eve-search its just got a list or ore types 
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Stamm
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:46:00 -
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Is now the time to start my campaign to get slave implants changed to %age armour repped? :)
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SolApathy
Guardians of Hell's Gate
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:48:00 -
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the raven wasnt setup good if u ask me, but it was actually smash who didnt pack enough damage. i think they were setup too defensively
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rikergrl
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:52:00 -
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seems like ppl cant focus fire in this toruny. that our there FC's suck. |

BillyBong2
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:53:00 -
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WHere is the written commentary? Some of us can not access as we are at work again during the tournament :( _________________________
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Sku1ly
STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.14 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: BillyBong2 WHere is the written commentary? Some of us can not access as we are at work again during the tournament :(
They can't commentate.
They called a Vulture a Vigilant. Jaguary Minmatar Interceptor and they havn't heard of most alliances!
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ching'sta
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.14 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sku1ly
Originally by: BillyBong2 WHere is the written commentary? Some of us can not access as we are at work again during the tournament :(
They can't commentate.
They called a Vulture a Vigilant. Jaguary Minmatar Interceptor and they havn't heard of most alliances!
omg thats horrible what should we do!! this is outrageus! this is insane! it maters so much
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SengH
Black Omega Security E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.07.14 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: ching'sta
Originally by: Sku1ly
Originally by: BillyBong2 WHere is the written commentary? Some of us can not access as we are at work again during the tournament :(
They can't commentate.
They called a Vulture a Vigilant. Jaguary Minmatar Interceptor and they havn't heard of most alliances!
omg thats horrible what should we do!! this is outrageus! this is insane! it maters so much
After he got slagged so much during the first pvp tourney... you'd think he'd improve.
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Aoun
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.14 21:48:00 -
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Credit to the guys doing it this time, made few mistakes and are clear / precise.
Think your all being a little picky to criticise them for the few misunderstandings they have had. The whole setup is 10x better than last time, eve-tv is superb and looks surprisingly professional :P
Will be torn between listening to this or the cricket over the weekend. YES I HAVE NO LIFE.
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:01:00 -
[24]
Yeah, it was awesome!
THE PEOPLE WANT MORE !!!!
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rikergrl
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:02:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Aoun Credit to the guys doing it this time, made few mistakes and are clear / precise.
Think your all being a little picky to criticise them for the few misunderstandings they have had. The whole setup is 10x better than last time, eve-tv is superb and looks surprisingly professional :P
Will be torn between listening to this or the cricket over the weekend. YES I HAVE NO LIFE.
a few lil ones LMFAO.. 1st -not knowing who is who in the tourny is a BIG DEAL! 2nd - NOT knowing the ships in the game you are covering is a BIG DEAL!! 3rd - the eve tv is cool they should do more of it.. ( say for special events.) 4th -the camra man that keeps loseing the ships.. omg they lost it like 4 times just in the time i watched it. 5th- most of them where talking out their rear, and for the part about surprisingly professional .. humm .. lol welcome to the world of lagg comminators. if helps if you turn off your sound, while running pvp. but then again that is what eve is known for LAG and lockups!! |

Velios
M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:21:00 -
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be quiet please, really. |

Xelios
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: rikergrl
Originally by: Aoun Credit to the guys doing it this time, made few mistakes and are clear / precise.
Think your all being a little picky to criticise them for the few misunderstandings they have had. The whole setup is 10x better than last time, eve-tv is superb and looks surprisingly professional :P
Will be torn between listening to this or the cricket over the weekend. YES I HAVE NO LIFE.
4th -the camra man that keeps loseing the ships.. omg they lost it like 4 times just in the time i watched it. 5th- most of them where talking out their rear, and for the part about surprisingly professional .. humm .. lol welcome to the world of lagg comminators. if helps if you turn off your sound, while running pvp. but then again that is what eve is known for LAG and lockups!!
4 is because the ships the commentators were flying were rigged to do 4km/s, and speaking from experience when you're doing a lot of clicking around doing Look At's and adjusting camera angles it's very easy to accidently make your ship move in some random direction. I won't fault them for that, just a bad idea to put that much speed on a camera ship.
5 I don't care about, they could be as unprofessional as they want so long as it's entertaining.
I'd guess the lockups had more to do with the streaming and special clients they were using, I was frapsing for the SA team with sound on and had no lag at all, no lockups, nothing.
Though I'd love to get my hands on that client without the UI they were using, and Gregg's special FRAPsing / commands he talked about 
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CamMan
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.14 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: rikergrl
a few lil ones LMFAO.. 1st -not knowing who is who in the tourny is a BIG DEAL! 2nd - NOT knowing the ships in the game you are covering is a BIG DEAL!! 3rd - the eve tv is cool they should do more of it.. ( say for special events.) 4th -the camra man that keeps loseing the ships.. omg they lost it like 4 times just in the time i watched it. 5th- most of them where talking out their rear, and for the part about surprisingly professional .. humm .. lol welcome to the world of lagg comminators. if helps if you turn off your sound, while running pvp. but then again that is what eve is known for LAG and lockups!!
you my friend are an idiot, plain and simple.
The commentators are doing a reasonable job, whilst obviously not up to yuor illustrious standards, the vast majority of EVE think they are doing a good job.
Oh and just to clarify a few things to the whinger and whiner, 1) there are so many alliances in game, that even if you have heard the name before doesnt mean you know them. I think there was 195 alliances last time i looked, do you know them all? ..... No? well stfu then.
2) they obviously know they ships, otherwise the commentry would be like "the two bigger ships from the left is now sending light packets to the little ship on the right" etc. They slipped up in name a couple of times, so what big deal get over it and stfu.
3) Yes EVE tv is cool, we agree there.
4) Camera man made some errors, but their original broadcast setup didnt need him to lock targets, so not surprised if he didnt have a SB fitted, when the original had problems, then he had to change to locking people. Give the man a break.
5) You try and commentate on what we were looking at and see if you make some mistakes too. And those panel of 3 are very well known and experienced in game players. So i think it is you talking out your rear.
Long post i know but whingers and whiners ftl
Originally by: Bender Interesting, no the other one ... tedious
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d'hofren
Galactic Exploration and Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2006.07.14 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: rikergrl
Originally by: Aoun Credit to the guys doing it this time, made few mistakes and are clear / precise.
Think your all being a little picky to criticise them for the few misunderstandings they have had. The whole setup is 10x better than last time, eve-tv is superb and looks surprisingly professional :P
Will be torn between listening to this or the cricket over the weekend. YES I HAVE NO LIFE.
a few lil ones LMFAO.. 1st -not knowing who is who in the tourny is a BIG DEAL! 2nd - NOT knowing the ships in the game you are covering is a BIG DEAL!! 3rd - the eve tv is cool they should do more of it.. ( say for special events.) 4th -the camra man that keeps loseing the ships.. omg they lost it like 4 times just in the time i watched it. 5th- most of them where talking out their rear, and for the part about surprisingly professional .. humm .. lol welcome to the world of lagg comminators. if helps if you turn off your sound, while running pvp. but then again that is what eve is known for LAG and lockups!!
for heavens sake I still get, "ummm, is that a hac or an assualt frig" moments now and thats after two ruddy years. Tell me who doesn't sit in space and get, "umm I know that ticker from somewhere, shouldn't they be blue" moments every so often. As for loosing the ships, I have(nt) seen goals scored while the camerman was focusing elsewhere in premiership football before now.
They are doing a stirling job. This isn't the bbc, it's a MMORPG with 20k or so active players every night.
Go Eve TV. I had a great night with a glass of white or three, fish and chips and eve TV.
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deadEd
Catalyst Reaction Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.07.15 00:02:00 -
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Maybe it's just me, but I think the simple fact that it's covered in such a way and broadcasted is totally awesome. Sure, there's room for improvement, but I don't think they really outright hurt the quality of the broadcast as a whole.
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Stamm
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.15 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: deadEd Maybe it's just me, but I think the simple fact that it's covered in such a way and broadcasted is totally awesome. Sure, there's room for improvement, but I don't think they really outright hurt the quality of the broadcast as a whole.
That basically sums it up.
As it stands it's great, but there's plenty of room for improvement.
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror
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Posted - 2006.07.15 00:14:00 -
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Are there will be written commentaries ? Galaxion of Black Nova Corp did awesome job during last tourney. Dude, we need your service very badly 
Let me explain. For 1mb of used internet traffic - i`m paying 5 cents. I heard, that broadcast running on 460kb\s speed. That means, that i`ll be paying 1$ per 3 minutes, roughly. Unfortunately, i don`t **** bilionaire`s daughter, so - basicly tourney is closed for me, and all i can do - is watch @ results.
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Semkhet
KR0M The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.07.15 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: rikergrl
a few lil ones LMFAO.. 1st -not knowing who is who in the tourny is a BIG DEAL! 2nd - NOT knowing the ships in the game you are covering is a BIG DEAL!! 3rd - the eve tv is cool they should do more of it.. ( say for special events.) 4th -the camra man that keeps loseing the ships.. omg they lost it like 4 times just in the time i watched it. 5th- most of them where talking out their rear, and for the part about surprisingly professional .. humm .. lol welcome to the world of lagg comminators. if helps if you turn off your sound, while running pvp. but then again that is what eve is known for LAG and lockups!!
Funny how there's always some smartass coming from I don't know which sorry black hole and pretends enlightening the masses with his omniscience.
Why don't you start with a tiny nugget of common sense ? Taking into account that this wasn't an exercise people train daily for, it was done very decently.
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.15 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Velios be quiet please, really.
what he said
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IcedBach Jr
Priory Of The Lemon Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.07.15 02:44:00 -
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I think everyone did a great job in the part I saw, commentary was nice, interviews nice.
Good job.
btw Stavros does not look like the titan he was supposed to look like :), and Infi looks lik a BOB. Praeludium to success |

Nebuli
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 03:07:00 -
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Personaly thought the entire thing was amazing, realy enjoyable, both myself and my wife were sat on the edges of our seats and loved every minute of it.
If we were to be critical the only things I'd say are in need of improvement (bearing in mind its freaking awesome as it is imo) would be....
The camera work was good, but the picture was VERY dark,
Commentators got a few things wrong, but no big deal realy, made it amusing more than anything,
The camera guys/commentators need a different ship, the one they have is just FAR to fast and as happend alot they end up double clicking which is EASILY done and fly off in a random direction losing locks, in fact give them something with a kind of siege mode so they can lock themselves in position so they cant move.
Other than that was awesome, oh wait, one thing the wife and myself got a little upset about was the timelimit thing, we thought it was quite unfair that the tempest on his own managed to stay alive untill the 15mins had passed and they allowed it to continue, then again with the famous heavy tanked raven, that guy deserved to have won a draw surely.
We know the rules state that extensions can be given etc, but why even bother having a time limit if its going to be ignored everytime?
Sorry to have even typed a moan about the event in any way because frankly it was amazing, wasnt realy interested in the tournement AT ALL to start with untill someone almost forced me to log on, then we were hooked, reason for no interest is the allowed use of ub3r implants, makes it more like most ISK = wins tbh, and also provides a BIG boost to the shield tankers.
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INZi
Species 5618
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Posted - 2006.07.15 06:17:00 -
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i've got a solution: dont watch it and stop beyochin!
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Max Teranous
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.15 07:16:00 -
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I'm loving the tournie setup - for people who are just keen volunteers how they are doing is absolutely fantastic.
I've hooked up the computer to the TV - 32" explosions FTW 
Max 
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Stuart Ward
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.15 08:16:00 -
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Wathed this for the first time last night, and as a free addon to an already great game, we really shouldn't complain.
But why have Stavros in the post match discussions ? He openly admitted last night that he hadn't been engaging in Fleet combat for ages, so he had nothing to say about setups or tactics.
Stu
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Shintoko Akahoshi
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.07.15 08:41:00 -
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Sure there were mistakes made, but all in all they did a far better job than the commentators at the first toury.
That said, it would be nice if the footage were brighter - I had my monitor brightness cranked up all the way and it was still too dark. Using something slower than that yacht - say a Megathron with 7 1600mm plates - for the camera ship might be an improvement, too.
The Red Mom of WarÖ
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Wild Rho
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.15 09:05:00 -
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I really enjoyed it and I think as the folks involved get more experience and confidence the quality of the show will improve alot.
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your ass will be laminated. - Jennie Marlboro
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Uther Doull
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.15 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Uther Doull on 15/07/2006 11:12:59
Originally by: Evil Thug Edited by: Evil Thug on 15/07/2006 00:18:36 Are there will be written commentaries ? Galaxion of Black Nova Corp did awesome job during last tourney. Dude, we need your service very badly 
Let me explain. For 1mb of used internet traffic - i`m paying 5 cents. I heard, that broadcast running on 460kb\s speed. That means, that i`ll be paying 1.5$ per 1 minute, roughly. Unfortunately, i don`t **** bilionaire`s daughter, so - basicly tourney is closed for me, and all i can do - is watch @ results.
EDIT : Yes, my math sucks 
actually ET, it's 460 kilobits per second, not bytes. that's a factor 8 difference, so you would be paying roughly 16 cent per minute, or $10.10 per hour. and believe me, it's worth it!
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Velios
M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.15 11:13:00 -
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Crank up the brightness on windows media player (View > Video Settings) and the fights are a lot easier to see.
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror
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Posted - 2006.07.15 11:47:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Uther Doull
actually ET, it's 460 kilobits per second, not bytes. that's a factor 8 difference, so you would be paying roughly 16 cent per minute, or $10.10 per hour. and believe me, it's worth it!
Hm, that change picture. Thanks for comment. I guess i`ll be watching tourney today 
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Mopar
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 11:53:00 -
[45]
Originally by: rikergrl
Originally by: Aoun Credit to the guys doing it this time, made few mistakes and are clear / precise.
Think your all being a little picky to criticise them for the few misunderstandings they have had. The whole setup is 10x better than last time, eve-tv is superb and looks surprisingly professional :P
Will be torn between listening to this or the cricket over the weekend. YES I HAVE NO LIFE.
a few lil ones LMFAO.. 1st -not knowing who is who in the tourny is a BIG DEAL! 2nd - NOT knowing the ships in the game you are covering is a BIG DEAL!! 3rd - the eve tv is cool they should do more of it.. ( say for special events.) 4th -the camra man that keeps loseing the ships.. omg they lost it like 4 times just in the time i watched it. 5th- most of them where talking out their rear, and for the part about surprisingly professional .. humm .. lol welcome to the world of lagg comminators. if helps if you turn off your sound, while running pvp. but then again that is what eve is known for LAG and lockups!!
Jackass 
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Recluse Viramor
Chosen Path Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.07.15 12:00:00 -
[46]
So far i think eve-tv is doing great, a huge improvement in announcing from the last tournament. I like the custom client that shows both teams side by side. My only gripe is you can't really see much but they got better at that as they day went on with some good camera work. Oh and I was suprised none of the commmentators didn't know a thing about morsus mihi and really didn't give em any respect. Need a commmentator from the northern regions.
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Eefrit
VakAtioth
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Posted - 2006.07.15 13:34:00 -
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The point of it is to entertain. Who gives a rats arse if there are some inaccuracies when it was fun to watch and a heck of a lot better than the last one. Besides, laughing at the comments adds some humor the the proceedings The streaming was smooooooooth and the audio crystal clear.
Keep it up guys!
/Eefrit
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The Jok3r
Hookers From Mars
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Posted - 2006.07.15 22:15:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Evil Thug Edited by: Evil Thug on 15/07/2006 00:18:36 Are there will be written commentaries ? Galaxion of Black Nova Corp did awesome job during last tourney. Dude, we need your service very badly 
Let me explain. For 1mb of used internet traffic - i`m paying 5 cents. I heard, that broadcast running on 460kb\s speed. That means, that i`ll be paying 1.5$ per 1 minute, roughly. Unfortunately, i don`t **** bilionaire`s daughter, so - basicly tourney is closed for me, and all i can do - is watch @ results.
EDIT : Yes, my math sucks 
Sell more isk...
(somebody had to)
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.16 00:14:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Crellion on 16/07/2006 00:15:11 Edited by: Crellion on 16/07/2006 00:14:22 Eve TV is great.
Still I wouldnt mind them getting one of the competitiors (on a day/time they are not competing) to provide commentary and some insight on what is happening and why.
I saw today a poor close range Vampa domi getting webbed out of range by a Rapier or Hugin and they were wondering for like 3 mins "what is his tactic" then one of them explained that it was webbed and couldnt use its mwd to get in range (despite being webbed) because it would waste a lot of cap  
I am not saying what they are doing now isnt absolutely great but adding a player who pvps regularly in the team would help further...
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Koronos
Interstellar eXodus
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Posted - 2006.07.16 02:24:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Koronos on 16/07/2006 02:28:17 Well, that's why we get the experts back in the commentary room after the fight. Tbh, as long as the djs can keep the targets locked and keep the custom display going so we can see health bars for all ships, we're golden. And, they are getting better at those two, so it will be okay. ;)
Koronos
edit: one nice thing for the future, next tourney or whatever, would be to have the tactical overlay so we could see ship ranges. In the infamous webbed domi event, I gathered from the fact that the domi wasn't doing anything and IAC had a rapier that that was what was happening, but there were only a couple of seconds of footage where I could really _see_ that that was probably correct. Anyway, just something that would be fun to see down the road.
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.16 03:06:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Uther Doull
actually ET, it's 460 kilobits per second, not bytes. that's a factor 8 difference, so you would be paying roughly 16 cent per minute, or $10.10 per hour. and believe me, it's worth it!
Hm, that change picture. Thanks for comment. I guess i`ll be watching tourney today 
yay more veiwers! i dont like your sig tho... not at all! 
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Moghydin
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.07.16 04:12:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Moghydin on 16/07/2006 04:12:30 Don't know if it's the problem on my PC or many ppl have this, but when I see a battle and a camera is at some distance (like at the beginning of the fight), I can actually see a battle. But when camera is going for some close ups, all I can see is a series of screenshots, which hardly can be called TV feed.
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