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oohthey ioh
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2014.08.12 16:45:00 -
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Nope, not support.
you need a consequence for loosing your pod, and when I move my stuff around I take in to account med bays locations, it add gameplay.
I could risk loosing SP pionts by setting my clone in a station with no medbay, to rejoin the fight sooner.
If anything it would be cool to pre-buy death clones, so if I know i'm going be spending a week in null with a lot of pvp action i could pre-buy 20 clones. and not to worry till i loose the 19th clone. |
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
258
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Posted - 2014.08.12 16:54:00 -
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oohthey ioh wrote:you need a consequence for loosing your pod
Explain to my why implant loss - either directly, or pre-emptively by not using them thus losing SP every tick isn't a consequence. |
Michael Ignis Archangel
Caveat Emptor Technologies LP
Spaceship Samurai
48
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Posted - 2014.08.12 17:05:00 -
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Not supported. It's one of the very rare ways to balance the new/old player imbalance. With 100+m SP, your capabilities should make the ISK cost trivial. |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
1181
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Posted - 2014.08.12 17:08:00 -
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Michael Ignis Archangel wrote:Not supported. It's one of the very rare ways to balance the new/old player imbalance. With 100+m SP, your capabilities should make the ISK cost trivial.
Why even put it there if it's trivial? |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
305
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Posted - 2014.08.12 17:10:00 -
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Michael Ignis Archangel wrote:Not supported. It's one of the very rare ways to balance the new/old player imbalance. With 100+m SP, your capabilities should make the ISK cost trivial.
That's a faulty assumption. High SP do not make high income, they can of course, but correlation does not make causation. High SP don't cause great amounts of ISK to appear - so one can blow them to bits again
Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4266
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Posted - 2014.08.12 17:30:00 -
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Make it a monthly subscription instead of a per death cost. Then all those not dying that month pay for the clones of those dying over and over again.
Sovereignty and Population
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Sethris
Svea Rike
Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2014.08.13 07:27:00 -
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Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Michael Ignis Archangel wrote:Not supported. It's one of the very rare ways to balance the new/old player imbalance. With 100+m SP, your capabilities should make the ISK cost trivial. That's a faulty assumption. High SP do not make high income, they can of course, but correlation does not make causation. High SP don't cause great amounts of ISK to appear - so one can blow them to bits again
While a certain amount of SPs is needed to generate income, it doesn't scale linear. If you can fly the best ratting ship with 20m SPs, the other 100m doesn't help you that much. But you still get punished for you ability to fly different ships. |
oohthey ioh
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2014.08.13 09:39:00 -
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afkalt wrote:oohthey ioh wrote:you need a consequence for loosing your pod Explain to my why implant loss - either directly, or pre-emptively by not using them thus losing SP every tick isn't a consequence.
Whats stopping form flying my toon with no implants and not caring if i get podded or not? |
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
260
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Posted - 2014.08.13 09:49:00 -
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oohthey ioh wrote:afkalt wrote:oohthey ioh wrote:you need a consequence for loosing your pod Explain to my why implant loss - either directly, or pre-emptively by not using them thus losing SP every tick isn't a consequence. Whats stopping form flying my toon with no implants and not caring if i get podded or not?
Nothing. But you're less combat effective and train slower.
You're telling me that is not paying a price up front?
It's like a down payment on the consequences. |
oohthey ioh
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2014.08.13 09:59:00 -
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afkalt wrote:oohthey ioh wrote:afkalt wrote:oohthey ioh wrote:you need a consequence for loosing your pod Explain to my why implant loss - either directly, or pre-emptively by not using them thus losing SP every tick isn't a consequence. Whats stopping form flying my toon with no implants and not caring if i get podded or not? Nothing. But you're less combat effective and train slower. You're telling me that is not paying a price up front? It's like a down payment on the consequences.
so an industrialist toon that is not skill training, has a free pass to pod it self and go to any station in game where the corp has an office?
Or if i need to pass though WH space or null, i can warp gate to gate/hole to hole with out having to worry about a consequence?
Not everybody has implants, I don't fly in null/WHs with implants in unless they are cheap, I need a consequence for dying. or there is no risk.
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afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
260
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Posted - 2014.08.13 10:16:00 -
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You're fundamentally missing my point and I can't see how I can make it any clearer.
Furthermore, unless you're trying to bump people in your pod ther are already consequences for dying - ship and module loss. Do we really need a "comabt tax" on null/WH? |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
306
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Posted - 2014.08.13 10:21:00 -
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oohthey ioh wrote:so an industrialist toon that is not skill training, has a free pass to pod it self and go to any station in game where the corp has an office?
Or if i need to pass though WH space or null, i can warp gate to gate/hole to hole with out having to worry about a consequence?
Not everybody has implants, I don't fly in null/WHs with implants in unless they are cheap, I need a consequence for dying. or there is no risk.
Three sentences - Three strawmen
You are being willfully ignorant or willfully stupid, either way ... what afkalt said.
Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
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