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Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.16 19:21:00 - [1] I must say. I've never seen such a weak group of players in my life, living in what should be a very harsh enviroment. The Region is undefended and yet nothing more than the typical duo or treo of PvP hunters pass through. I've never seen any type of invasion attempt or large scale attack. I've seen nights where only 1 or 2 enemy would intrude and score as many as 25 kills in a few hours. All while being chased by goofball mob of ragtag players. Omist is -LV- territory, you say. . . LOL, yea right. The only time you'll ever see -LV- is if they want to hog the systems to PvE or if they are moving a Freighter full of cheap empire stock to sell in Omist at 20 times it's value. . . . Here is a tip, for anyone thinking of invading Omist. . . It's no doubt that if invaded, most Alliances in Omist will:::: Flee Omist to avoid heavy conflict. Since they are Mining/Industrial only and noone, but -LV-, owns any of the Stations, Outposts and POSs in Omist. or Give the invading force their loyalty, for hopes of a better and more honest living in Omist. I'm sure if the Officers of many of the Alliances are contacted, many will agree to accept a change in power in Omist. Incuding this Officer. . . . . -LV- has become the cradle for all carebears and that cradle is becoming weak. . . . We want that cradle smashed and all carebears out of Omist.
Ripline	Posted - 2006.07.16 19:24:00 - [2] Edited by: Ripline on 16/07/2006 19:25:12 Not to rain on anyone's parade.. but isn't this in the wrong forum ? And if you're talking about "we" taking on a sizable alliance it'd be a lil more credible if you posted your affiliation, to the best of my knowledge the imperial academy never invaded anyone.
Fliewatuet Angelus dos Business	Posted - 2006.07.16 19:26:00 - [3] Tells us an alt in a noob corp... do me a favor, next time, do it better than this. ;) -- If i win your auction, please be so kind and send me an evemail to remind me :-) NPC infos? Calculating DPS for a mission? Have a look at http://eve.neodoomer.de/npc/ and have fun.
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.16 19:36:00 - [4] I do not mention "we" taking control over Omist. "We" hope for a change in power. Why? Because Omist is full of carebears that keep moving into Omist. Thay mooch off of the rich lands that "we" have fought for, so long ago. The "we" have become too few and are in a position that requires outside intervention. Why use my alt ? So that my main on the other account remains in it's place of hard earned power. . . .
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.07.16 19:38:00 - [5] K noob.. I live in Omist, and this is utterly bull****. Poverty
Murukan Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.16 19:38:00 - [6] Edited by: Murukan on 16/07/2006 19:38:11 omist is full of easy prey this is true. LV doesn't mind though as long as they keep payin the rent, they let them do their own thing. Something tells me you bring an invading force though and LV will bring down the hammer on you In rust we trust!!!
Lig Vieta Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.16 19:46:00 - [7] Your words have inspired me to action. I will bring an invasion force next week. Are you with me, brother?
Mogrin	Posted - 2006.07.16 19:51:00 - [8] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen I must say. I've never seen such a weak group of players in my life, living in what should be a very harsh enviroment. The Region is undefended and yet nothing more than the typical duo or treo of PvP hunters pass through. I've never seen any type of invasion attempt or large scale attack. I've seen nights where only 1 or 2 enemy would intrude and score as many as 25 kills in a few hours. All while being chased by goofball mob of ragtag players. Omist is -LV- territory, you say. . . LOL, yea right. The only time you'll ever see -LV- is if they want to hog the systems to PvE or if they are moving a Freighter full of cheap empire stock to sell in Omist at 20 times it's value. . . . Here is a tip, for anyone thinking of invading Omist. . . It's no doubt that if invaded, most Alliances in Omist will:::: Flee Omist to avoid heavy conflict. Since they are Mining/Industrial only and noone, but -LV-, owns any of the Stations, Outposts and POSs in Omist. or Give the invading force their loyalty, for hopes of a better and more honest living in Omist. I'm sure if the Officers of many of the Alliances are contacted, many will agree to accept a change in power in Omist. Incuding this Officer. . . . . -LV- has become the cradle for all carebears and that cradle is becoming weak. . . . We want that cradle smashed and all carebears out of Omist. WHO CARES ?
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.16 19:52:00 - [9] Originally by: LWMaverick K noob.. I live in Omist, and this is utterly bull**. Quote comes from one of the "moochers" that has been in Omist for no longer than 2.5 months. I've been there almost 8. . . . . Notice, I'm posting with an Alt**, on a new account. . .
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.16 19:54:00 - [10] Originally by: Murukan Edited by: Murukan on 16/07/2006 19:38:11 Something tells me you bring an invading force though and LV will bring down the hammer on you It seems the "hammer" has trouble hitting the nail that moves.
Elve Sorrow Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.16 19:59:00 - [11] It seems no nail has bothered showing up. If you don't like it in Omist, then why have you been here for 8 months?
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.16 20:06:00 - [12] Originally by: Elve Sorrow It seems no nail has bothered showing up. If you don't like it in Omist, then why have you been here for 8 months? I like it there and hope for improvement... I hate the carebears, not the Region. Yes, there are worse off places. When you want something to change, you do not pack up and leave. You do what you can to provide support and influence.
Ta chaina	Posted - 2006.07.16 20:14:00 - [13] Whats wrong with carebears? Dont they bring more targets for you to kill by being there?
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.16 20:19:00 - [14] Originally by: Ta chaina Whats wrong with carebears? Dont they bring more targets for you to kill by being there? Fantastic question. No, they don't. That, I'm confused about. I'm growing tired of traveling 20 jumps or more to seek targets. "We" would enjoy more targets comming to us, to Omist.
Grimpak Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.16 20:19:00 - [15] ok this is all fine n' dandy ....but this is not the correct forum ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
Masochist Shinra	Posted - 2006.07.16 21:11:00 - [16] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Originally by: Ta chaina Whats wrong with carebears? Dont they bring more targets for you to kill by being there? Fantastic question. No, they don't. That, I'm confused about. I'm growing tired of traveling 20 jumps or more to seek targets. "We" would enjoy more targets comming to us, to Omist. Lol you're going for president?
Tao Han Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.16 21:11:00 - [17] Edited by: Tao Han on 16/07/2006 21:10:59 Instead of whining how easy it is to kill the carebears there and that you (who are we?) want a bigger challenge, try moving north. I've heard Tenerifis has plenty of ppl that will fire back at you. If anyone would try to invade Omist I can guarantee you that it will not go unnoticed for its true owners. Quote: -LV- has become the cradle for all carebears and that cradle is becoming weak. . . . We want that cradle smashed and all carebears out of Omist. Again, who the hell are "we" anyway?
Apocalyptic Rider	Posted - 2006.07.16 21:24:00 - [18] Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Interesting!!!!!! Well im sure if what u wish happens u will no longer be there, as whoever takes it over would surely go for loyalty and im sure if what u say is true it shouldnt be too hard to figure out what corp or alliance u are ....... who has been in omist 8 months etc as the old addage goes Be carefull what u wish for as it might just come true
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.16 21:26:00 - [19] This thread makes me horny. 10/10. Now, if people in omist have any issues, they know ways that they can deal with them. So, alts on forums implies someone is a bit... I don't know... RA alt? Or jealous of something perhaps? Get kicked out recently? Hmm, so many possibilities. --------
Lustralis	Posted - 2006.07.16 21:28:00 - [20] I can assure you LV aren't care bearing in Omist. I've had 27 modulated strip miner II's on sale down there for a month at below empire market price and I've only sold a few.
Max Teranous Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.16 21:34:00 - [21] Originally by: Lustralis I can assure you LV aren't care bearing in Omist. I've had 27 modulated strip miner II's on sale down there for a month at below empire market price and I've only sold a few. Really?!? /me logs on quick Max
Lustralis	Posted - 2006.07.16 21:39:00 - [22] Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Lustralis I can assure you LV aren't care bearing in Omist. I've had 27 modulated strip miner II's on sale down there for a month at below empire market price and I've only sold a few. Really?!? /me logs on quick Yes. - at D2E, there are 21 left. Either you guys are tanking your barges or you aren't getting enough local love from your enemies.
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.07.16 21:59:00 - [23] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Originally by: LWMaverick K noob.. I live in Omist, and this is utterly bull**. Quote comes from one of the "moochers" that has been in Omist for no longer than 2.5 months. I've been there almost 8. . . . . Notice, I'm posting with an Alt**, on a new account. . . First, wtf is a moocher? And 2+ month is quite some time, and the only problems that have been is stybbe and a couple of friends ganking some miners, so why should we panic? Im pretty sure LV will react if the situation gets out of hand or something likely.. The so called "carebear" alliances down there atm, can take care of themselfs fairly atm, and they are getting better and better every day. /Mav Btw, is that you stybbe? Poverty
Zavernus Hamarabi Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:00:00 - [24] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen I must say. I've never seen such a weak group of players in my life, living in what should be a very harsh enviroment. The Region is undefended and yet nothing more than the typical duo or treo of PvP hunters pass through. I've never seen any type of invasion attempt or large scale attack. I've seen nights where only 1 or 2 enemy would intrude and score as many as 25 kills in a few hours. All while being chased by goofball mob of ragtag players. Omist is -LV- territory, you say. . . LOL, yea right. The only time you'll ever see -LV- is if they want to hog the systems to PvE or if they are moving a Freighter full of cheap empire stock to sell in Omist at 20 times it's value. . . . Here is a tip, for anyone thinking of invading Omist. . . It's no doubt that if invaded, most Alliances in Omist will:::: Flee Omist to avoid heavy conflict. Since they are Mining/Industrial only and noone, but -LV-, owns any of the Stations, Outposts and POSs in Omist. or Give the invading force their loyalty, for hopes of a better and more honest living in Omist. I'm sure if the Officers of many of the Alliances are contacted, many will agree to accept a change in power in Omist. Incuding this Officer. . . . . -LV- has become the cradle for all carebears and that cradle is becoming weak. . . . We want that cradle smashed and all carebears out of Omist. Vitriolic empty speak by an alt. I'll take this with as much seriousness as a 6 dollar bill.
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:03:00 - [25] Originally by: The Enslaver This thread makes me horny. 10/10. Now, if people in omist have any issues, they know ways that they can deal with them. So, alts on forums implies someone is a bit... I don't know... RA alt? Or jealous of something perhaps? Get kicked out recently? Hmm, so many possibilities. Kicked out? RA alt? nope. To prove that...... I seen your alt "Enslaver's BigHaul" in 66-pmm and you were not alone. It was last night or the night before. I forget exact. Close enough to prove your guestion wrong. Jealous? Maybe that has something to do with it but not the whole reason. The jealousy stems from the carebears being there. They rob the systems of good NPCs and stip mine the belts. Leaving the ones that turn to engage intruders screwed. We return from a long fight only to find carebears basking in the sun...and a fat, bloated -LV- Alliance. BTW, Enslaver. Why are you guys putting together a mass of Dreads? I've seen ALOT of them over there, the past few days or so. . . .
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:05:00 - [26] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Kicked out? RA alt? nope. To prove that...... I seen your alt "Enslaver's BigHaul" in 66-pmm and you were not alone. It was last night or the night before. I forget exact. Close enough to prove your guestion wrong. Jealous? Maybe that has something to do with it but not the whole reason. The jealousy stems from the carebears being there. They rob the systems of good NPCs and stip mine the belts. Leaving the ones that turn to engage intruders screwed. We return from a long fight only to find carebears basking in the sun...and a fat, bloated -LV- Alliance. BTW, Enslaver. Why are you guys putting together a mass of Dreads? I've seen ALOT of them over there, the past few days or so. . . . So you have an issue - but your issue isn't with LV - so you post on the public forums and expect LV to do something about it. Well, we won't now. You really should have tried talking to us. Shame, some people make very poor decisions, don't you think? As for the dreads... There are a couple. And you think LV is a 'fat, bloated' alliance? Bring it, all I can say. --------
MrBreaker Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:11:00 - [27] Not everyone in Omist feels this way about LV The poster doest not speak for us all.
Treebeard dk M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:17:00 - [28] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Originally by: The Enslaver This thread makes me horny. 10/10. Now, if people in omist have any issues, they know ways that they can deal with them. So, alts on forums implies someone is a bit... I don't know... RA alt? Or jealous of something perhaps? Get kicked out recently? Hmm, so many possibilities. Kicked out? RA alt? nope. To prove that...... I seen your alt "Enslaver's BigHaul" in 66-pmm and you were not alone. It was last night or the night before. I forget exact. Close enough to prove your guestion wrong. Jealous? Maybe that has something to do with it but not the whole reason. The jealousy stems from the carebears being there. They rob the systems of good NPCs and stip mine the belts. Leaving the ones that turn to engage intruders screwed. We return from a long fight only to find carebears basking in the sun...and a fat, bloated -LV- Alliance. BTW, Enslaver. Why are you guys putting together a mass of Dreads? I've seen ALOT of them over there, the past few days or so. . . . Ok so let me see, you hate the carebears in Omist do you? And what are you doing there exactly? You claim they "steal" all the NPC rats and stripmine the belts, how rude of them, are they stealing it from who?? YOU?? What does that make you then? 8 months aye, if you are that bored of them living there, then leave, noone is keeping you there are they? Enough said.
Double TaP The Establishment	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:30:00 - [29] Come on Enslaver, we all know your fat bloating tendancies, no use covering it up!
Buster Gonads	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:31:00 - [30] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Jealous? Maybe that has something to do with it but not the whole reason. The jealousy stems from the carebears being there. They rob the systems of good NPCs and stip mine the belts. Leaving the ones that turn to engage intruders screwed. We return from a long fight only to find carebears basking in the sun...and a fat, bloated -LV- Alliance. Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Jealous? Maybe that has something to do with it but not the whole reason. The jealousy stems from the carebears being there. They rob the systems of good NPCs and stip mine the belts. Leaving the ones that turn to engage intruders screwed. We return from a long fight only to find carebears basking in the sun...and a fat, bloated -LV- Alliance. Is that you CiNi? The tone sounds familiar from the omist residents channel when I was there. You were the main agitator against "other" corps mining, trading and ratting but not helping out chasing Stybbe around. In reality, we paid our taxes and, well, Stybbe was a PITA, not a threat to the region.
Too Kind	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:33:00 - [31] Good luck with your plan. You usually don't see the full strength of an alliance, before there is a real threat. Small gank squads are no real threat. They are just annoying to fight or better chase, because they tend to run. You shouldn't value the strength of an alliance by their response to gankers, but by there response to real threats, like if the aggressor is an alliance that has the power to take stations. That's worth a Call to Arms for the whole alliance, 3 gankers are not. -------------------------- Post with your main !!!111
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:33:00 - [32] Originally by: Treebeard dk Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Originally by: The Enslaver This thread makes me horny. 10/10. Now, if people in omist have any issues, they know ways that they can deal with them. So, alts on forums implies someone is a bit... I don't know... RA alt? Or jealous of something perhaps? Get kicked out recently? Hmm, so many possibilities. Kicked out? RA alt? nope. To prove that...... I seen your alt "Enslaver's BigHaul" in 66-pmm and you were not alone. It was last night or the night before. I forget exact. Close enough to prove your guestion wrong. Jealous? Maybe that has something to do with it but not the whole reason. The jealousy stems from the carebears being there. They rob the systems of good NPCs and stip mine the belts. Leaving the ones that turn to engage intruders screwed. We return from a long fight only to find carebears basking in the sun...and a fat, bloated -LV- Alliance. BTW, Enslaver. Why are you guys putting together a mass of Dreads? I've seen ALOT of them over there, the past few days or so. . . . Ok so let me see, you hate the carebears in Omist do you? And what are you doing there exactly? You claim they "steal" all the NPC rats and stripmine the belts, how rude of them, are they stealing it from who?? YOU?? What does that make you then? 8 months aye, if you are that bored of them living there, then leave, noone is keeping you there are they? Enough said. A prime example of a forum troll. Feels the need to read only the last two or three posts. Then believes he/she knows the entire content of the thread. . . . Only constructive answer I have for you is to please read the thread, in it's entirety. Enough said.
Max Teranous Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:36:00 - [33] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen I seen your alt "Enslaver's BigHaul" in 66-pmm and you were not alone. It was last night or the night before. I forget exact. Ha ! How do you know that was enslavers alt?!? Can you prove it ?!? Max
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:39:00 - [34] Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen I seen your alt "Enslaver's BigHaul" in 66-pmm and you were not alone. It was last night or the night before. I forget exact. Ha ! How do you know that was enslavers alt?!? Can you prove it ?!? Indeed. Enslaver's BigHaul is clearly not related to me in any way. --------
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:40:00 - [35] Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen I seen your alt "Enslaver's BigHaul" in 66-pmm and you were not alone. It was last night or the night before. I forget exact. Ha ! How do you know that was enslavers alt?!? Can you prove it ?!? Just an assumption. Given the close likeness of the two names. . . .
Glassback M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:41:00 - [36] Fat & bloated? So we have more isk, ships, ammo, etc etc than we know what to do with? Give us a target, and we'll see about losing some weight. G. I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:41:00 - [37] Listen here Mr. Alt, You say you have fought for your place in Omist. You are wrong. Everything that exists in Omist today, all the outposts, all the corps making an honest living for themselves. This is all there because of the work LV have done so far in setting it up. The CEO's of each corp living in Omist know that LV acts in their best interests. We probably have better interaction with our sponsored corps and alliances than anyone, anywhere in EVE. You don't consider yourself a carebear? you think you have fought for your place in Omist? Reveal yourself and I might give you some credit, until then you are just a nobody, acting out of petty jealousy and spite. I have no time for you, but I do have time for CEO's who live in Omist that want to improve the region for everyone. M.Corp BPC Packages
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.16 22:51:00 - [38] Originally by: Velios Listen here Mr. Alt, You say you have fought for your place in Omist. You are wrong. Everything that exists in Omist today, all the outposts, all the corps making an honest living for themselves. This is all there because of the work LV have done so far in setting it up. The CEO's of each corp living in Omist know that LV acts in their best interests. We probably have better interaction with our sponsored corps and alliances than anyone, anywhere in EVE. You don't consider yourself a carebear? you think you have fought for your place in Omist? Reveal yourself and I might give you some credit, until then you are just a nobody, acting out of petty jealousy and spite. I have no time for you, but I do have time for CEO's who live in Omist that want to improve the region for everyone. Come on... You and I both know what will become of this, upon the revelation of my true self. The time for me that you speek of has been given and I thank you for that time. All in all, it is time you cannot take back.
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.16 23:05:00 - [39] Edited by: Velios on 16/07/2006 23:07:17 Sounds like you better leave Omist mate, LV doesn't and will not call to arms every time a couple of RA griefers sneak into Omist. It's up to the people in Omist to look out for themselves against that kind of threat. However, I'm sure you have noticed that LV owns and maintains all the outposts in the region... Do you honestly think that we would not respond if they came under attack? I'm not sure exactly you want out of life in 0.0. Either grow some balls and go conquer your own area, or continue to live in the rich area of Omist while paying a VERY modest 1 million isk a week for the privilege. Everyone else seems to like it, what's your problem? Omist has been deliberately set up to offer non-pvp'ers a good life in 0.0 under LV protection. Everyone knows this and it's no secret. The very people you seem to scorn are the very people we have offered Omist to. I put it to you that it is in fact YOU that is out of place in Omist. You want to take some kind of credit for claiming and securing the region yet you had no meaningful part in it. Sure, you might kill a few RA and good on you!!! but it's not fair for you to be bitter towards everyone else living in Omist, their ONLY concern is to defend themselves. If there is any SERIOUS fighting to be done, LV have, and will always be there. And no, if you did reveal yourself to me privately I would simply talk things through with you and try to address your grievances. Sure, I am angered that you have posted here as it's very provocative of you, but if you are genuinely an asset to Omist as you claim, then I / we are always ready to listen. M.Corp BPC Packages
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.16 23:10:00 - [40] I would also like to add, that you seem upset and bitter because everyone living in Omist is not rallying to your call when enemies enter the region looking to ganks. Omist resident corps and alliances are not answerable to you, only to themselves and the very basic rules LV have put in place to encourage harmony within the region. Omist has no leaders, don't go getting upset when people don't jump when you tell them.
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.17 00:38:00 - [41] You create many logical and valid points. Your characterizations of me are mostly, well, fiction. I am not angry nor upset. I invite change and wish it so. Your view of Omist strikes me as if you view it as some sort of utopia. A utopia present within a much larger creation that by it's very nature isn't capable of sustaining an entity of such harmony. Yet, persons such as yourself, Velios, feel you can control it's existance. You are not a person in such a privileged position to sustain it. With all due respects. It will not take a fleet to upset this utopia. A simple and persistant danger will suffice. In time, a swift storm will surge, stripping away the sandy beaches, the manicured lawns and the simple way of life. The weak will leave. As it is their nature. What is left will be left for the strong. Balance will be restored.
Karl Shade FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 01:24:00 - [42] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen You create many logical and valid points. Your characterizations of me are mostly, well, fiction. I am not angry nor upset. I invite change and wish it so. Your view of Omist strikes me as if you view it as some sort of utopia. A utopia present within a much larger creation that by it's very nature isn't capable of sustaining an entity of such harmony. Yet, persons such as yourself, Velios, feel you can control it's existance. You are not a person in such a privileged position to sustain it. With all due respects. It will not take a fleet to upset this utopia. A simple and persistant danger will suffice. In time, a swift storm will surge, stripping away the sandy beaches, the manicured lawns and the simple way of life. The weak will leave. As it is their nature. What is left will be left for the strong. Balance will be restored. Ugh. Without thouching on the factual issues you really should consider taking a Demagouge 101 class. Check out Jade Constantines old posts for a clue. -
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 01:32:00 - [43] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen I am not angry nor upset. I invite change and wish it so. Stop being such a wet lettuice and CREATE change if you have what it takes. No..., you dont even have the balls to post with a main. Because you know where it would lead. LV kicking your entire corp from Omist with a flick of it's wrist. Balance will be restored, only once whingers like you follow through words with actions. M.Corp BPC Packages
Mr Happ Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.17 01:39:00 - [44] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen I must say. I've never seen such a weak group of players in my life, living in what should be a very harsh enviroment. The Region is undefended and yet nothing more than the typical duo or treo of PvP hunters pass through. I've never seen any type of invasion attempt or large scale attack. I've seen nights where only 1 or 2 enemy would intrude and score as many as 25 kills in a few hours. All while being chased by goofball mob of ragtag players. Omist is -LV- territory, you say. . . LOL, yea right. The only time you'll ever see -LV- is if they want to hog the systems to PvE or if they are moving a Freighter full of cheap empire stock to sell in Omist at 20 times it's value. . . . Here is a tip, for anyone thinking of invading Omist. . . It's no doubt that if invaded, most Alliances in Omist will:::: Flee Omist to avoid heavy conflict. Since they are Mining/Industrial only and noone, but -LV-, owns any of the Stations, Outposts and POSs in Omist. or Give the invading force their loyalty, for hopes of a better and more honest living in Omist. I'm sure if the Officers of many of the Alliances are contacted, many will agree to accept a change in power in Omist. Incuding this Officer. . . . . -LV- has become the cradle for all carebears and that cradle is becoming weak. . . . We want that cradle smashed and all carebears out of Omist. I don't like lv, but i do repsect them. Omist is secure and can be within minutes, don't test lv, if you took a fleet in there, youd have about 10 minutes before u had LV over you so badly banging you up and down Omist than it would be worse than paris hilton on a weekend Dont be a fool
Ballz McCoy	Posted - 2006.07.17 02:00:00 - [45] Who in omist pays 1mil a week? I think we're getting screwed over... lol
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 02:17:00 - [46] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Omist is -LV- territory, you say. . . LOL, yea right. Omist IS LV Territory, We hold all stations in that region for the benefit of the member corps and alliances that pay 1m ISK a week per member to live there. Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen The only time you'll ever see -LV- is if they want to hog the systems to PvE or if they are moving a Freighter full of cheap empire stock to sell in Omist at 20 times it's value. . . . Simply untrue, LV stays in Tenerifis / Detorid (our home regions) and Omist is specifically set aside for corps that pay to live there. LV also has no input into the Omist market other than the battleships which we sell using mineral refine tax at empire price to all within Omist. Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Here is a tip, for anyone thinking of invading Omist. . . It's no doubt that if invaded, most Alliances in Omist will:::: Flee Omist to avoid heavy conflict. Since they are Mining/Industrial only and noone, but -LV-, owns any of the Stations, Outposts and POSs in Omist. We would expect many of the people in Omist to seek refuge if the region was invaded. After all they are not PvP corps, they pay to live in Omist to make a fair living. However LV would remain to defend that region, eventually restoring the peace. Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen or Give the invading force their loyalty, for hopes of a better and more honest living in Omist. What is so wrong with the opportunities provided to Omist citizens that they need to make a "more honest living"? LV leaves it's Omist sponsor corps to their own devices and we do not interfere with them. They have just a few rules to follow: * Mutual respect for fellow Omist corps. * Follow LV Standings * 1m isk per man per week rent Many alliances ask for MUCH more from their sponsored corps than LV do. Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen I'm sure if the Officers of many of the Alliances are contacted, many will agree to accept a change in power in Omist. Including this Officer. . . . . Maybe they would, but somehow I doubt it. Unlike you, these people can see that LV has been nothing but fair to them even generous by some standards. You are just waiting for someone with more power than you to come rescue you from the tyranny of LV. We really are not forcing you to stay. Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen -LV- has become the cradle for all carebears and that cradle is becoming weak. . . . We want that cradle smashed and all carebears out of Omist. "We" whomever you may be... Will never amount to anything so long as you rely on others to improve your situation. If you do not have what you desire, please make the necessary steps to achieve it. Only then will you be given respect. Don't live your life in eve as a servant of others, serve yourselves and see where that path takes you. Could be to riches or could be to ruin... No matter what, you can at least say that it was you that made change. OK, I really have used too much time on you now. If I catch you needless to say that you will be kicked out of Omist immediately... So be a good boy now and fulfill your part of the deal you or your corp made with LV whoever you are. Once you have made your isk you can hike off to someone else's claimed space and attempt to cause trouble there.
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.17 05:07:00 - [47] Originally by: Velios Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Omist is -LV- territory, you say. . . LOL, yea right. Omist IS LV Territory, We hold all stations in that region for the benefit of the member corps and alliances that pay 1m ISK a week per member to live there. LV also levies very high station taxes AND insane Refinery fees. Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen The only time you'll ever see -LV- is if they want to hog the systems to PvE or if they are moving a Freighter full of cheap empire stock to sell in Omist at 20 times it's value. . . . Simply untrue, LV stays in Tenerifis / Detorid (our home regions) and Omist is specifically set aside for corps that pay to live there. LV also has no input into the Omist market other than the battleships which we sell using mineral refine tax at empire price to all within Omist. Afraid I need to counter your comment. LV members do use Omist for PvE. LV members do resell items on Omist Market at inflated rates. LV members do scam the Omist Market,(300 isks perTritanium unit type of cons/scams). LV members do sell battleships at or above empire's highest price. Velios, a simple trip into Omist to view it's Market will show the facts. Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Here is a tip, for anyone thinking of invading Omist. . . It's no doubt that if invaded, most Alliances in Omist will:::: Flee Omist to avoid heavy conflict. Since they are Mining/Industrial only and noone, but -LV-, owns any of the Stations, Outposts and POSs in Omist. We would expect many of the people in Omist to seek refuge if the region was invaded. After all they are not PvP corps, they pay to live in Omist to make a fair living. However LV would remain to defend that region, eventually restoring the peace. I most likely was out of line for saying this, at the time. Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen or Give the invading force their loyalty, for hopes of a better and more honest living in Omist. What is so wrong with the opportunities provided to Omist citizens that they need to make a "more honest living"? LV leaves it's Omist sponsor corps to their own devices and we do not interfere with them. They have just a few rules to follow: * Mutual respect for fellow Omist corps. * Follow LV Standings * 1m isk per man per week rent Many alliances ask for MUCH more from their sponsored corps than LV do. Turning control of stations over to local Alliances would be more "honest" During the 1800's in the far West area of the U.S., townsfolk were forced to use places of busness, commerce and entertainment that were all owned by the same person. In many cases, the only one employer in town owned everything and he simply price gouged the people. This practice did not last long.
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.17 05:09:00 - [48] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen I'm sure if the Officers of many of the Alliances are contacted, many will agree to accept a change in power in Omist. Including this Officer. . . . . Maybe they would, but somehow I doubt it. Unlike you, these people can see that LV has been nothing but fair to them even generous by some standards. You are just waiting for someone with more power than you to come rescue you from the tyranny of LV. We really are not forcing you to stay. Again, not entirely true. I stay of my own free will, yes. I wish for rescue, no. I wish for change. Change for Omist, not necessarily LV "tyranny". Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen -LV- has become the cradle for all carebears and that cradle is becoming weak. . . . We want that cradle smashed and all carebears out of Omist. "We" whomever you may be... Will never amount to anything so long as you rely on others to improve your situation. If you do not have what you desire, please make the necessary steps to achieve it. Only then will you be given respect. Don't live your life in eve as a servant of others, serve yourselves and see where that path takes you. Could be to riches or could be to ruin... No matter what, you can at least say that it was you that made change. OK, I really have used too much time on you now. If I catch you needless to say that you will be kicked out of Omist immediately... So be a good boy now and fulfill your part of the deal you or your corp made with LV whoever you are. Once you have made your isk you can hike off to someone else's claimed space and attempt to cause trouble there. I'll be staying, right where I'm at. If I'm found and forced to quit my officer's roles and maybe even leave my Corp/Alliance, so be it. I will still remain in Omist, as an insurgent.
Kyguard LFC 3rd Front Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.17 05:18:00 - [49] Sneak a fleet from Period Basis to Paragon Soul, Esoteria, Feythabolis, Tenerifis and reach Omist. LV will never see it coming!! It will work or your money back guaranteed! === God is on the side with the best arti
Crellion	Posted - 2006.07.17 05:55:00 - [50] Actually m8 we are all so bored of RA that (if LV doesnt mind) your fleet has a sub 50% chance of being ganked by -LV-. "Fresh meat heading for Omist, fresh meat heading for Omist" there will be a bloody stampede Sooo.... after mature thought I want to join you in your plea : Somebody please come and liberate poor Omist (Velios could you please have somebody drop some BMs at 1v- pretty please?)
ZaKma Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 06:06:00 - [51] Originally by: Glassback Fat & bloated? So we have more isk, ships, ammo, etc etc than we know what to do with? Give us a target, and we'll see about losing some weight. G. OMG you killed Angelina Jolie! --- This post represents my personal opinion, and in no way the one of my alliance or corporation. I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.
Murphy Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.07.17 06:32:00 - [52] Amazing how little this alt knows of the politics of the area. What this alt has failed to notice is there's really only 4 ways into omist. Through more LV territory, through AXE then ASCN territory, through stain and then ASCN territory, or through Chimp space then LV space...... Now being that omist is all in our backyards do you really think we want a hostile force to move in and de-stabilize the region behind us all? Do you really think we'd just sit back and let forces that are neutral to us and hostile to our friends move through our space?
Darkon Gatland	Posted - 2006.07.17 06:37:00 - [53] The OP sounds like a drunken rant. Were you drinking alot last night?
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.17 06:41:00 - [54] Originally by: Darkon Gatland The OP sounds like a drunken rant. Were you drinking alot last night? Prime example of a forum troll.
0bsidia	Posted - 2006.07.17 08:08:00 - [55] Edited by: 0bsidia on 17/07/2006 08:08:13 mmmm ALTs
Hephaesteus Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.17 08:56:00 - [56] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Originally by: Darkon Gatland The OP sounds like a drunken rant. Were you drinking alot last night? Prime example of a forum troll. He has a point. You sound bitter and twisted about something!!! Flown with LV a few times always organized and efficient and more than ready to defend their homeland when the need arises. Some of the LV . Only some coz the actual fleet was to big to fit into the entire pic without losing definition. ----------------------------------------------- Knowing all, when all is unknown.
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.17 09:39:00 - [57] Originally by: 0bsidia Edited by: 0bsidia on 17/07/2006 08:08:13 mmmm ALTs Back under your bridge, please. Originally by: Hephaesteus Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Originally by: Darkon Gatland The OP sounds like a drunken rant. Were you drinking alot last night? Prime example of a forum troll. He has a point. You sound bitter and twisted about something!!! You could read the thread in it's entirety. Thank you.
Lustralis	Posted - 2006.07.17 09:48:00 - [58] How long has it been 1 mill per week, per character? My last corp CEO was charging us 30m per month, per character. I was handing over 60m per month - he told us it was how much LV charged per character - when it was only costing ~ 8m?
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.17 10:11:00 - [59] Originally by: Murphy Amazing how little this alt knows of the politics of the area. What this alt has failed to notice is there's really only 4 ways into omist. Through more LV territory, through AXE then ASCN territory, through stain and then ASCN territory, or through Chimp space then LV space...... Now being that omist is all in our backyards do you really think we want a hostile force to move in and de-stabilize the region behind us all? Do you really think we'd just sit back and let forces that are neutral to us and hostile to our friends move through our space? It amazes me that Murphy would post anything about a hostile force, (an enemy Fleet), moving through hostile territory. Murphy clearly has no clue how a fleet operates and moves. No hostile fleet would ever announce or forcast it's presence. Nor would the fleet let you know it's target. A fleet could travel through several Regions unopposed. In many cases, a fleet will only face token resistance before it reaches it's targeted solarsystems. Resistance from mostly passers-by caught at the wrong place at the wrong time. No fleet will wait for you to raise an opposition force large enough to threaten them. An invasion fleet would temporarily have it's targets secured and any and all gates sealed off. All POSs would be down to 25% shields, in reinforced mode and system sovereignty would be contested. All done long before defenders can react. Sure, there is more to it than that. Certainly not worth mention here. Move along, please.
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.17 10:27:00 - [60] Originally by: Treebeard dk Edited by: Treebeard dk on 17/07/2006 09:35:41 Originally by: Velios Omist IS LV Territory, We hold all stations in that region for the benefit of the member corps and alliances that pay 1m ISK a week per member to live there. Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen LV also levies very high station taxes AND insane Refinery fees. I suppose you DID consider that LV paid for the outposts with that refine tax right n00b? I suppose you DIDN'T know -LV- used the refine tax to pay back the loan Omist Residents had put up to build/deploy the Outpost(s). Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen The only time you'll ever see -LV- is if they want to hog the systems to PvE or if they are moving a Freighter full of cheap empire stock to sell in Omist at 20 times it's value. . . . Originally by: Velios Simply untrue, LV stays in Tenerifis / Detorid (our home regions) and Omist is specifically set aside for corps that pay to live there. LV also has no input into the Omist market other than the battleships which we sell using mineral refine tax at empire price to all within Omist. Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Afraid I need to counter your comment. LV members do use Omist for PvE. LV members do resell items on Omist Market at inflated rates. LV members do scam the Omist Market,(300 isks perTritanium unit type of cons/scams). LV members do sell battleships at or above empire's highest price. Velios, a simple trip into Omist to view it's Market will show the facts. And you know it is LV members that does that right? I'm 100% certain, since members bought one unit "samples" to see who was doing this. Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen or Give the invading force their loyalty, for hopes of a better and more honest living in Omist. Originally by: Velios What is so wrong with the opportunities provided to Omist citizens that they need to make a "more honest living"? LV leaves it's Omist sponsor corps to their own devices and we do not interfere with them. They have just a few rules to follow: * Mutual respect for fellow Omist corps. * Follow LV Standings * 1m isk per man per week rent Many alliances ask for MUCH more from their sponsored corps than LV do. Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Turning control of stations over to local Alliances would be more "honest" During the 1800's in the far West area of the U.S., townsfolk were forced to use places of busness, commerce and entertainment that were all owned by the same person. In many cases, the only one employer in town owned everything and he simply price gouged the people. This practice did not last long. And because this is like US in the 1800s, ofcourse its the same here. Wake up, I'll say it again, if you dont like it, leave, if you want to be taken seriously, approach us with your main and stop whining in the forums. I think you fail to notice who is doing the whining here. I am simply countering your claims and answering your questions. As I have mentioned several times before, disclosing my true identity will no impact to this discussion in any positive manner. Get over it. Move along, please...
Lydia Brightlance Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.17 10:32:00 - [61] Before I make my case I need to explain a bit about who I am in Eve. Now, as is probably visible with this post, I am from Maelstrom. We have lived in Omist under LVs rule in the recent past and thus I have experienced first hand what living in Omist is like. The short of it: LV is doing an absolutely great job in Omist. LV has fought for and secured Omist, whatever anyone may have to say about this. LV controls the region and until another alliance comes in and takes it from them it is theirs to do with as they please. And this brings me to what LV has chosen to do with it. They decided to hire it to smaller corporations and alliances for a very low price and with very few rules attached. Personally I applaud this initiative. For me personally, Omist has been a huge benefit. I am only 6 months old into Eve and I had very little experience with low security living. Omist taught me how to survive and fight in 0.0. I have been a carebear from the beginning of my Eve career, but in Omist I also learned how to fight and by now I am participating, on a very regular basis, in PVP. Both in defense of my alliance and it's allies and in attack on our enemies. I have seen the same development in many pilots that are living in Omist. We all know that it is extremely hard for a relatively new or small corporation or alliance to get a piece of the 0.0 pie. Now, no one can disagree that to fully experience the splendor of Eve you need to get a taste of 0.0... and LV makes that possible for a lot of players who would otherwise be stuck in empire space. Yes, some of the alliances and corporations in Omist may still have a thing or two to learn about living in 0.0 space, but that is the beauty of it all. In Omist they learn how to act. At the moment Omist acts as a breeding/training ground for new 0.0 corporations. They live and learn in a region that is 0.0, but somewhat controlled by the protection of a bigger alliance. This allows them to grow and get ready for their own, true involvement into 0.0 space. Aside from this beneficial effect on the Eve universe, it is also a rather good tactical move by LV. They not only have a region that brings in money through taxes, but they also have a large pool of corporations they can recruit fromonce those corporations prove that they can hold their own in a 0.0 region like Omist. Even those that don't join LV are likely to remember where they were allowed to grow strong. What I say here is my personal opinion and I cannot speak for either my alliance or corporation. But I have to say: Thank you LV. I would not have had the opportunities nor the same amount of fun in this game then I would have had without Omist.
Max Teranous Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 10:45:00 - [62] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen It amazes me that Murphy would post anything about a hostile force, (an enemy Fleet), moving through hostile territory. Murphy clearly has no clue how a fleet operates and moves. No hostile fleet would ever announce or forcast it's presence. Nor would the fleet let you know it's target. A fleet could travel through several Regions unopposed. In many cases, a fleet will only face token resistance before it reaches it's targeted solarsystems. Resistance from mostly passers-by caught at the wrong place at the wrong time. No fleet will wait for you to raise an opposition force large enough to threaten them. An invasion fleet would temporarily have it's targets secured and any and all gates sealed off. All POSs would be down to 25% shields, in reinforced mode and system sovereignty would be contested. All done long before defenders can react. Sure, there is more to it than that. Certainly not worth mention here. Move along, please. And if you think you can move a sizable fleet with capital ship support through LV, Chimp, -V-, ASCN or Axiom space without them seeing, reacting & WTFPWNing then you are an idiot. POS warfare is far more involved than you make it out to be. LV have fought Red Alliance at POS warfare for a long time - and they are very, very good at it. As others have said, small gangs are impossible to stop, I should know as I do it enough in other people regions and are very hard to pin down. But anything proper to come our way will be squashed like a bug. Max
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 10:47:00 - [63] Originally by: Lustralis How long has it been 1 mill per week, per character? My last corp CEO was charging us 30m per month, per character. I was handing over 60m per month - he told us it was how much LV charged per character - when it was only costing ~ 8m? It has been 1 million isk per character per week since we started inviting corps to Omist. So yeah, your CEO would have been ripping you off. Some corps in the area do have different deals, all along the same lines in terms of the cost though - nothing like 30m/month. I think we can all agree it is hardly an extortionate amount. --------
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 10:50:00 - [64] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen An invasion fleet would temporarily have it's targets secured and any and all gates sealed off. All POSs would be down to 25% shields, in reinforced mode and system sovereignty would be contested. All done long before defenders can react. Sure, there is more to it than that. Certainly not worth mention here. A fleet getting the POS's down to reinforced in how long? Amusing. You do realise that the number of POS's in Omist is a three figure number, right? --------
Lustralis	Posted - 2006.07.17 11:12:00 - [65] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Lustralis How long has it been 1 mill per week, per character? My last corp CEO was charging us 30m per month, per character. I was handing over 60m per month - he told us it was how much LV charged per character - when it was only costing ~ 8m? It has been 1 million isk per character per week since we started inviting corps to Omist. So yeah, your CEO would have been ripping you off. Some corps in the area do have different deals, all along the same lines in terms of the cost though - nothing like 30m/month. I think we can all agree it is hardly an extortionate amount. Well, if you are thinking of joining Pimpology or are already a member, just remember your CEO is bending you over and asking you to pick the soap up off the shower floor. Not only that, but also buying your minerals at 1/2 price, gouging the local market and taking a 5% tax on your earnings for his corp. For added fun, you aren't allowed to engage local enemies or join in to help out because that might make them dislike you and who knows, when you get booted from the region you might want to go and *****his region instead! As far as Omist is concerned, apart from a few locals who resented us being there (and who can blame them given the paragraph above?), it was pretty well run. Only a few rats there (Stybbe) and they were easily chased off. I had no complaints about anything at all. In fact of all the areas I've been in around Eve, I had the least problems in Omist and the local Godfather Tasslehoff is a top bloke to boot.
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.17 11:21:00 - [66] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen An invasion fleet would temporarily have it's targets secured and any and all gates sealed off. All POSs would be down to 25% shields, in reinforced mode and system sovereignty would be contested. All done long before defenders can react. Sure, there is more to it than that. Certainly not worth mention here. A fleet getting the POS's down to reinforced in how long? Amusing. You do realise that the number of POS's in Omist is a three figure number, right? Hello The Enslaver, POSs in the hundreds? Nope. I did not know that. I bet I can count on one hand how many are online. Since I've warped to quite a few of them and none were ever online. I warp to x number of POSs, 100% of x are off-line, what are the chances that the others are also? Since you mentioned it...
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 11:34:00 - [67] Edited by: The Enslaver on 17/07/2006 11:34:02 Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen An invasion fleet would temporarily have it's targets secured and any and all gates sealed off. All POSs would be down to 25% shields, in reinforced mode and system sovereignty would be contested. All done long before defenders can react. Sure, there is more to it than that. Certainly not worth mention here. A fleet getting the POS's down to reinforced in how long? Amusing. You do realise that the number of POS's in Omist is a three figure number, right? Hello The Enslaver, POSs in the hundreds? Nope. I did not know that. I bet I can count on one hand how many are online. Since I've warped to quite a few of them and none were ever online. I warp to x number of POSs, 100% of x are off-line, what are the chances that the others are also? Since you mentioned it... You must have a lot of fingers. --------
Glorificus	Posted - 2006.07.17 12:07:00 - [68] Su'Kar Vladen if a rumour I heard is true you are very good friends with Viktor Kruger. Gil Galad sez hello if it's true
Treebeard dk M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 12:31:00 - [69] Edited by: Treebeard dk on 17/07/2006 12:31:55 Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen An invasion fleet would temporarily have it's targets secured and any and all gates sealed off. All POSs would be down to 25% shields, in reinforced mode and system sovereignty would be contested. All done long before defenders can react. Sure, there is more to it than that. Certainly not worth mention here. A fleet getting the POS's down to reinforced in how long? Amusing. You do realise that the number of POS's in Omist is a three figure number, right? Hello The Enslaver, POSs in the hundreds? Nope. I did not know that. I bet I can count on one hand how many are online. Since I've warped to quite a few of them and none were ever online. I warp to x number of POSs, 100% of x are off-line, what are the chances that the others are also? Since you mentioned it... To reply to your previous answer to my post above this one, yes you are right, 24bn of the cost of the outposts in Omist were done through local investors but you forget one thing my n00b alt friend, the cost of POS's are not included, I suppose you know how much they cost right? I also suppose that you know how much it cost to keep em running and how much time it takes to buy it in empire and move it down there right? I think you ARE whining, I am certainly not, in fact I am laughing right now realising that you simply have no clue what you got yourself into when you made this thread and the more you try to "defend" yourself, the deeper you dig yourself into this and soon you are unable to get yourself out of it again and you will go away hopefully.
Treebeard dk M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 12:48:00 - [70] Edited by: Treebeard dk on 17/07/2006 12:51:32 Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen An invasion fleet would temporarily have it's targets secured and any and all gates sealed off. All POSs would be down to 25% shields, in reinforced mode and system sovereignty would be contested. All done long before defenders can react. Sure, there is more to it than that. Certainly not worth mention here. A fleet getting the POS's down to reinforced in how long? Amusing. You do realise that the number of POS's in Omist is a three figure number, right? Hello The Enslaver, POSs in the hundreds? Nope. I did not know that. I bet I can count on one hand how many are online. Since I've warped to quite a few of them and none were ever online. I warp to x number of POSs, 100% of x are off-line, what are the chances that the others are also? Since you mentioned it... Oh, forgot to mention, if you warped to "quite a few" moons and saw only offline POS's, they must but ofcourse all be offline. Cant you see that what you say just dont make sence at all? There MUST be at least one online POS, otherwise LV would not have sovr. in the system so ever considered that some of them must be online? So for an invading army that would, by miracle, make it past our defence, or any of our allies, or jumping in dreads straight into a system with a station, must first shoot all online and offline POS's, setup at least 1 Large POS themselves and wait until they come out of reinforced mode and shoot em again, wait for 5 days before they get sovr. and THEN they can shoot the station and take it. And you say that by the time you have all the online POS's in reinforced mode and have shot the offline ones, LV would not be able to react in time, correct? Oh my.
Moj Alt	Posted - 2006.07.17 14:59:00 - [71] Su'Kar Vladen vel Stybe, or what this miners hunter is called , try to hunt some non rating fitted ships or miners you great pvp'er.
Ballz McCoy	Posted - 2006.07.17 15:40:00 - [72] Actually moving a fleet into LV territory near undetected until the last minute would be extremely easy. Most of LV isn't stationed in the Tenefris area. If you jumped a few capital ships within one jump (that would most likely go undetected until the last jump or two) and then run the bulk of your fleet through the Konora -> 9-9 pipe you would get into LV space without any resistance what-so-ever. 20-30 man BoB/SE/RAT gank squads will come in unmatched for hours until they leave, do you seriously think anyone will stop a 60-80 man fleet? Then you just bubble up the 46DP gate and take 9-9 / JV1V station systems. I guess you could also take 77s8 since they just recently dropped an outpost there. They wouldn't actually be able to RESPOND to your incursion for maybe a day or two at which point if done properly you will have control of multiple LV stations making it very difficult to oust you if you defend properly.
Ediz Daxx FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 15:47:00 - [73] lol.. just lol
Elve Sorrow Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.17 15:50:00 - [74] Come try your luck then.
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 15:50:00 - [75] Originally by: Ballz McCoy Actually moving a fleet into LV territory near undetected until the last minute would be extremely easy. Most of LV isn't stationed in the Tenefris area. If you jumped a few capital ships within one jump (that would most likely go undetected until the last jump or two) and then run the bulk of your fleet through the Konora -> 9-9 pipe you would get into LV space without any resistance what-so-ever. 20-30 man BoB/SE/RAT gank squads will come in unmatched for hours until they leave, do you seriously think anyone will stop a 60-80 man fleet? Then you just bubble up the 46DP gate and take 9-9 / JV1V station systems. I guess you could also take 77s8 since they just recently dropped an outpost there. They wouldn't actually be able to RESPOND to your incursion for maybe a day or two at which point if done properly you will have control of multiple LV stations making it very difficult to oust you if you defend properly. Most of LV isn't stationed there? Someone doesn't know how to use the map. Someone is also dreaming --------
DeadDuck Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.17 16:01:00 - [76] Originally by: Ballz McCoy Actually moving a fleet into LV territory near undetected until the last minute would be extremely easy. Most of LV isn't stationed in the Tenefris area. If you jumped a few capital ships within one jump (that would most likely go undetected until the last jump or two) and then run the bulk of your fleet through the Konora -> 9-9 pipe you would get into LV space without any resistance what-so-ever. 20-30 man BoB/SE/RAT gank squads will come in unmatched for hours until they leave, do you seriously think anyone will stop a 60-80 man fleet? Then you just bubble up the 46DP gate and take 9-9 / JV1V station systems. I guess you could also take 77s8 since they just recently dropped an outpost there. They wouldn't actually be able to RESPOND to your incursion for maybe a day or two at which point if done properly you will have control of multiple LV stations making it very difficult to oust you if you defend properly.
Max Teranous Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 16:10:00 - [77] Originally by: Ballz McCoy Actually moving a fleet into LV territory near undetected until the last minute would be extremely easy. Most of LV isn't stationed in the Tenefris area. It is true that many LV pilots base out of Curse, Detroid or Insmother stations alot of the time - but of course none of us have any jump clones in the 9-9 area, or any ships there Originally by: Ballz McCoy They wouldn't actually be able to RESPOND to your incursion for maybe a day or two at which point if done properly you will have control of multiple LV stations making it very difficult to oust you if you defend properly. Respond for a day or 2? Just LOL. You have no concept of POS warfare done properly. Don't play with fire - you may get burned. Max
Ballz McCoy	Posted - 2006.07.17 16:15:00 - [78] Some of you guys sound as ignorant as Velios. I cannot wait until someone steps up to the plate and then you will see how flawed whatever plan you think you possess is. One question people need to ask themselves is, why would LV be so concerned about even responding to this post? What do they care about some guy in an alt corp talking crap which no one seems to believe anyways? Look at some of Velios' responses.
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 16:17:00 - [79] Originally by: Ballz McCoy Some of you guys sound as ignorant as Velios. I cannot wait until someone steps up to the plate and then you will see how flawed whatever plan you think you possess is. Errm... Damn, you've really got no idea. Quote: One question people need to ask themselves is, why would LV be so concerned about even responding to this post? What do they care about some guy in an alt corp talking crap which no one seems to believe anyways? Look at some of Velios' responses. We are forum *****s, and there has been no fleshy threads for a long time. --------
Frank Moss Shinra	Posted - 2006.07.17 16:18:00 - [80] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen No hostile fleet would ever announce or forcast it's presence. Nor would the fleet let you know it's target. A fleet could travel through several Regions unopposed. In many cases, a fleet will only face token resistance before it reaches it's targeted solarsystems. Resistance from mostly passers-by caught at the wrong place at the wrong time. No fleet will wait for you to raise an opposition force large enough to threaten them. An invasion fleet would temporarily have it's targets secured and any and all gates sealed off. All POSs would be down to 25% shields, in reinforced mode and system sovereignty would be contested. All done long before defenders can react. Sure, there is more to it than that. Certainly not worth mention here. Move along, please. I am begging you. In all ernestness..... PLEASE come and test this theory of yours.
Max Teranous Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 16:19:00 - [81] Edited by: Max Teranous on 17/07/2006 16:20:48 Plan we think we have? I think "kill enemy fleet" is quite a good plan actually. BTW, i'm posting because i'm a bored forum ***** who is at work. What about you? Edit: Bah, My whoring skills were pwned by Frank and Ens! Max
Ballz McCoy	Posted - 2006.07.17 16:25:00 - [82] Best time to attack would be on a Sunday evening - as it seems most of LV is UK. If you've been through Tene on a Sunday Evening as I have been many times before, it is very much a ghost town.
CiNi Mining Specialists Inc Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.17 16:48:00 - [83] Originally by: Buster Gonads Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Jealous? Maybe that has something to do with it but not the whole reason. The jealousy stems from the carebears being there. They rob the systems of good NPCs and stip mine the belts. Leaving the ones that turn to engage intruders screwed. We return from a long fight only to find carebears basking in the sun...and a fat, bloated -LV- Alliance. Is that you CiNi? The tone sounds familiar from the omist residents channel when I was there. You were the main agitator against "other" corps mining, trading and ratting but not helping out chasing Stybbe around. In reality, we paid our taxes and, well, Stybbe was a PITA, not a threat to the region. Normally i would never reply to a thread like this cos it just continues to feed the specualtion, but in this case seeing someone was kind enough to make a wild guess and accuse me of something - i will. No its not me :) If u know me, as u suggest u do mr.alt, u will know that i wouldn't hide behind an alt to complain about something. I would go directly to the person resposible and speak to them on teamspeak. As i have done in the past. As i'm sure u know! And please, if ur going to make accusation, grow some gonads, buster. And post with ur main! As for me complaining about people not using common sense to protect themselves and those who carry on merrily mining,trading and ratting while other people (who by the way also pay rent) gang up and chase hostiles around - I think i have a fairly valid point.
Grabtharr	Posted - 2006.07.17 16:51:00 - [84] I actually enjoy the presence of enemies in Omist from time to time. It breaks the monontony and you dont have to go far for PVP action. Granted Stybbe and his mates are a bother in Omist but a nice challenge. My biggest gripe with their presence is that they have a monopoly on the 8/10 complex in NZPK...but were working on that. I wouldnt characterize all players in Omist as Carebears. There are a lot of young (in Eve time) players that are learning how to conduct themselves in 0.0. There are a lot of experienced players as well. Its a diverse group and the goals are not always the same or coordinates which leads to some disjointed responses to enemies...but we are working on that as well.
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.17 20:53:00 - [85] ===========RESERVED FOR MY RESPONSE==================
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.07.17 21:07:00 - [86] Originally by: Ballz McCoy Actually moving a fleet into LV territory near undetected until the last minute would be extremely easy. Most of LV isn't stationed in the Tenefris area. If you jumped a few capital ships within one jump (that would most likely go undetected until the last jump or two) and then run the bulk of your fleet through the Konora -> 9-9 pipe you would get into LV space without any resistance what-so-ever. 20-30 man BoB/SE/RAT gank squads will come in unmatched for hours until they leave, do you seriously think anyone will stop a 60-80 man fleet? Then you just bubble up the 46DP gate and take 9-9 / JV1V station systems. I guess you could also take 77s8 since they just recently dropped an outpost there. They wouldn't actually be able to RESPOND to your incursion for maybe a day or two at which point if done properly you will have control of multiple LV stations making it very difficult to oust you if you defend properly. Forgive my intrusion and ignorance, but how would you take a station after 2 days if its gonna take you more than that to take sovereignty away from LV, let alone establish sovereignty yourself? Even if LV only has a single POS online in a system, they can easily put it so that it doesn't come out of reinforced for 48 hours. Then you gotta destroy it etc. etc. Or did I miss something?
Filan Fyretracker	Posted - 2006.07.17 21:31:00 - [87] seems to me that LV is just running the region as a Neutral zone, which benifits all who live in the area. for a small fee they can have a place to mine in 0.0
Arkanor Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.17 21:39:00 - [88] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Notice, I'm posting with an Alt, on a new account. . . Post with your main. Balance the Gun/Missile skilltrees! Originally by: kieron rabble, Rabble, RABBLE,
Happydayz FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 22:17:00 - [89] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen ===========RESERVED FOR MY RESPONSE================== ========RESERVED FOR MY RESPONSE TO THIS RESPONSE==============
Mourning Starr FireStar Inc Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.17 22:23:00 - [90] hey, gob5h1te who started this post, alt or otherwise .. I'm an Omist Resident and I don't take too kindly to your comments .. I challenge you to a 1v1
Max Teranous Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 22:45:00 - [91] Originally by: Malachon Draco Forgive my intrusion and ignorance, but how would you take a station after 2 days if its gonna take you more than that to take sovereignty away from LV, let alone establish sovereignty yourself? Even if LV only has a single POS online in a system, they can easily put it so that it doesn't come out of reinforced for 48 hours. Then you gotta destroy it etc. etc. Or did I miss something? You kinda missed something, because if you put every POS in the system into reinforced then the sov is neutralized the following downtime, as reinforced POS don't count towards sov. That would allow you to take the station - but of course you wouldn't have sov yourself so it could be taken straight back. But of course you are basing that on LV having only 1 POS in each station system. We have ....... more than that. Max
mattzz adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.17 22:56:00 - [92] There seems to be a lot of bitter alts/noobs in this thread.
Logan Williams Super Nova Cartel	Posted - 2006.07.17 23:05:00 - [93] Edited by: Logan Williams on 17/07/2006 23:09:20 For the record, I still hate you, LV. Now, however, on to Mr. Alt. Many alliances sponsor corporations to live in their space. As it is, LV can't be arsed with living split up and in different regions so.....they sponsor corps and allow them to live in Omist. They are quite happy to collect various rents, bills, and refining taxes from peopel that should have a clue about 0.0 before going. Just because they don't live there doesn't mean that they don't control it. They just cba to deal with chicken-littles like yourself. "Omist is falling!!..............OMIST IS FALING!!!" Omist ARE the carebears boy, you want to smack about how weak LV are, go take a trip through Teneferis. edit No offense meant towards Omist residents. As it were, however, the niche you are filling is that of carebears.
vladdy2 VentureCorp CORE.	Posted - 2006.07.17 23:44:00 - [94] hey ho!! Uhmm looks like LV has another fanboi. Hey LV guys you sure this toon "Su'Kar Vladen" isn't some offspring of your other entertaining ex-Shinra fanboi, what was his name again.... Sunburnt or Heatstroke? you know the toon with the "issues". anyway i like reading LV/Shinra fanboi threads they are the best. and toons with no clue are funny aint they. State War Academy Fleet headed Omist way OMG, Runnn!!!! --------------------------------- another VNTR member with no sig by Vaevictus :(
Fubumaki Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 01:03:00 - [95] Originally by: Happydayz Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen ===========RESERVED FOR MY RESPONSE================== ========RESERVED FOR MY RESPONSE TO THIS RESPONSE============== =========RESERVED TO LOL AT THE RESPONSE TO THE RESPONSE========== I'm just preparing my impromptu remarks.
Fubumaki Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 01:04:00 - [96] Originally by: Mourning Starr hey, gob5h1te who started this post, alt or otherwise .. I'm an Omist Resident and I don't take too kindly to your comments .. I challenge you to a 1v1 My money is on Mourning Starr, Go man go! I'm just preparing my impromptu remarks.
Crellion	Posted - 2006.07.18 01:27:00 - [97] I have read with great interest this excellent thread. I like very much the idea of this blitzkrig invasion force. It can rly rly work and should be organised asap. Theonlt flaw is that you need a midway station in 0.0 that you can use to stage your attacks and as the in between jump of your dreads. Something say... 7-8 jumps down the Konora route. I strongly urge you to invade and cease 1v- station for this reason. It is completely undefended (you can see RA gangs go through there often) and has no military preparations. In fact it is called AWAR Social club -part of the Veritas group-. I also concur with you that the first step should be this Sunday afternoon around 5-6 pm. I will see you there.
Ballz McCoy	Posted - 2006.07.18 03:59:00 - [98] It's a date schnookums
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.18 06:57:00 - [99] The password is: Nipple Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Plutoinum Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.18 07:32:00 - [100] Originally by: Crellion I strongly urge you to invade and cease 1v- station for this reason. Hehe, that was also my idea, when I read this thread for the first time. Think we could need something like that.
Treebeard dk M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 07:59:00 - [101] Edited by: Treebeard dk on 18/07/2006 07:58:48 Originally by: Plutoinum Originally by: Crellion I strongly urge you to invade and cease 1v- station for this reason. Hehe, that was also my idea, when I read this thread for the first time. Think we could need something like that. Go for it, it should be doable to kick V out before the end of the day no probs
Ka Ten Aliastra	Posted - 2006.07.18 08:01:00 - [102] mmm Omist =) exceptional hunting grounds gazillions of carebears, tonns of easy kills. my personal record - 13 bships killed during one day solo (on 2 accounts =)) RA killborad -> Stybbe -> 2006.06.25 ------------------- Killing in Omist =)
dralid Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.18 08:06:00 - [103] Why people still reply to posts/threads of nameless alts in noobcorps to explain themselves is a mystery to me. Ignore the alts! -- All lies!
Lydia Brightlance Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.18 08:23:00 - [104] Originally by: Ka Ten mmm Omist =) exceptional hunting grounds gazillions of carebears, tonns of easy kills. my personal record - 13 bships killed during one day solo (on 2 accounts =)) RA killborad -> Stybbe -> 2006.06.25 /me stares /me dies laughing Oh, that is rich. 1. You didn't post your deaths there 2. I distinctly remember that we killed your Thanatos whem we were still up there 3. How many Astartes did you loose when we lived in Omist? Yes, we may have lost a few ships to you, Stybbe, but it is very easy for a lone pilot with an infinite amount of Astartes and a bought account with millions of skillpoints to score a few kills on relatively new pilots in mere battleships (and to be honest, mostly cruisers) in a ratting setup. We all know your Stybbe account is only there to distract the Omist people from taking the 8/10 complex. Which you farm every single day. Besides, with the logoff tactics we have seen from you, along with the MWD & multiple MWS fittings you use your death count is rather impressive.
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.18 08:25:00 - [105] Originally by: dralid Why people still reply to posts/threads of nameless alts in noobcorps to explain themselves is a mystery to me. Ignore the alts! One day Alt nation alliance will be born and all of you will be doomed. Anyway, I hoped something more interesting would came when i read the title of thread. Then I saw first post and sudenly went to sleep. And then I read many posts by LV thinking..."What are they posting about and why?". It just came to me...somebody call them pussies (in a way)...and therefor that many posts followed soon after. And since I saw in this "not particular interesting" thread many posts by Velios....only one thing came to my mind..."where there is a smoke, fire shouldnt be far away" DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
Drilla Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 08:42:00 - [106] FYI, RA brought what, a carrier, a dread and some BS to the 'carebears' in Omist and woke up in a cloning station. We didnt even have to go there as the 'carebears' wanted some action and RA lost 2 capital ships. Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
Max Teranous Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 08:50:00 - [107] Now now Darcuese, are you telling me no BoB members ever reply to a BoB related thread, even if it is started by an alt? It's a post about LV, so I/we post. It was also moved from general discussion, BTW. Any entity in the game who is capable of "bringing it" to our space also is capable of scouting it out and understands the concept that a 60-80 man gang can't take 3 of our stations in under 2 days Max
Ilmonstre Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.18 09:27:00 - [108] Originally by: Max Teranous Now now Darcuese, are you telling me no BoB members ever reply to a BoB related thread, even if it is started by an alt? It's a post about LV, so I/we post. It was also moved from general discussion, BTW. Any entity in the game who is capable of "bringing it" to our space also is capable of scouting it out and understands the concept that a 60-80 man gang can't take 3 of our stations in under 2 days just ignore him MAX i do it annywayz
Elve Sorrow Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.18 09:36:00 - [109] I wonder if i could program a macro to post "Bring it." everytime one of you bark-but-no-bite lot posts. Probably get me banned.
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.18 09:57:00 - [110] Originally by: Max Teranous Now now Darcuese, are you telling me no BoB members ever reply to a BoB related thread, even if it is started by an alt? Lol, not at all....But to explain what i have said and understand you would have to see some older threads where Velios and Treeberd posted more then enough...and a bit later outcome of situation it was disccused DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
Ka Ten Aliastra	Posted - 2006.07.18 10:29:00 - [111] Edited by: Ka Ten on 18/07/2006 10:33:16 Edited by: Ka Ten on 18/07/2006 10:30:30 Originally by: Lydia Brightlance Edited by: Lydia Brightlance on 18/07/2006 08:26:08 /me stares /me dies laughing Oh, that is rich. 1. You didn't post your deaths there 2. I distinctly remember that we killed your Thanatos whem we were still up there 3. How many Astartes did you loose when we lived in Omist? Yes, we may have lost a few ships to you, Stybbe, but it is very easy for a lone pilot with an infinite amount of Astartes and a bought account with millions of skillpoints to score a few kills on relatively new pilots in mere battleships (and to be honest, mostly cruisers) in a ratting setup. We all know your Stybbe account is only there to distract the Omist people from taking the 8/10 complex. Which you farm every single day. Besides, with the logoff tactics we have seen from you, along with the MWD & multiple WCS fittings you use your death count is rather impressive. 1. My enemyes posting my losses for me =) http://eve-ams.net <- everything are there 2. any other ice age storyes? 3. see #1 "a few" = 356 kills including 100+ battleships, some of which dropped nice B-Type stuff like xl shield boosters =) Stybbe in Omist becouse its fun to be there. Its not very healthy to fight in chokepoints - crap loot, and pretty dangerous =) Actually its very profitable to gank in Omist, during 2.5 month of killing carebears there i made 5+ billions only on loot =) Logoff, yeah i admit, when you gather BLOB and locking me in a system i prefer to log off. Remember, no BLOB = no win =) MWD - whats wrong with it? WCS - check killmails, find fitted wcs and i give you a cookie =) kill/loss ration - about 50 to 1, soon i'll be all-time #1 on RA killboard =))) p.s. i've made some fraps, so expect movie soon =) ------------------- Killing in Omist =)
Max Teranous Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 10:40:00 - [112] Originally by: Ka Ten [ WCS - check killmails, find fitted wcs and i give you a cookie =) Linkage Please forward my cookie to [email protected] Max
M0535 M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 10:44:00 - [113] Stybbe has actively said in local that they do not post lossmails. It makes no difference. and in reference to the main post.... yawn. People carebear, get over it -------
Ka Ten Aliastra	Posted - 2006.07.18 10:45:00 - [114] that was before i came to omist =) ------------------- Killing in Omist =)
Burlock Ironfist Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 10:45:00 - [115] Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Ka Ten [ WCS - check killmails, find fitted wcs and i give you a cookie =) Linkage Please forward my cookie to [email protected] owned "opinions our my own thank you very much"
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 10:49:00 - [116] Originally by: Ka Ten "a few" = 356 kills including 100+ battleships, some of which dropped nice B-Type stuff like xl shield boosters =) Arch Angel ships don't count, fyi. --------
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 10:54:00 - [117] Hey Darcuese, I only reply to threads when somebody is speaking a load of crap, hence why I am replying to you and your "smoke without fire" rubbish. Have a nice day M.Corp BPC Packages
Treebeard dk M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 10:58:00 - [118] Edited by: Treebeard dk on 18/07/2006 11:00:52 Originally by: Darcuese Originally by: Max Teranous Now now Darcuese, are you telling me no BoB members ever reply to a BoB related thread, even if it is started by an alt? Lol, not at all....But to explain what i have said and understand you would have to see some older threads where Velios and Treeberd posted more then enough...and a bit later outcome of situation it was disccused You of all people should know that both me and Velios strive to make the place look nice and tidy at all times, if something is wrong or if someone has got the wrong idea about howthe place should look, we try to explain them how it should be, if people dont listen, dont clean up in their room or simply dont like our home, then they are free to leave or if the mess is the room is bad enough, they get kiced out. The fact that you need to comment this being an old M.corp member yourself, beats me and the choice you made to join at that time ATUK seems to suit your ego better, if you had the true M.corp spirit you would have kept comments like this to yourself. EDIT: DAMMIT Vel, you need to get a job soon m8, you are faster than me
Milkminer Independent Frontiers	Posted - 2006.07.18 11:00:00 - [119] Edited by: Milkminer on 18/07/2006 11:02:17 Omist was my first taste of 0.0 space. It was back in Xetic, it was a nice region far from the watching eye of the empire dwelers and as such it had a low population as 60 jumps was just to much for the everyday gamer. So the region was blessed with low rates fo pirates and bountyfull mining ops which filled hangers with all kinds of colourful ore and minerals. After the fall of Xetic I left, but Omist always felt like home, not because it was a carebear haven but because of the peace and quiet that can exsist in 0.0 with almost no work. Not every region in 0.0 need to filled with frozon corpse. Sure hardcore miners shouldnt be left alone for extended peroids of time in 0.0 as they do need to be reminded that this isnt empire, but the random pirate trip or siege often have the same effect as it always has. It sounds like the original poster dont like the region to me, Omist has always been that way, and will remain to do so long after you depart from Eve. P.S I have more skills in combat than industry by along way, after reading the post again and coupling it with my name I come across as a hardcore carebear when I like to kill alot more Originally by: John Moscroft Goons are a renewable resource. There are no recruitment problems.
Grimpak Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.18 11:11:00 - [120] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Originally by: Murphy Amazing how little this alt knows of the politics of the area. What this alt has failed to notice is there's really only 4 ways into omist. Through more LV territory, through AXE then ASCN territory, through stain and then ASCN territory, or through Chimp space then LV space...... Now being that omist is all in our backyards do you really think we want a hostile force to move in and de-stabilize the region behind us all? Do you really think we'd just sit back and let forces that are neutral to us and hostile to our friends move through our space? It amazes me that Murphy would post anything about a hostile force, (an enemy Fleet), moving through hostile territory. Murphy clearly has no clue how a fleet operates and moves. No hostile fleet would ever announce or forcast it's presence. Nor would the fleet let you know it's target. A fleet could travel through several Regions unopposed. In many cases, a fleet will only face token resistance before it reaches it's targeted solarsystems. Resistance from mostly passers-by caught at the wrong place at the wrong time. No fleet will wait for you to raise an opposition force large enough to threaten them. An invasion fleet would temporarily have it's targets secured and any and all gates sealed off. All POSs would be down to 25% shields, in reinforced mode and system sovereignty would be contested. All done long before defenders can react. Sure, there is more to it than that. Certainly not worth mention here. Move along, please. OMG! .....go learn how to use a map plzkthkx oh and of course that the fleet wouldn't go unnoticed, afterall they don't pass thru a very widely used route (impass(AXE)-> feythabolis (ASCN)-> omist) for ASCN and AXE, nor they go thru 2 station systems in ASCN territory (C9N and AZN) wich have some people, nor they go thru even more LV space, nor even thru CHIMP space. tell me, oh great fleet tactician, that I hope you are, how can you move a fully complemented invasion fleet with capital support and stuffs, when you: a: have the "jumps in last hour" option in map and b: have the option "cyno fields open" option in the map also tell me how do you fight POS wars. REALY! I want to know from such great master as you appear to be! ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.18 11:24:00 - [121] Edited by: Darcuese on 18/07/2006 11:24:59 Originally by: Velios Hey Darcuese, I only reply to threads when somebody is speaking a load of crap, hence why I am replying to you and your "smoke without fire" rubbish. Have a nice day Yeah, only on rubbish I suggest you go search for yourself another "rubbish" alt thread about possibility of Mcorp joining RA and leaving The 5 without word. As I recall, you said it was a crap along Treeberd, and only 1-2 day after that famous chat log saw the light of EVE-o Sun. And Dont make me search some other logs where you talk about one thing and reality prove out to be completely different. As I said, whenever you see Velios or Treeberd posting as much as in this thread, beliave me that where is a smoke, fire is not far either Have a nice day, Im only here to put some more deeper heat in to this not so interesting thread....and to mess with Velios DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
Bazman Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.18 11:27:00 - [122] Darceuse, what are you talking about? LV has done an excellent job in reguards to Omist, how anyone can claim any different is beyond me. ----- Hi TUXFORD! Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks. I am a Gallente whiner.
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.18 11:34:00 - [123] Edited by: Darcuese on 18/07/2006 11:35:14 Originally by: Bazman Darceuse, what are you talking about? LV has done an excellent job in reguards to Omist, how anyone can claim any different is beyond me. Lol, Im not saying you didnt. Ah, I wish I could explain some things differently then i ussualy do. Somehow I have ability puting fog in to ppl mind I just changing tracks so the rytham would change DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 11:53:00 - [124] Oh Darcuese, don't try to paint pictures that are simply untrue to try and grab yourself the attention / interest you so desperately seek on the forums. ò M.Corp have never attempted / desired to join RA ffs, RA are and have been since we were members of the five our most bitter enemy, but then again as an atuk member yourself you wouldn't appreciate much about commitment to fighting RA. ò M.Corp were already committed to leaving the five at the time of that infamous chat log you seem so eager to re-post. We wanted some space from RA alongside all the other corps that founded LV so stop laying on the betrayed girlfriend act. The five by that time had become little more than an atuk fiefdom to many in the alliance, so we were eager to leave and strike out on our own, it's also interesting to note that many ex-five corporations are now LV corporations. Stop baiting me into replying to your mindless drivel darcuesse. I somehow think you enjoy posting crap knowing that I'll always come back to counter your lies.
Lydia Brightlance Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.18 11:55:00 - [125] Originally by: Ka Ten Edited by: Ka Ten on 18/07/2006 10:33:16 Edited by: Ka Ten on 18/07/2006 10:30:30 Originally by: Lydia Brightlance Edited by: Lydia Brightlance on 18/07/2006 08:26:08 /me stares /me dies laughing Oh, that is rich. 1. You didn't post your deaths there 2. I distinctly remember that we killed your Thanatos whem we were still up there 3. How many Astartes did you loose when we lived in Omist? Yes, we may have lost a few ships to you, Stybbe, but it is very easy for a lone pilot with an infinite amount of Astartes and a bought account with millions of skillpoints to score a few kills on relatively new pilots in mere battleships (and to be honest, mostly cruisers) in a ratting setup. We all know your Stybbe account is only there to distract the Omist people from taking the 8/10 complex. Which you farm every single day. Besides, with the logoff tactics we have seen from you, along with the MWD & multiple WCS fittings you use your death count is rather impressive. 1. My enemyes posting my losses for me =) http://eve-ams.net <- everything are there 2. any other ice age storyes? 3. see #1 "a few" = 356 kills including 100+ battleships, some of which dropped nice B-Type stuff like xl shield boosters =) Stybbe in Omist becouse its fun to be there. Its not very healthy to fight in chokepoints - crap loot, and pretty dangerous =) Actually its very profitable to gank in Omist, during 2.5 month of killing carebears there i made 5+ billions only on loot =) Logoff, yeah i admit, when you gather BLOB and locking me in a system i prefer to log off. Remember, no BLOB = no win =) MWD - whats wrong with it? WCS - check killmails, find fitted wcs and i give you a cookie =) kill/loss ration - about 50 to 1, soon i'll be all-time #1 on RA killboard =))) p.s. i've made some fraps, so expect movie soon =) Hmmm, I must admit that you do have a few points and at least you are honest about your actions. Actually, I have to thank you, Stybbe, as your small harrassment flights through Omist made me see the fun in PvP. You have been a great practise for me personally. In all honesty, you madse Omist a more interesting place and your attacks are very good to keep people alert and on their toes. In the end, I guess you do more good then bad for Omist. A small enemy to practise on and keep you on your toes is very much needed in 0.0 or else you fall asleep and won't bge able to react when it is truly needed. I wish I could have seen the inside of that 8/10 complex more then once a week, though. (As for WCS on your Astartes... I have had you warp off while I scrambled you more then once, but since I cannot prove you warping off I'll drop that specific point).
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.18 12:18:00 - [126] Originally by: Velios Stop baiting me into replying to your mindless drivel darcuesse. I somehow think you enjoy posting crap knowing that I'll always come back to counter your lies. Why you taking my bait then? Stay of forum and leave it for Enslaver (he is at least more interesting to read). You keep on with VEL diplomacy in game DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
Treebeard dk M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 12:19:00 - [127] Edited by: Treebeard dk on 18/07/2006 12:23:35 I actually wish to thank our n00b-alt-friend who started this thread, its the best advertisement you can get if you seek corps to move into Omist and this sort of advertisement should bring in even more corps who wish to experience the 0.0 life and help making it an even better place and make it possible for us to build even more outposts to develop the area so thank you n00b-alt-friend. EDIT: Typos
Xaarist FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 12:42:00 - [128] OT i sense there are still a lot of things to talk out between former .5. members, but since this thread is about omist (yes, it's ridiculous, but still it's about omist) i don't quite get it how that 1000times discussed topic came in here again. i see who brought it in, but i can't grasp why. if you have to talk it out, do it in convos. to a person who has been living in the southeast for most of the time it looks like nobody is right for 100%. i have my own points of view on the whole .5. matter as should have everybody else. and i don't have any problems keeping it out of here. follow my example please. i have lots of friends in ATUK and they earned my respect although they are my enemies atm. this is how things go in EVE. you fly with them, you fight against them, i really don't see the point of these ongoing grudges. /OT ---------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination. ...if you don't know Happy Tree Friends, just imagine Teletubbies on LSD...
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.18 12:48:00 - [129] Edited by: Darcuese on 18/07/2006 12:50:12 hehe Xaaris. Good point. But all I said can be put in to sentence I wrote in my first post in this thread "Where is a smoke , fire is not far away" And that was/is my opinion regarding this subject. Its not my fault someone took "bait" and this other "non-relative to this subject" things came out DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
Treebeard dk M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 13:09:00 - [130] Edited by: Treebeard dk on 18/07/2006 13:13:10 Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 18/07/2006 12:50:12 hehe Xaaris. Good point. But all I said can be put in to sentence I wrote in my first post in this thread "Where is a smoke , fire is not far away" And that was/is my opinion regarding this subject. Its not my fault someone took "bait" and this other "non-relative to this subject" things came out Since you wanna keep messing about in the "fire-department" I'd like to add that there is usually not smoke unless someone use a lighter to lit the dry wood and someone to place the dry wood there in the first place, I think you are always looking for a place to drop a load of dry wood and when the time is right, you just walk by with that lighter of yours and make a fire. Noone called you m8, this thread has absolutly nothing to do with you, you left the area and the alliance and the corp long ago, who cares what your opinion on this is and dont try to take this out on either me or Velios, replying in a thread and explaining how things are in an are where some people work hard to keep running aint starting any fires but if I may ask a question in return why do YOU keep posting here?? Is there smoke because of that too? EDIT: Typos
Pride NL Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 14:15:00 - [131] Edited by: Pride NL on 18/07/2006 14:19:17 Divide & Conquer Tactics Reds - LV's 0 - 2 2nd try for these tactics i've seen. 2nd time it failed. Give up, LV is doing a good job and we will secure the place when its needed to. Uptill now the locals can do it themselves and they succeed in it too. This is merely a cry from a homeless requesting an attack on Omist so the homeless can proceed with their poss spamming. Edit: This is truly the best thread ever!
Eric carr Crisis Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 18:37:00 - [132] Stybbe isent allowed to post here cuz it makes me sad that one of the more funnier in the swedish eve-community has now become a russian speaking soldier Please only use english in your signature - Jacques([email protected])
Evil Thug Rage and Terror	Posted - 2006.07.18 19:00:00 - [133] Originally by: Grimpak tell me, oh great fleet tactician, that I hope you are, how can you move a fully complemented invasion fleet with capital support and stuffs, when you: a: have the "jumps in last hour" option in map and b: have the option "cyno fields open" option in the map Coming from ASCN member... Yes, thats rich. Mr. Smart why you didn`t prevent 3 freighters from dying ? Back ontopic. Yesterday i wanted to post few comments here, typed my post, and then i pushed "back" button in my browser. To LV guys. Just remember about : "Friend in need - is a friend in deed" (sp ?). You haven`t been put under pressure since your creation. This fact could play very dangerous role for you. Rage and Terror - making people quit EVE.
Grimpak Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.18 19:26:00 - [134] Edited by: Grimpak on 18/07/2006 19:26:26 Originally by: Evil Thug Coming from ASCN member... Yes, thats rich. Mr. Smart why you didn`t prevent 3 freighters from dying ? Oh my. So you're going personal now? I gave my opinion regarding that alt's lack of knowlege. No reason to go that mad, unless it's your alt. Or do you have such a big beef with us that you even start spewing flames like the angry gnat you are at every opportunity? ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
Mang0o Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.18 19:27:00 - [135] Originally by: Evil Thug Originally by: Grimpak tell me, oh great fleet tactician, that I hope you are, how can you move a fully complemented invasion fleet with capital support and stuffs, when you: a: have the "jumps in last hour" option in map and b: have the option "cyno fields open" option in the map Coming from ASCN member... Yes, thats rich. Mr. Smart why you didn`t prevent 3 freighters from dying ? Back ontopic. Yesterday i wanted to post few comments here, typed my post, and then i pushed "back" button in my browser. To LV guys. Just remember about : "Friend in need - is a friend in deed" (sp ?). You haven`t been put under pressure since your creation. This fact could play very dangerous role for you. evil thug is just mad that im ASCN.. its okej let him just chill down for a bit I love you Mang0o, take a guess why -Eris
Grimpak Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.18 19:36:00 - [136] Originally by: Mang0o Originally by: Evil Thug Originally by: Grimpak tell me, oh great fleet tactician, that I hope you are, how can you move a fully complemented invasion fleet with capital support and stuffs, when you: a: have the "jumps in last hour" option in map and b: have the option "cyno fields open" option in the map Coming from ASCN member... Yes, thats rich. Mr. Smart why you didn`t prevent 3 freighters from dying ? Back ontopic. Yesterday i wanted to post few comments here, typed my post, and then i pushed "back" button in my browser. To LV guys. Just remember about : "Friend in need - is a friend in deed" (sp ?). You haven`t been put under pressure since your creation. This fact could play very dangerous role for you. evil thug is just mad that im ASCN.. its okej let him just chill down for a bit ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
Evil Thug Rage and Terror	Posted - 2006.07.18 19:41:00 - [137] Originally by: Grimpak Edited by: Grimpak on 18/07/2006 19:26:26 Originally by: Evil Thug Coming from ASCN member... Yes, thats rich. Mr. Smart why you didn`t prevent 3 freighters from dying ? Oh my. So you're going personal now? I gave my opinion regarding that alt's lack of knowlege. No reason to go that mad, unless it's your alt. Or do you have such a big beef with us that you even start spewing flames like the angry gnat you are at every opportunity? I don`t use alts in this section of forums. You were unable to catch our trap on the route, that your alliance used for more than month, and now you are talking about how uber eve-map is. I found that strange, and point this fact to you. mang0o. You are newb <3 Rage and Terror - making people quit EVE.
Grimpak Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.18 19:55:00 - [138] Originally by: Evil Thug Originally by: Grimpak Edited by: Grimpak on 18/07/2006 19:26:26 Originally by: Evil Thug Coming from ASCN member... Yes, thats rich. Mr. Smart why you didn`t prevent 3 freighters from dying ? Oh my. So you're going personal now? I gave my opinion regarding that alt's lack of knowlege. No reason to go that mad, unless it's your alt. Or do you have such a big beef with us that you even start spewing flames like the angry gnat you are at every opportunity? I don`t use alts in this section of forums. You were unable to catch our trap on the route, that your alliance used for more than month, and now you are talking about how uber eve-map is. I found that strange, and point this fact to you. mang0o. You are newb <3 well not everyones' perfect, and I remember people reporting a massive log out in the channel. ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
Aeleva Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.18 20:11:00 - [139] Ive lived in omist for 2 years (hah) and its always been a bit hostile. Recently the trouble has been small groups flying though and killing anything they can. They run like mad from us once we have a gang together or just log off. Log off tactic is a common one in Omist. It can be a real pain to try and remove good PVPers once they are setup somewhere. Responce could be better but ive never before seen so many people in omist willing to try and help defend even if they dont have the experiance.
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.18 22:44:00 - [140] -LV- , About the comment one of your members made about your POSs totaling into the three digits, within Omist Region. I believe there was also mention that there were simply too many POSs to take offline before sov. could be contested... before the area could be reinforced with -LV- presence. Well, last night I sent my trusty little scout out to system Z-7OK1 to reinvestigate. Z-7OK1 is one of three solarsystems within Omist Region that has a conquerable station. Z-7OK1 has ten anchored control towers. Of which, only two are currently online. Those two have minimal defences, each have two Medium Autocannon. The other eight towers are just that, towers... ========================================================= About an earlier post I made in this thread about fleet movement and detection. I should have been more clear with my choice of words, I admit. Surely any fleet, at some point, will become noticed. Though, knowing about the presence of a fleet and actualy having the time to get in front of that fleet to stop them are two very different things.... and looking at your map will not show you any reliable info giving you the conclusion of an oncomming invasion. The map is far too borked and updates are far too slow. Clynofield detection from the map? Cynofields are constantly in use around Omist and Feythabolis, did I mention the map's slow updates? As current conditions are, Feythabolis and Omist do not have the numbers, near key choke points, needed to slow down or stop any fleet that was put together for the purpose of sovereignty capture. As I said before in another post, unless -LV- and it's allies know of a fleet being formed up and it's intentions, there will be nothing to stop that fleet. Untill AFTER it has reached it's target. Of course, it takes about five days to actualy claim sovereignty. This game mechanic is in place to avoid the "I-win" style of midnight blitzkrieg invasions.
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.18 23:03:00 - [141] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen -LV- , About the comment one of your members made about your POSs totaling into the three digits, within Omist Region. I believe there was also mention that there were simply too many POSs to take offline before sov. could be contested... before the area could be reinforced with -LV- presence. Well, last night I sent my trusty little scout out to system Z-7OK1 to reinvestigate. Z-7OK1 is one of three solarsystems within Omist Region that has a conquerable station. Z-7OK1 has ten anchored control towers. Of which, only two are currently online. Those two have minimal defences, each have two Medium Autocannon. The other eight towers are just that, towers... ========================================================= About an earlier post I made in this thread about fleet movement and detection. I should have been more clear with my choice of words, I admit. Surely any fleet, at some point, will become noticed. Though, knowing about the presence of a fleet and actualy having the time to get in front of that fleet to stop them are two very different things.... and looking at your map will not show you any reliable info giving you the conclusion of an oncomming invasion. The map is far too borked and updates are far too slow. Clynofield detection from the map? Cynofields are constantly in use around Omist and Feythabolis, did I mention the map's slow updates? As current conditions are, Feythabolis and Omist do not have the numbers, near key choke points, needed to slow down or stop any fleet that was put together for the purpose of sovereignty capture. As I said before in another post, unless -LV- and it's allies know of a fleet being formed up and it's intentions, there will be nothing to stop that fleet. Untill AFTER it has reached it's target. Of course, it takes about five days to actualy claim sovereignty. This game mechanic is in place to avoid the "I-win" style of midnight blitzkrieg invasions. Su'Kar, we know who you are already. We have read your proposal to the Omist council (remember that we also hold a seat on it). Well... Maybe we will play with you first, before just plain destroying you. To be totally frank, so many ideas of how to deal with you are now doing through my head, Sy. --------
Chowdown Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.18 23:10:00 - [142] Darcuese be quiet
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.18 23:21:00 - [143] Velios, I'm shocked that you haven't asked members of -LV- to refrain from posting here. It is clear that many of your members have little clue and are forced to attack my comments in ways that never prove them wrong. Their attacks are aimed at the fact I'm using an alt account with a noob character and they add comments with the intent to mislead and debunk things I've said. Might I suggest, approach all viewers here with logic and facts. Maybe then these viewers will see there is no smoke and there is no fire. Currently, your members only feed fuel while trying to debunk me. I'll simply add the oxygen with my, mostly factual, comments. At some point somone is going to light that fire.
Chowdown Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.18 23:24:00 - [144] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Velios, I'm shocked that you haven't asked members of -LV- to refrain from posting here. It is clear that many of your members have little clue and are forced to attack my comments in ways that never prove them wrong. Their attacks are aimed at the fact I'm using an alt account with a noob character and they add comments with the intent to mislead and debunk things I've said. Might I suggest, approach all viewers here with logic and facts. Maybe then these viewers will see there is no smoke and there is no fire. Currently, your members only feed fuel while trying to debunk me. I'll simply add the oxygen with my, mostly factual, comments. At some point somone is going to light that fire. STFU
Chowdown Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.18 23:33:00 - [145] Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen Originally by: The Enslaver Edited by: The Enslaver on 18/07/2006 23:14:17 Su'Kar, we know who you are already. We have read your proposal to the Omist council (remember that we also hold a seat on it). Well... Maybe we will play with you first, before just plain destroying you. To be totally frank, so many ideas of how to deal with you are now going through my head, Sy. ....and it's a shame noone gave it any though. No thought what so ever. I was told you, simply laughed about it after I left comms. We are each entitled to an opinion. None the less, that has nothing to do with my current intentions. As I've said, I'm not angry but I am looking for change within the Region. Omist needs to be cleansed and noone in Omist wishes to do it. So, I'll hang some meat out for the wolves to find. Once the wolves find the meat, they will be close enough to the cuboard and smell all the hidden goodies within. Interesting STFU
WildHope Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.18 23:42:00 - [146] Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 18/07/2006 12:50:12 hehe Xaaris. Good point. But all I said can be put in to sentence I wrote in my first post in this thread "Where is a smoke , fire is not far away" And that was/is my opinion regarding this subject. Its not my fault someone took "bait" and this other "non-relative to this subject" things came out I bet you wish you were significant. Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen ....and it's a shame noone gave it any though. No thought what so ever. I was told you, simply laughed about it after I left comms. We are each entitled to an opinion. None the less, that has nothing to do with my current intentions. As I've said, I'm not angry but I am looking for change within the Region. Omist needs to be cleansed and noone in Omist wishes to do it. So, I'll hang some meat out for the wolves to find. Once the wolves find the meat, they will be close enough to the cuboard and smell all the hidden goodies within. I bet you wish your main wasn't in RA Wildhope ShinRa Curse Alliance (may it last 1000 generations) Alter the 'CTRL Q' Invulnerability button
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.18 23:44:00 - [147] Originally by: Chowdown STFU Your trolling comments add nothing constructive here. Same goes for your sig. I find it offensive... Classic...
Su'Kar Vladen	Posted - 2006.07.18 23:48:00 - [148] Originally by: WildHope I bet you wish your main wasn't in RA Well, I believe I have proven more than enough that I'm very much an active Omist Resident. move along, you offer nothing constructive here.
Sparky II	Posted - 2006.07.18 23:51:00 - [149] hey there sygan hows things m8? from 1 alt to another i meen yer alt being su'kar vladen
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.19 00:07:00 - [150] This is pathetic. --NOTE TO ALL ALLIANCES WHO HOLD TERRITORY-- If your alliance finds itself in the position where it has some space to accommodate sponsor corps, please be advised that with that responsibility will come certain pathetic individuals, that no matter how "cosy" their situation is will always feel bitter at their lack of authority / independence / achievement and will do their best to undermine the efforts of their hosts at every opportunity. Such unfortunate individuals will also be fed off by true enemies of the alliance who opportunistically use the later alt to push their totally irrelevant arguments and opinions into the thread (yeah that's you Darcuese, you complete and utter nobody) and you too Evil Thug (massive forum warrior extraordinaire) The lesson here, is that no matter how successful your operation, no matter how hard you try to accommodate everyone living within your space, there will always be people that will try to destroy it on the forum. My only advice though, is that if you have your game together they will fail miserably and retire back to the insignificant cave they came from. Words can only hurt if backed up by actions. BTW. To those of you wishing to drop names as to who the true face behind Mr. Alt really is, please desist unless you have conclusive proof. LV is not dictated by mob rule, be sure that if LV know who it is then we will eject that corp without a moments notice. This is afterall why LV control all the stations, so we can eject the idiots and let the good people prosper.
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.19 00:08:00 - [151] ...and yes. I do want a cookie.
SyGan Caldari Deep Space Ventures Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2006.07.19 00:39:00 - [152] Hail My Fellow DSA/ Omist residents.... I can see that some peep's have / Or are attemping to minipulate, this forums to stirr the Crap... First Off I stand in support of -LV- / M.Corp / and all of those residents that share the regions of Omist. Yes I might have been abiot vocal to Governer but our conversations are between HIM and ME... I have Been in OMist since the Days of thr GREAT WARS.. I concider Omist My Home.. and withthe agreements I have fostered with Spcok.. We will stay in Omist and pledge so with that said.. I want to Offically go on record as a staunch supporter of Governore Tassolhoff and those whom allow US = CDSV /CDSI and our brothers and systers of the residents of omsit. As for your CareBear comment.. Blowe it out your back side... Carebares put those resources up for the expanshion of Omist and with out Us " CareBears " you all would flying Ibis's. Carebeara Build economies... economies build Alliances.. and allicance Build EVE... So I am sorry you feel your effort's in Omist have been in vain.. but NOTHING is Free in the " Verse ".. But with a strong economie as it is in omist.. we will have our Burden's.. but that will make US stronger... Salute Omist.. Salute -LV- and Salute to those have made the commitment to make " Community " of Omist..... Cheer's..... Sygan CEO CDSV / CDSI Council of Omist By Invitation of Shinra Resident of Omist CEO-CDSV
butchcazzidy	Posted - 2006.07.19 02:47:00 - [153] The time has come to close this worthless thread.
Crellion	Posted - 2006.07.19 02:51:00 - [154] Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Ka Ten [ WCS - check killmails, find fitted wcs and i give you a cookie =) Linkage Please forward my cookie to [email protected] Thats not fair. (1) That wcs was probably loot from Beyond Horizon's BB. Styb was just carrying it for him. (2) That was a Mega. All RA fleet set ups carry wcs. Lets see an Astarte death mail with wcs. (3) Talking about his Astarte... how does he kill all your BSs? He has my Ishkur webbed at blaster optimal a few days ago and couldnt take me past shields in the 90 secs b4 he popped. (there is a bit of misinformation here but I am curious to see if he will step up to set the record straight )

Serathu	Posted - 2006.07.19 02:55:00 - [155] Locked due to trolling, flaming and because this has pretty much run its course. -Serathu- Lieutenant of CRC Interstellar Services Department [email protected]


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