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Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
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Posted - 2014.08.11 01:11:00 -
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New pilot here, less than a week in, but I have signed up for 6 months. Loving it so far and I am excited to get involved with the community.
As a lover of MMO politics and intrique, I am very interested in hearing about some of the notable history that has reigned (heard about what happened with BoB), and more importantly, tell me about the current power structure. In particular:
1. Which corporation dominates (Goonsworm?), and how strong is their alliance?
2. What are the competing Alliances?
3. From casual reading so far, I don't hear much about massive wars between competing Alliances. Why is that? Are the so-called PvP powerhouses more interested in carebearish ISK sucking activities and hesitance at sending expensive ships to war with each other?
4. If there is a dominating Alliance, can it reasonably be broken? If so, what's preventing this from happening?
Clearly, I am hoping to see a chaotic galaxy as that would be more fun to pilot in. Hope you fine folks can shed some light on things for me.
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.08.11 01:14:00 -
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This should be interesting. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
cpu939
Eternal Darkness. Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2014.08.11 01:28:00 -
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1. Which corporation dominates (Goonsworm?), and how strong is their alliance?
GoonWaffe, it's over 9000
2. What are the competing Alliances?
loads
3. From casual reading so far, I don't hear much about massive wars between competing Alliances. Why is that? Are the so-called PvP powerhouses more interested in carebearish ISK sucking activities and hesitance at sending expensive ships to war with each other?
read more you'll find it out.
4. If there is a dominating Alliance, can it reasonably be broken? If so, what's preventing this from happening?
yes, yes, good leadership
Clearly, I am hoping to see a chaotic galaxy as that would be more fun to pilot in. Hope you fine folks can shed some light on things for me.
this is eve things can and will chnge over night
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
5857
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Posted - 2014.08.11 01:32:00 -
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Charax Bouclier wrote:1. Which corporation dominates (Goonsworm?), and how strong is their alliance? Goonswarm is Goonswarm (or is it Goonwaffle?)
They are no stronger than anyone else in the game... they just have more bodies than most at their disposal and lots of money to put said bodies in ships.
Charax Bouclier wrote:2. What are the competing Alliances? You are going to have to specify here. There are as many alliances as there are players here (400,000+) and they all compete against one another... even ones that are supposedly allied with each other.
Charax Bouclier wrote:3. From casual reading so far, I don't hear much about massive wars between competing Alliances. Why is that? Are the so-called PvP powerhouses more interested in carebearish ISK sucking activities and hesitance at sending expensive ships to war with each other? A little from column A... a little from column B.
Also... wars in EVE are fought more with words, meta, diplomacy, and subterfuge rather than soldiers filling the battlefields at dawn and slaughtering each other until dusk.
Charax Bouclier wrote:4. If there is a dominating Alliance, can it reasonably be broken? If so, what's preventing this from happening? By force? Nope. It would require too much time, money, and willpower. This is a game after all.
But that doesn't mean someone can't press a button like last [2] time[s].
Charax Bouclier wrote:Clearly, I am hoping to see a chaotic galaxy as that would be more fun to pilot in. Come to low-sec. If you don't fly any battleships or capitals, it's a party down here. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?" |
S'Way
Bitter Vets
794
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Posted - 2014.08.11 01:50:00 -
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Who's in charge ? At CCP it's HIlmar.
In game - Whoever can bring the biggest blob.
Charax Bouclier wrote: Clearly, I am hoping to see a chaotic galaxy as that would be more fun to pilot in. .
That's what most of us would like, but it won't happen until CCP fixes null-sec. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.08.11 01:54:00 -
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"who is in charge of this joint?"
Whoever rolls it, controls it. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3758
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:09:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:This should be interesting.
I think UAE is in charge.
Yep, UAE is definitely in charge. yeah, we decided he was the saviour of null sec the other night. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=357667&find=unread =][= |
Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:15:00 -
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Quote:You are going to have to specify here. There are as many alliances as there are players here (400,000+) and they all compete against one another... even ones that are supposedly allied with each other.
When I ask about competing Alliances, I meant ones that are in direct conflict with the controllng Alliance, and are actively doing activities to eat away at their power structure. Does such an Alliance exist?
Oh, one other question. I've come across the term "rental alliance". If I understand the term correctly, do corporations actually pay tribute to a powerful Alliance in order to safely conduct certain activities (mining) in nul sec space? Are the people here really that downtrodden and lack self-respect that they do this?
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Jered Hakaaros
GeoCorp. Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:27:00 -
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Charax Bouclier wrote:Quote:You are going to have to specify here. There are as many alliances as there are players here (400,000+) and they all compete against one another... even ones that are supposedly allied with each other. When I ask about competing Alliances, I meant ones that are in direct conflict with the controllng Alliance, and are actively doing activities to eat away at their power structure. Does such an Alliance exist? Oh, one other question. I've come across the term "rental alliance". If I understand the term correctly, do corporations actually pay tribute to a powerful Alliance in order to safely conduct certain activities (mining) in nul sec space? Are the people here really that downtrodden and lack self-respect that they do this?
Eve isnt primarily about fighting, its about business. If its more economical to rent than to fight, most ppl will choose to do it. And it definitely is at the moment. You can harass a large bloc a bit, but fight them for sov you cannot, except when another big bloc is fully backing you. Which at the moment is not economical for any bloc to do :)
Any players who actually do want to fight are too few and are given too few tools to do so effectively. Welcome to current nullsec. |
Angeal MacNova
LankTech Masters of Flying Objects
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:46:00 -
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Suspect OP is a seasoned player. Questions 3 and 4 (particularly with the wording) sound suspicious. |
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Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
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Posted - 2014.08.11 03:04:00 -
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Angeal MacNova wrote:Suspect OP is a seasoned player. Questions 3 and 4 (particularly with the wording) sound suspicious.
Sir, you flatter me.
My choice of wording was merely to prompt some good responses.
I'm sure if you follow my skill allocation, it will betray my newness. |
Serene Repose
1487
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Posted - 2014.08.11 03:08:00 -
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As you can see - a veritable fountain of "good" information.
Oh, and the one in "charge" of the joint is usually the one who rolled it. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Bryen Verrisai
EVE University Ivy League
235
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Posted - 2014.08.11 03:18:00 -
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1. Depends on where you go. CFC may be one of the biggest players in Null, but most people in WH space couldn't care less about them.
2. Too broad of a question.
3. The sov null powerhouses are extremely risk-averse. Good for business, bad for fun.
4. Complicated question that has been discussed by lots of very intelligent people with no real answer agreed upon. |
Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
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Posted - 2014.08.11 04:02:00 -
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Hello and welcome to EVE
Answers to your questions: 1) Never trust players that tell you who dominates. It's politics ... if you get an intel from a person, you must know his/hers reputation, position and interests in order to decide whether to trust that information or not. So, it's best to extract the information yourself. Here are the couple of links that would help you out with intel gathering and situation status: - EVE Online Coalition Sov 4/14-7/14 - this is an interactive map view of the 3 months of influence changes in EVE. The alliances in this video are grouped into coalitions. - for the alliance level DAILY sovereignty maps, bookmark this link: http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png; - for extremely detailed maps with LIVE information, bookmark this link: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/. It even includes a list of recently built stations (by player alliances), which alliance gained members and which lost some of it's member base, and all sorts of useful stuff.
Now for MY opinion, which you either believe or not (read above ), no corporation, alliance or coalition dominates the game... yet . There are a couple of powerful factions that hold space and all of them entered a cold war period. There is no real measurement of who is more powerful unless they engage in an open war. CFC (coalition around Goonswarm) has a massive number of pilots, N3 coalition (formed around Northern Coalition. ... by the way, they are not the guys in the North... it's an old story ) has massive percentage of veterans and PL (Pandemic Legion alliance) has massive amount of experience on dealing with much larger enemies. Some of the power players are not on the map at all or currently hold minor parts of space (compared to other blocks), but I wouldn't underestimate their enthusiasm. This mainly relates to HERO coalition (TEST, Brave Newbies,...).
Other than sovereignty holding alliances in known space, there are several wormhole based entities that are very powerful, but they are wormhole oriented and not interested in known space politics. It's really a completely different environment with completely different politics, but the fact stays that they do have a fair amount of influence over the W-Space.
2) Answered in #1.
3) Also answered in #1, but I'll repeat and clarify. After the long Halloween war that lasted for several months, there was a massive battle that lasted for days and destroyed an enormous amount of very expensive ships. You can watch official CCP's report here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O56g8KC6CM and real about the battle here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodbath_of_B-R5RB... or just google "bloodbath of B-R5RB. After the end of the war and that massive battle, the summer came to the northern hemisphere where the activity in the game is traditionally lower (sun, beach,... who am I kidding.. ok, it's the Steam summer sale ), so the coalitions went into a state of Cold War. Don't worry, you'll start to see much more action in the Autumn (the last big war was named Halloween war for a reason ).
4) For the answer on whether there is a dominating alliance, read my first answer Regarding breaking one of the powerful alliances (since none of them are dominating in the true sense of that word), it can be done only from the inside and only by the trusted members of those alliances. That would be difficult if not impossible for an outsider to do. On the other hand, crushing any one of them in the game with traditional battle is possible with enough effort, a lot of time, great planning and a lot of deals and friendships made with whoever wants to make it happen. Players, corporations and alliances that form today's most powerful coalitions have been building their empires, fighting for their space and place in the EVE universe and defending it in numerous wars. That would all be for nothing if you can crush everything they have built in a matter of weeks or a couple of months. But if you dedicate to a cause and play to make it happen, yes it can be done. After all Goonswarm is the perfect example of an alliance that had nothing than a bunch of new players in small ships and managed to fight its way through much bigger, older and wealthier enemies in order to get where they are now.
At the end, if you want to participate in a chaotic galaxy, you can do that right now by heading to Providence region. Something always happens in the Providence region no matter what happens in the rest of the game . It's a political ecosystem for itself.
Oh... and make sure to bookmark the two of the most prominent news blogs about politics and EVE in general: - http://themittani.com/ (Goonswarm's news channel... slightly biased, but generally a great source of info) - http://evenews24.com/ (a bit more biased, especially when they are talking against Goonwarm, but overall a great source of information as well) o.0 |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7597
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Posted - 2014.08.11 04:05:00 -
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Angeal MacNova wrote:Suspect OP is a seasoned player. Questions 3 and 4 (particularly with the wording) sound suspicious.
I agree, something doesn't smell right. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.08.11 04:21:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:Suspect OP is a seasoned player. Questions 3 and 4 (particularly with the wording) sound suspicious. I agree, something doesn't smell right. Corp name leads to further questioning of sincerity. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
641
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Posted - 2014.08.11 04:29:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:Suspect OP is a seasoned player. Questions 3 and 4 (particularly with the wording) sound suspicious. I agree, something doesn't smell right. Corp name leads to further questioning of sincerity. not sure if you are talking "in-character" or not
anyway, even if it was a hidden "Grrrr Goons" thread, a bit of objective info would only add the content and prevent the intended troll, if that was the intention in the first place o.0 |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.08.11 04:38:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:not sure if you are talking "in-character" or not Curious comment care to elaborate?
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:anyway, even if it was a hidden "Grrrr Goons" thread, a bit of objective info would only add the content and prevent the intended troll, if that was the intention in the first place I agree, comment was not directed at you, it was a simple observation. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
642
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Posted - 2014.08.11 04:44:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:not sure if you are talking "in-character" or not Curious comment care to elaborate? .
Well, you name is "Paranoid Loyd"
I'm bad at jokes... o.0 |
Paranoid Loyd
1313
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Posted - 2014.08.11 04:52:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:not sure if you are talking "in-character" or not Curious comment care to elaborate? . Well, your name is "Paranoid Loyd" I'm bad at jokes...
That is pretty good.
Forgive me, I was thinking your comments were said in a passive aggressive context as it was similar to comments I wrote in reply to a hate mail I received today, guess I am a little paranoid. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.11 04:57:00 -
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OP, you may be interested in these interviews by Eve Uni: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/EVE_University_Class_Library#Special_Q.26A.27s_with_The_Heads_of_Various_Other_Corps_and_Alliances
The interview with The Mittani is especially interesting and takes you through a very brief overview of the history of Goons.
Also a good read for you: https://wiki.pleaseignore.com/wiki/Dreddit_Corporation_History
The Muppets: P+¦pc++rn (thanks Ria!) "So.. youre saying you cant create content.... because other people are out... creating content?" --United Arab Emirates |
Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
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Posted - 2014.08.11 05:18:00 -
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Comrade Pripravnik,
Thank you for the effort and thought you provided in your response. It was very informative and the type of reply that I was seeking.
Jenn aSide wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:Suspect OP is a seasoned player. Questions 3 and 4 (particularly with the wording) sound suspicious. I agree, something doesn't smell right.
*smells armpits*
Oh sorry, that must be me. Spent some time sucking at rocks for ore and personal hygiene wasn't a high priorirty for me.
Thanks Sibyyl. I'll make sure to give it a read. I'm just trying to get up to warp speed on the landscape and I appreciate the help. :) |
De'Veldrin
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.08.11 14:19:00 -
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Charax Bouclier wrote: Thanks Sibyyl. I'll make sure to give it a read. I'm just trying to get up to warp speed on the landscape and I appreciate the help. :)
The landscape of Eve is a flat, nearly featureless dystopian plain dotted with the sand castles of self important potentates who gather sychphants and drones around them while they play at being king of the sandbox.
Actually I think that makes nullsec sound like a lot more fun than it normally is.
At present all of sovereign null is divided pretty neatly down the middle between two groups, which basically sucks for everyone - them included. Unfortunately, the mess that is the Dominion Sov System (which everyone who actually played the game agreed was a Bad IdeaGäó) is the root cause of many of the problems, and until CCP fixes that, nullsec players will continue to farm Providence and High Sec looking for content that doesn't really satisfy.
The current state of the game is a bit like going from a world class wine with every meal to drinking nothing but grape juice. It's not terrible, but you long for the days when it was better. De'Veldrin's Corallary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
44038
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Posted - 2014.08.11 15:09:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:Suspect OP is a seasoned player. Questions 3 and 4 (particularly with the wording) sound suspicious. I agree, something doesn't smell right. Corp name leads to further questioning of sincerity.
Anybody else suspects that OP might be an alt of Robert Sawyer?
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
78
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Posted - 2014.08.11 15:40:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:Suspect OP is a seasoned player. Questions 3 and 4 (particularly with the wording) sound suspicious. I agree, something doesn't smell right. Corp name leads to further questioning of sincerity. Anybody else suspects that OP might be an alt of Robert Sawyer?
To the OP, you'll notice that most of the players in Eve are bittervets who log on to Eve in order to be able to play World of Tanks with their friends, who they have flown with for years, and who will take every possible measure to pidgeonhole you as an idiot or a spy or in some other way be negative toward you, scam you, kill you, and lie about you and ruin you. As a new player I strongly suggest you look at the HERO coalition (TEST, BRAVE, HONOR, and some other alliances) who are the only nullsec group where this attitude doesn't prevail. Highseccers are usually loners who don't talk much though good groups do come along. Like the poster said about Wormholers, Faction Warfare is a generally unbroken part of Eve that has it's own world and politics. Goonswarm claims to represent noobs but actually they are not Eve players, but rather gamers who have met through an out of game forum and are only in our game to ruin our game. Any recruitment effort from them in this game is a scam. Do not join them if there are any strings attached (there will be).
As others have said, nullsec is divided among CFC and N3 as well as Provibloc who live because CFC and N3 let them and HERO. If you want to go to null I can only recommend HERO. Otherwise putter around in high and low and FW. |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
396
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Posted - 2014.08.11 15:48:00 -
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Bryen Verrisai wrote:1. Depends on where you go. CFC may be one of the biggest players in Null, but most people in WH space couldn't care less about them.
2. Too broad of a question.
3. The sov null powerhouses are extremely risk-averse. Good for business, bad for fun.
4. Complicated question that has been discussed by lots of very intelligent people with no real answer agreed upon.
Risk adverse people don't lose titans on casual low sec adventures. |
Nick Necro Flamel
University of Caille Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2014.08.11 15:52:00 -
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The truth will NOT be found in the forums.
Most players have never even been here.
~ Weigh In Here~ |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.08.11 15:53:00 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote:To the OP, you'll notice that most of the players in Eve are bittervets who log on to Eve in order to be able to play World of Tanks with their friends, who they have flown with for years, and who will take every possible measure to pidgeonhole you as an idiot or a spy or in some other way be negative toward you, scam you, kill you, and lie about you and ruin you. As a new player I strongly suggest you look at the HERO coalition (TEST, BRAVE, HONOR, and some other alliances) who are the only nullsec group where this attitude doesn't prevail. Highseccers are usually loners who don't talk much though good groups do come along. Like the poster said about Wormholers, Faction Warfare is a generally unbroken part of Eve that has it's own world and politics. Goonswarm claims to represent noobs but actually they are not Eve players, but rather gamers who have met through an out of game forum and are only in our game to ruin our game. Any recruitment effort from them in this game is a scam. Do not join them if there are any strings attached (there will be).
As others have said, nullsec is divided among CFC and N3 as well as Provibloc who live because CFC and N3 let them and HERO. If you want to go to null I can only recommend HERO. Otherwise putter around in high and low and FW.
There is the GRRRR we've been waiting for. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
78
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Posted - 2014.08.11 16:00:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:
There is the GRRRR we've been waiting for.
Also, be sure to check out greedygoblin.blogspot.com for some wisdom.
And finally: GRRRRRR GOONS!!!!!!!!!!! |
Toshiro Hasegawa
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
60
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Posted - 2014.08.11 16:00:00 -
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cant beleive it took 2 pages History is the study of change. |
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Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
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Posted - 2014.08.11 16:17:00 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote:Zimmy Zeta wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:Suspect OP is a seasoned player. Questions 3 and 4 (particularly with the wording) sound suspicious. I agree, something doesn't smell right. Corp name leads to further questioning of sincerity. Anybody else suspects that OP might be an alt of Robert Sawyer? To the OP, you'll notice that most of the players in Eve are bittervets who log on to Eve in order to be able to play World of Tanks with their friends, who they have flown with for years, and who will take every possible measure to pidgeonhole you as an idiot or a spy or in some other way be negative toward you, scam you, kill you, and lie about you and ruin you. As a new player I strongly suggest you look at the HERO coalition (TEST, BRAVE, HONOR, and some other alliances) who are the only nullsec group where this attitude doesn't prevail. Highseccers are usually loners who don't talk much though good groups do come along. Like the poster said about Wormholers, Faction Warfare is a generally unbroken part of Eve that has it's own world and politics. Goonswarm claims to represent noobs but actually they are not Eve players, but rather gamers who have met through an out of game forum and are only in our game to ruin our game. Any recruitment effort from them in this game is a scam. Do not join them if there are any strings attached (there will be). As others have said, nullsec is divided among CFC and N3 as well as Provibloc who live because CFC and N3 let them and HERO. If you want to go to null I can only recommend HERO. Otherwise putter around in high and low and FW.
Being a 9-year WoW vet, I get how playing the same MMO for an extended period of time can grind down on you. It becomes a force of habit to log on, muck around doing your chores, and not really focusing on the whole purpose of a game - to have fun.
I'd be surprised if there were EVE vets that are having as much of a blast than when they first started out. It's natural. Not worried at all about being pidgeon-holed by people (why do so many people think I am an alt?). Forum banter is very amusing for me, and I'll get more out of it once I have some game experience under my belt.
Not quite sure what direction I will take, but I do assume I'll end up with my favoured (<--- Canadian detected, where's my Tims?) underdog side. Thanks for the suggestions, BTW.
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Nick Necro Flamel
University of Caille Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2014.08.11 16:20:00 -
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There must be an app to derail threads....there must be!
~ Weigh In Here~ |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
306
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Posted - 2014.08.12 15:00:00 -
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I came here looking for the join. Bad BAIT AND SWITCH!
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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flakeys
Guinea pigs inc.
2411
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Posted - 2014.08.13 08:42:00 -
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Yup , OP is a newbro , totally not an alt of anyone trying to troll .... definatly not .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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flakeys
Guinea pigs inc.
2411
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Posted - 2014.08.13 08:46:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:Suspect OP is a seasoned player. Questions 3 and 4 (particularly with the wording) sound suspicious. I agree, something doesn't smell right. Corp name leads to further questioning of sincerity. not sure if you are talking "in-character" or not anyway, even if it was a hidden "Grrrr Goons" thread, a bit of objective info would only add the content and prevent the intended troll, if that was the intention in the first place
We are talking null and more specifically goons here , since when does anyone have a reall objective non-biased vision on that.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Mythrandier
Corporate Scum Cult of War
443
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Posted - 2014.08.13 09:23:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:Suspect OP is a seasoned player. Questions 3 and 4 (particularly with the wording) sound suspicious. I agree, something doesn't smell right. Corp name leads to further questioning of sincerity. not sure if you are talking "in-character" or not anyway, even if it was a hidden "Grrrr Goons" thread, a bit of objective info would only add the content and prevent the intended troll, if that was the intention in the first place We are talking null and more specifically goons here , since when does anyone have a reall objective non-biased vision on that.
People who have never played eve? I know it tenuous but that's all I can think of. "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |
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