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Rells Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.17 23:09:00 - [1] Originally by: nut gatherer The only thing I can think of this course as I have run across them multiple times is they run if there's more than 1 battleship. (Even if they have their own battleship), and they fight using LAG tactics. jumped into a system with them in it to fight these guys. in my own interceptor took 15! SECONDS TO LOCK A FRIGATE. and no I wasn't dampened or anything. they didn't even notice me. So yes you can learn to PVP b/c I will admit these guys can pwn BS's, and HAC'S and any other ship, but overall be prepared to run if a corp comes with more than 3 ships to fight you guys. 1) The only time we have had a BS is last night when a corp member was trying his hardest to collect insurance but didnt manage it. 2) The fleet last night had several sensor dampeners and that is why you couldnt target us. 3) Go to the store and buy some balls; and then post with your main. ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.18 09:52:00 - [2] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii [ Fancy flying on this course run by Rells ? (Who ive never met, and know jack ** about to be honest... but the course looks good) Eve-mail me in game, And i'l sponser up to 3 players to participate. Please include in your eve-mail for my own amusement why THOU should be given a free 5mill ! Alliaanna That is generous of you. ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?**
Rells Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.18 14:35:00 - [3] Originally by: nut gatherer The sensor dampener idea is great except I jumped in about 20 seconds after the fight began so no one would have been able to target my crow and dampen me in time to delay me THAT much. plus in addition. if someone is trying to collect insurance, then how come whenever he was locked. away warped the ENTIRE group. They don't even stay around to fight unless they outnumber a massive amount. and when one gets popped the whole fleet warps away to safespot. Life is full of mysteries. - Why didnt you target us for 40 seconds? - Why did we warp away and choose to fight engagements on our terms rather than let opponets dictate terms of the engagement? - Why wont we warp a gang into a sure suicide wipeout? - Why wont you post with your main when I know you MUST be from WR3CK given your description of the fight? - Why wont you acknowledge that a bunch of PvP Newbies blasted three WR3CK cruisers to space dust and almost a Typhoon as well (who jumped out in 20% armor)? - Why did PVP-BASIC kill 2 battleships (including a smartbomber ... when will they ever learn?) and several cruisers and other assorted stuff? - Why is water wet? - Why is the sky blue? - Why am I posting a response to a clear forum troll without the courage to post with his main? So many mysteries in our world. sigh ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 10:53:00 - [4] Originally by: Hugo Strange i was in that fleet and i loved the game of tag we had although getting blasted by a gang mate (no names ) when i locked him to repair his armour wasnt fun! The smart bombing geddon? no one can be noob enough to fall for that 1 trick pony! this class was definatley the most fun I've had for a long time Hehehe ... he learned not to target except through overview. Clicking in space 4TL. Its all a learning process. Some days we have good days, other days it is slow. It just depends on a billion things including luck. ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.21 21:58:00 - [5] Originally by: Semkhet Edited by: Semkhet on 21/07/2006 07:43:41 Use rapiers and flycatchers: A single rapier can web up to 6 ships at 40 Km, and with a base locking range of 100 Km, two T1 damps will not break its locks. There's enough grid to put 6x X5 webbers, 3x 650 Art T2, MAR T2 and hardeners and/or membranes. Flycatchers with T2 standard launchers can unleash 760 dp per volley using precision ammo at up to 50 Km every 9 secs. You only need one of your flycatchers releasing the sphere, all the other ones may be purely setup for damage and can fit a BCS II in the low slot for better ROF and damage. Just don't get close since lag always benefits to the group who has the biggest numbers. How much tech 2 hardware are you going to use to intercept a bunch of tech 1 frigs? If we kill even one of them we win. One tech 2 fitted flycatcher is worth more than the entire class fleet. We dont teach our students to sit at 50km and be victims, we teach how to counter the tactics that are commonly thrown at them. PvP is more than ISK + F1 -> F8. ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.21 22:10:00 - [6] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Rells, why not do a special lesson and start your class in Hodrold? N-Rael is a nice place to have your class. A change of scenary. Never been there in all my time playing eve across 3 mains! ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.28 18:00:00 - [7] Originally by: Semkhet Originally by: Himo Amasacia So.. this class is for noo people. You know. New. New? Look it up in the dictionary? You completely missed the point. I like what Rells does. The problem is that he presents T1 noob warfare using numbers like the ultimate PvP machinery, when the only thing who allows this to work is the use of remote sensor dampers and ECM. Take that out of the picture, and not even 40 frigs would pwn any decent BS pilot since he would blow these frigs at popcorn rate. First of all, your statement is ludicrous in the extreme. Its like a soldier sayign to another soldier "ya but the only reason you win is because you use bullets .. take them out of the equation and our artillery will pwn you." Which basically means it boils down to smack talk. However, that aside a moment. If you had say 20 frigs and one well piloted, well fitted BS and none of the frigs used ewar, they would still win. If you dont know why then you need to take the class yourself. The only BS that would be dangerous in this situation would be a Dominix, but even that can be handled if the pilots are well trained. I will leave it as an exercise to you to figure out why both things are true. However, you can fit up a BS to take on frig gangs and assuming the frig gang leader is so daft as to leave his EWAR at home, you would win. If he doesnt you will be turned into a spectator. This is called tactics and fighting with your brain andevery single PVP Basic graduate knows how to do it. Scary isnt it? BTW the August 6th class is full but there is one for the 12th scheduled. ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.28 18:19:00 - [8] I didnt miss you. AGONY stands on our reputation. We have had over 400 students and not one dissatisfied. Ask our students what they thought. Go to the enrollment threads and ask them. Check the previous posts by said students in this forum and ask them. That is all I need to say. We fill class after class to capacity because we give our students value for their money and they go tell their corps that they should sign up as well and they do. Thanks for the bump but our reputation pwns your flames. ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.06 13:43:00 - [9] Originally by: Eclipsed Shortsilver When I get some time and money together, this n00b will be trying to get in this class. Will you be running these in September? Summer isnt a very good time for me on the weekends. We shall be. Just keep an eye on our site. ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.06 13:45:00 - [10] Originally by: Ezok Lyrad This class may be fun but the description of time needed for the class was very under described during enrollment. 3 hours are needed just to get organized then there is training and then the hunting time for targets. Except to be in the class from 6 to 8 or more hours. For me I was very disappointed that I did not get to hunt any. I allotted 3.5 hours for this course, I had no idea that so much more time would be needed. I do not only play EvE I also live in the Real World. 3 hours was a long session to me and a 6 to 8 hour session seems absurd. I am sure some of you out there will disagree and you spend your whole day playing EvE. I would not have committed to the class if it clearly stated a realistic time, perhaps you at Agony should update and plainly state the real time the class might last. Anyways I am not saying the class was bad the instructors had it together and very organized it was just this time factor for me. Well I am repeating myself now thanx for reading. Actually the description says 3 hours of instruction and then an indeterminate time for wolfpacking. However, you are a paid stdent and welcome to attend another class as an allumni (no cost space permitting) and get in the practice you didnt have time for. Just sign up on the appropriate thread. ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?

Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.07 13:03:00 - [11] Originally by: Malka Badi'a Edited by: Malka Badi''a on 28/07/2006 18:30:44 edit: You won't listen anyway. I'll shorten it for you. Think what you are teaching makes any real difference? Bring your next class to my area. Bring the entire class. Let's see what 20-30 frigates are going to do against a real threat, not single individual fights of 20v1or2. A real battle. Because until they experience a real fight, they won't understand that what you've taught them isn't going to keep them alive when their 20 frigates and crusiers are under focused fire from 15-20 battleships and battlecruisers. Now what exactly would it teach anyone to fly 20 frigs into 20 BS and BC set up to kill frigs? Only thing that would teach them is that you would lose that conflict. Just the fact that you proposed such a thing is ... well ... a bit pathetic. Would such a confrontation really make you feel superior? We teach students to fight with their brains, not their balls. We teach them to ignore taunts and rediculous propositions like yours and to fight the enemy on their terms; one of the basic tennants of military strategy since two cavemen started hurling rocks at each other. We also teach them how to not be your targets and how to hit you where it hurts; to tag you when you are missioning or moving up to join th gate camp or when you least expect it. We teach our students that they dont need millions of SP and billions of ISK to not only be compeditive but to drive out the pirates to seek easier prey and many of our students put this to use. If I saw 20 BS then I would decline the engagement. That isnt cowardice but merely brains. On the other hand, were I to catch you in an even engagement or catch you when you least expect it you might get 2 o 3 of my fleet at 250k isk each but I would blast that BS, BC or HAC and you would be going home poorer than us. Gureilla warfare has always been extremely effective (if a pain to spell ). Would you like to learn how to do this kind or warfare? If so then check out our site. ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.07 13:06:00 - [12] Originally by: PC5 Hello, I must say that this university is great idea. Well sometimes im calling you guys GoonFleet2 but after some experience here and there i have to say that youre far far far better than them. Teach ppl some things about PvP - they will gain much more experience than in GoonFleeet. Thanks for the complement. That is quite the statement and we appreciate it. We have high respect for our long time opponents in Syndicate; 3FA, Enigma, Goonfleet and ROIDS to name a few. We teach how YOU ... yes YOU can get inot PVP effectively with as little as 2 weeks in the game. ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.11 17:43:00 - [13] Originally by: Tityana Heres some footage (i know its not the best!)of one of rells' classes in action. (also stars VETO) Enjoy! Nice kill though the music was a bit obnoxious. Actually all things considered i tanked that pilgrim brutix and terranis quite a long time. Hmm Im gonna have to remember that setup. But you got to predict that if you throw that much hardware at a Hawk alone you would be able to take it down. I would think it only noteworthy if the AF got away or won the fight. Otherwise that is just too much force for an AF to handle. And BTW this was just after an again wolfpack, not in a class. By the way, just a tip, next time right click on the target ship and set as interest and then you dont have to do all that manual rotation of the view plane to catch the shot. To make this work you will have to enable the advanced camera menu in the options. However, you get an even cooler shot if you set the target as parent and then you will see it up close and personal with the attackers orbiting. ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:40:00 - [14] Originally by: Nova Z Why do the best fights ALWAYS happen after i've logged? Great description of the night, Ned! I know the feeling. I go AFG a while and thez kill 2 ishtars!!! ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.29 02:13:00 - [15] That is very nice of you. Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.09.06 22:17:00 - [16] Originally by: Zaldung Kotimoto ok I would like to sign up for this but want to make sure I am converting the time correctly. Also I have been unalbe to post on the forums to sign up or to register for a forum account. Am I doing something wrong? 18:00 Eve time is 13:00 EST since EVE time is currently EST time +5 correct? So this starts at 1:00 eve time? There are two links to make an account. The one on top is busted for reasons I have not been able to determine. Use the one on the right instead. As for the conversion from Eve time I dont know. Just look at the eve clock when you are logged on (lower left corner) and you will have your time differential. Originally by: Zaldung Kotimoto Also is it possible to get the 5mil back if I am unable to show up or get the skills trained in time (this should not be a problem I only have 2 or so level 1's I'm missing)? I have five mill and the potential to make more so I don't want to take anyones money but it would be all the money I have currently saved (which is fine it will be worth it I am sure) Thanks! I will be showing up as Maldon Pierra not the character I posted as sorry about that. If you have real life issues that prevent you from attending the class, just post on the thread before the class starts and we will credit you so that you can take the next class that you have time for. However, those that fail to show up without informing us beforehand lose their fee. This is only fair since that student would be taking the spot from someone else. Training the skills should take less than a week. Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.09.07 02:36:00 - [17] Edited by: Rells on 07/09/2006 02:37:47 Originally by: Maldon Perriera ok I tried the one on the right as well and I got the same response. You are not authorized to perform this action. Got the page asking me if I was over 13 and clicked the box saying I was willing to abide by the procedures of the website. Still got you are not authorized to perform this action. Do I need to allow the site to put cookies on my computer? Tried it both in mozzilla and internet explorer. Thanks! Cookies are required and dont use the back button in registering as there is a bug in postnuke with that. Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?

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