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tikki Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.07.17 14:24:00 - [1] Edited by: tikki on 17/07/2006 14:25:31 Now that the goonies are now allowed to post in the forums I though it was a good opportunity to thank them for many hours fun gaming. I don't care how it started, how it will end, who's winning. As far as I'm concerned there is way too much chest beating in these forums and it's mostly irrelivant as far as I'm concerned. A large part of this game is pvp and as long as ppl are having fun then GREAT! So keeping it simple...thanks for the entertainment, I've enjoyed many fights. Lost some ships, killed some ships, numbers being irrelivant to me. You have showed some good tactic and learn more every day. Credit to the goonies for keeping it largely smack free and appreciating 0.0 pvp for what it is. Forget the politics, this game is about having fun! If you want to smack then plz post in one of the other threads in this forum. Tikki / The Clone
Bitter Vet	Posted - 2006.07.17 14:26:00 - [2] tell ur fleet commanders and lorth to stay out of these threads and maybe they wont suck so bad
KIATolon Black Omega Security E.R.A	Posted - 2006.07.17 14:32:00 - [3] Originally by: Bitter Vet tell ur fleet commanders and lorth to stay out of these threads and maybe they wont suck so bad GO AWAY
Psilocin Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.17 14:34:00 - [4] Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: Bitter Vet tell ur fleet commanders and lorth to stay out of these threads and maybe they wont suck so bad GO AWAY Agreed. I also thank tikki for the kind words, as I'm having the most fun I've had in an MMORPG in a long long time. This is how off-game discussions should be.
Piscis Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.17 14:37:00 - [5] LOL I think Tikki was giving a compliment sadly those with less brain cells than feet cant read or dont care, probably both. Politics aside thanks to the goons without which I would be bored. I always salute fellow fighters & thanks chaps PISCIS [URL=http://imageshack.us][/URL]
Won Ton GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.17 14:41:00 - [6] It's completely mutual, tikki. We have nothing but respect for everybody on both sides of this war who just show up to get down to business. It's people like you who redeem your alliance of the black sheep who only want to cause drama on the forums. Hopefully now that Goons are allowed to post here as well, more people will begin to realize that we truly are not represented by the alt posters that plague our threads. Bitter Vet, I hope you get crucified when we catch you.
Havelcek Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.07.17 14:43:00 - [7] As long as you're having fun who cares what kind of crap is on these forums. Read them for entertainment, not for fact-finding.
arjun	Posted - 2006.07.17 14:48:00 - [8] i thnak the goonswarm too as they show clearely, where we are weak, what needs to be better organised and what we need to learn to get a better, more decisive reaction going next time around and also help some of us to not underestimate any enemy. no matter how it will end, the goonswarm atack prepares us for the next challenge we will face.
CardboardSword42 Celtic Anarchy	Posted - 2006.07.17 14:59:00 - [9] I think goonswarm are the new BoB in terms of threads I'm Ex-Biomass, that makes me cool But now I'm KOS and it's all about the manlove
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.07.17 15:11:00 - [10] Originally by: Bitter Vet tell ur fleet commanders and lorth to stay out of these threads and maybe they wont suck so bad Why are you holding people to standards you don't uphold yourself, hypocrite?
terminal mehmet GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.17 15:14:00 - [11] Thank you, we have been enjoying ourselves. You all can put up a hell of a fight.It has been an interesting exercise that has tested and measured the best and worst of our energies and skills. We have learned a pretty incredible amount about fighting in true 0.0 and, as I said, it has really been an enjoyable experience.
Dark Shikari Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.17 15:21:00 - [12] Originally by: CardboardSword42 I think goonswarm are the new BoB in terms of threads Too true --Proud member of the [23]-- -WTS Heavy Electron II, 100mn AB II, Medium Warp Bubbles-
Sir Tificate GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.17 15:24:00 - [13] Edited by: Sir Tificate on 17/07/2006 15:25:04 I would like to see Bitter Vet nailed to the wall if we ever find out who he is (along with other particularly annoying alts that don't seem to "get" how to act mature in threads that warrant it). And I agree with tikki. This is the funnest time I've ever had in a MMORPG, and I'm extremely grateful to GF, becaause without it so many low skillpoint players like myself would be stuck in empire and not getting to experience what to me really seems like end game play in Eve. I mean how many other MMO's do you see that in? In EQ you would never see level 10's fighting dragons, same with end game raids in WoW. Eve is set up though that even the lowliest worker can be of help. But yes, good fun and really gives you perspective on whats important in this game, because alot of times your world just seems like the rock of crokite you are focused on that moment.
Muffin Menace Reikoku	Posted - 2006.07.17 16:08:00 - [14] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: CardboardSword42 I think goonswarm are the new BoB in terms of threads Too true Raises Eyebrow - Come now, you know thats not true __________________ "Out on bail fresh outta jail, California dreamin"
Tassitus Mallinar Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.17 16:15:00 - [15] Originally by: Bitter Vet tell ur fleet commanders and lorth to stay out of these threads and maybe they wont suck so bad Go die in a fire, and pray to god we never catch you. Anyways, we came for the fights, we've enjoyed them, and that's really all we can ask for. Kudos to everyone who wants to keep things on that same level.
Alvinas GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.17 16:32:00 - [16] Thanks Tikki. I assure you we're having an equally fun time. This whole ordeal has been one giant crash course in conquerable space for most of us. I sure don't pretend to know everything I'm doing, but I know how to press buttons, click the mouse frantically, and yell on Teamspeak. It's good to have something to work toward. This is excellent PvP experience too. I've died to Piscis and THE CLONE before in Sydicate. I remember ye.
Candelie	Posted - 2006.07.17 16:42:00 - [17] Originally by: Tassitus Mallinar Originally by: Bitter Vet tell ur fleet commanders and lorth to stay out of these threads and maybe they wont suck so bad Go die in a fire, and pray to god we never catch you. Anyways, we came for the fights, we've enjoyed them, and that's really all we can ask for. Kudos to everyone who wants to keep things on that same level. ^^^^This^^^^ I hope to god we find out who Bitter Vet is. And thanks to D2 and friends for the huge learning curve they have made us endure.
arkarsk GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.17 17:07:00 - [18] Nice to hear from an ex-NBSI member/corp. Great fights everyone.
Yazoul Samaiel	Posted - 2006.07.17 17:53:00 - [19] This is a respectable post tbh any one flaming it will be a moron since it still shows that there are still Gents in fights not just smakctalkers running around chest beating on forums. /me tips hat to tikki and to goons "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
Rovin	Posted - 2006.07.17 18:07:00 - [20] Allowed to post LOL. Why people let themselves be told you can't post is beyond me.
Dreiden Kisada GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.17 18:28:00 - [21] Originally by: Rovin Allowed to post LOL. Why people let themselves be told you can't post is beyond me. Because back when it was just strongly sugested not to post, goons said really stupid things on the forums. Now that we've all tasted the anger in reading the forums and seeing stuff we can't comment on, I think the majority of people will think 4 times before posting. Thanks to D2 for the war, just wish I could participate more. The preceding statements are my opionion. Not to be confused with anything official.
Gareth Brynne	Posted - 2006.07.17 18:42:00 - [22] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: CardboardSword42 I think goonswarm are the new BoB in terms of threads Too true We come from the SA forums, so forum posting is something we partake in a great deal. Why wouldn't we want to post on the forums of the game that the majority love to play? Now that the floodgates have been opened, you'll see more of us posting and will find we're not the slathering newbies you may have thought we were.
Arath Veduran Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.17 19:09:00 - [23] All the battles I've been a part of have been great fun. Honest fights, no smack, just good old pew-pew. Thanks D2, you make worthy foes.
Degaal Valen Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.17 19:33:00 - [24] This thread is for hugs and love instead of alpha male chest thumping and oneupsmanship. Personally I'm the sort of player that loves how mercurial EVE's politics can be when former enemies end up as allies. Seeing Alektrophobia set GS positive in standings was the highlight of my week. By next year I bet D2 and Goonswarm will be napped against the Slashdotter invasion.
Raleigh GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.17 21:48:00 - [25] This forum becomes so much more tasteful without all of the hate. We only fight you because we love you D2
Dreiden Kisada GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.17 21:49:00 - [26] Originally by: Degaal Valen By next year I bet D2 and Goonswarm will be napped against the Slashdotter invasion. The next great enemy I see on the horizon is the Furry Alliance. The preceding statements are my opionion. Not to be confused with anything official.
Deja Thoris Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.17 22:07:00 - [27] I've had a lot of fun engagements vs the bees. Long may it continue.
Ishen Villone Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.17 22:15:00 - [28] It's about time a thread like this came up. C'mon, you love us as much as you hate us. Much love for everyone.
Sovy Kurosei Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.17 22:15:00 - [29] Originally by: Dreiden Kisada Originally by: Degaal Valen By next year I bet D2 and Goonswarm will be napped against the Slashdotter invasion. The next great enemy I see on the horizon is the Furry Alliance. ___________________
Floppy Disk GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.17 22:21:00 - [30] Can I have a hug? Um... from a non Swarm person?
duckmonster GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.17 22:23:00 - [31] Posting in a Goonswarm thread! Seriously tho, I like you tikki, your fun to fight. Yeah, mad props to the D2 folk that have been fighting. Minus a few smackers (and all alliances will harbour a few, so thats not a criticism) , D2 have been stand up guys, and fun to fight. Never mind the forum warriors.
Guatama	Posted - 2006.07.17 22:25:00 - [32] I'd like you more if you hadn't blown up my omen on the 6-U gate tikki! :) Honestly though, wars like this are the thing that seperate Eve from your typical treadmill meaningless PVP MMO, and I continue to enjoy the conflict.
squidgee GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.17 22:33:00 - [33] Edited by: squidgee on 17/07/2006 22:34:53 This is a really awesome thread Tikki, and I'd just like to echo what you've said. Forget the forum warriors, the Cloud Ring conflict has been fun and highly interesting. That's what EVE should be like, and I thank D2 for the experience.
Zeiros GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.17 23:09:00 - [34] Edited by: Zeiros on 17/07/2006 23:12:17 A while back I decided never to post on these forums because no good could ever come of it. I'm going to break that rule just this once and say that the past couple of weeks have been the most awesome of my EVE career so far. This conflict has taken me from being largely bored of the game to the exact opposite: skipping out of work a little early and staying up late to keep fighting. This has been an excellent fight and the tone of the occasional chatter in local is completely at odds with what the bitter forum warriors have been spewing the whole time.
Cvuos GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.18 00:12:00 - [35] Agreeing with Zeiros' skepticism about this particular forum. Every thread about ever war between every alliance seems to drag the beauty of Eve down to the gutter of Counterstrike. But that's fine, you can play the game all you want and never read it. Anyway, I wanted to post this in the thread that got locked, it's a quote from the goonfleet forums and it's beautiful. Quote: Yeah, my first-ever words spoken on TeamSpeak were "two points on the Moros", about eight days into my trial.
Hutchins Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.18 04:12:00 - [36] Great thread, tikki. All the smacking and shortbuses full of retarded alt posters aside, I think both sides have a mutual respect for each other. The XZH campaign has been hands down the most fun I've had in my eve career. Nothing else I've participated in has even come close. I remember the day it started. I was puttering around s-u popping rats and generally being bored with EVE, and then the news about cloud ring came over the channels. It was like that scene in Starship Troopers where the announcement of the bug meteor comes over the airwaves and all the sudden you've got two thousand rookies charging across the parade ground shrieking 'War! We're going to war!' at the top of their lungs. Everything since then has been a blur of bloody, violent, no-holds-barred totally awesome PvP. Anyway, best of luck to all parties involved, and I'll see you on the battleplanes of Cloud ring. The opinions of this humble zergling are not neccessarily those of the Goonfleet Overmind.
Lorth Synchro.	Posted - 2006.07.18 04:19:00 - [37] Originally by: Bitter Vet tell ur fleet commanders and lorth to stay out of these threads and maybe they wont suck so bad Well at least I got under the skin of one spinless alt. It was fun fighting you during my time in Fate. And its equally as much fun argueing with you on the forums, and if I can annoy just one alt, it was worth it! ------------- Recruit me
BuSHiDo ZiN GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.18 04:22:00 - [38] I'd like to give a special shout out to Black Lance and E-R especially. You guys have been giving excellent fights outside of this POS/Dancing Blobs war. Also tikki you ganked my mining alt like three months ago and I still haven't had a good chance to return the favor. Looking for it, though
Shachar Duragon Pioneer Group GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.18 06:23:00 - [39] Tip of the hat to the OP and his kind words. Whatever the outcome of this fight, everyone involved will be able to enjoy re-telling stories of this epic struggle for years. o7 The Swarm expects that every man will do his D U T Y
Dinique Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.18 07:07:00 - [40] I approve of this thread! \o/ Having started my EVE Career basically living in S-U with my VS-UK corpmates, I've been shooting goonies since well, err forever. Good fun all around. Wish they'd prevent alts from posting in this section of the forums, there's some D2 and Goon alts that make us all look bad. :) _____ There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones
Widebrant GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.18 09:23:00 - [41] Edited by: Widebrant on 18/07/2006 09:23:51 Goonfleet has always realised that it owes a great deal to its enemies. Every goon begins life in hostile space, learning through bitter experience all the survival techniques of 0.0, from simply keeping an eye on local to the endless complexities of working together as a team to defeat those who roam Syndicate in search of ganking without the security hit. In that spirit, not only would I like to thank D2 for putting up a fight in Cloud Ring and the north, but also for taking the fight to us in Syndicate, as all goons cannot comfortably live out of POSs and safespots. Verily, I am even grateful for those members of D2 that took the war to these forums, for they have fueled our nerd rage, causing the greediest of carebears to lay down their strip miners and pick up their mega beams. See you on the next battlefield!
Floppy Disk GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.18 11:02:00 - [42] Edited by: Floppy Disk on 18/07/2006 11:01:58 D2 is making us tough and I appreciate that. Shame you have some really unecessary "spokespersons" who try to take the fun out of everything.
Velaine Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.18 11:56:00 - [43] I have to fully agree with Tikki, fighting you has been a blast ! And i hope a few of you will remember me zapping through your Fleets in XZH
Melchom Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.18 12:01:00 - [44] sorry guys, the first week was fighting as lunas statet bevor, the rest was goons avoiding a fight. ps: top support on your allies
Braytac GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.18 12:04:00 - [45] Many thanks for taking a nice thread and trolling it :(
Melchom Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.18 12:29:00 - [46] Originally by: Braytac Many thanks for taking a nice thread and trolling it :( i have fought many alliances..... your pos logistic was not bad. but poswars are only one step in alliancewarfare. and you mean my point of view is trolling? i'm not counselor troy and hold your hands
Cringeley Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.18 13:03:00 - [47] Originally by: Melchom i'm not counselor troy and hold your hands No, not trolling, not with nice, warm-hearted, friendly references to leaked internal goonfleet director discussions. You're really a very lovely person who promotes understanding and friendship across no man's land Anyway, in spite of the trolling, I have had a great time learning the ropes of proper alliance warfare over the last few weeks. -------------------------------------------- Thrice is he armed who has his quarrel just, But four times he who gets his blow in fust.
Nafri Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.18 13:35:00 - [48] Fighting F-E was more fun afterall more fights, better quality fights and especially, less POS sieges From Dusk till Dawn Sig removed, e-mail us if you'd like to know why. -ReverendM ([email protected])
Melchom Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.18 13:36:00 - [49] Originally by: Cringeley Originally by: Melchom i'm not counselor troy and hold your hands No, not trolling, not with nice, warm-hearted, friendly references to leaked internal goonfleet director discussions. You're really a very lovely person who promotes understanding and friendship across no man's land Anyway, in spite of the trolling, I have had a great time learning the ropes of proper alliance warfare over the last few weeks. that is the point, you haven proven that you have nothing learned. and respect as always have to earned. fight your way and you will become that respect
ParMizaN Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.18 13:39:00 - [50] Great to see that new players CAN enjoy this game to it's full, and make a difference. Good job goonies! sig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris
PhannJodoxis Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.18 14:07:00 - [51] After fighting along side Goons (as a member of Sparta - ATROX. -I will miss all the good ppl there)I can say that I have nothing but <3 for them. While hard to describe, Goons seem to have a very unique attitude; sure they are pleased with what they have achieved in such a short time, but I can't see them ever being arrogant 1337 ***s about it. They are too aware that it is just a fun game for that, and yet they are still willing to put a ton of effort in. The Overmind or whatever, has complete dominance over their minds and they gladly participate heavily in furthering their causes. Heh.. it is awesome to see such high participation .. especially after seeing so much of the opposite. Goons are funny as hell, and at times their chat channels are down right insane, but in all fleets I've been in with them they are disciplined and their commanders are good. As goofy as they are, they have many many mature intelligent members. Goons will just keep learning and getting better. These guys have my respect through and through. Others in the Eve community giving them the props they deserve is nice to see. While there is tons of ** not worth getting into with Sparta's leadership and demise, and the general reaction I felt from most former corps is that they just want to go back to being residents or leave for empire, I can happily say that myself and other individuals strongly disagree with this flip flopping and do hope to join our friends in or as Goons. The Sparta leadership made some maddening frustrating decisions.. but in the end at least I got to see which group I want to be part of. (yes, prior to all this I believed all the forum crap and disliked them intently ) ______________________________________________
mogwai Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.18 14:16:00 - [52] /me tips hat in respect to the goonies I've killed a fair few of you, and you guys have killed me back in return. Always had a laugh doing it and been taught how to adapt or die with your ever increasing knowledge of the game. Hope to see you guys on the battlefield again soon
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.18 14:22:00 - [53] Originally by: PhannJodoxis While there is tons of **** not worth getting into with Sparta's leadership and demise, and the general reaction I felt from most former corps is that they just want to go back to being residents or leave for empire, I can happily say that myself and other individuals strongly disagree with this flip flopping and do hope to join our friends in or as Goons. The Sparta leadership made some maddening frustrating decisions.. but in the end at least I got to see which group I want to be part of. (yes, prior to all this I believed all the forum crap and disliked them intently ) Speaking for the Swarm, we welcome all the fighting Spartans who wish to do so to join the Hive. We've been happy to put our asses on the line for you as you have done for us, and we look forward to working together in the future. You'll always have a place to call home (and it won't be Empire).
zdsdg	Posted - 2006.07.18 14:32:00 - [54] Edited by: zdsdg on 18/07/2006 14:32:45
Crivens	Posted - 2006.07.18 14:45:00 - [55] I personally enjoy fleet battles, if not for the lag then for the fact that they can often have a decisive outcome which small engagements can't really match, so thank you d2 for providing those. Whilst I think that the pos war is a sad thing for it to have come to, I think that neither side has accrued any shame for it. Ships are a dime a dozen but a POS is a statement that you're here to stay; thus a pos war suffices to underline each alliances determination - something praiseworthy. I can't say I enjoy being ganked in s-u whilst i'm trying to make some money (Mogwai and draken shugar, i'm looking at you), infact I quite dislike it- so congratulations to d2 for achieving their goal in that area! That said, this ganking made me frustrated enough to start getting gangs together and leading them myself and I've found that; whilst scary- leading a successful gang OP is the most satisfying thing i've yet to do in the game, and much love to goonfleet that two month old newbies such as myself are as welcome to start and lead gangs as the next guy, as this opens up a whole new dimension to the game. I'd also like to give a shout out to The Arrow Project and Freelancer alliance as they've not been mentioned in this thread yet, but have shown themselves to be mature opponents with a great sense of fair play and some excellent skills.
Donkey Chips Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 02:50:00 - [56] I too, have had an immense amount of fun. When this whole war started by accidently shooting the station (we have BAD ADD), I had no idea how big of a situation it would evolve into. Witnessing and getting in on some of the action convinced me to keep my EVE payments going and to train skills for the long run. I'd bet it's safe to say that In the 2.5 months I've been playing EVE, I've seen more action than many 1+ year old characters. Without GOOD enemies, such an experience would have never been possible, and I may have let my subscription cancel. Much thanks to D2 & company for giving me someone I love to hate, and something to strive for ingame. It did suck having to watch bitter alts smack all over these forums giving all Goons a bad name; while we had to sit back and watch out reputations become tarnished, it really made most of our members' blood boil. Hopefully, now that we've been unleashed to Eve-O forums, you guys can all see we're not the mouthbreathing trolls that alts make us out to be. Here's to our love-hate relationship - so it can continue to fester into more pew pew, explosions, and loot. :EDIT: When will I ever get my portrait? I feel like such a dirty alt. [ 2006.06.25 22:36:45 ] Donkey Chips > THE HIVE CLUSTER IS UNDER ATACK
Achren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.19 03:43:00 - [57] Originally by: PhannJodoxis :words: Like The Mittani said, you deserve better than Empire for your help. Hope to fly with you again sometime soon.
Aliksr GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.19 09:13:00 - [58] Don't tell anyone I said this, but I'm secretly hoping this war continues, as it is now, to be a bitterly fought stalemate both where both sides reasonably claim to be winning Having said that, GoonFleet plays to win ;p

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