Furthermore I offer refuge to the survivors. The Duchy of Palas will happily provide means of labour in the fishing industry to the slaves and the necessary training for doing so. I will also ask our priests to give special care to the spiritual needs of the traumatised and provide them with an environment of tenderness and affection.

Why would the Stormcrows want to send the human beings right back to the misery they came from?

I would suggest you to send them to Mrs. Ymladris' colony. It is an ideal place for them to start a new life. Away from lunatic zealots and two-faced duchess.

I would also lament the deaths of the 2000 that didn't survive. There is nothing merciful about their deaths, and it is disappointing to hear people rationalize it like that. It might be necessary, but it is a tragedy; those 2000 were not saved or given a mercy.

Such a finely tuned moral calculus we have here on the IGS. Plug the following into your equations and see what happens:

1. While it was my intent to eventually kill all 4,034 Slaves on this Industrial, their deaths were not imminent and some of the Slaves would have lived months, even years had the Stormcrows not murdered them. That lifespan, however short or valueless some of you may consider it to be, was taken from these Slaves and they did not have any choice in the matter.
2. Some of the Slaves would have survived despite my intent to kill them eventually. People such as Ayallah and Ava Starfire have taken Slaves from me in the past and they took them from my armed combat ships, not unarmed Bestowers. Furthermore, there is always the possibility that I will take a temporary retirement from piloting GÇö as I have done several times in the past, most recently for a two and one half year period GÇö and leave my slaves either to languish peacefully in a hanger or be sold back on the SCC markets into "normal" Amarrian slavery.
3. My slave pool is not finite but instead I replenish it from the SCC markets as Slaves are lost in combat, sacrificed, decimated, or worked to death. I prefer to keep a working stock of around 20,000 Slaves (I purchase and prepare Slaves intended for the rare mass-sacrifices separately, as these receive no crew or planetary colony training). Therefore, the ledger here is not, "2,034 killed, 2,000 saved", but:
2,034 Nauplius-slaves killed
2,000 Nauplius-slaves get "freedom"
About 4,000 Slaves move from "regular" Amarrian slavery to Nauplius-slavery
Put that way, it doesn't look so good now, does it?

Finally, let me make the following adjustment to the Nauplius-shooting moral calculus going forward:

1. Henceforth, the cargo holds of all my combat ships will be stuffed with extra slaves who serve no purpose but to bloody the hands of all who would shoot at me.
2. Henceforth, whenever I am podded for any reason, I shall kill 1,000 of my Slaves. This rule is retroactive to my last podding, so let all who would attend Lady Odelya d'Hanguest's Nauplius corpse viewing party mediate upon the 1,000 Slaves who at this very moment are being prepared for their deaths with maximum psychological torture.

Amen. Amarr Victor.

Some of the Slaves would have survived despite my intent to kill them eventually. People such as Ayallah and Ava Starfire have taken Slaves from me in the past and they took them from my armed combat ships, not unarmed Bestowers. Furthermore, there is always the possibility that I will take a temporary retirement from piloting GÇö as I have done several times in the past, most recently for a two and one half year period GÇö and leave my slaves either to languish peacefully in a hanger or be sold back on the SCC markets into "normal" Amarrian slavery.

Finally, let me make the following adjustment to the Nauplius-shooting moral calculus going forward:

1. Henceforth, the cargo holds of all my combat ships will be stuffed with extra slaves who serve no purpose but to bloody the hands of all who would shoot at me.
2. Henceforth, whenever I am podded for any reason, I shall kill 1,000 of my Slaves. This rule is retroactive to my last podding, so let all who would attend Lady Odelya d'Hanguest's Nauplius corpse viewing party mediate upon the 1,000 Slaves who at this very moment are being prepared for their deaths with maximum psychological torture.

In the grand scheme of things your 1000 are not even a drop in the ocean.

Ms. Karasawa, If any freemen wish to immigrate to the Federation, I will be more than happy to help. As I have immigrated several years ago, I can provide council to those unfamiliar with Federation protocol.

Hostages? Really Nauppie? You should know better then that. Capauleers only have morals when they're in the IGS fourms. You're going to get shot at regardless of what or who you have in your hold.

We do not negotiate with terrorists.

....wait we negotiate at ALL?

Such a silly noise over nothing.

~Hikari

Well **** me for doing what I know. It worked better, he went inactive more when I was hunting him. At least I did not get my people killed.

And yea, I thought with all the talking you people did you would be smart enough to figure out to not kill the ******* Matari.

I do not want your help anymore thank you.

This post sounds naieve, especially for you. Look at it from another light, and it's practically a plea to leave Nauplius alone when he's transporting slaves to whatever possible end he has in mind for them.

While I find your emotional involvement commendable, you fail to offer a solution on how you would handled it in this case. If you caught Nauplius with a slave transport carrying thousands aboard, how would you minimize losses?
You can point & web him, attempt to force him to eject, but why should he if he knows you're going to shoot him afterwards and in his view 'deny the slaves their glorious end to God'. So you end up with one of two situations: either he self-destructs the ship, ending the lives of many, or you blow up the ship, with the same result.

This is a tragic reality that alot of people in this thread gasp, it was a choice between two evils, there would never be a 'good' or 'right' way, but they did what they could.

I suggest we just get Nauplius really high. Like really really, really out of his mind....he'll never harm a soul again, let alone fly a ship. Where's the booster selling Thukker gal when you need her.....

-Eran

This would be where I make it known that the slaves are at this time not in the care of Stormcrows.

They are in the care of myself and the medical staff aboard my Orca class vessel Venix

I am looking to repatriate the slaves to the Republic for proper care once the wounded have been treated enough for transport.

Ms Rella, would Gradient be able to help with this?

My facilities and resources are not enough to deal with 2000 slaves with various wounds both physical and otherwise. I've had to have the main cargo hold converted into temporary accommodations and medical centre for them, even enlisting marine medics from the onboard security regiment.

I suggest we just get Nauplius really high. Like really really, really out of his mind....he'll never harm a soul again, let alone fly a ship. Where's the booster selling Thukker gal when you need her.....

-Eran

No offense but I'm pretty sure you've killed a whole hell of a lot more of your own people on SniggWaffe ops.

Hey I'm just sayin'. Civi or not, neither get resurrected.

As far as I am concerned, they are as much the enemy as he is.

You still failed to answer my question. You see a slave-transport piloted by Nauplius; carrying over 4000 slaves; what will you do. let him pass by, keeping the slaves confined to their future envisioned by Nauplius, or will you act?

That people have died is tragic, it has been mentioned before, what you fail to mention is that there's also 2000 saved, who otherwise would have been kept in slavery for longer or put to death through Nauplius' rituals. You do not mention them.

It's not important to Aya. She doesn't see 2000 saved, but 2000 killed. It's like most bullshit on the IGS, all about view points.

You have absolutely no idea what is or is not important to me..

Meh whatever floats your boat Aya. But like so many people told me in the past, do something about it. Use the energy you got for posting about it to go and act without a second thought.

You are not wrong. But I am ahead of you on it this time.

You have absolutely no idea what is or is not important to me.

And yes, it is a matter of viewpoints.

I wonder if people would be talking about noble hard choices if it was 4034 Gallentean Students held hostage and instead of negotiating or attempting to rescue them the FIO just bombed the place.

They did all they could, they really did.

Good thing he is dead though huh? Makes these sort of all-or-nothing tactics worthwhile. At least they stopped him so he cannot hurt more people.

and THIS is why I stay on IGS. It's about to get good.

Be sure to sell any slaves you rescue from my wrecks back into slavery. Or join with me in the Faith...and sacrifice them.

Requests denied.

Actions speak louder than my words.

Ayallah,

up to now not a single Stormcrow has responded in this thread, yet you claim to know our hearts and minds? Based on what exactly? Your own assumptions?

Do you know the terms of our contract? Were you there when we made the choices we made? Were you there when we let a Bestower past, only to have the report delivered a few minutes later that all the slaves have been executed?

How would you have handled it?

We have to live with our actions, not you.

2050 innocent people do not get to live because of your actions.

Others have already tried to spin this as 'I do not care enough about the people rescued' so your 'I do not care really, I am just doing it for attention.' line falls far short.


Tell the rest of your excuses to the dead.

A multi-race Private Military Contractor is hired by Amarrians to kill an Amarrian. The collateral lives lost are Minmatar. Is anyone surprised that the Vendor has not been told to respect the human shields of the target by the client?

Really?

I think there's some sort of war on, isn't there?

The problem many have with your comments is, you claim you care about the survivors, yet propose a course of action that will lead to the death of 4034 people rather then 2034 people.

A multi-race Private Military Contractor is hired by Amarrians to kill an Amarrian. The collateral lives lost are Minmatar. Is anyone surprised that the Vendor has not been told to respect the human shields of the target by the client?

Certainly 1000 out of several trillion seems irrelevant if you are using mathematical logic. Unfortunately, the reality is that it only takes one life to change the course of a history.

With that said, I don't see anyone killing this mans resolve by hunting him down but instead strengthening his determination. After all, with so many threads about him on the front page, he's raking in more attention than a lingerie model in a Brutor barracks. Sometimes it's best to ignore griefers, psychopaths, and step-parents. Eventually they lose their steam, unless you keep throwing wood in the fire.

-Eran

I am less alone in the mass killing of filthy Minmatar subhuman slaves than I was yesterday.

On 2014.08.12 at 21:55 in the Mehatoor system a small fleet belonging to the Stormcrows corporation destroyed an unarmed, harmless Bestower piloted by myself and carrying 4,034 Slaves. 2,034 Slaves perished.

When I reported this shocking event to the Summit channel, I was met with not only indifference but vigorous defense of the Stormcrows' actions. To those of you who consider me a monster I offer this quote of unknown origin: "When you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back at you."

During combat, a few had to be sacrificed for the benefit of many.

I think you are missing that people have tried in the past and are not trying it anymore because it's been made clear any and all such attempts will be ignored.

Feel free to go out there and try it yourself, though.

Skipping it because it's not as fun

Unless you think he's doing ritual sacrifice in the station run hangars, it's not like they're in any more danger in there than when treated to explosive decompression courtesy of bloodthirst and greed. I know Scotty has enough of a bloody fit under the best of circumstances, without having to clear dead bodies out of his hangars.

What scares me is that everyone's just ignoring that the only thing achieved is Nappy buying new stock every time you destroy his current hoard. And is it really too much to ask to try going the path of least horrible murder rather than just opening fire without any attempt at doing something else?

It costs nothing to try getting his cargo unscathed. Not a thing. Not even trying is not a matter of cold understanding. It's a matter of not giving a crap about the cargo in the first place. Trying to justify it after the fact with "cold understanding" is a pitiful statement of just how little they mattered when put up against blood thirst and greed.

And here is where you clearly and openly demonstrate you have no idea what you are talking about with regards to the situation.

You lose nothing by holding him a bit

Once more, a lot of talk in favor of the killings but no reasons given not to spend that little extra time on the preceding options when they could save more of the lives in question. You lose nothing by holding him a bit. If he docks, the slaves live. If he jettisons them, they live. If he tries to self-destruct, option three comes into play and you save what you can.

This is not your normal hostage situation. There are no guns to their heads and no time pressures involved. From the moment he's pointed and webbed, time is on your side. I repeat, you lose nothing but stand to gain much. Absolute worst case scenario, you're forced to do exactly what you're already doing. Killing indiscriminately. Best case scenario, a full cargohold of live rescuees.



And here is where you've run out of arguments and try to deflect the issue. As always.

Okay, well, quit arguing with the people who are insulting you and start engaging with the points then. They're here, in this thread. I've made them, Morwen's made them, Kohiko's made them... even Anslo's made them, in his inimitable jerkass fashion.

Painlessly? Have you ever seen the corpses left behind by explosive decompression? There's no flash. There's no painless death. Unless they take a blaster charge directly, it's one of the worst conceivable ways to die, with several dozen horrible things happening to you all at once. If you are really lucky, you get knocked out during the event. If you're not..

Sorry Jinari, but you're completely wrong there. You lose a LOT by holding him a bit, while he gains. He gains time to stall, to plan, to act. Hesitation is an opportunity for the target to come up with wiggle room, vent atmo from the hold, call in third party remote-rep, you name it. What happens if he starts fitting guns on his ship and, once webbed and scrambled, ejects the slaves and then blows up the jetcan? What happens if he pays a bystander to shoot his wreck the second his ship pops?

Hesitation is a loss all by itself. Pressure and seconds are valuable resources, to be spent as efficiently as possible. You DON'T allow fanatics to stall you.

"Stall and plan"? The man is floating in space in a transport vessel. If you know how to circumvent the capsule interface protocols to vent the hold, I'd love to see it. If you can't identify weapons on the hull of his ship, you're too terrible to be allowed out of dock to begin with. You don't allow fanatics to stall you, but you don't slaughter a hold full of slaves when there's nothing to be lost by holding off a while first.

Really, are you people so removed from your humanity that it's acceptable to trade thousands of lives just to stave off a few minutes of having to watch d-scan or watch out for potentially dangerous neuts? Thousands. Of. Lives. What conceivable risk do you consider so great that you can't make that little extra effort?

[quote=Stitcher]Really, are you people so removed from your humanity that it's acceptable to trade thousands of lives just to stave off a few minutes of having to watch d-scan or watch out for potentially dangerous neuts? Thousands. Of. Lives. What conceivable risk do you consider so great that you can't make that little extra effort?

Verin, I usually would agree but not when there's thousands of lives at stake. You can't guarantee a single rescued slave if you start by opening fire.

The option to open fire remains for however long you hold him but the possibility of getting them all without gunfire disappears the second you open fire.

I like the part where she ignores my point that shooting the ship offers some chance of some survivors when letting Nauppy take them is assured death for all of them.

It wouldn't make a blind bit of difference whether they had or hadn't.

And what added danger are they in that they're not already in danger of with your guns trained on the hull separating them from space?

I am less alone in the mass killing of filthy Minmatar subhuman slaves than I was yesterday.

I'm not saying such a scenario doesn't exist, I'm questioning it's likelihood. The range of possible somethings are as far as I can tell so narrow that they are practically non-existent and even if some nebulous something happens you already have him in your crosshairs and are a thought away from accomplishing the exact same thing as you would with pre-emptive fire.

And I certainly would take the station admins into account. If I were to dispose of thousands of people in my hangar I somewhat doubt I'd be allowed to use that station's services again, not to mention fill it with even more of them. Maybe things are different elsewhere, but the stations I tend to use have strict limitations on what I can do with my belongings. Storage, move to markets or trade contracts, move to vessel, move to manufactorums and eject/have escorted out of the hangar.

If there's a "biomass civilians" option anywhere I've never seen it. I'd love to be proven wrong of course, as that'd invalidate this entire discussion and give the Stormcrows perfect legitimacy in opening fire at the first opening.

Below is just one safe and legal way to dispose of a prisoner within a capsuleer hangar. I have never used this myself, but I understand that nobody will give you any grief if you do.

In addition, it should be noted that Naupilus has a habit of getting is slaves on Vitoc and maintaining discipline with shock collars, armed guards, beatings, slaver hounds and a system whereby slaves can inform on each other for benefits. I would, quite literally, prefer immediate and painful death to living a life like that, with the only end being my brutal and bloody sacrifice on an altar.

I respect you a great deal, Jinny, but you're just plain wrong here, girl.

Firing Squad Details.

Service personnel, five, rifle qualified.
Service personnel, one, SNCO or Officer rank.
Service rifle, five.
Service pistol, one.
Rifle Ammunition, orbital anti-personnel, four.
Rifle Ammunition, orbital blank training, one.
Pistol Ammunition, orbital anti-personnel, thirty.
Tether field, human, one.
Blindfold, black, one.
Armbands, black, six..
Capshades, black, six.
Defaulter Fatigue jumpsuit, black, one.
Cloth patch, white, one.

Defaulter is dressed in Defaulter Fatigue Jumpsuit. White cloth patch is pinned to chest, over heart. Firing squad add black armbands to uniform. Firing squad and leader wear black capshades. Firing Squad collect pre-loaded rifles. Squad leader collects preloaded pistol.

Yellow firing squad line is painted on ground. Tether field is assembled twenty meters from firing squad line. Firing squad leader takes position by firing squad line. Prisoner is marched out to Tether field and attached. Prisoner is offered blindfold. Firing Squad march in, take position on firing squad line.

Firing squad present arms. Firing squad take aim at cloth patch. Firing squad fire.

Squad leader proceeds to Defaulter and checks for signs of life. If signs of life present, squad leader fires two rounds from pistol into defaulters head. Firing squad march off. Squad leader remains with body until body detail collect body of defaulter for disposal.

You seem to think that it's all about gung-ho violence lust, yeehawing into battle, firing wildly and creaming their pants. Take it from me as somebody who went through similar situations in his first life - that's not how it goes. You don't go in guns blazing because it makes your little soldier stand to attention. you don't do it because it's fun. People's lives are on the line here, and professionals only act in such situations if they are thoroughly and completely convinced that their selected course of action is the best one.

You're not only insulting the Stormcrows' professionalism and empathy by accusing them of preferring violence, you're betraying a lack of empathy on your own part. You're failing to see things from their perspective.

Put yourself there. You have a life-and-death choice to make with thousands of people in the balance. You know from experience, training, and the received experience from others that the death of ALL those people is one frak-up away, and the frak-up is yours to make.

There is a 'trash it' signal that indicates to the station authorities that an item is no longer wanted by you and instructs them to remove it from your hangars. They do not ask questions about the state the items are in, or whether or not they are humans or former humans.

Your stations are scary and you are scary. I think I'll stick with the stations where I can't arbitrarily go and kill people in the hangars they provide.

Your stations are scary and you are scary. I think I'll stick with the stations where I can't arbitrarily go and kill people in the hangars they provide.

Do you think you'll get a knock on the door and a pair of officers will arrive to escort you to jail? Does anyone do that when you opt to destroy a jetcan full of people in space, literally right outside the same station? Why do you think that is?

That would be NONE of the stations. Believe me. You have extraterritoriality, you are an island to yourself with powers plenipotentiary. If someone is in your hangar and you want that person dead, you have only to order it.

Do you think you'll get a knock on the door and a pair of officers will arrive to escort you to jail? Does anyone do that when you opt to destroy a jetcan full of people in space, literally right outside the same station? Why do you think that is?

Because we live in a ******* disgusting universe.

Because we live in a ******* disgusting universe.

Not arguing against that, Sammi, just wondering why Jinari lives in the fantasy that she is bound by Baseliner law, when it is patently not the case.

Because we live in a ******* disgusting universe.

It is a matter of location, in most cases, whether you have the choice to be bound by them or not. And many of us choose to be bound by those laws, when and where it is appropriate.

You have crews though, right? And don't get me started on all the other things I can do that don't have a button on the Neocom.

Next thing you'll be telling me I don't have access to the gym. Or the restaurants on the Capsuleer deck. Or my home in the Nonni system. You'll be telling me I can't hop a shuttle planetside.

There's more to the Cluster than your computer interface, Jinny.

So the question, Morwen, is whether you think Naupilus chooses to be bound by Amarrian law?

I haven't told you that you don't have access to anything, love. Where you can and can't go is up to whoever runs wherever you are, not me. I'm just telling you what the stations I use allow me to do or in this case, don't allow me to do. I think it's rather sensible by the station managers in question, given what you people give examples of doing wherever you guys live or dock.

Love you like a brother Tuulinen...but you're just plain scary sometimes.

I'd have different words for it. Fear they're NSFIGS.

I think it's interesting how Nauppie's evil doings have the rest of us at each others throats. Kudos to him for that, I guess. Personally I think we need to just point and web him then sing songs about love and tolerance over every channel untill he repents his evil ways. And then do the same to all of his threads on the IGS.

Below is just one safe and legal way to dispose of a prisoner within a capsuleer hangar. I have never used this myself, but I understand that nobody will give you any grief if you do.

In addition, it should be noted that Naupilus has a habit of getting is slaves on Vitoc and maintaining discipline with shock collars, armed guards, beatings, slaver hounds and a system whereby slaves can inform on each other for benefits. I would, quite literally, prefer immediate and painful death to living a life like that, with the only end being my brutal and bloody sacrifice on an altar.

I respect you a great deal, Jinny, but you're just plain wrong here, girl.

Firing Squad Details.

Service personnel, five, rifle qualified.
Service personnel, one, SNCO or Officer rank.
Service rifle, five.
Service pistol, one.
Rifle Ammunition, orbital anti-personnel, four.
Rifle Ammunition, orbital blank training, one.
Pistol Ammunition, orbital anti-personnel, thirty.
Tether field, human, one.
Blindfold, black, one.
Armbands, black, six..
Capshades, black, six.
Defaulter Fatigue jumpsuit, black, one.
Cloth patch, white, one.

Defaulter is dressed in Defaulter Fatigue Jumpsuit. White cloth patch is pinned to chest, over heart. Firing squad add black armbands to uniform. Firing squad and leader wear black capshades. Firing Squad collect pre-loaded rifles. Squad leader collects preloaded pistol.

Yellow firing squad line is painted on ground. Tether field is assembled twenty meters from firing squad line. Firing squad leader takes position by firing squad line. Prisoner is marched out to Tether field and attached. Prisoner is offered blindfold. Firing Squad march in, take position on firing squad line.

Firing squad present arms. Firing squad take aim at cloth patch. Firing squad fire.

Squad leader proceeds to Defaulter and checks for signs of life. If signs of life present, squad leader fires two rounds from pistol into defaulters head. Firing squad march off. Squad leader remains with body until body detail collect body of defaulter for disposal.

This is pretty elaborate. For criminals that the authorities, for some reason, do not want back and already has a history of being unrepentant, we just threw them out of the airlock.

For Blood Raiders, such as the OP, I remember from my pre-capsuleer days that the authorities, after interrogating them as to other secret members of their cult, used to burn them at the stake on a bonfire. The ashes simply blew away, scattered, and dissipated to the winds.

This is pretty elaborate. For criminals that the authorities, for some reason, do not want back and already has a history of being unrepentant, we just threw them out of the airlock.

I believe in getting the maximum amount of use from the material at hand, Edmund. Anyone can be brave when death is a button push away and over in an instant. Enduring the reading of the charges. The listing of the evidence. Seeing the hilt of the sword turned from them, the black capshades, the ruffle of drumbeats... The metronome like precision of the marching of the escort to take them 'from this place to another place, there to be executed by firing squad...

It gives a criminal time to appreciate the weight of the apparatus of state as it rolls over them. And it gives your own men the opportunity to reflect on the price of treason.

Why would the Lord need records from CONCORD?

He does not, of course.

I am curious as what it is exactly that you are trying to show, to whom, and why.

But you need not answer in public.

Without such records, people might question whether or not I had actually killed the number of slaves I claim.

Because we live in a ******* disgusting universe.

We live in a universe created by God and run according to His hidden will. To call it disgusting is an error of faith.

I agree with those who have said this was 2000 lives saved, not 2034 lost.

Tragic.

Certainly the loss of human life incurred by the actions of capsuleers should be seen as due cause for the expression of moral outrage for those unable to look in the mirror, such a unique occurrence that it no doubt is.

Truly, a tragedy I shall reflect upon, my heart overflowing with empathy and compassion at such loss of life while I watch the upcoming Alliance Tournament.

Without such records, people might question whether or not I had actually killed the number of slaves I claim.

With all due respect... this is crap.

You don't save people by firing at them. And attack was to destroy the target, not save some slaves. All casualties are just collateral damage. And amount of them is random. They all 4034 could have died. Or survived. It is Maker's will it happened this way, but not another.

Without such records, people might question whether or not I had actually killed the number of slaves I claim.

All is visible to the light of the Lord, and needs not such displays of hubris as shown in numbers.

Is it not over-stretched pride which has lain countless of the Faithful low?

These activities detract from the lesson, as the behavior of Shameful Holders can do, and does not teach of the power of the Lord. They merely show your actions in the way that eyes unseeing of the knowledge you hold would translate it.

Would you raise CONCORD statistics above Divine Message?

Who exactly are you beholden to? CONCORD, Capsuleers, or Divinity?

I'm honestly curious.

With no respect intended or implied whatsoever, you are slow-witted.

Who would say this, but not a woman, who believes that shooting at peoples is "saving" them.

With no respect intended or implied whatsoever, you are slow-witted.

So many people think my slaves are better off dead. What gives you the right to make that decision for them? My slaves would rather stay alive; if you could hear them, they would beg you not to shoot at them.

(Perhaps you consider this assertion improbable, but recall that I brainwash all my slaves with the Doctrine of Hell and the place of the Minmatar within it; my slaves fear nothing more than their future damnation in Hell and so despite the torment of their daily lives would not think of trying to end them; hardly any of my slaves ever commit suicide.)

Tell us more about Tibus Heth sometime.

So many people think my slaves are better off dead. What gives you the right to make that decision for them? My slaves would rather stay alive; if you could hear them, they would beg you not to shoot at them.

(Perhaps you consider this assertion improbable, but recall that I brainwash all my slaves with the Doctrine of Hell and the place of the Minmatar within it; my slaves fear nothing more than their future damnation in Hell and so despite the torment of their daily lives would not think of trying to end them; hardly any of my slaves ever commit suicide.)

It always hurts my brain when Kimmy gets close to making a good point. It's like I'm feeling the laws of physics torn asunder.

We live in a universe created by God and run according to His hidden will. To call it disgusting is an error of faith.

This is sickening.

The fact that Amarr defines something as a sin is not usually a factor in the decision-making process of us heathens.

Two thousand souls were lost for no apparent reason at all, other than simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Is it not at least morally wrong to you? Do you not have a conscience?

If neither of those things are true, you're not even human.

Is it not at least morally wrong to you?