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Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
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Posted - 2014.08.13 19:11:00 -
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Militarised police force you say? Welcome to Doraville , Georgia, pop 8500
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Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
245
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Posted - 2014.08.13 21:10:00 -
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Money's got to be made and sheeple got to be herded. Everything is fine, just go back to sleep.
I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses .............. |
Adunh Slavy
1575
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Posted - 2014.08.13 22:43:00 -
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They are keeping you safe from whomever the government labels as 'terrorist', and unlicensed lemonade stands operated by little kids.
Now pay your taxes and quit complaining.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
4431
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Posted - 2014.08.14 00:14:00 -
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That's CODE looking for afk miners.
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.08.14 00:31:00 -
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Back in when those armored bank robbers were shooting up LA with automatic rifles, the cops had to use an armored truck (the kind used by banks, etc., to move money to/from stores) to rescue a wounded cop.
Also, Doraville is in Atlanta.
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fairimear
Air
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 12:06:00 -
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looks like the fuzzballs in the US are having way more fun toys.
TBH a well equipped police force is not the same as a racist one. |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
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Posted - 2014.08.14 12:46:00 -
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There are variations of these words, but very few statements ring as true for this thread.
"If men were angels no government would be necessary."
This is one of the prominent thoughts of the some of the founders of the US government.
Now, if you add in a population that wants to be protected from societies underbelly instead of protecting their own society, this is what you end up with; a militarized police force meant to subdue any form of unrest.
A well equipped police force, that is operated by significantly underpaid state employees, that have little to no incentive to not abuse their power in numerous ways, is not long for great abuses. That being said, privately paid police forces will often fall victim to the same abuse of powers.....oh mankind you leave much to be wanted for  |
Celvice Klein
Free Galactic Enterprises
Black Pearl Alliance
1
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Posted - 2014.08.14 13:24:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:
Also, Doraville is in Atlanta.
You know that Atlanta is a city in Georgia, right? |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.08.14 13:29:00 -
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To be fair good old 'Murica has about a 10x gun homicide murder rate than Europe so the whole SWAT response thing came about because cops were being shot up like crazy. And if you think that was bad you should see what LA does when **** hits the fan. |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
3087
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Posted - 2014.08.14 14:34:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:To be fair good old 'Murica has about a 10x gun homicide murder rate than Europe so the whole SWAT response thing came about because cops were being shot up like crazy. And if you think that was bad you should see what LA does when **** hits the fan.
More like 5x but who's counting really. |
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Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
248
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Posted - 2014.08.14 14:52:00 -
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BE ADVISED:
You are all disturbing the peace and disrespecting my authority by not following my order to go back to sleep immediately!!
I WILL NOT BE DISRESPECTED!!! For I am a small man, with a taxpayer-purchased and government-issued weapon, backed by other small men with taxpayer-purchased and government-issued weapons.
OBEY ME!!! Your lack of obedience is threatening to me.... I feel threatened!!!
I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses.............. |
Adunh Slavy
1579
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Posted - 2014.08.14 14:55:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:There are variations of these words, but very few statements ring as true for this thread.
"If men were angels no government would be necessary."
This is one of the prominent thoughts of the some of the founders of the US government.
That is the great conundrum isn't it. Those same non-angles will be in government, and government having power, attracts those who want it and are willing to use it.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
4475
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Posted - 2014.08.14 14:58:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote:There are variations of these words, but very few statements ring as true for this thread.
"If men were angels no government would be necessary."
This is one of the prominent thoughts of the some of the founders of the US government.
That is the great conundrum isn't it. Those same non-angels will be in government, and government having power, attracts those who want it and are willing to use it.
Sounds like CODE, too. ^_^
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
3480
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Posted - 2014.08.14 16:02:00 -
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We need fewer Rambo/Blackwater cops and more cops like these: Police Officer Loses Dance-Off to Kids
"I had been dancing in the car all day long. We were leaving and these kids started busting a move as we were driving by them. I turn the car around and my partner was like, GÇÿIf you have a dance-off with him IGÇÖll give you some Jolly Ranchers,'GÇ¥ said Officer Krebs. (For non-'Muricans, Jolly Ranchers).
"Were [sic] not your monkey and so what?"-á -The Sex Pistols (2006) |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
3088
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Posted - 2014.08.15 14:32:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:
That is the great conundrum isn't it. Those same non-angles will be in government, and government having power, attracts those who want it and are willing to use it.
That is why I prefer adding the word 'all' to the quote, but for proper citation's sake I left it as is. |
Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.15 14:46:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:We need fewer Rambo/Blackwater cops and more cops like these: Police Officer Loses Dance-Off to Kids"I had been dancing in the car all day long. We were leaving and these kids started busting a move as we were driving by them. I turn the car around and my partner was like, GÇÿIf you have a dance-off with him IGÇÖll give you some Jolly Ranchers,'GÇ¥ said Officer Krebs. (For non-'Muricans, Jolly Ranchers).
Agreed. We do need more cops like that. The police should be interacting with the community not oppressing it with military grade hardware. This vid may shed some light on the use of the hardware though.
I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses.............. |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
3090
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:18:00 -
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Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:We need fewer Rambo/Blackwater cops and more cops like these: Police Officer Loses Dance-Off to Kids"I had been dancing in the car all day long. We were leaving and these kids started busting a move as we were driving by them. I turn the car around and my partner was like, GÇÿIf you have a dance-off with him IGÇÖll give you some Jolly Ranchers,'GÇ¥ said Officer Krebs. (For non-'Muricans, Jolly Ranchers). Agreed. We do need more cops like that. The police should be interacting with the community not oppressing it with military grade hardware. This vid may shed some light on the use of the hardware though.
There is an excellent scene, from the HBO serie's The Wire, of the Baltimore City Police chief (I believe) where he speaks of the older days when cops walked the streets with a baton and would communicate with, socialize with and bond with their 'beat' aka the streets and their residents. It has not been like that for a long.
My link does not have the lead up where he speaks of what you linked above Khergit, but what I have linked is one of the main reasons the situation with police forces are as grim as they are now. |
Adunh Slavy
1580
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:43:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:
There is an excellent scene, from the HBO serie's The Wire, of the Baltimore City Police chief (I believe) where he speaks of the older days when cops walked the streets with a baton and would communicate with, socialize with and bond with their 'beat' aka the streets and their residents. It has not been like that for a long.
Something that would help return to those days is reducing crime, and not by chasing criminals, but by making less activity criminal. There are countless stories about police harassing people for "crimes" that should not be crimes such as growing vegetables, having a cistern, selling cigarettes one at a time (which was the alleged crime being committed in another recent police killing.) having a lemonade stand, bake sales, stamping the word "liberty" in a round piece of silver, and of course the big one, drugs.
Government creates more criminals with the pen, than does the occasional ill will of man.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
Nose' Feliciano
279
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Posted - 2014.08.15 17:02:00 -
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Dont let the actions of one douche speak for the whole department. As for race relations? Any country founded and built on the principle of racial slavery will never get over its past. Even with a black man in the white house.
This will happen over and over again.
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Effect One
Vengeful Swan
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Posted - 2014.08.15 17:25:00 -
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Think I'd be more concerned if they didn't attempt to retrieve a downed colleague. I see a smoke grenade and 4 people guarding the tracked vehicle while 2 run out and drag a dummy into the back. I don't see them rushing out and shooting pop up targets.
8,500 people and 10ish SWAT officers. Hardly 'police militarisation'. You crazy Americans cooks.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2014.08.15 17:27:00 -
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"Terrifying SWAT video"? Pal, if you are terrified by your police, move to a civilized country. Vote with your feet and don't bring your guns with you, thanks.
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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
3093
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Posted - 2014.08.15 19:02:00 -
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Effect One wrote:Think I'd be more concerned if they didn't attempt to retrieve a downed colleague. I see a smoke grenade and 4 people guarding the tracked vehicle while 2 run out and drag a dummy into the back. I don't see them rushing out and shooting pop up targets.
8,500 people and 10ish SWAT officers. Hardly 'police militarisation'. You crazy Americans cooks.
Fact of the matter is that this equipment is rarely used to recover a downed partner. If a situation is bad enough to warrant such response and equipment then the State Police or The National Guard should be called in. Local, relatively small jurisdictions rarely if ever need this type of equipment. This stuff, often times, is excessive in force and excessively expensive for the rare cases that they are needed. |
Robert Sawyer
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.16 13:00:00 -
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Big toys for big boys
"And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph." |
Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
270
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Posted - 2014.08.16 15:53:00 -
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Effect One wrote:Think I'd be more concerned if they didn't attempt to retrieve a downed colleague. I see a smoke grenade and 4 people guarding the tracked vehicle while 2 run out and drag a dummy into the back. I don't see them rushing out and shooting pop up targets.
8,500 people and 10ish SWAT officers. Hardly 'police militarisation'. You crazy Americans cooks.
This sheeple get it. There is nothing to worry about. Nothing at all. Everyone knows a smoke grenade just clears the sinuses. Quit crying about justice and freedom and submit.
I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses.............. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
3489
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Posted - 2014.08.17 01:51:00 -
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Alice's Restaurant by Arlo Guthrie Sort of a poetry-rap about crime (dump ground violations) and punishment in small town America. Cops, courts, draft, war, periphery citizens, that stuff. 
"We walked in, sat down, Obie came in with the twenty seven eight-by-ten
Colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back
Of each one, sat down."
"Were [sic] not your monkey and so what?"-á -The Sex Pistols (2006) |
Trin Xi
549
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Posted - 2014.08.17 02:20:00 -
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Paramilitary police run by big bureaucracy have popped up everywhere, thanks to Federal grants that have strings attached.
RE: Ferguson. Violent robber got shot by police... Crowds riot... President throws gasoline on the fire. (They used this story in a previous episode, or is this a rerun?)
Post with someone else's mainGäó. |
stoicfaux
5284
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Posted - 2014.08.17 12:31:00 -
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http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/08/17/0047236/two-years-of-data-on-what-military-equipment-the-pentagon-gave-to-local-police
direct link: https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2014/aug/15/we-have-pentagon-1033-program-data/
It takes the site a bit of time to load, so be patient. Some of the more interesting things for GA:
GACLOTHES DRYER3510-DS-DRY-ER0010.0031-JUL-2013
GACLOTHES WASHER3510-DS-WAS-HER610.0031-JUL-2013
GACAMOUFLAGE NET SYSTEM,RADAR SCATTERING1080-01-475-069622060.0030-SEP-2013
GADETECTING SET,MINE6665-12-371-0877419688.8030-MAY-2012
GADETECTING SET,MINE6665-12-371-0877524611.0030-MAY-2012
GAMUSICAL INSTRUMENT PARTS AND ACCESSORIES7720-DS-MIN-STAC10.0030-JUL-2013
GAMUSICAL INSTRUMENT PARTS AND ACCESSORIES7720-DS-MIN-STAC20.0030-JUL-2013
GADOOR,VEHICULAR2510-01-519-8221627102.0021-MAY-2013
GACLUB,SELF-PROTECTION8465-00-641-855140231.2001-AUG-2013
Everything for GA with the word ARMOR (on the current records tab)
GATRUCK,ARMORED2320-01-074-7642165070.0030-MAY-2012
GATRUCK,ARMORED2320-01-074-7642165070.0030-AUG-2012
GAPERISCOPE,ARMORED VEHICLE1240-01-319-899552841.4527-MAR-2012
GATRUCK,ARMORED2320-01-074-7642165070.0023-AUG-2012
GATRUCK,ARMORED2320-01-074-7642165070.0020-MAR-2012
GAPERISCOPE,ARMORED VEHICLE1240-01-319-53391398.1017-OCT-2011
GAPERISCOPE,ARMORED VEHICLE1240-01-319-53401669.0017-OCT-2011
GAPERISCOPE,ARMORED VEHICLE6650-01-320-56281928.6717-OCT-2011
GAARMOR,SUPPLEMENTAL,SMALL ARMS-FRAGMENTATION PROTECTIVE2540-01-579-1930126612.0012-JAN-2012
GATRUCK,ARMORED2320-01-074-7642165070.0006-JUN-2012
GAARMOR,TRANSPARENT,VEHICULAR WINDOW2541-01-574-593028921.6803-SEP-2013
GAARMOR PLATE9515-01-395-85671600.4503-OCT-2011
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
12720
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Posted - 2014.08.17 14:29:00 -
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This is what happens when your civilians are more heavily armed than many other nations armies.
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Anna Hathaway
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2014.08.17 15:38:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:This is what happens when your civilians are more heavily armed than many other nations armies.
No. This is why the civilians must be more heavily armed than many other nations' armies. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
1054
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Posted - 2014.08.18 06:19:00 -
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Nose' Feliciano wrote:Dont let the actions of one douche speak for the whole department. As for race relations? Any country founded and built on the principle of racial slavery will never get over its past. Even with a black man in the white house.
This will happen over and over again.
Nah. Has more to due with state coddling of segments of the population who simply refuse to conform to the rules civilized society sets down.
Its really simple.
-Don't steal cigars and manhandle storeclerks half your size.
-Don't walk down the middle of the road and hold up traffic, especially not 10 minutes after committing a crime.
-And, for godsake don't punch out police officers, attempt to flee, then turn and bullrush them while they are pointing guns at you.
'Big' Mike whats-his-name dug his own grave, just like Trayvon.
They deserve derision - not pity and memorials.
I'm right there with you on the militarization of the police. Not comfortable with some of the hardware being distributed to
civilian law enforcement agencies these days - much of it looks more at home in Iraq or Syria, not Montana or Missouri.
But I'm not sure the riots in Ferguson are really the most compelling context. |
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