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Otuk Andven
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:28:00 -
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I'm in a bit of a funk at present. I find pvp interesting even though I'm terrible at it but I find myself doing it less and less. Why? Because its such a hassle to do.
I'm in a null sec coalition so generally you have to wait to ops (at times that aren't very convenient to you) travel over 50 jumps and deal with jump clone timers. Bankrupt yourself getting a useable ship for the fleet (often tweaking official doctrines to because you don't have t2 guns) then wait for 5 minutes before moving off, only to die in 15 minutes and get podded back those 50 jumps without getting on any KMs.
I mean when there is a neut in the pocket I'm ready and willing to jump into a HD ship and take them on but if its an op my general reaction is do I have to? Because I have to go though all of that while I could be doing something productive in the same time. Or at the very least checking my PI.
Does anyone else find themselves in the same situation? |

Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
672
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:31:00 -
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EVE had all sorts of different groups, playing all kinds of PVP.
A change is as good as the rest... Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together - -áFleet-Up.com |

Collie Buddz
0ne Percent. Odin's Call
36
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:31:00 -
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Nope, that sounds like an awful way to play Eve to me. To each their own. |

Paranoid Loyd
1432
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:32:00 -
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Make alt, go do FW, stay on comms with your corp in case something interesting happens. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |

Summer Isle
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
47
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:33:00 -
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Look to lowsec. Lowsec is love. Lowsec is life. Also, FW and WH are pretty solid.
Nulsec is dulsec if you aren't a PvE-oriented renter or in Catch. Maybe NPC nulsec. |

Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:37:00 -
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The way you're describing nullsec coalition PVP makes it seem like you're not having a lot of fun doing it. Why not just leave them and join something where you would find more fun PVP opportunities, like FW, pirating, or living in NPC nullsec? You shouldn't have to sacrifice fun for ISK generation. In Need of a New Signature |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7682
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:37:00 -
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Otuk Andven wrote:I'm in a bit of a funk at present. I find pvp interesting even though I'm terrible at it but I find myself doing it less and less. Why? Because its such a hassle to do.
I'm in a null sec coalition so generally you have to wait to ops (at times that aren't very convenient to you) travel over 50 jumps and deal with jump clone timers. Bankrupt yourself getting a useable ship for the fleet (often tweaking official doctrines to because you don't have t2 guns) then wait for 5 minutes before moving off, only to die in 15 minutes and get podded back those 50 jumps without getting on any KMs.
I mean when there is a neut in the pocket I'm ready and willing to jump into a HD ship and take them on but if its an op my general reaction is do I have to? Because I have to go though all of that while I could be doing something productive in the same time. Or at the very least checking my PI.
Does anyone else find themselves in the same situation?
Yes there are. Being in the situation most likely means you either weren't properly prepared to live in null (living in null is like being a Pre-Marian Roman soldier, you need to own some land and have some money before you enlist lol) or (maybe and) it means your allaince is crappy at taking care of it's members. A null corp/allaince is supposed to help it's people live and fight in null, if it doesn't, time to move on.
It also sounds like fleet fights aren't you thing but you like small gang, a low sec pirate alliance or faction warfare would probably make you a lot happier.
Me, while I'm not a super dedicated pvp type, i like fleet fights and despite my bad luck (why oh WHY did I make a pvp main with a name that starts with a C, also screw enemy FCs why use the alphabet for target calling) I keep coming back. I should get "F1 Monkey" tattoo'd on my left ass cheek or something.
EDIT: Protip for the OP, when the 1st 5 replies say the same thing, that means you probably should spent more time thinking about your problem before posting about it as you might have figured it out yourself  |

DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
829
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:39:00 -
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as stated it sounds like you need a change of scenery. In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |

Eternus8lux8lucis
Journies End
256
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:44:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Make alt, go do FW, stay on comms with your corp in case something interesting happens. I liked it cuz its true. This a million times over. Can be done with FW, incursions, L4s, hell even mining. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace |

Arla Sarain
64
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:48:00 -
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FW isn't much different.
Except instead of 50j you fly less. But the procedure is the same. Roam around to find a fight that you hope won't end up in you getting blobbed. On the plus side, you don't get podded as often. On the minus side, you now need to go back those odd 10j in a pod. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3912
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Posted - 2014.08.15 21:05:00 -
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try this =][= |

Otuk Andven
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2014.08.15 21:07:00 -
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Clyde ElectraGlide wrote: join something where you would find more fun PVP opportunities, like FW, pirating, or living in NPC nullsec? You shouldn't have to sacrifice fun for ISK generation.
you know what's worse? I don't think I've ever experienced any real fun from pvp. Perhaps its the fact I generally lose it and end up wasting money or a lack of a big kick but it has never really clicked with me.
I really want to do combat sites but I can never get a ship that can do them or someone runs it faster than me.
Arla Sarain wrote:FW isn't much different.
Except instead of 50j you fly less. But the procedure is the same. Roam around to find a fight that you hope won't end up in you getting blobbed. On the plus side, you don't get podded as often. On the minus side, you now need to go back those odd 10j in a pod.
its better than 70 jumps to get back into the action.
And no bubbles, I hate bubbles. |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
703
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Posted - 2014.08.15 21:30:00 -
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The more I live in null, the more I realize how terrible this game is, at it's core. That being said, I will likely never leave null again. Eve itself just does nothing for me. It's the people I fly with that keep me enjoying it all. I spend far more time on forums, and Jabber than I do actually playing Eve when I am logged in.
If you aren't having fun in null, it's probably because you are either in an alliance that's full of shitlords, or you are just looking for something very different than myself. 50/50, flip a coin. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5325
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Posted - 2014.08.15 21:36:00 -
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Otuk Andven wrote:I'm in a bit of a funk at present. I find pvp interesting even though I'm terrible at it but I find myself doing it less and less. Why? Because its such a hassle to do.
I'm in a null sec coalition so generally you have to wait to ops (at times that aren't very convenient to you) travel over 50 jumps and deal with jump clone timers. Bankrupt yourself getting a useable ship for the fleet (often tweaking official doctrines to because you don't have t2 guns) then wait for 5 minutes before moving off, only to die in 15 minutes and get podded back those 50 jumps without getting on any KMs.
I mean when there is a neut in the pocket I'm ready and willing to jump into a HD ship and take them on but if its an op my general reaction is do I have to? Because I have to go though all of that while I could be doing something productive in the same time. Or at the very least checking my PI.
Does anyone else find themselves in the same situation?
Sounds like you are in an alliance with crap tactics, a "throw ships into a meat grinder" approach and then expect you to pay for your own ships.
Leave them. There are better organizations out there. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2624
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Posted - 2014.08.15 21:36:00 -
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Otuk Andven wrote:you know what's worse? I don't think I've ever experienced any real fun from pvp. Perhaps its the fact I generally lose it and end up wasting money or a lack of a big kick but it has never really clicked with me.
I really want to do combat sites but I can never get a ship that can do them or someone runs it faster than me.
So you don't like what you do now and you know what you want to do. Where's dilemma in all this? Last time I checked "leave corp" button was accessible to everybody. Invalid signature format |

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1434
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:20:00 -
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Yeah, leave that predicament you are in right now and take it out on people in lowsec, we welcome your anger.
You are not getting kills and this is frustrating. We have all been there while learning the ropes. If the group you play with sets you up for dissapointment, leave. If the environmental factors bother you, change the scenery. I for one started solo with PVP and that was hard, but very satisfying because I did it on my own, with a wiki and my heard-earned ISK as only mentors.
The patch of land Jenn mentioned can be compared to your experience in PVP. If you have some, it will be easier to discern if a group does the kind of PVP you'd like. I don't like huge coalition stuff either, but sometimes I get asked to FC for a bigger lowsec group which I find a decent challenge and a lot of fun, although it is very draining at times... so moderation is key. Apart from those occasions I prefer small gangs, and even solo roams as long as there's someone to talk to on TS and share KM's with.
Just chillin', shooting at some bad guys. Or good guys. Or everybody.  |

Serene Repose
1509
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Posted - 2014.08.15 23:20:00 -
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Yeah, it shocks and amazes "some" people (though far from "all" people.) Not everybody enjoys fighting as a "game." EVE, or "games" are supposed to be fun, so doing something that's not fun to you...need a map?
What's funny is, the some people who are shocked and amazed by this insist their point of view is the only one, and if you're not fighting to have your fun you can't possibly be having fun. (Ironically, what's considered the MOST fun thing to do involves not fighting as well...but that's another website.)
Then, I've been involved in organized competition most of my life (one reason I find fighting in video games rather dull and inconsequential) and having done so don't feel compelled to clash with pixels. I guess the real fact no actual blood is being spilt takes all the possibility of fun out of it for me.
"It's just pixels. It's not real." I had a stint with chess for about 14 years. We're sitting at this table staring at this board with pieces...if someone said, "Those pieces aren't really real so nothing is actually being LOST here..." Well. "Some" of us can see how ridiculous that would sound.
Believe it or not, some people might find EVE just isn't any fun. Go figure. Are they "supposed" to? I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
5903
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Posted - 2014.08.15 23:28:00 -
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There is a reason I refuse to join any 0.0 corp. Between the hassle of logistics to draconian directives from the leadership, it just does not suit me. Drunken low-sec Leeroying is much more my style. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?" |

Angeal MacNova
LankTech Masters of Flying Objects
161
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Posted - 2014.08.15 23:33:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote: "Hurry up and wait" achieves new meaning with EVE, probably because the "people in charge" just purely suck at organization. Also, your "team mates" don't generally understand what being a team mate means.
You just summed up life in the military. |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1015
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Posted - 2014.08.15 23:57:00 -
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To echo the above posts, if you want pick-up-and-play PvP in EVE, FW supplies it to a degree that I wouldn't believe was possible had I not done it myself.
Just fit something frigate-sized, fly around a bit, and you'll find fights.
At least it was that way 6 months ago. [witty image] |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5327
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Posted - 2014.08.16 02:13:00 -
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Angeal MacNova wrote:Serene Repose wrote: "Hurry up and wait" achieves new meaning with EVE, probably because the "people in charge" just purely suck at organization. Also, your "team mates" don't generally understand what being a team mate means.
You just summed up life in the military.
Absolute boredom punctuated by total madness Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Netan MalDoran
xXTheWarhammerXx
77
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Posted - 2014.08.16 16:06:00 -
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I was in the same position as you a month ago...
I was in the CFC alliance in null but most of the time I was logging in to run ops, I was losing ISK cause I didn't have time to make cash and do the required stuff, plus I don't have that much time to dedicate to the game.
So, I left and went into FW space but (So far) didn't join FW, I build my own PvP ships and go solo PvP for fun, and do explo for ISK.
An idea if you don't like 100% solo if finding a small PvP corp in lowsec and just have casual fun! "Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was! |

Colten Tokila
Blitzkrieg. Get Off My Lawn
4
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Posted - 2014.08.16 17:43:00 -
[23] - Quote
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=361308
That post is pretty much the same type of troll post this actually is ,but did it much much better |

Qalix
Four Pillars Brothers of Tangra
299
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Posted - 2014.08.16 17:45:00 -
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Everything about EVE is basically a hassle. Where you been? |

Verlyn
Sisters of Xambu
25
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Posted - 2014.08.16 18:19:00 -
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Otuk Andven wrote:I'm in a bit of a funk at present. I find pvp interesting even though I'm terrible at it but I find myself doing it less and less. Why? Because its such a hassle to do.
I'm in a null sec coalition so generally you have to wait to ops (at times that aren't very convenient to you) travel over 50 jumps and deal with jump clone timers. Bankrupt yourself getting a useable ship for the fleet (often tweaking official doctrines to because you don't have t2 guns) then wait for 5 minutes before moving off, only to die in 15 minutes and get podded back those 50 jumps without getting on any KMs.
I mean when there is a neut in the pocket I'm ready and willing to jump into a HD ship and take them on but if its an op my general reaction is do I have to? Because I have to go though all of that while I could be doing something productive in the same time. Or at the very least checking my PI.
Does anyone else find themselves in the same situation?
Like the others said before me, you can always make an alt and then join my small and casual corp that lives out in FW space, we're not affiliated so we get more targets, it's fun.
PM me or make a post in the recruitment thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=366531&find=unread
And that goes for anyone else interested in this kind of corp. |

Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
10
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Posted - 2014.08.16 19:10:00 -
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Pick up a catalyst and follow us. We PvP all day every day and have a great time. Together we can make Highsec a better place! The Law of Highsec Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, live it! |

Othran
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
728
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Posted - 2014.08.16 19:17:00 -
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I'm no expert by any means but I go back a fair bit on characters other than this one.
Sov warfare - and by this I mean the whole sov environment - is primarily about isk.
Its generally not a good environment (IME) for people who want to undock & have some PvP fun.
OP needs to have a rethink - there are other ways to have PvP fun.
Edit - oh & I hear you about single neutrals paralysing the whole place when a "FC" isn't on. I remember that only too well - dock up dock up the sky is falling :D
Even if you did go kill the neut you caught crap for it from probably your own CEO and whoever else figured they were in charge at the time.
Anyway there are other options.... |

J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4371
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Posted - 2014.08.16 19:30:00 -
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3 words:
NPSI public fleets
Nuff said. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |

Samwise Everquest
Because ISK
53
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Posted - 2014.08.17 00:46:00 -
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Didn't read most of the thread but in my opinion if you want PvP, goto LowSec. Specifically the FW systems. You don't even have to enlist to join in on the fun. When I lived in Lowsec, there was always a fight a jump or two away if you are willing to fly ships people will/want to fight.
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Tweek Etimua
The Paragons
64
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Posted - 2014.08.17 05:26:00 -
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Wacktopia wrote:EVE had all sorts of different groups, playing all kinds of PVP.
A change is as good as the rest... If you have a steady income RvB isnt bad. Depending on the side you join Faction warfare is decent. |

Otuk Andven
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2014.08.17 07:45:00 -
[31] - Quote
Othran wrote:.
Edit - oh & I hear you about single neutrals paralysing the whole place when a "FC" isn't on. I remember that only too well - dock up dock up the sky is falling :D
Even if you did go kill the neut you caught crap for it from probably your own CEO and whoever else figured they were in charge at the time.
Anyway there are other options - like the alt corps mentioned which IME are much more fun than the sov corp.
strictly speaking our corp did run a home defence force in our old base, but when we move to the new alliance we got rid of them to reduce transit costs. Problem is things have been so complicated that we haven't yet got anything ready yet. Local market is a mess so whatever we build is going to have to be produced ourselves.
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Torneach Structor
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2014.08.17 08:12:00 -
[32] - Quote
Small gang warfare is where it's at.
Being in a corp that specializes in that is so very fun, especially when you get to know your corpmates. |

Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
66689
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Posted - 2014.08.17 09:20:00 -
[33] - Quote
J'Poll wrote:3 words:
NPSI public fleets
Nuff said.
This
I made my own little NPSI fleet last night and despite us being a little ragtag fleet of max 8 people whom have never flown together and we had 1 person who never ever pvped before. We still managed to kill more than our worth. One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6379
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Posted - 2014.08.17 17:54:00 -
[34] - Quote
Mizhir wrote:J'Poll wrote:3 words:
NPSI public fleets
Nuff said. This I made my own little NPSI fleet last night and despite us being a little ragtag fleet of max 8 people whom have never flown together and we had 1 person who never ever pvped before. We still managed to kill more than our worth. So... your catalysts ganked a hulk? ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |

Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
707
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Posted - 2014.08.18 00:12:00 -
[35] - Quote
You have found the only PvP left in EVE.
Welcome to GD |

Joshua Milton Blahyi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2014.08.18 00:37:00 -
[36] - Quote
If you are going to head to FW space, bring your own booster alt with you.
And some friends. The blobs are not as big as in null, but they are everywhere.
On the plus, as long as you don't use anything bigger than a frig, getting blobbed is painless, and you can laugh at the gfs the scrubs post in local after.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5788
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Posted - 2014.08.18 01:43:00 -
[37] - Quote
First things first, it sounds like you need a reliable source of income... and if your alliance has frequent OPs that make it difficult to make your ISK in their territory on your main consider an alt that is devoted to earning ISK elsewhere.
I would not suggest making a habit of ignoring call to arms to farm ISK on your main however, as it will be viewed as not being willing to make the necessary commitment to defense to earn access to your organizations territorial resources.
Unless you are simply tired of your organization, in which case many of the suggestions in this thread are worthy. If you like EVE Online and War Thunder content stop by my YouTube channel.-á
Ranger 1 Presents https://www.youtube.com/user/Ranger1Presents |

Carmen Electra
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
1087
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Posted - 2014.08.18 02:34:00 -
[38] - Quote
Otuk Andven wrote:50 jumps
You're doing it wrong.
You'll need to either learn to bear in null or have 2 accounts or at least characters. eve is dying |

Renegade Heart
Smack My Ship Up
162
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Posted - 2014.08.18 04:11:00 -
[39] - Quote
Otuk Andven wrote:if its an op my general reaction is do I have to? Because I have to go though all of that while I could be doing something productive in the same time. Or at the very least checking my PI.
Does anyone else find themselves in the same situation?
I personally find stuff like PI and ratting to be really boring, and a waste of my life.
I'd rather have fun, and blowing stuff up is fun for me 
|

Samuel Wess
Stain Police Happy Cartel
61
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Posted - 2014.08.18 04:33:00 -
[40] - Quote
There is no reason to pvp anymore at least in NPC null. People log in and ask is there any fight, and the reply is no. There is no competition over resources since all resources got either removed (random belts spawns), either made infinite (signatures, mission agents), made useless (belt ratting, mining) , made inaccessible for small entities (moons, sov).
Game state atm is make isk, kill ocasional traveler and watch movies. Consentual PVP without a reason makes no sense could as well play counter strike. Walk into the club like "What up? I got a big cockpit!" |

Ria Nieyli
18679
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Posted - 2014.08.18 06:09:00 -
[41] - Quote
Otuk Andven wrote:I'm in a bit of a funk at present. I find pvp interesting even though I'm terrible at it but I find myself doing it less and less. Why? Because its such a hassle to do.
I'm in a null sec coalition so generally you have to wait to ops (at times that aren't very convenient to you) travel over 50 jumps and deal with jump clone timers. Bankrupt yourself getting a useable ship for the fleet (often tweaking official doctrines to because you don't have t2 guns) then wait for 5 minutes before moving off, only to die in 15 minutes and get podded back those 50 jumps without getting on any KMs.
I mean when there is a neut in the pocket I'm ready and willing to jump into a HD ship and take them on but if its an op my general reaction is do I have to? Because I have to go though all of that while I could be doing something productive in the same time. Or at the very least checking my PI.
Does anyone else find themselves in the same situation?
You shouldn't have named your character Aardvark. Do not remove a fly from your friend's forehead with a hatchet.
- Ancient Chinese Proverb |

Carmen Electra
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
1089
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Posted - 2014.08.18 06:20:00 -
[42] - Quote
Ria Nieyli wrote:Otuk Andven wrote:I'm in a bit of a funk at present. I find pvp interesting even though I'm terrible at it but I find myself doing it less and less. Why? Because its such a hassle to do.
I'm in a null sec coalition so generally you have to wait to ops (at times that aren't very convenient to you) travel over 50 jumps and deal with jump clone timers. Bankrupt yourself getting a useable ship for the fleet (often tweaking official doctrines to because you don't have t2 guns) then wait for 5 minutes before moving off, only to die in 15 minutes and get podded back those 50 jumps without getting on any KMs.
I mean when there is a neut in the pocket I'm ready and willing to jump into a HD ship and take them on but if its an op my general reaction is do I have to? Because I have to go though all of that while I could be doing something productive in the same time. Or at the very least checking my PI.
Does anyone else find themselves in the same situation? You shouldn't have named your character Aardvark.
umad? eve is dying |

Maeltstome
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
576
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Posted - 2014.08.18 09:46:00 -
[43] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Otuk Andven wrote:I'm in a bit of a funk at present. I find pvp interesting even though I'm terrible at it but I find myself doing it less and less. Why? Because its such a hassle to do.
I'm in a null sec coalition so generally you have to wait to ops (at times that aren't very convenient to you) travel over 50 jumps and deal with jump clone timers. Bankrupt yourself getting a useable ship for the fleet (often tweaking official doctrines to because you don't have t2 guns) then wait for 5 minutes before moving off, only to die in 15 minutes and get podded back those 50 jumps without getting on any KMs.
I mean when there is a neut in the pocket I'm ready and willing to jump into a HD ship and take them on but if its an op my general reaction is do I have to? Because I have to go though all of that while I could be doing something productive in the same time. Or at the very least checking my PI.
Does anyone else find themselves in the same situation? Sounds like you are in an alliance with crap tactics, a "throw ships into a meat grinder" approach and then expect you to pay for your own ships. Leave them. There are better organizations out there.
It's more likely he's just incapable of following orders which makes him die - combined with him 'tweaking' doctrine ships which will make him not-eligible for whatever SRP program his alliance runs. |

Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
66691
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Posted - 2014.08.18 12:06:00 -
[44] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Mizhir wrote:J'Poll wrote:3 words:
NPSI public fleets
Nuff said. This I made my own little NPSI fleet last night and despite us being a little ragtag fleet of max 8 people whom have never flown together and we had 1 person who never ever pvped before. We still managed to kill more than our worth. So... your catalysts ganked a hulk?
Nahh. I leave that to the Code. I don't want them to ragequit just because they get competition. One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6382
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Posted - 2014.08.18 12:16:00 -
[45] - Quote
Maeltstome wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Otuk Andven wrote:I'm in a bit of a funk at present. I find pvp interesting even though I'm terrible at it but I find myself doing it less and less. Why? Because its such a hassle to do.
I'm in a null sec coalition so generally you have to wait to ops (at times that aren't very convenient to you) travel over 50 jumps and deal with jump clone timers. Bankrupt yourself getting a useable ship for the fleet (often tweaking official doctrines to because you don't have t2 guns) then wait for 5 minutes before moving off, only to die in 15 minutes and get podded back those 50 jumps without getting on any KMs.
I mean when there is a neut in the pocket I'm ready and willing to jump into a HD ship and take them on but if its an op my general reaction is do I have to? Because I have to go though all of that while I could be doing something productive in the same time. Or at the very least checking my PI.
Does anyone else find themselves in the same situation? Sounds like you are in an alliance with crap tactics, a "throw ships into a meat grinder" approach and then expect you to pay for your own ships. Leave them. There are better organizations out there. It's more likely he's just incapable of following orders which makes him die - combined with him 'tweaking' doctrine ships which will make him not-eligible for whatever SRP program his alliance runs. Ah, let's take a look at the secret forums and see who has the latest hilarious "you are denied reimbursement" reimbursement request.
Occasionally it gets broadcast to all-all, as a reminder that terrible fits not only get denied (which they always are) but occasionally you may get broadcast to all-all, so everyone else remembers that terrible fits get denied. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
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Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2014.08.18 12:25:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Mizhir wrote:J'Poll wrote:3 words:
NPSI public fleets
Nuff said. This I made my own little NPSI fleet last night and despite us being a little ragtag fleet of max 8 people whom have never flown together and we had 1 person who never ever pvped before. We still managed to kill more than our worth. So... your catalysts ganked a hulk? Nahh. I leave that to the Code. I don't want them to ragequit just because they get competition.
We welcome competition but when we discover other gankers we typically find they don't know what they're doing. When we find a good one usually they come work for us.
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.18 12:32:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: Me, while I'm not a super dedicated pvp type, i like fleet fights and despite my bad luck (why oh WHY did I make a pvp main with a name that starts with a C, also screw enemy FCs why use the alphabet for target calling) I keep coming back. I should get "F1 Monkey" tattoo'd on my left ass cheek or something.
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Rose of Shadow
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Posted - 2014.08.18 12:38:00 -
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It has been said before, go to low-sec to do pvp. If you really care a lot about making ISK, go do FW.
If you just want to have fun, just do lowsec pvp (in FW space without being in FW) in frigs/dessies/cruisers. It's a low cost / high fun factor way of playing in my opinion. There are loads of corps in lowsec hanging around being friendly with eachother but still shooting eachother for the sport of it.
Ofc you have the less friendly people but ok. Those are everywhere  |
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