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Rodj Blake Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.21 11:44:00 - [31] Originally by: Telemicus Thrace As ever you raise irrelevant details in a pathetic attempt to draw attention away from the clear and simple point I made. You claimed that the Republic hold responsibility for Muritor because he trained there. I simply pointed out how stupid your comments were. I raised irrelevant details? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was you who started talking about Blood Raiders, Sanshas and Guristas. Quote: After he stole Republic assets and was made an outlaw the Repblic has engaged in a man hunt. I'd call that interference, if PIE Inc can do any better please show us. I'll give you a clue though, he probably ain't flying an unarmed hoarder so you pilots may be a touch outclassed. I'm sure that this manhunt will prove to be a fruitless one. Whether that's due to the normal Republic incompetence or something more sinister remains to be seen. I can also assure you that we are capable of destroying far more than unarmed hoarders. Should you choose to fly one though, you should know that you will be shown no mercy. Quote: Is that the shrinking of Amarrian glands I can hear? arguing a minor point of grammar so you don't make an explicit accusation? Why so afraid? "he may be working for the Republic"? well in that case I may be the Amarrian Emperor in disguise, your god may have been created by the Fedo who are just playing dumb and have a good laugh at your expense. If you want to start throwing accusations around and rattling that little sabre of yours do it properly. Only a closed mind rules out the possible. Only an insane mind rules in the impossible. In this thread you have so far shown your mind to be both closed and insane. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Rocius Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.07.21 12:58:00 - [32] Originally by: Vera Nosfyu And what do you suppose to do about it? Retaliate and attack the Republic? By all means, please. I would like nothing more than if you forced the hands of the slackers, cowards, and idealists who would otherwise keep themselves at arms length. What gives YOU the right to decide what is in the best interst of the Republic. You have long since abandonded it to fend for itself. While you are out doing your own thing, those of us that want to see the Republic built up, for what is no doubt an inevitable war are here, at home, working to see she is ready for it. So if you wish to be on the fringes, living on your own, so be it, but do not even begin to claim anything otherwise. If your not working for the GOOD of the Republic, then you are working against it. I see loyalists called cowards and slackers very often, and frankly it irrates the hell out of me. Personaly, I find that the courage and conviction displayed by those that strive to make things better at HOME, far greater than the cowardice I see in many, that stand from afar and cast stones. Rocius CEO, Gradient
Camar Stormriders	Posted - 2006.07.21 14:52:00 - [33] What would give YOU the same right mr. Rocius? And claiming an SRS pilot has abonded the republic is just ignorant. We have stated on several occasions where our loyalty lies. Both do we act, but in different ways, but should we claim Gradient has abonded the republic? Have we EVER done that? And perhaps Vera's words were aimed to those inside the republic goverment who only cares about their own personal power and wealth? So why do you feel targeted by the terms "Slacker/Coward"?
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.21 15:18:00 - [34] Hearing you say you are loyal, and seeing you act against the laws and international treaties our Republic has signed, seeking to bring down a conflict that would drown us - which do you think speak louder, actions or words, Camar? Peace in a pod - Liberty Network Gradient is hiring
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.07.21 15:42:00 - [35] Edited by: Telemicus Thrace on 21/07/2006 15:43:44 Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Telemicus Thrace As ever you raise irrelevant details in a pathetic attempt to draw attention away from the clear and simple point I made. You claimed that the Republic hold responsibility for Muritor because he trained there. I simply pointed out how stupid your comments were. I raised irrelevant details? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was you who started talking about Blood Raiders, Sanshas and Guristas. Yes, perfect examples of why it is rediculous for you to hold a state responsible for actions commited by groups that state regards as outlaws simply because those outlaws were once members of that state. If you still can't understand that simple point I'm just going to have to write you off as a retard. Originally by: Rodj Blake Quote: Is that the shrinking of Amarrian glands I can hear? arguing a minor point of grammar so you don't make an explicit accusation? Why so afraid? "he may be working for the Republic"? well in that case I may be the Amarrian Emperor in disguise, your god may have been created by the Fedo who are just playing dumb and have a good laugh at your expense. If you want to start throwing accusations around and rattling that little sabre of yours do it properly. Only a closed mind rules out the possible. Only an insane mind rules in the impossible. In this thread you have so far shown your mind to be both closed and insane. Insane and closed minded. Wow. You really do talk a lot of krud don't you. >> RECRUITING <<
Rocius Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.07.21 16:34:00 - [36] Edited by: Rocius on 21/07/2006 16:34:42 Originally by: Camar What would give YOU the same right mr. Rocius? And claiming an SRS pilot has abonded the republic is just ignorant. We have stated on several occasions where our loyalty lies. Both do we act, but in different ways, but should we claim Gradient has abonded the republic? Have we EVER done that? And perhaps Vera's words were aimed to those inside the republic goverment who only cares about their own personal power and wealth? So why do you feel targeted by the terms "Slacker/Coward"? Well, Camar to be honest, the basic fact that I have stayed home, and worked tirelessly for nothing other than to see the infrastructure of the Repubic strengthened is a good start. Of course, not running around dropping tactical nukes on civilian populations in a vain attempt to agress the situation beyond control kinda work in my favor a bit as well I would think. Trying to incite a full scale war Camar, does nothing but harm to the Republic. You know damn well that the Amarr Empire is a vast powerful nation. For the Republic to take that on, is something that will take carefull and dedicated planning, not running around like a rabid slaver hound attacking anything that moves. It is of no regard to me where Vera's words were pointed, as she painted the entire Republic with a broad stroke, she attacks all that are loyal to it. There is problems inside the Government, that is something that I have personaly NEVER spoken against. With politics, comes corruption. I would think that be a universal law, its in their basic nature. There are a great many changes that I would like to see happen within The Republic, but I stay, with a steadfast dedication to the principle of the Republic. It is far easier to stand at a distance and ridicule things, it takes much more courage to stand up and work to change them properly. I hope that the day comes, that many of these petty differences can be put behind us. I do not like standing on opposite sides from my brethren like this, it saddens me greatly to do so. But so strong is my belief, that The Republic is our one greatest hope of seeing our enslaved kin one day set free, that I will indeed do what it takes to see it done. Rocius CEO, Gradient
Tomahawk Bliss	Posted - 2006.07.21 17:40:00 - [37] Originally by: Camar Divide et impera
Camar Stormriders	Posted - 2006.07.21 17:57:00 - [38] There is one very big difference though Tomahawk, SRS will not declare war on Gradient for their views or for whatever they wishes to call us. We know what we do, where we stand and Gradient holds no power or sway what so ever over that. They wish to bring change their way, we in our way. WE could not stay idle while amarrians trespassed into (and still do) minmatar space kidnapping and killing our brethren. What I do not understand is why they speak against those who take up arms against those slavers while they themselves help the infrastructure. How would it be possible to build all that and try and create a peaceful future when your neighbour constanly burns down what you build and kill your children? SRS is still based inside republic space and are contributing in every way we can think of. Is it not true that the republic sends military-intrusions into amarr space as well? A treaty or written rule would be words and minmatar navy ships inside amarr space action. So yes, actions do speak louder then words.
Aran Cole Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.21 18:38:00 - [39] Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Originally by: Camar Divide et impera _______________________
Al Haquis Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.21 20:24:00 - [40] HELLO CAN PEOPLE W**K OFF , Some where else with this silly polictical disucssion. Only think that actually matter is that, I Have A Hard On For The Wings of Maak You kill them good guys. With Love from Al Haquis ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Council Member, Tahiri Warrior Masuat'aa Forums
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.07.22 05:12:00 - [41] Originally by: Al Haquis HELLO CAN PEOPLE W**K OFF , Some where else with this silly polictical disucssion. Only think that actually matter is that, I Have A Hard On For The Wings of Maak You kill them good guys. With Love from Al Haquis HAhahahahaaar!! Well said. You are right. Fly fast and strike hard brothers >> RECRUITING <<
Sherisha Janeer	Posted - 2006.07.23 01:27:00 - [42] For all our differences, the Amarr races have a tendacny to agree on one major point. We are supierior in everyway to the Minimitar. What we also agree on, though our techniques may differ, is that eventually you are destined for one destiny alone, to serve us. Your very failure to see eye to eye only emphasises this one truth. You can't even agree on who is loyal to their people or who is loyal to their nation. We Amarrians see people and nation as one in the whole, service and deferance are on eand the same, that is why we maintain the upper hand, and always will.
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.07.23 02:08:00 - [43] Originally by: Sherisha Janeer ...We are supierior in everyway to the Minimitar... This makes me laugh every time I see it. Originally by: Sherisha Janeer ...We Amarrians see people and nation as one in the whole... The Khanid Kingdom is made up of Amarrians yet is seperate from the Empire. The Blood Raiders are an Amarrian cult yet they are not part of your nation. The Verisum Family are Amarrians, do you still consider them part of the Empire? There are plenty of Amarrians who seek reform within the Empire and an end to slavery. They will kill you just as surly as I will. Are they part of your Empire still? Of course these are simple facts, presented simply. A cretin like you won't be able to grasp them. I'm sure we can expect another clueless and nonsense response from some fanatical moron who will atempt to refute these facts and also tell us the Eve Gate is made from cream cheese. Save it, we are not interested in your gibberings here. As Al so succinctly put it take the **** elsewhere. >> RECRUITING <<
zenofmoo Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.23 05:02:00 - [44] So I think the solution to this bit of news is quite simple, either the Minmatar Republic can take care of this threat to The Amarr Empire, or we will be forced to dispatch this threat ourselves. I'm not entirely sure why this is even a discussion. By the Republics own admission these are traitirs and deserters, WHO should dispatch them should matter not.
Rodj Blake Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.23 09:13:00 - [45] Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Originally by: Sherisha Janeer ...We Amarrians see people and nation as one in the whole... The Khanid Kingdom is made up of Amarrians yet is seperate from the Empire. The Blood Raiders are an Amarrian cult yet they are not part of your nation. The Verisum Family are Amarrians, do you still consider them part of the Empire? There are plenty of Amarrians who seek reform within the Empire and an end to slavery. They will kill you just as surly as I will. Are they part of your Empire still? Of course these are simple facts, presented simply. A cretin like you won't be able to grasp them. I'm sure we can expect another clueless and nonsense response from some fanatical moron who will atempt to refute these facts and also tell us the Eve Gate is made from cream cheese. Save it, we are not interested in your gibberings here. As Al so succinctly put it take the **** elsewhere. I refer you to your earlier statement, where you agree with Al Haquis that this is not the place for political discussion. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.07.23 09:41:00 - [46] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Originally by: Sherisha Janeer ...We Amarrians see people and nation as one in the whole... The Khanid Kingdom is made up of Amarrians yet is seperate from the Empire. The Blood Raiders are an Amarrian cult yet they are not part of your nation. The Verisum Family are Amarrians, do you still consider them part of the Empire? There are plenty of Amarrians who seek reform within the Empire and an end to slavery. They will kill you just as surly as I will. Are they part of your Empire still? Of course these are simple facts, presented simply. A cretin like you won't be able to grasp them. I'm sure we can expect another clueless and nonsense response from some fanatical moron who will atempt to refute these facts and also tell us the Eve Gate is made from cream cheese. Save it, we are not interested in your gibberings here. As Al so succinctly put it take the **** elsewhere. I refer you to your earlier statement, where you agree with Al Haquis that this is not the place for political discussion. Did you make it all the way to my last sentance or did I use too many long words for you again? >> RECRUITING <<
Sherisha Janeer	Posted - 2006.07.23 10:00:00 - [47] Originally by: Telemicus Thrace The Khanid Kingdom is made up of Amarrians yet is seperate from the Empire. The Blood Raiders are an Amarrian cult yet they are not part of your nation. The Verisum Family are Amarrians, do you still consider them part of the Empire? There are plenty of Amarrians who seek reform within the Empire and an end to slavery. They will kill you just as surly as I will. Are they part of your Empire still? Of course these are simple facts, presented simply. A cretin like you won't be able to grasp them. I'm sure we can expect another clueless and nonsense response from some fanatical moron who will atempt to refute these facts and also tell us the Eve Gate is made from cream cheese. Save it, we are not interested in your gibberings here. As Al so succinctly put it take the **** elsewhere. All society has it's elements and levels of herasy. As Khanid I know all to well the stigma of heretic, and yet none can deny the Khanid's dedication to old Amarrian ideals and traditions. The small pockets who seek "reformation" are soon swayed to our way ofthinking after a Minimatr animal has killed their mother's, father's, brothers and sisters. Many Khanid still serve the Empire, those most loyal to the interests of the Kingdom do seek better relations with the Empire and heal old wounds. Our family disagreements should not be confused with the ancient tribal bloodfueds your race was so accustoned too when we arrived and bought peace to your barbaric system. Your republic, for what it is, is but a tiny step in the right direction for a civilised culture. But you still have much to learn before you can achieve the enlightenment of true civilisation. You are still a fractured nation, biting at each other's heals. YOu cannot accept one leader out of many chiefs, and you have more "traitors" to your whatever ideals your mongrol race decide are prevelant to the moment at hand.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.23 10:42:00 - [48] Quote: The small pockets who seek "reformation" are soon swayed to our way of thinking after a Minmatar animal has killed their mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters. There are Matari factions who do not endorse attacks on civilian populations. In addition, you have to understand that this hatred towards your people in those who do stems from similiar and worse barbarian actions against ours. The reformation you speak of is your best chance of avoiding the incidents you fear. Fighting those among you who seek a peaceful solution and supporting those who do not serves only to provoke more bloodshed. Peace in a pod - Liberty Network Gradient is hiring
Sherisha Janeer	Posted - 2006.07.23 11:08:00 - [49] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon There are Matari factions who do not endorse attacks on civilian populations. In addition, you have to understand that this hatred towards your people in those who do stems from similiar and worse barbarian actions against ours. The reformation you speak of is your best chance of avoiding the incidents you fear. Fighting those among you who seek a peaceful solution and supporting those who do not serves only to provoke more bloodshed. The Amatar and their so called "enlightend" ilk are well known to the Khanid, though personally I see them as little more than well trained cattle. Favoured slaves who have learned their place well. As for the more "peaceful" amongst you, I recognise this well too. It is better to submit to the dragon, than spit in his face. Your efforts at "peace" will not go unnoticed. Indeed, from time to time you are rewarded for your wisdom. As for reformation. One cannot change what has worked so well millenia before your people even discovered how to set sail on seas. Our empire became great because of it.
Rodj Blake Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.23 12:48:00 - [50] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 23/07/2006 12:51:20 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 23/07/2006 12:50:26 Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Did you make it all the way to my last sentance or did I use too many long words for you again? Making political statements with a "this is not the place for politics" caveat does not make you a clever debater. It makes you a hypocrite. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.07.24 03:00:00 - [51] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 23/07/2006 12:51:20 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 23/07/2006 12:50:26 Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Did you make it all the way to my last sentance or did I use too many long words for you again? Making political statements with a "this is not the place for politics" caveat does not make you a clever debater. It makes you a hypocrite. You and your lackys should make another thread for your drivel then. Posting it here then calling anyone who responds to it a hypocrite is weak. >> RECRUITING <<
Rodj Blake Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.24 07:25:00 - [52] Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 23/07/2006 12:51:20 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 23/07/2006 12:50:26 Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Did you make it all the way to my last sentance or did I use too many long words for you again? Making political statements with a "this is not the place for politics" caveat does not make you a clever debater. It makes you a hypocrite. You and your lackys should make another thread for your drivel then. Posting it here then calling anyone who responds to it a hypocrite is weak. I don't know who these lackeys that you're referring to are. I initially came to this thread to respond to comments here regarding the degenerate Minmatar Muritor and his self-styled defiants. Should I make a new thread every time I want to respond to something? I will, however, not be posting any more new information to this thread, because I think that I've said all that needs to be said. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.07.24 09:49:00 - [53] Originally by: Rodj Blake .. Should I make a new thread every time I want to respond to something?.. Oh yeah, thats what I said. I wasn't just referring to this thread at all. Perhaps you should refrain from posting at all until you gain some basic comprehension skills. >> RECRUITING <<
Rodj Blake Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.24 10:25:00 - [54] Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Originally by: Rodj Blake .. Should I make a new thread every time I want to respond to something?.. Oh yeah, thats what I said. I wasn't just referring to this thread at all. Perhaps you should refrain from posting at all until you gain some basic comprehension skills. I refer you to my previous statement: Originally by: me I will, however, not be posting any more new information to this thread, because I think that I've said all that needs to be said. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Tharrn Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.24 10:43:00 - [55] Each and every post of Telemicus seems to be absolutely devoid of content. Read one skillbook of 'Smacktalking for beginners' too much, haven't we? Welcome back to the fight, Maak. Interestint to see some 'Freedom Fighters' in Empire again. Now recruiting!
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.07.25 02:40:00 - [56] Originally by: Tharrn Each and every post of Telemicus seems to be absolutely devoid of content. Read one skillbook of 'Smacktalking for beginners' too much, haven't we? .. Really?, you have ignored all the perfectly valid points I have made and you and your bretheren have resorted instead to calling me a hypocrite and now smack talker. How classy. Your minions made political remarks which I felt compelled to respond to. My responses to you cannot refute or challenge so you resort to misquotes and insults. You and your kind routinely avoid any real debate or argument and constantly go for the cheap shot. Even now you insist or insulting me here leaving me the option to respond and be called a hypocrite again or to let this insult ride. A wise man once said "Never argue with fools, they will only drag you down to their level." I should have heeded his advice. Every time I try to speak to one of you filth it always degenerates to this. I will henceforce try to restrict myself to communicating with you via heavy artillery. I'll have to rely on other Matari to get an intelligent debate. >> RECRUITING <<

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