This is why, IRL, there is regulation of betting on competitions.

Remove the regulations, and you will find some cunning people that win bets in devious ways.

Why would they be "punished"?

Why didn't you read the arguments?

Your friends loyal-thingie and DJ-boy say they took ISK to forfeit this Fight.
This means they tried to manipulate an E-Sports event, that would be reason enough for punishment.

However, i consider this a lie. This act of cowardice yesterday was an Epic Fail and now codies like you try desparatly to give the catastrophe another spin.

You all failed.

I would say they accomplished their objectives.

> Implying that rigging a match is against rules

> Implying CCP cares about the bets (which are a third party service).

This is why, IRL, there is regulation of betting on competitions.

Remove the regulations, and you will find some cunning people that win bets in devious ways.

I'm not sure you understand what devious means...topical that's what is says on my vanity plate!

The eve-bet odds had their win odds at like 1.10 - so for every billion they put down they'd get....100mil?

Not to burst your bubble but this isn't how you make money fixing matches.

Anyway!

I assumed this 200 Billion Story was just made up create some spin away from this EPIC FAIL. Following the sources i have CODE. dosn't stick to this 200 Billion ISK Story anymore.

Still:
If they *had* done this and boasted about in the all the forums, the Sponsors like EvE Bet would Adress CCP and CCP would have been forced to act. Even the whole Tournament would be in Question.

The difference to prior cases is, that the inflicted parties never confirmed that their fights where fixed. No hard evidence, no case. This time CODE. wanted to make believe they did it, before AT was over. You could not possibly ignore that.

CCP will deal with it as they see fit,

trying to start another Ripard Teg moral outrage style witchhunt on the forums is not doing anybody any favours.

Personally I'm a bit miffed, RvB vs CODE should have been an amusing matchup to watch.

A witchhunt:
Accusing innocent woman of witchcraft.

This aint no witchhunt by far. Codies themself claim manipulating the AT, there goes the "innocence".

You too have a problem with Rippard Teg like the codies? You are a friend?

Nice Pic i assume you are.

erotica1 was banned by CCP and a certain amount of people that thought different like you and the codies. Not Tegs Fault. But its codie treat to accuse RT for it. Ignoring that their group that thought e1 could stay is smaller than the group that thought e1 has to go.

I am talking buisiness, RL business, buisiness from Sponsors and CCP. Whats your problem, what kind of toy is it, that you are afraid of losing?

I'm not sure you understand what devious means...topical that's what is says on my vanity plate!

The eve-bet odds had their win odds at like 1.10 - so for every billion they put down they'd get....100mil?

Not to burst your bubble but this isn't how you make money fixing matches.

Odds on a CODE. loss were not good. Odds on a CODE. 100-0 whelping were a bit better.

The betting market expected RVB to lose some ships in the round.

WatGäó? How the hell is my portrait even halfway relevant to the topic at hand?

Erotica was banned for taking a long standing practice too far, I categorically did not support what he did, only the right of people to relieve other people of their stuff ingame. Personally I found his implementation of it distasteful, and I'm on record as saying so.

- Business is CCPs concern not mine,
- or yours.
- Pushing them to rush their judgement does no favours for anyone.

The only toy I'm afraid of losing is Eve, I don't want to see it turned into some themepark disguised as a sandbox. I don't like themeparks, therefore I don't play them; I play Eve instead.

Odds on a CODE. loss were not good

honestly the best part of all of this is the massive amount hate

So go, continue spreading propaganda and hate,

Nice try, this Pic might be an attempt to offend me (nope), one has to assume you want to say something. Am i wrong? Then i suggest you stop licking the spoon and delete the leading "s".


What you *are* saying is:

"Please let the poor codies alone, they have such a hard time at the moment"

Also you are like the codies closing the eyes to the fact that this happend to be in Teamspeak and was a massive abuse of EvE. EvE is a Sandbox as long as you stay in EvE. You leave the sandbox, common sense comes back.Also you say
"Well he took it to far, that happens" and you dont need any consequences?
CCP should have said "bad bad e1 don't do this agin..."
Somewhat soft for those wannabe hardcore guys.

- So it does not concern you, thats alright.
- I *make* it my buisiness.
- You are just trying to quite me up. CODE. ist foolish enough to make everything public. So here i am.

Thats a common excuse for every major Mishapp in EvE.

Things happen to have consequence even and especially in EvE. Where else you can loose your equippment for real, virtual thousands of dollars value for a titankill.

But now for some hardheads, who have no problems kicking the weak and the beginners, you want to protect those?
Why ?

EvE doesn't die if some "ignorants" get thrown out. Also EvE is not here to please just *you*, its here to earn money for CCP by having a lot of customers and not some wimps that are driving newbies from the game. I hardly can imagine EvE turning into a theme park, but if some people push something to hard, rules will be set.

When I was in minerbumping channel and heard that CODE was entering the AT.

I asked one thing and thing only.

"Please take this serious"

This is one of those tournament that I want to be part of one day. I don't want people to make a mockery out of it.

Since when did beginners fly freighters?

So once again, what relevance

I do have a problem with the way that a CSM member and blogger of repute went about bringing Erotica's actions to the attention of CCP. Using his position to post an inflammatory rant

I'm not trying to shut you up, I'm asking you to show some patience. If CCP decide to punish CODE for throwing the tournament, then so be it, if they don't, then so be it. You "making" this your business should have no effect on what CCP do, it's not particularly important in the grand scheme of things, neither are you.

Continued below.

No one is entitled to an opinion.

Opinions are a granted right by those in power.

And the biggest irony is that you hide behind an NPC forum alt... *snickers xD*

If you want play dumb, you are doing a good Job.
I spoke of a Picture you linked.
Not "relevance" check for "Relevant".

It was inflammatory for you and the codies maybe.
It wasn't for me and i shared his oppinon before.
Whats really bad is, that you try to belittle the oppinion of lots of other EvE players and it seems you think they only protested, because of this influence. This is utter nonsense. Did he bring this to a broader Audience? Yes, so what? E1 is the mongrel, not RT.

Ripard Teg is entitled to have an Oppinion, as are you and so am i.
I will voice my Oppinion. hint: check wikipedia for larynx.
You could have noticed, i asked a question in the beginning.

I give you back those alleged reading problems, since i think i made myself clear.
Of course i am not talking of freighters, as you said, beginner do not / can not fly them.

Best of all:
CODE. would be happy if people would believe they took a bribe. But they didn't, they just Failed Hard. Those are all excuses.
And now comes the fun Part: Wouldn't it be nice if CODE. would be banned for something they didn't do? Just because they said the did? Why not discuss it? You sure that CODE. needs a lawyer? Why you wanna make this your thing?
You could just ignore this thread!

It does figure that the NPC corp alt is the one trying to defend Riptard.

Npc corp... check.

You should

Banning a group of griefers, that kill 3 day old chars and brag about it, will not harm EvE. Considering they even try hard to directly force other gamers from EvE, this is "harrasment" in my oppinion, a bannable offense.

"Oppinions"

Proven cowards can hardly doubt others courage.
And talking of delusions of others is also something where you have to look at the guy in the mirror,

Please show me proof that I am a coward...
Feel free to come to Hek and get your candy ass kicked, bigmouth.

I dare you, coward.

Oh a d please list your chars, all of them,
as obviously you are brave enough to do so.

Not just forum alts you can hide behind.

Proven cowards can hardly doubt others courage.
And talking of delusions of others is also something where you have to look at the guy in the mirror,

You do know that Solecist is far from a New Order supporter, right?

Right?

*cough*

Hey I see you finally fixed the issue with the pose! :D

Not sure what you mean.

You defy categorization and it drives me crazy. Can I hand you a cardboard box for you to sit in an a marker to write on it? =P

You defy categorization and it drives me crazy. Can I hand you a cardboard box for you to sit in an a marker to write on it? =P

Use a Purple marker... bitches love purple...

I wanted to help, but from my understanding April screwed me over quicker than (I had a rather funny joke but I felt it would be wrong to post so I felt self restraint and came up with this one instead) the opening of the Mets season.

I would have love to assist. From my understanding,...


That being said, how much for round two! I mean I am not any Glass Joe.

Regardless.
I can't be the same thing to you now, I'm just gone. Just gone.
How could I say goodbye Kane, how could I?
Just let them think that I am more a man than I am and I will be so.
Goodbye?

(Mixed metaphors)

The problem though is. It is one less group of people I now trust in the game to actually do as they say. Sine the gents in CODE confided in me they will not smear what AT stands for, that this to them is a Serious event.

I maybe just have a very different outlook compared to others on events like the AT.

It was inflammatory, and an abuse of his position regardless of how you try to spin it. If he had gone through the correct channels, rather than publicly calling for the head of another player then the witch hunt he started would never have happened, neither would the controversy and threadnaught it caused, complete with threats of physical violence aimed at Erotica from some players, for which there was no justification.

I chuckle every time I see these continued attacks on Ripard Teg. You guys are obsessed with this topic, desperately trying to rewrite what actually occurred.

What occurred is simple. Ripard Teg brought attention to a topic that the vast majority had not been aware of. What you don't like is the fact that the vast majority of people agreed with him rather than you. Sure, he presented his argument in the manner he thought would most likely achieve his objective.

Stating that the manner of presentation entirely resulted in the manner of response is insulting since you are saying that everyone who disagrees with your point of view is so unintelligent that they are readily swayed by rhetoric. Which is clearly untrue since the vast majority of players just find the CODE and miner bumping rhetoric to be childish rather than convincing.

The most amusing part of this AT episode clearly shows that CODE has great difficulty separating in game from out of game, sonething which is hugely amusing considering their main defensive line. Deception and being untrustworthy in game is fine but AT management is not, strictly speaking, in game. CODE showed a blatant lack of respect for CCP, RvB, the viewers and the supporters. I doubt this was their intent. I think they are just confused about in game vs out of game.

But that shouldn't be a surprise since that is exactly what caused the Erotica1 behaviour.

I chuckle every time I see these continued attacks on Ripard Teg. You guys are obsessed with this topic, desperately trying to rewrite what actually occurred.

What occurred is simple. Ripard Teg brought attention to a topic that the vast majority had not been aware of. What you don't like is the fact that the vast majority of people agreed with him rather than you. Sure, he presented his argument in the manner he thought would most likely achieve his objective.

Stating that the manner of presentation entirely resulted in the manner of response is insulting since you are saying that everyone who disagrees with your point of view is so unintelligent that they are readily swayed by rhetoric. Which is clearly untrue since the vast majority of players just find the CODE and miner bumping rhetoric to be childish rather than convincing.

The most amusing part of this AT episode clearly shows that CODE has great difficulty separating in game from out of game, sonething which is hugely amusing considering their main defensive line. Deception and being untrustworthy in game is fine but AT management is not, strictly speaking, in game. CODE showed a blatant lack of respect for CCP, RvB, the viewers and the supporters. I doubt this was their intent. I think they are just confused about in game vs out of game.

But that shouldn't be a surprise since that is exactly what caused the Erotica1 behaviour.

No one is entitled to an opinion.

Opinions are a granted right by those in power.

If suddenly your nation decides that they are not willing to grant you this right ...
... they will use weapons to make you realise that NO ONE is entitled to ANYTHING!
Please show me how your opinions matter in front of an execution squad.

You are spoiled, self righteous and full of yourself that you BELIEVE you are ...
... but that's all there is to it!

Reality... it will come and haunt you eventually....

Everyone knows the only reason code dropped out of the AT was because they realized last minute they would be fighting real pvpers.

Real PVPrs who paid them 200 billion ISK to throw the match....:)

Real PVPrs who paid them 200 billion ISK to throw the match....:)

Please, for the love of god, STOP THAT.

but nobody will care.

You do know that Solecist is far from a New Order supporter, right?

Right?

Then Sir, you are a slow learner. Their Page is full of Betrayals to People that thought to be "close" to them.

Even though your replies don't mean anything since you are just a NPC Player.

Serious news.

If you truly believe the following....

1. NPC Corp players cant have a point ever in any single forum in eve and epecially not C&P, cause you are "just" npc players and therefore robots who know jack **** about anything especially pvp or eve politics.
2. There is only carebears in NPC corps.
3. NPC Corp players never have any alts at all.

...then you should probably biomass yourself.

You people should get over yourself, it doesnt matter what corp a player belongs to a valid point is still a valid Point and everyone is damn free to express themselves here, dont like it? Go somewhere else. If you cant discuss something with someones alt your probably cant discuss it with his main either, cause you know what? There is no difference other then you cant dec his corp for disagreeing with you.

The whole "Im better then you cause Im not in a NPC corp" **** gets old, real fast. Seems its just a bitter reply when a NPC corp player beats you in the braingames.

I am sorry, you dont seem to understand.

It is not the NPC corp that makes the point invalid, its the poster.

You do realize you said exactly what I said right? I didnt point to any particular person or post now did I?

I am sorry,

you dont seem to understand.

Obviously *you* did not understand.
If you would have been reading all of that post, you would have recognized your point was addressed and invalidated.

It was?

Yes.

It appears, that you are not the smartest and brightest:
It was invalidatet by her:
"Sarah xCalibre"
"Aggressive Stance"

I suggest you read her first posting again.

So: bad Luck you wannabe toughguy.

@ Leto you may find this handy

I particularly like the option marked with the X in a red circle. It cleans the forums up no end.

I think we can all just agree that I'm the best at everything.

For now let's just concede that you are in the top two posters in this thread.