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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.17 22:05:00 -
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Will there be a punishment for CODE. since it is a kind of manipulation on bets of the outcome of this fight? I am sure RvB would have kicked them into the curbs, however this is a affront to the sincere AT fighters, CCP and the Audience?
Or will they be spared of consequences since they acted like kindergarden children? Forum Main |
Vorn
Shi no Kage Honorable Third Party
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Posted - 2014.08.17 22:18:00 -
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A manipulation of bets is part of metagaming.
See: previous ATs.
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1107
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Posted - 2014.08.17 23:05:00 -
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Why did they do that anyhow? Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
Valkin Mordirc
108
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Posted - 2014.08.18 00:06:00 -
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I missed the match as well, did they just not fight ooorrr what? Psychotic Monk for CSM9 |
cratais
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
24
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Posted - 2014.08.18 00:42:00 -
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nope apparently our alliance team banned catas and talos and they logged off so wasn't a fight don't know how ccp would punish them or if it even worth punishing them since they will more than likely not show up next week and be eliminated anyways and circle of two will get themselves a bye next week. |
Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
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Posted - 2014.08.18 00:52:00 -
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Just waking up everyday and being themselves is punishment enough, besides it will be fun watching them try to put a positive spin on this. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
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Posted - 2014.08.18 01:28:00 -
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This is why, IRL, there is regulation of betting on competitions.
Remove the regulations, and you will find some cunning people that win bets in devious ways. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
829
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Posted - 2014.08.18 02:39:00 -
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It wouldn't be the first time somebody jobbed an AT match to make ISK (or, dare I say it, some actual bucks).
The main consensus is just that they were horribad and without Catalyst's and/or Talo's they didn't have a backup fleet comp and so basically declined to play.
As for 'punishment'..........
ROFLMAO
For what, exactly?
Also, post on your main or GTFO.
Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
121
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Posted - 2014.08.18 04:20:00 -
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I enjoy being 4b richer. That was nice Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.08.18 07:28:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:This is why, IRL, there is regulation of betting on competitions.
Remove the regulations, and you will find some cunning people that win bets in devious ways.
Uuuhh, smart!
Well, no!
You mean you found a betting broker that let you bet on "forfeiting"? You bet on win or lose, but running away gets you a refund at best,
Not very cunning of you. Lets state the fact: codies failed massivly. All the rest are the sad and obvious tries to save the tiniest bit of reputation.
But even on that: again : CODE. fails.
Excuse me in my Opinion all Excuses are a lie, especialy the "betting wins / money transfer"
A possible xx Billion ISK win at the same time? Guy how sad is this? The CODE. AT flight was absolutly Priceless!
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StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
138
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Posted - 2014.08.18 12:53:00 -
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The only thing that needs to happen is CCP developing a plan for something to fill the time when stuff like that happens. Signature Removal in Progress, Estimated time of completion? Neva |
Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1109
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Posted - 2014.08.18 12:55:00 -
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This thread is dumb.
CODE are not the only team to ever forfeit a match during the AT. Why would they be "punished"?
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.18 14:29:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Why would they be "punished"?
Why didn't you read the arguments?
Your friends loyal-thingie and DJ-boy say they took ISK to forfeit this Fight. This means they tried to manipulate an E-Sports event, that would be reason enough for punishment.
However, i consider this a lie. This act of cowardice yesterday was an Epic Fail and now codies like you try desparatly to give the catastrophe another spin.
You all failed.
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1109
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Posted - 2014.08.18 14:36:00 -
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La Rynx wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Why would they be "punished"?
Why didn't you read the arguments? Your friends loyal-thingie and DJ-boy say they took ISK to forfeit this Fight. This means they tried to manipulate an E-Sports event, that would be reason enough for punishment. However, i consider this a lie. This act of cowardice yesterday was an Epic Fail and now codies like you try desparatly to give the catastrophe another spin. You all failed.
My "friends" would blow me up just as soon as they would you, mate. (And have before, mind you)
I did read the arguments, but since no punishment is outlined in the rules, no punishment can be levied afterwards.
If they did indeed take isk to throw the fight, how can they have "failed"? I would say they accomplished their objectives. Wouldnt you? Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
Vorn
Shi no Kage Honorable Third Party
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Posted - 2014.08.18 14:40:00 -
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> Implying other AT's haven't ever had that problem. > Implying that rigging a match is against rules > Implying CCP cares about the bets (which are a third party service).
lrn2metagame |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2014.08.18 15:03:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:I would say they accomplished their objectives.
Of course you would like to spin it that way. Question: Which objectives?
The ones mentioned *after* the codies botched the match? Or the boasts they did sometime before the AT started?
I consider that what codies said before. And everything after that as frantic tries to give this Epic Fail another spin.
Yes in my opinion this is still an Epic Fail. You can't spin that either.
Vorn wrote: > Implying that rigging a match is against rules
Indeed. Especially when you try to make it looking official.
Vorn wrote: > Implying CCP cares about the bets (which are a third party service).
Not the bets. The alleged Bribe Forum Main |
Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1109
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Posted - 2014.08.18 15:23:00 -
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Lol, I am not "spinning" anything. I dont really care.
You asked if they were gonna be punished, the answer is no. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
5134
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Posted - 2014.08.18 15:35:00 -
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Dear good lookin' forum alt...
... the facts of the matter are easily understood.
There never was punishment involved for metagaming the ATs ... ... and there never will be, even if people don't like it.
Yours truly, Me. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - CODE, RvB, the AT, and what DJEntropy said .... :) The Mew Age Calender is in need of models! Plus payment! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4908292#post4908292 |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
123
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Posted - 2014.08.18 16:18:00 -
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Its really simple just look to the Assasin's Creed motto
"Nothing is true, everything is permited"
You can either choose to beleive the forum trolls, white-knights, conspiracy theorists, and the ones who's tinfoil hats may be choking off some of the blood getting to their brain. Or simply accept that anything goes is largely the case here since there is a very defined, small, and specific set of rules in place and use every option outside those boundaries to your advantage.
/rant Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Logan PewPew
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.18 16:21:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:This is why, IRL, there is regulation of betting on competitions.
Remove the regulations, and you will find some cunning people that win bets in devious ways.
I'm not sure you understand what devious means...topical that's what is says on my vanity plate!
The eve-bet odds had their win odds at like 1.10 - so for every billion they put down they'd get....100mil?
Not to burst your bubble but this isn't how you make money fixing matches. |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20211
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Posted - 2014.08.18 16:28:00 -
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Logan PewPew wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:This is why, IRL, there is regulation of betting on competitions.
Remove the regulations, and you will find some cunning people that win bets in devious ways. I'm not sure you understand what devious means...topical that's what is says on my vanity plate!The eve-bet odds had their win odds at like 1.10 - so for every billion they put down they'd get....100mil? Not to burst your bubble but this isn't how you make money fixing matches. It is if you bet against yourself.
Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine and into the brain, where they ferment. They then migrate to your keyboard via your fingers. That's where shiptoasts come from.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2014.08.19 13:10:00 -
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Anyway!
I assumed this 200 Billion Story was just made up create some spin away from this EPIC FAIL. Following the sources i have CODE. dosn't stick to this 200 Billion ISK Story anymore.
Still: If they *had* done this and boasted about in the all the forums, the Sponsors like EvE Bet would Adress CCP and CCP would have been forced to act. Even the whole Tournament would be in Question.
The difference to prior cases is, that the inflicted parties never confirmed that their fights where fixed. No hard evidence, no case. This time CODE. wanted to make believe they did it, before AT was over. You could not possibly ignore that. Forum Main |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20212
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Posted - 2014.08.19 14:18:00 -
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La Rynx wrote:Anyway!
I assumed this 200 Billion Story was just made up create some spin away from this EPIC FAIL. Following the sources i have CODE. dosn't stick to this 200 Billion ISK Story anymore.
Still: If they *had* done this and boasted about in the all the forums, the Sponsors like EvE Bet would Adress CCP and CCP would have been forced to act. Even the whole Tournament would be in Question.
The difference to prior cases is, that the inflicted parties never confirmed that their fights where fixed. No hard evidence, no case. This time CODE. wanted to make believe they did it, before AT was over. You could not possibly ignore that. Relevant
Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine and into the brain, where they ferment. They then migrate to your keyboard via your fingers. That's where shiptoasts come from.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
5294
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Posted - 2014.08.19 14:21:00 -
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lol look at that failure who just keeps on failing. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - CODE, RvB, the AT, and what DJEntropy said .... :) The Mew Age Calender is in need of models! Plus payment! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4908292#post4908292 |
Cannibal Kane
Cannibal Empire
4267
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Posted - 2014.08.19 14:39:00 -
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When I was in minerbumping channel and heard that CODE was entering the AT.
I asked one thing and thing only.
"Please take this serious"
This is one of those tournament that I want to be part of one day. I don't want people to make a mockery out of it. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:29:00 -
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weitergehen... Forum Main |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:30:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote: CCP will deal with it as they see fit,
And i ask what that might be.
Jonah Gravenstein wrote: trying to start another Ripard Teg moral outrage style witchhunt on the forums is not doing anybody any favours.
A witchhunt: Accusing innocent woman of witchcraft.
This aint no witchhunt by far. Codies themself claim manipulating the AT, there goes the "innocence".
You too have a problem with Rippard Teg like the codies? You are a friend? Nice Pic i assume you are. erotica1 was banned by CCP and a certain amount of people that thought different like you and the codies. Not Tegs Fault. But its codie treat to accuse RT for it. Ignoring that their group that thought e1 could stay is smaller than the group that thought e1 has to go.
I am talking buisiness, RL business, buisiness from Sponsors and CCP. Whats your problem, what kind of toy is it, that you are afraid of losing? Forum Main |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
932
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:42:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Personally I'm a bit miffed, RvB vs CODE should have been an amusing matchup to watch. Totally agree with this.
New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20219
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:46:00 -
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La Rynx wrote:A witchhunt: Accusing innocent woman of witchcraft. That's the traditional usage, these days it means the manipulation of public opinion by stirring up a moral panic. The McCarthyism in the US during the 1950's is the quintessential example of a modern day witch hunt.
Quote:This aint no witchhunt by far. Codies themself claim manipulating the AT, there goes the "innocence". Propaganda, look it up.
Quote:You too have a problem with Rippard Teg like the codies? You are a friend? I had a problem with the way he went about it, not with what he did, using his position as both a CSM member and a blogger of some repute was a gross misuse of his influence and position.
Quote:Nice Pic i assume you are. WatGäó?
Quote:erotica1 was banned by CCP and a certain amount of people that thought different like you and the codies. Not Tegs Fault. But its codie treat to accuse RT for it. Ignoring that their group that thought e1 could stay is smaller than the group that thought e1 has to go.
I am talking buisiness, RL business, buisiness from Sponsors and CCP. Whats your problem, what kind of toy is it, that you are afraid of losing? Erotica was banned for taking a long standing practice too far, I categorically did not support what he did, only the right of people to relieve other people of their stuff ingame. Personally I found his implementation of it distasteful, and I'm on record as saying so.
Business is CCPs concern not mine, or yours. Pushing them to rush their judgement does no favours for anyone.
The only toy I'm afraid of losing is Eve, I don't want to see it turned into some themepark disguised as a sandbox. I don't like themeparks, therefore I don't play them; I play Eve instead.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1116
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Posted - 2014.08.19 19:09:00 -
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^^^^^^ +10 ^^^^^^^^^^ Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
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