Controlled gates where you could level toll fees would be entertaining.

I would like to see gate camping get harder, in direct response to how high the sec is.
Proposed mechanisms:

1. Increase sentry gun damage so that perma-tanking gate guns becomes a moderate challenge again.
2. slightly increase how far from the gate it spits you out, so someone on the gate in an unbonused ship can't land a scram, only a point
3. Instant gate gun response in 1.0, and scale down to current times in 0.5 and below.
4. slight increase in the number of connections between regions such that there are 2 or 3 major choke points one can chose between major hubs (looking at you niarja).

You want to make lowsec less dangerous?

Let's make highsec more dangerous instead.

What I really want is the ability to drop bubbles in mid warp so I can catch any ship in the middle of nowhere.

And it would be cool if bubbles could actually intercept something in mid-warp and not just some 100km before arrival.

It serves no purpose but to give talentless people with too much time on their hands easy kills.

I would like to see gate camping get harder, in direct response to how high the sec is.
Proposed mechanisms:

1. Increase sentry gun damage so that perma-tanking gate guns becomes a moderate challenge again.
2. slightly increase how far from the gate it spits you out, so someone on the gate in an unbonused ship can't land a scram, only a point
3. Instant gate gun response in 1.0, and scale down to current times in 0.5 and below.
4. slight increase in the number of connections between regions such that there are 2 or 3 major choke points one can chose between major hubs (looking at you niarja).

All it takes to gate camp is a ship, no scruples and a lot of time. An astonishing number of people like to gate camp. Its almost impossible to avoid them, even a cloaked ship can easily be jammed by proximity to the crud gate campers deliberately throw out for just that purpose.

It serves no purpose but to give talentless people with too much time on their hands easy kills.

I suggest the game should not be designed to penalize people for moving through gates. I point out that perhaps the reason so many people in this game huddle up in whatever star system they've managed to feel secure in (frequently high sec) is because there are so many gate camping people in this game.

I suggest the game be designed so that nothing can attack anything near a gate or it will be vaporized by collateral warp energy. Even in lowsec or nullsec. Anywhere in regular space. Chalk it up to physics.

Would increase the amount of positioning checking for bubble vs ship like 2 billion fold. Unlikely to happen.

id like to see bubbles in highsec :D

I can't say I am aware of anyone suggesting this in the past, but why not add in NPC gate usage?

Have it run the full range of activity, the NPC ships or convoy leaves a station, warps to a gate, jumps through to the other side, and attempts to continue to their destination.

As a convoy, it could even follow a schedule, or be random.

Players could try to use these as cover for their own actions, or try to ambush them.

Gate camps would see more activity, and could draw in a more mixed grouping of PvE & PvP interests.

I have noticed less gate camps in recent years. I've been here for 10 years, and it used to be that nearly every ls border system you'd find a GC, but recently I have been in and out of systems that in the pasy used to be heavily camped, now not so much

Believe a slightly veteran player that there are ways around gate camps and everything is working as intended.

It serves no purpose but to give talentless people with too much time on their hands easy kills.

All it takes to gate camp is a ship, no scruples and a lot of time. An astonishing number of people like to gate camp. Its almost impossible to avoid them, even a cloaked ship can easily be jammed by proximity to the crud gate campers deliberately throw out for just that purpose.

It serves no purpose but to give talentless people with too much time on their hands easy kills.

I suggest the game should not be designed to penalize people for moving through gates. I point out that perhaps the reason so many people in this game huddle up in whatever star system they've managed to feel secure in (frequently high sec) is because there are so many gate camping people in this game.

I suggest the game be designed so that nothing can attack anything near a gate or it will be vaporized by collateral warp energy. Even in lowsec or nullsec. Anywhere in regular space. Chalk it up to physics.

Well, not if gate campers get their wish ...

Warp disruptor bubble (got that)
Web bubble (suggested)

Scram bubble (coming?)

AoE damage bubble (you bet its coming)

... just look at the first page suggestions and people supporting it and you might faint for shock of other ppls ignorance -¦-¦

Make yourself heard. Not giving this thread vilidity but saying some things should be looked at that support the lazies on the oither side too.

The problem with making changes so lazy people don't have to think is that we'll end up with WOW. That game requires almost no thought and is entirely designed for the mentally lazy. Personally, I play EVE *because* it requires thought. Dumbing it down for the lazies is pretty much utterly against what a lot of players want for the game.

As Jen said, there are already plenty of ways around gate camps. I've lost a 500mill isk ship to a gate camp recently and you know what? It was my own damned fault and I learned something from it. Perhaps people should see it as a learning exercise rather than just seeing it as annoying and/or unfair.

.... As Jen said, there are already plenty of ways around gate camps. I've lost a 500mill isk ship to a gate camp recently and you know what? It was my own damned fault and I learned something from it. Perhaps people should see it as a learning exercise rather than just seeing it as annoying and/or unfair.

Here's a trick to surviving many gate camps. (Not all, but probably most)

Learn to Travel Fit! Or Scout!

I used to run a lot of escalations in low sec with a drake. Ran into a few gate camps along the way. But with a full rack of stabs and no scripted HICs. . I warped right out. Mobile depot has made this too easy.

Gate camping should be removed from the game ... as soon as anyone can figure out how to replace as one of the few pvp situations that happen more than every great once in a while and give low sec/null sec residents a way to hold enemies out of their territory.

High and low sec should have safe gate passage. There should be skills involved with ganking ships instead of only 'skills involved' with trying to avoid gate camps.