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Baneken
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Posted - 2014.08.20 10:09:00 -
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So to sum it up Somer tried to play CCP sales rep, got burned for it and closed the business while giving back some of those hard scammed ISK for his cows ?
Anything I missed when I skimmed the last 20 pages ? |
Baneken
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Posted - 2014.08.20 10:36:00 -
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Also should be noted that casino in any form is a scam to begin with, it's just the way that you have to run a casino to make any money out if.
Same goes for most things that are sold to us be it cars or movie tickets for the latest block busters, heck selling anything for a good profit is a scam once you spin it enough.
But all of the above have rules and those rules have to be followed or you get busted for doing so.
My initial stance which still stands to this issue (and gambling in general not just for EVE) however is that no betting or gambling should be allowed (in EVE or otherwise) but that's because my mother happens to be a gambling addict in RL and still visit her therapy group on regular basis. |
Baneken
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Posted - 2014.08.20 10:44:00 -
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Andski wrote:Baneken wrote:My initial stance which still stands to this issue (and gambling in general not just for EVE) however is that no betting or gambling should be allowed (in EVE or otherwise) but that's because my mother happens to be a gambling addict in RL and still visit her therapy group on regular basis. This is a ridiculous rule to even try to enforce. How is CCP going to stop two people from agreeing to give each other ISK if one team or another wins a football match? It's not even the point of this thread.
Yes, I know quite well it cannot be enforced, shouldn't stop me from wishing it was true, now doesn't it ? |
Baneken
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Posted - 2014.08.20 11:10:00 -
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Cryo Kool wrote:I'd say SOMER had a fairly good idea to try and circumvent the RMT rule. There really is no way to determine if they were actually doing it on CCP's end though. It is a 2 step process: 1) create demand for GTC's by offering highest isk for the PLEX redeemed from GTC's. 2) negotiate a kickback with a GTC seller and advertise that seller. The SOMER proposal clearly states they will buy the PLEX resulting from GTC sales with ANY affiliate but we can safely assume that the bulk of those sales will be from the linked GTC seller as it would take the least effort to locate. Everything on CCP's side of the table will look above board and they could never know different. SOMERS side of the table and the deals they negotiate with the GTC affiliate are where the info we need is located to determine if it was RMT and we will never see that.
Doesn't even need to be a third seller Somer could had put up a shop by him self for selling GTC's, advertising it as someone else's company and raked in the cash and none the wiser. |
Baneken
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Posted - 2014.08.20 12:13:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:I'm meeting again today within CCP, and will be in touch with the CSM again once we have further developments. Thanks for the patience guys  Oh god, more meetings... 
Why do you think I voted you guys in the first place ?  |
Baneken
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Posted - 2014.08.20 12:46:00 -
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It's a general fault in many gaming companies that their sales rep or top brass for that matter have very little understanding of the product they're actually selling.
This if of c. a smaller matter when dealing with in game promotional stuff for COD XI and not for an MMO game such as EvE. |
Baneken
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Posted - 2014.08.20 13:24:00 -
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Phantra wrote:I've got an opinion.
Well let's hear it then, don't be shy. :) |
Baneken
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Posted - 2014.08.20 13:35:00 -
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You gambled and you lost, now you just have to suck it up.
That Somer actually gave any money back was an apology of a sort or a way to just quit in style. |
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