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Rroff
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Posted - 2014.08.20 02:19:00 -
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Regardless of the wrongs or rights of Somer sad to see it torn down by what is essentially an orchestrated witch hunt by those with their own agenda rather than on the balance of evidence. |
Rroff
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Posted - 2014.08.20 02:31:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ralk Orin wrote:witch hunt Nope.
Given the lengths some have gone to to stir up anti-blink sentiment to say there has been no witch hunt at all is hardly accurate. |
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Posted - 2014.08.20 03:10:00 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:Let's be realistic, regardless of what the CCP verdict was on this case, SOMER was never going to be allowed to survive. The community demanded their pound of flesh, and that's what they got. Although some won't be happy until people have been burnt at the stake.
Sadly seems to be a fair amount of "can't manage to become a success so can't stand to see others become a success" behind a good bit of the attacking of somer, don't really know enough about what somer does behind the scenes as to whether they were in the wrong or not or brought it on themselves or not but have noticed the efforts some have gone to in an effort to bring somer down with poorly hidden agendas of their own. |
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Posted - 2014.08.20 03:24:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:
If you don't know enough about what SOMER did to have so many people upset then perhaps you should read through the thread and find out before accusing those in it of having nefarious agendas.
I understand the basics of it I just don't have enough (factual) information to know/care if what somer is doing is "legal", meanwhile some of the biggest sources of anti-somer sentiment are easier to break down the motives behind what they are doing which are more often that not regardless of whether somer should or shouldn't be operating (EDIT: or in regard to post above methods of operating) far from orientating in any real concerns as to whether what somer is doing is wrong or not. |
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Posted - 2014.08.20 03:30:00 -
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Andski wrote:
If you're trying to figure out the "motive" you'll only be sorely disappointed. EVE players don't like it when another player presumes to be above the rules. The outrage was entirely justified IMO.
Not trying to figure out the motives. |
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Posted - 2014.08.20 04:46:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:
There's enough that isn't behind the scenes to make what they did pretty clearly and unequivocally wrong under the EULA.
Maybe so tbh I've not even bothered my head about it, all I know (in full transparency) is that I've walked away up more than 20bn and somewhat disgusted that the toxicity (which is far more low and disgusting than anything somer may or may no have done) behind some of the more vocal efforts to bring somer down appears to be legitimised by all this even if somer is guilty and even if some of the concerns voiced about somer were purely altruistic. |
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Posted - 2014.08.20 12:19:00 -
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Rob Kashuken wrote:Question to CCP Falcon:
Given CCP's usual punitive actions when RMT accounts and their clients are discovered, will the clients of Somer that partook of this offer also face the usual actions for being a party to RMT transactions?
Given CCP's both tacit and actual approval of Somer I can't see it happening it would also mean a good number of players would never trust CCP again. But then as this thread and other related stuff has shown there are a few very vocal people who want their pound of flesh no matter the implications of the outcome (not really surprising being it is eve) so who knows what will happen. |
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Posted - 2014.08.20 13:40:00 -
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yo Outamon wrote:Not blaming anyone. just wanted to know the plan if any for the reinbersment of isk that was put in by many to gain tokens to win prizes that won't be dished out that all  Keep calm eat bacon.
ISK balance including any tickets purchased on the recent bonk has/will be refunded but doesn't look like there is any form of reimbursement for tokens which would be a bit hard to calculate against future potential winnings heh. |
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:28:00 -
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Tyrendian Biohazard wrote:
The other thing I wonder is (and I haven't seen) did Somer ONLY accept codes purchased from Markee Dragon, or would any PLEX code purchase suffice? Was a list of PLEX codes sold via Somer's referral link kept and only those codes could be redeemed on their site.
EDIT: Removed a speculative sentence.
You (in general) would have to have purchased GTC via Markee Dragon (or any other provider somer used but afaik they were only using MD as far back as the back dating goes) originally to get credit to use to exchange PLEX for ISK. It doesn't matter where the PLEX came from though as long as you had credit to enable the transaction. If you had say 20 credits from past GTC referrals you could have bought 20 PLEX on the market and exchanged them for 830M ISK each. |
Rroff
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:30:00 -
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Kw1jybo wrote:CCP Falcon,
For those of us who like to skim the forums at work, can you tl;dr this with exec updates to your first post in this thread. I go to my 1 hour meeting and come back and the thread is like 5 pages longer, and to be honest all I really care about are any updates you may have about this.
thanks.
You can keep clicking on the blue eve dev bar on the avatar to go to the next dev post without having to wade through everything inbetween. |
Rroff
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:42:00 -
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As I missed this earlier:
CCP Falcon wrote:Rroff wrote:Given the lengths some have gone to to stir up anti-blink sentiment to say there has been no witch hunt at all is hardly accurate. There's no witch hunt here on our part. If people stay within the game rules, then we have no problem. If they don't, they get into trouble.
Was not accusing CCP of a witch hunt - I am however aware that certain of the more vocal efforts to have Somer taken down are motivated by something far far from altruistic (even if Somer is in the wrong which in itself I don't have my head around to make a call on).
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