This. I don't care one way or the other about Somer Blink, and if they are found to be in breach of the EULA on something, anything, be it RMT or otherwise, then I stand firmly behind the appropriate measures of dealing with that breach. What I am not behind is a verdict without a 'trial'. People jumping on the "Grr Somer" bandwagon are not helping the process. Because if they are not found to be in breach of the EULA then the "Grr Somer" crowd, already emotionally invested in seeing Somer taken down, regardless of whether or not they've done anything wrong, are going to be disappointed.

That's where it gets clever - there is no "extra isk" for buying the Plex. The "extra isk" appears when you sell that Plex back to them. The order it is all mentioned is there to imply the "no extra isk" carries throughout the entirety of the transaction, when the wording specifically limits it to only the first part, leaving them free to crap all over the spirit of the words in the second part, and allowing them to feign ignorance and claim never to have misled anyone, since their use of "best possible price" later for the by-back signifies that of course you would get the "best possible", which by definition is "more than anyone else anywhere" (ie: the market) will give you.

It is highly heavy on the technicality, and therefore slimy as all hell wording.

Frankly, you have no idea what you're talking about. You also have no idea how deep we have to dig to investigate this, given the sheer number of transactions that this service generates.

If you'd like to rumor mill as usual, do it elsewhere, or be prepared to lose your ability to post on this forum.

It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths.

Hey, look at the quote of mine that he embedded and then threatened me with a banhammer for. Not one shred of a rumour, but that is what the threat is for. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

Unless CCP stops ALL referral money, a business transaction, then this situation is unavoidable. SOMER does not directly exchange ISK -> $$$. What happens is he's incentivizing purchasing of PLEX through his referral program by paying more ISK for the PLEX than market price in Jita. This way he's losing ISK, and supposedly gaining *some* additional revenue. How much additional revenue? That's up to debate.

You're doing fine in here already, Andski. No need to fall back on willfully misinterpreting posts for forum fame.

However I would like to point out that it was made very clear roughly a year ago when this same very thing was ruled to stop.

To me it seems a lot like what I did when I was a kid and my mother said no to something. I asked my dad (or vice versa) in the hopes that they hadn't talked about it.

He said, click the link and buy the PLEX from CCP (or some third party) and I'll give you some ISK for clicking my link. No rocks, or trit involved or some other useless intermediaries involved. No one pays him $$$ except the referral program.

As I said, either cancel ALL referrals (which obviously includes Amazon), or don't. And if you don't, then what SOMER does should not be against rules.

FTFY

Goons, goons, goons, goons.....anyone else see a trend?

lel rip in peace somerblink 20?? - 2014

This thread should be closed as the problem is resolved.

But for now everyone should pay they rip in peace respects to blink.

kinda. where do I go to raffle [gamble]? (is the question on my mind, and I'm not being facetious.. the list of places I can think of is short. maybe you know of some.)

Horrible decision

This is total BS. We lose one of the oldest, best, Eve Gambling sites, and a HUGE contributor to both Player and CCP Events PR machine to increase their own sales. All because CCP can't get their own act together they tried to break the very clear rule against RMT on multiple occasions, even going so far as to lie to CCP execs about what they were doing.

CCP is going to lose a lot of PLEX sales and possibly subscriptions as a result of BLINK closing

I just burned a PLEX to come back here and say:

This

So what Blink was doing was wrong, But Eve Time Code can give you a Free PLEX for every $250 spent..

"New Promo - Your business counts! Starting May 9th 2014, After every $250 spent you will recieve 1 free PLEX"

How is that any better than what Blink was doing?

The free PLEX is isk.

Now, in the way this has gone down and how typical things work in relation to how the laws work -

Are you now going to ban every single player who has used somer blink for aiding and abetting?

And shut down all of the other external gambling sites as well because in some way/some how they are all RMT'ing.

for helping perpetuate this RMT scheme.

Anyone that doesn't see PLEX as ISK needs their head examined.

Until such time as PLEX can't be sold at Jita, it's just a bulk amount of ISK.

And so concludes the longest running, most profitable, most meta, most ****-in-your-face scam in EVE history. No other scam will ever come close.

I do not really understand that epic hissy.

Is "stakeholders" CCP jargon for "relevant people in CCP" or something?