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Ka' Zutao Hashur
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:38:00 -
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I have an interest in doing exploration stuff but I keep reading its best to do that type of stuff when you have a Covert Ops ship? Is it possible to do in a Frigate? or is it just better to run missions until your skills catch up and allow you to fly a better ship? |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:08:00 -
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Depends on your play style, try them both. Missions are consistent but low income, exploring has potential for a nice payout but you may go hours or days without getting anything, especially if you only explore in hi-sec. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Sulliva Slake
EVE University Ivy League
22
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:32:00 -
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If you like low sec you can go around looking for Clone soldiers/Mordus rats in a Algos. If you find a mordus bigger then a frig you will need to reship into something bigger but the payout can be very good, even if its just clone tags.
But yea it really depends on your playstyle. If you like constant, reliable, safe payouts, go with missions.
If you like to play more dangerous, you can try combat sites in low/nullsec. A lot of times you get nothing but bounties and overseer effects, other times you come out big with pirate BPCs and deadspace and fraction modules.. All in 1 site.
As for the data/relic, they are a bit more constant, but can still have their ups and downs.
As for best profits.. its hard to say.. It depends on how much space you explore. Obv the more space you farm, the more you will yield.
The main difference is its a different style of play. It can sometimes pay off big, other times you can go a week without anything but crapsites |
SFM Hobb3s
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.08.19 18:35:00 -
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For any nullsec combat exploration, you'll need to keep in mind that likely the bulk of your income is going to be Overseer effects. Getting faction drops and shiny ded loot is not so common anymore. Consider the 1 in average 20 sites you run that happen to drop some nice faction loot to be just a bonus.
Also settings expectations this way means you won't be one of those peeps who posts on the forum asking if the drops got nerfed, and getting subjected to the usual 'random is random' responses. |
Mooh Bear
Gurista Testing Group LLC
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Posted - 2014.08.19 18:50:00 -
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Missions can provide a nice steady income, once you can do L4 efficiently for a corp with a good LP store. Before that, it's meh. I've started doing null-sec exploration recently, just data/relic sites in a covops. Can't say I've been impressed by the isks, but it's certainly a change of pace. I believe it would be doable in a T1 frig with the MWD/cloak trick to travel, but you still need the astrometrics/hacking/archeology skills at a decent level to get anything done. Haven't tried combat sites so far, don't have the SP for a T3. Keep in mind that anything done in low/null-sec or WH space is going to have a lot of downtime, depending on other players activities. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1177
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Posted - 2014.08.19 18:56:00 -
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If you're paying with PLEX missions. If you are paying cash then whatever you like more. I do both, both are fun.
Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities.-á |
Ka' Zutao Hashur
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.19 19:00:00 -
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I am paying with Cash, I don't have the income atm to pay with Plex and even if I did i'd be more interested Selling the Plex on the market than actually using it!!
Well thanks for all the feedback, I am kind of interested in PVP functions as I have done that in the past in MMO's i've played and I really enjoy that, I don't want to get stuck into like Mining and industry as that seems like it could get very boring, i'm more of an adrenaline junky. |
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
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Posted - 2014.08.19 19:04:00 -
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Ka' Zutao Hashur wrote:I have an interest in doing exploration stuff but I keep reading its best to do that type of stuff when you have a Covert Ops ship? Is it possible to do in a Frigate? or is it just better to run missions until your skills catch up and allow you to fly a better ship?
If you're just starting with it, use the T1-exploration frigates until you know enough. Go into LowSec to learn how to deal with sudden visitors in sites, then upgrade either to an Astero (expensive, less skill-intensive) or a cov-op frigate.
Later on you can try out T3-cruisers or a Stratios. Hell, if you're someday have all your exploration-skills on max, you could even try out recon-cruisers if you want. (T3 or Stratios are just the best, not the only options)
And as long as you only want to run Relic/Data-sites in K-Space, Astero is the best choice if you want to shush away other player's cov-ops from your sites. Or cov-ops if running away is more fun to you.
You may have noticed I'm kind of biased here.
But really, missions are steady money but kind of boring until more burner-missions become available and exploration can bring you money (but not guaranteed), but always brings you to new places and players.
The decision is yours. |
Sir Livingston
Club Deadspace
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Posted - 2014.08.19 20:00:00 -
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you can run data sites in high-sec and earn decent isk. it doesn't require much skill training either EVE Online. Is there a game more worthwhile to play? Nope. http://www.youtube.com/JonnyPew |
Ka' Zutao Hashur
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.19 20:17:00 -
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Thanks I really appreciate the direction from you all!!!! I think I might just set up a T1 Frigate and just start exploring higher sec sites for the time being. |
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Sulliva Slake
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.08.19 21:24:00 -
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Ka' Zutao Hashur wrote:Thanks I really appreciate the direction from you all!!!! I think I might just set up a T1 Frigate and just start exploring higher sec sites for the time being.
Yes do this. once you get used to the hacking, go to low/nullsec. its MUCH better income then hisec sites. (even when you do loose it, its less then a 10 mil loss. Just dont carry too much loot at once :p)
also IMO the imicus is the best t1 explorer. you can have 3 warp core stabs, plus everything you need for the sites themselves, including a cargoscanner to pick the best ones to hack. however the best defnse is not getting pointed in the first place :p
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Feanor Feuergeist
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.19 21:32:00 -
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Hello fellow capsulers. As a fairly new player myself i can only give you a clear answer : exploration! I remember the feeling when i returned for the first time with my imicus and 200m loot after 10 of 00 in that poor paper thin but trusty frigate , wich is far superior to lvl1 and 2 mission running. And its far more fun :D
if you like it get your skills up to 4 and get blackops frigate and the black ops cloaky for better isk/h and less crapping pants. Its still my main source of income.
Also i can only advise anyone if new or vet to have a look at Sir Livingstons Youtube stuff. Its extremely helpful and always opens up new things to do.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1124
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Posted - 2014.08.19 23:24:00 -
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Do hisec sites while training a covops frigate and you may as well train interceptors while you are at it.
Note that Racial Frigate V is one of the most useful (whilst also most neglected )early skills. It gives you access to Bombers, Covops, Interceptors, Assault Frigates and Ewar frigates. |
Ka' Zutao Hashur
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2014.08.20 04:03:00 -
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any advice on a good fit for an Imicus? |
Andrew Indy
Four Pillar Production Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2014.08.20 06:11:00 -
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Ka' Zutao Hashur wrote:any advice on a good fit for an Imicus?
High - Cloak Mids - Data and Relic Analyzer, 1mn MWD, Cargo scanner Lows - 2 warp care stabs , nano fiber Rigs - Either GRavity Caps or Memetic/Emission (you can only fit 2 of either)
In low/Null people will generally not attack unless they have enough points to catch you (2 scram) so fitting 3 warp cores is of little value , it just nerfs the range/speed at which you can cargo scan the cans. They are most valuable in getting past gate camps where 2 is enough for the most part and the extra speed /agility of the Nano fiber often helps more (burning out of a bubble, warping away before you get healed ect) |
Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
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Posted - 2014.08.20 06:24:00 -
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Andrew Indy wrote:Ka' Zutao Hashur wrote:any advice on a good fit for an Imicus? High - Cloak Mids - Data and Relic Analyzer, 1mn MWD, Cargo scanner Lows - 2 warp care stabs , nano fiber Rigs - Either GRavity Caps or Memetic/Emission (you can only fit 2 of either) In low/Null people will generally not attack unless they have enough points to catch you (2 scram) so fitting 3 warp cores is of little value , it just nerfs the range/speed at which you can cargo scan the cans. They are most valuable in getting past gate camps where 2 is enough for the most part and the extra speed /agility of the Nano fiber often helps more (burning out of a bubble, warping away before you get healed ect)
And Probe Launcher |
Ka' Zutao Hashur
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2014.08.20 13:51:00 -
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Mr Mac wrote:Andrew Indy wrote:Ka' Zutao Hashur wrote:any advice on a good fit for an Imicus? High - Cloak Mids - Data and Relic Analyzer, 1mn MWD, Cargo scanner Lows - 2 warp care stabs , nano fiber Rigs - Either GRavity Caps or Memetic/Emission (you can only fit 2 of either) In low/Null people will generally not attack unless they have enough points to catch you (2 scram) so fitting 3 warp cores is of little value , it just nerfs the range/speed at which you can cargo scan the cans. They are most valuable in getting past gate camps where 2 is enough for the most part and the extra speed /agility of the Nano fiber often helps more (burning out of a bubble, warping away before you get healed ect) And Probe Launcher
I assume he was thinking (hoping) I was smart enough to assume that the probe launcher needed to be there :D |
Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:41:00 -
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Plan to do both.
Doing only one thing in Eve can lead to burnout, whereas being able to do a variety of things keeps it interesting. Like after scanning 60 systems over two days and finding squat. |
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
40
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Posted - 2014.08.21 07:57:00 -
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No matter what you choose, ensure you aren't in violation of subsection 4C of The Law. Together we can make Highsec a better place! The Law of Highsec Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, live it! |
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
242
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Posted - 2014.08.21 11:38:00 -
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Rabe Raptor wrote:No matter what you choose, ensure you aren't in violation of subsection 4C of The Law.
4C. Illegal PVE Combat- PVE combat is defined as engaging mission rats, incursion rats, or belt rats.
Interesting. Well, OP you're in luck. This subsection only defines what PVE-combat is, but not what illegal PVE combat is. This would never hold up in the court of law in Yulai.
So my suggestion is, do what you want. As long as it isn't illegal, of course. |
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Ka' Zutao Hashur
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2014.08.21 14:40:00 -
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Rabe Raptor wrote:No matter what you choose, ensure you aren't in violation of subsection 4C of The Law.
so avoid any "illegal" activities is all I have to worry about... sounds good :D |
afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
280
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Posted - 2014.08.21 16:07:00 -
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Ka' Zutao Hashur wrote:Rabe Raptor wrote:No matter what you choose, ensure you aren't in violation of subsection 4C of The Law. so avoid any "illegal" activities is all I have to worry about... sounds good :D
You don't need to worry about anything.
You can pretty much ignore the self appointed high sec "police". All mouth and no trousers |
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
243
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Posted - 2014.08.21 17:50:00 -
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afkalt wrote:Ka' Zutao Hashur wrote:Rabe Raptor wrote:No matter what you choose, ensure you aren't in violation of subsection 4C of The Law. so avoid any "illegal" activities is all I have to worry about... sounds good :D You don't need to worry about anything. You can pretty much ignore the self appointed high sec "police". All mouth and no trousers
Hell, especially explorers, since we aren't in HighSec most of the time. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1131
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Posted - 2014.08.21 23:58:00 -
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Unless you really really want to operate in the couple of CODE infested systems between Dodixie and Hek ignore CODE.
As far as losec, WH space or null goes I have yet to see a single CODE gatecamp or any other CODE presence in low, null or any WH I have scouted. I am sure they DO occasionally pop up in low or null but the chances of bumping into them outside hisec is is close enough to nil. |
afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
280
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Posted - 2014.08.22 10:17:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:As far as losec, WH space or null goes I have yet to see a single CODE gatecamp or any other CODE presence in low, null or any WH I have scouted. I am sure they DO occasionally pop up in low or null but the chances of bumping into them outside hisec is is close enough to nil.
Seems unlikely, people there have guns. |
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
243
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Posted - 2014.08.22 10:27:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Unless you really really want to operate in the couple of CODE infested systems between Dodixie and Hek ignore CODE.
As far as losec, WH space or null goes I have yet to see a single CODE gatecamp or any other CODE presence in low, null or any WH I have scouted. I am sure they DO occasionally pop up in low or null but the chances of bumping into them outside hisec is is close enough to nil.
On a note completely unrelated to CODE, I did run into a large Russian gate camp once on my way to Stain, so if you spend time in Null, don't try to cross a war zone if you're too tired to read DOTLAN correctly. |
Ka' Zutao Hashur
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2014.08.22 13:41:00 -
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Owen Levanth wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Unless you really really want to operate in the couple of CODE infested systems between Dodixie and Hek ignore CODE.
As far as losec, WH space or null goes I have yet to see a single CODE gatecamp or any other CODE presence in low, null or any WH I have scouted. I am sure they DO occasionally pop up in low or null but the chances of bumping into them outside hisec is is close enough to nil. On a note completely unrelated to CODE, I did run into a large Russian gate camp once on my way to Stain, so if you spend time in Null, don't try to cross a war zone if you're too tired to read DOTLAN correctly.
Low/Null sec appeal to me more than Hi-sec to be honest. |
Stone-Cold Gunther Sabre
Apollo Technologies Inc
3
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Posted - 2014.08.26 13:50:00 -
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Ka' Zutao Hashur wrote:I have an interest in doing exploration stuff but I keep reading its best to do that type of stuff when you have a Covert Ops ship? Is it possible to do in a Frigate? or is it just better to run missions until your skills catch up and allow you to fly a better ship?
You can definitely do exploration in a T1 frigate. I started in low sec with an Imicus (choose favourite faction exploration frig), no cloak needed, and had no major problems with other players (choose a quiet area). You definitely need need need to learn to use d-scan, set safe spots, set up your overview and understand what other players are up to around you, though. Not having a cloak is an excellent way of learning the above player skills and you'll learn how to read what is going on in system (a skill useful for every aspect of Eve) far better than high sec missioning, even if you can make more ISK in missions.
In fact, since using a covops frigate it is easy to become complacent which is always bad! |
Sinnish Saken
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
16
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:49:00 -
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Invest in an Astero, newbro's version of a covops frig. Basically has T2 bonuses and you can bully other explorers out of sites and get some kills/loot. Once you get a taste of that nullsec look you'll see the investment was worth it. |
Ka' Zutao Hashur
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
3
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Posted - 2014.08.29 16:39:00 -
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Sinnish Saken wrote:Invest in an Astero, newbro's version of a covops frig. Basically has T2 bonuses and you can bully other explorers out of sites and get some kills/loot. Once you get a taste of that nullsec look you'll see the investment was worth it.
I will look into that! I just got destroyed by another explorer in WH space when I was in my Imicus.. so anything more beefy that will give me a fair go against others is worth a look1 |
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