Have at it...and enjoy!


BTW..this is an eve related discussion.

AAA is S&^$.

AAA is S&^$.

If I am going to get my balls blown off for a word, my word is poontang.

An for some reason H I T L E R is blocked by the sensors? wtf is that?

"Code"

I don't perceive any right not to be offended. I'm sorry that my reminders of how to behave like a decent human being have offended you so.

You know who else didn't think one should be able to speak his or her mind? ******

And it's interesting how hatespeech is treated in that country now, don't you think?

Indeed it is "interesting." There's no freedom of speech there. I have to say, "meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Indeed it is "interesting." There's no freedom of speech there. I have to say, "meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Yep. Germany in 2014 is the same as 1940s Germany. Do you see where your analogies run into a wall, or did you want more examples?

Of course it's a bit of an exaggeration, but regarding the topic of free speech, the only difference is now you get a prison sentence rather than a bullet in the head.

Laws against free speech? Check.
Prison terms for political dissidents? Check. (see Ernst Zundel)

I could probably come up with more, but I think the point is made. In my heartfelt opinion, imprisoning people because of the words they say is tyrannical.

There used to be a saying here in America: "I abhor what you have to say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it." THAT is liberty, THAT is how decent, freedom-loving people think.

NOT "lets create some protected classes of people, and punish anyone who says anything that offends the special people."

That doesnt make YOU free if you're one of the protected classes, that just means the bully in the schoolyard happens to like you.

It's a Straw Man because I never claimed to be offended, yet by "injecting" that into our discussion, he now seeks to discredit me by implying via my "feeling offended" that I don't agree with "behaving like a decent human being."

In any event, I truly am sorry if my "reality adjustment" offended anyone. I'm even more sorry if yhou can actually BE offended by reality.

Of course it's a bit of an exaggeration, but regarding the topic of free speech, the only difference is now you get a prison sentence rather than a bullet in the head.

Laws against free speech? Check.
Prison terms for political dissidents? Check. (see Ernst Zundel)

I could probably come up with more, but I think the point is made. In my heartfelt opinion, imprisoning people because of the words they say is tyrannical.

There used to be a saying here in America: "I abhor what you have to say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it." THAT is liberty, THAT is how decent, freedom-loving people think.

NOT "lets create some protected classes of people, and punish anyone who says anything that offends the special people."

That doesnt make YOU free if you're one of the protected classes, that just means the bully in the schoolyard happens to like you.

You're advocating the use of slurs, so it would certainly appear that you don't.

In any event, I truly am sorry if my "reality adjustment" offended anyone. I'm even more sorry if yhou can actually BE offended by reality.

What you're maybe not getting is that people have had more of a dose of reality than you, and don't need to be constantly reminded of such things.

Support ticket created, you just crossed the line.

Nowhere in any of my posts did I "advocate the use of slurs," that's another straw man from you, and a personal attack. You have slandered me.


It's a pretty big error to assume that those who find words offensive need a "reality adjustment".

What you're maybe not getting is that people have had more of a dose of reality than you, and don't need to be constantly reminded of such things.

Nowhere in any of my posts did I "advocate the use of slurs," that's another straw man from you, and a personal attack. You have slandered me.

They need a reality adjustment if they think they have a right to silence those who offend then, even if tthose people ARE douchebags.

You don't know anything about me or what I have or haven't endured in my life.

Ssabat stop trying to turn this into a discussion on freedom of speech. It was never about that. Nobody is saying you're not free to walk about spouting ****** this and ****** that. We're just pointing out that your speech, like it or not, can have an emotionally deleterious effect on people.

Of course it's a bit of an exaggeration, but regarding the topic of free speech, the only difference is now you get a prison sentence rather than a bullet in the head.

Laws against free speech? Check.
Prison terms for political dissidents? Check. (see Ernst Zundel)

I could probably come up with more, but I think the point is made. In my heartfelt opinion, imprisoning people because of the words they say is tyrannical.

There used to be a saying here in America: "I abhor what you have to say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it." THAT is liberty, THAT is how decent, freedom-loving people think.

NOT "lets create some protected classes of people, and punish anyone who says anything that offends the special people."

That doesnt make YOU free if you're one of the protected classes, that just means the bully in the schoolyard happens to like you.

I'm seeing a lot more defense of their behavior from you than condemnation.

Nobody is trying to silence anyone.

Why is this your defense?

Oh. Thought I saw a post containing profanity somewhere and the poster saying they would only change it if the threads OP edited his post.

Oh. Thought I saw a post containing profanity somewhere and the poster saying they would only change it if the threads OP edited his post.

Remember the discussions we had when Fon Revedhort was running for CSM?
Yeah, fun times.

Profanity generally isn't used as a directed attack on someone's personhood.

I haven't defended his behavior, I have defended his right to be a douchebag, and decried anyone's perceived "right" to not be offended.

But it's ok to use out and out profanity and state that you wont remove it unless the person who offended you changes their post. I'm not seeing the difference.

It's not a defense, it's a statement of fact, correcting your stated assumption that "some people have endured more reality than I have. Stop with the logical fallacies.

What if profanity offends me?

What if profanity offends me?

So now youre trying to sneak in an implication that I'm a neo-**** as a personal attack because you have nothing but logical fallacies to spout. Incidentally, that one is called an ad hominem attack. Should I link the Handbook of Logical Fallacies for you?

You win, right!

What if profanity offends me?

On the subject of free speech...

You can say whatever you want to say. That's your right. It is also the right of those that hear what you say to criticise your speech, because they have free speech as well. So if you say something dickish, then you can bet your bottom dollar that someone is going to criticise you for it, because they have a right to. (The one that I'll respond to personally is when people call other people "autistic" because they do something bad - all it does is perpetuate negative connotations about autism and it makes you a complete **** if you do it).

If you want to cry "BUT FREE SPEECH!!" after someone has criticised what you've said, just remember, you've already said it. You've had your ******* free speech, and now it's someone else's turn to have theirs as well. If you support free speech, then you won't be a **** and try to deny the free speech of those that would criticise what you choose to do with it.

Freedom, in a society where we all depend on one another whether we realise it or not, comes with responsibility, especially social responsibility.

So now youre trying to sneak in an implication that I'm a neo-**** as a personal attack because you have nothing but logical fallacies to spout. Incidentally, that one is called an ad hominem attack. Should I link the Handbook of Logical Fallacies for you?

You win, right!

In a society of free speech, you do not have the right to not be offended, by virtue of such a right restricting free speech.

EXACTLY

EXACTLY

On the other hand, no single individual's "personhood" should be so wrapped up in one single characteristic that their life falls apart hearing anything against it.

Everyone can swear. Unless there's children around, no one should care. If any adult is genuinely so fragile that they can't shrug off an unkind word, then they sincerely belong in a mental institution.

I'm glad we have you as arbiter on how adults should respond to words.

I'm glad we have you as arbiter on how adults should respond to words.

I'm not alleging that you're a Fon Revedhort. I'm suggesting that this discussion reminds me of the discussions surrounding his views and speech.

Everyone can swear. Unless there's children around, no one should care. If any adult is genuinely so fragile that they can't shrug off an unkind word, then they sincerely belong in a mental institution.

You've been really bitter and angsty lately. Maybe you need some bacon sandwiches too.

Stuff

Just yesterday I was craving a BLT because of that Somer shill character.

Let me be absolutely clear then.
I like freedom of speech. I support freedom of speech. I agree that includes the right to use slurs and profanities.
All I'm arguing is that you shouldn't use slurs, not that you shouldn't be allowed to use them.

I sincerely hope you aren't anything close to a mental health professional. Because you have no idea what you're talking about.

You do realize that saying "logical fallacy" on the internet is just about the douchiest, e-hippster thing you can do...right? All you're missing are a few sprinklings of "false flag" and "oligarcy", and you'll have achieved full on derp status.

Are you still not over that? Well, this explains a lot. You need to learn to let go, release the past and focus on the present. Only then will you be a real Jedi.

TL;DR - get over it, and yourself.

And lose the tinfoil. I know you're talking about me, but I never defended SOMER. I was merely pointing out how stupid and childish the witch hunt was.

But are they...... wait for it........."gay"?

surprised no one has mentioned:

code

gets some people riled.

Surprised this hasn't been locked with a post constructively comment.

I'm guessing this is the 'outlet' thread.

Yeah, I'm cool with that.


EDIT: Sorry OP for hijacking your thread. Maybe I take this pirate stuff too seriously

Mate