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Serkis
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 23:45:00 -
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Edited by: Serkis on 21/07/2006 23:49:59 What if there were no pirates, no pvp, no scammers and no orethiefs?
- Concord wouldn¦t be needed.
- Everyone would have billions of isk in their wallets.
- Everyone would just be doing missions and holding hands.
- Market for named items would crash because of all the npc loot and almost no ship losses.
- Everyone would be in faction BS¦s.
- Everyone would have full set of +5 implants in one clone, full crystal set in another clone, snake set in third...etc
- Every 0.0 system would have outpost in it.
- Eventually all alliances would merge into one super alliance and everyone in eve would be members of that alliance which would be called Veldspar Alliance.
- Everyone would get bored too death and quit.
So what statement is more true:
1. Carebearing is bad for EvE! 2. Pirating is good for EvE!
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xeom
Obsidian Sins
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Posted - 2006.07.21 23:48:00 -
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/signed
CCP where are our t2 shield power relays? | Join[..SIN] |

Kerushi
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 23:48:00 -
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carebear builds stuffÖ other carebear loses stuffÖ to pirate pirate get ganked by alliance and loses carebear stuffÖ alliance fights alliance and alot of stuffÖ is lost carebear builds new stuffÖ and repeats the cycle
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wierchas noobhunter
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 23:48:00 -
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man carebears 4tw they taste good
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Kerushi
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 23:52:00 -
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btw, carebearing isn`t bad, if it wasn`t for us, u`d have no minerals, 0.0000000438% of current day market and no carebears mining rares for corps/alliances to sell in empire as there is no one to mine or sell to
eve is balanced with it, 1 depends on the other, no matter how much each side hates even thinking about it 
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HunTarr
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.21 23:55:00 -
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frying carebears is a good way... i use to cut em up in small pieces and bbq them, though
want salt with that carebear?
--------------Sig------------------------- /me is currently a big EVE Fan. /me has 3 Alts. /me is looking for nice friends. /me just abandoned his computer for a beer....
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Spartanicus
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:00:00 -
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Are they good dipped in Ranch?
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Ras Blumin
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Serkis 2. Pirating is good for EvE!
That one.
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St Dragon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:11:00 -
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And the point of this topic is?  -----------------------------------------------
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand |

Scorpyn
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Serkis So what statement is more true:
1. Carebearing is bad for EvE! 2. Pirating is good for EvE!
Statement 1 is false, statement 2 is true.
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Brutus Julius
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn
Originally by: Serkis So what statement is more true:
1. Carebearing is bad for EvE! 2. Pirating is good for EvE!
Statement 1 is false, statement 2 is true.
good call
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Wendat Huron
Lupus Industries
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:20:00 -
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You add nothing to the equation, take yourself out.
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Shittake
RONA Deepspace Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:33:00 -
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Why must it be carebearing is bad and pirating is good? Are you unable to understand the fact that a variety of both destroying AND building is required in this game?
While I disagree with CCP some of the time, they realize that a variety of professions are required to appeal to the different playstyles in the game. The question is why don't you realize this?
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Serkis
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: St Dragon And the point of this topic is? 
I¦ve just seen alot of whining about pirates/scammers/empire gankers and how they are ruining EvE. People have posted silly suggestions about how to "improve" the game to make these professions almost impossible to operate.
This topic is meant to show people that pirating and damaging is the roots that make eve what it is. Fantastic game! Of course we need carebears as long as the roots are in place. 
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Tsual
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: Tsual on 22/07/2006 00:45:31
Originally by: Serkis
Originally by: St Dragon And the point of this topic is? 
I¦ve just seen alot of whining about pirates/scammers/empire gankers and how they are ruining EvE.
Do what a longterm ninja miner does, ignore them.
******************** Moral is only usefull so far as society demands it from one to accept his presence.
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Pride NL
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:57:00 -
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Its a vicious circle. PVP'rs needs bears, yet bears need PVP'rs.
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Eloc Peptabysmal
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.22 01:05:00 -
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I congratulate the OP on making the best textbook example of a strawman yet known to mankind. Fo'****zo.
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Stephar
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.22 01:50:00 -
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Loot = grass Carebears = herbivores Pirates = carnivores
Carebears eat grass, pirates eat carebears. If all the carebears get eaten, the pirates will have nothing to eat... unless they become carebears themselves and start eating grass.
Moo.
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.07.22 02:01:00 -
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Poverty  |

Hydrian Alante
Galactic Fighter Syndicate Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.07.22 02:54:00 -
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You don¦t need carebears to build stuff.
You don¦t need carebears to do some mining.
So let¦s bbq them.     
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Jarnisso
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.22 03:40:00 -
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Edited by: Jarnisso on 22/07/2006 03:41:59
vs 
Sigh...
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.22 03:48:00 -
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Carebears feed pirates, pirates give KD something to chase.
Therefore, carebears are good. ------------------ Originally by: kieron Buy ISK for RL cash here!
Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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Tamira Delores
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Posted - 2006.07.22 13:29:00 -
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this sounds just like the classic old stupid argument.. what came first.. the egg or the hen...
both arguments are stupid... being a pirate or a carebear is stupid.. just play the game... and quit whining...
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Plutoinum
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.22 13:54:00 -
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If EVE had been like that from the beginning, I would have left long time ago after getting bored. I wouldn't be complaining, because it would be on my 'just another boring game that I've tried list' 
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.22 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 22/07/2006 14:02:33
Forever day, forever night? Yucks. Life is balanced. We have predators and we have preys. Nothing to see here, move along.  ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
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Miss Anthropy
Fluffy Carebears
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Posted - 2006.07.22 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Serkis Edited by: Serkis on 21/07/2006 23:49:59 What if there were no pirates, no pvp, no scammers and no orethiefs?
- Concord wouldn¦t be needed.
- Everyone would have billions of isk in their wallets.
- Everyone would just be doing missions and holding hands.
- Everyone would be in faction BS¦s.
- Everyone would have full set of +5 implants in one clone, full crystal set in another clone, snake set in third...etc
- Every 0.0 system would have outpost in it.
- Eventually all alliances would merge into one super alliance and everyone in eve would be members of that alliance which would be called Veldspar Alliance.
You've just described EVE Utopia!!!
To prove it, I deleted the two negative comments from your text, and left the 7 positive comments. Interesting eh? ----------------------------------------------- "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." ùGeorge W. Bush, Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000 |

Lord Frost
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.22 14:34:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Frost on 22/07/2006 14:34:25 On the contrary my friend...there is a fine line between the term "pirate" and what it really refers to. I believe pirates are good for Eve, however, if your daily ritual consists of ganking, griefing, and sniping... then you are no pirate my friend... perhaps a lame one at best. Carebears... or what I rather call, "genuine good people in the community"... are the fabric of Eve... so rant all you rant about pirates, but until a pirate is actually a "pirate", you need to stfu. Look at it this way... Eve could go on without pirates... Eve could NOT continue without your "carebears".
Topic done. End of story.
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Trebor Locke
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.22 14:37:00 -
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I'm sorry. You do like getting your ships dirt cheap right? Or how about your alliance? I'm sure there is an industrial corp in there because without one you wont have ships, supplies, or very much to maintain a POS or anything else much larger than a BS.
With out us miners, traders, producers, you would still be in your pod my good friend 
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Aodha Khan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.22 15:28:00 -
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Carebears and pirates are good for Eve. What's not good for Eve is the snipers on both sides of the argument saying one or the other isn't good for Eve.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
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Serkis
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.22 15:43:00 -
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lol, i cant belive some of the replies and and assumptions im getting to a post that is 95% joke and 5% "virtual" reality check. I just want to make one thing clear, I am not a pirate like some of you seem to assume, I¦m a hardcore carebear. I make weapons of mass destruction and ships. Without pirates, wars and mindless ganking I would probably be unemployed. 
So, please by all means stop being a carebear and start pirating, meanwhile I¦ll be counting isk¦s 
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