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south24
Rage of Angels
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.07.24 16:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Ryoka
hmm, though i agree that marr need a little boost atm they do have advantages now.
pro:
the best tank (crystal set is nice too, but imo slave > crystal )
the most cap
2nd best damage output
flexible when it comes to ranges
2nd best with drones
cons:
quite slow (mostly)
lack of mid slots for EW (so they are susceptible to EW on their own)
do you even fly amarr? seriously....
not the best tank, thats an eve myth, it's neglated by the weapon systems unless I use autocannons (which I refuse to)
most cap... again neglated by the weapons
2nd best damage output? Don't know where you got your figures from, especially considering the rise of EAM tanks.
flexibility with range??? ok amarr have ok mid range (mainly geddon) but who fights at mid range?
2nd best with drones? why because we have 1 t1 drone ship and 2 t2 (all based on the same hull)
quite slow yes.
you said we had 2nd best drones, imo because of 3 ships, well guess what they are our 3 best ew platforms also... figure this one out your self
Originally by: Murukan
They are amazing at whining, almost up there with caldari
this I agree with, but it's not exactly an unnessicary whine, when it takes a minny slave to suggest a solution for 1/2 our ships then you know something must be going wrong.
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Uranus Nemesis
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Posted - 2006.07.24 22:35:00 -
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Amarr battleships are good and the recon ships but thats about it just need alot of skills in gunnery just like every other kind of turret they got soooooo much powergrid which is good in some ways idk i like amarr. they pwn 
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Uranus Nemesis
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Posted - 2006.07.24 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: south24
Originally by: Ryoka
hmm, though i agree that marr need a little boost atm they do have advantages now.
pro:
the best tank (crystal set is nice too, but imo slave > crystal )
the most cap
2nd best damage output
flexible when it comes to ranges
2nd best with drones
cons:
quite slow (mostly)
lack of mid slots for EW (so they are susceptible to EW on their own)
do you even fly amarr? seriously....
not the best tank, thats an eve myth, it's neglated by the weapon systems unless I use autocannons (which I refuse to)
most cap... again neglated by the weapons
2nd best damage output? Don't know where you got your figures from, especially considering the rise of EAM tanks.
flexibility with range??? ok amarr have ok mid range (mainly geddon) but who fights at mid range?
2nd best with drones? why because we have 1 t1 drone ship and 2 t2 (all based on the same hull)
quite slow yes.
you said we had 2nd best drones, imo because of 3 ships, well guess what they are our 3 best ew platforms also... figure this one out your self
Originally by: Murukan
They are amazing at whining, almost up there with caldari
this I agree with, but it's not exactly an unnessicary whine, when it takes a minny slave to suggest a solution for 1/2 our ships then you know something must be going wrong.
got a point there but if you put pulses on a apoc you can have a quite nasty tank depending on your skills and which type of lasers they just have REALLY low cpu which should change even with good skills you seem to run out of cpu and they're still good at close range medium and long and really long , geddon is close , med (pulses hit nice at 9km even though its optimal is 15km depending on the crystal you use) and if your ina geddon you put 5 t2 heavy drones ........ thats just pure pwnage, they are really slow............ 
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Achura Female
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Posted - 2006.07.24 22:45:00 -
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A t2 geddon with tachs is the highest (over some time, like at least 40s I think) DPS 200km+ sniper. The pilgrim is an amazing force recon though we'll see what the announced changes to nos will do about that. The zealot is probably the second best HAC after the Vagabond.
But aside from those few, stuff is pretty bad for Amarr flying players. I mean god damn, isn't a 43-page thread talking about how they're underpowered proof enough there is a problem? Especially since that same 43-page thread hasn't received any dev response? Isn't the incredible sparsity of player population in Amarr space and overall lack of Amarr characters proof there is a problem? And if someone quotes this saying that needing no ammo is a huge boon I am going to ******* slap them in the face. There is a reason such a large portion of Amarr players end up training Gallente ships.
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Johnny Bravo
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Posted - 2006.07.25 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: Brother Tycho
Blasterthron will pwn a Apoc if the fight starts under 30 km
it will get under the tracking to fast and lasers bounce of armour tanks if the fights starts long range the Apoc pilots a fool not to warp off.
Not to mention the Megathrons huge drone bay so web drones will only buy you a few moments.
Is there any religios reason why you cant put and AB or MWD on Apoc? Mega dont even have any bonuses to MWD... and have same slot layout. And less cap. and 2 more drones. And half range. Where is the hype?
And even if your religy prohibit MWD on Apoc, you can still fit ECM or ECCM on that extra mid slot, making Mega life much harder...
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Aramendel
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Posted - 2006.07.25 09:23:00 -
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An afterburner will be useless vs a MWD mega, thats no option.
An MWD could be an option, exept that firing and using the MWD will cause problems. And the mega pilot would be a moron if you would not warp out if he cannot catch up.
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Ann Mari
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.25 10:34:00 -
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Edited by: Ann Mari on 25/07/2006 10:43:39
My advice... Stuff Amarr, go Caldari. I fly Amarr ships atm and I'm far from happy.
And don't think the "no ammo" thing is nice. What people don't tell you is that as soon as you get to your T2 lasers fitted with fantastic T2 crystals, the crystals explode. Yeh I know it sux. And to give you an idea, for small T2 crystals you can expect to pay upto 800k per crystal in low sec / 0.0. And a crystal only lasts a day or 2 then it goes pop.
So train Caldari, grab a hold full of missles and stash them at a station and wtfpwn everything, get rich, be happy.
Edit: To your original question:
Yes, Amarr are good armour tankers. You can tank stuff till they die of old age or use minmatar weapons to speed up the process slightly. You can also attempt to have your target laugh himself to death with a laser light show.
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"There can be no justice, if rules are absolute"
"The enemy of my enemy, is my friend"
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south24
Rage of Angels
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.07.25 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Uranus Nemesis
got a point there but if you put pulses on a apoc you can have a quite nasty tank depending on your skills and which type of lasers they just have REALLY low cpu...
yea but my tank will be twice as good if I use bloody autocannons 
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Heiken Wimast
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.25 12:37:00 -
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Well actually u can easly counter amarr ships with EAN II + DC + NOS ( even i dont want to mention EW ). There is an amarr thread around 43 pages, in that thread mostly people says only pilgrim/curse brothers worth to use. There is no best ship in amarr race except recons and totally all racial dmg type/ships looks like broken. Amarr isnt a good choice for pvp neither pve. I say gallente is a good option going for it, in gallente u can find good ships in every size nearly. Other options are caldari and minmatar, but dunno which 1 is meeting with your style.
Some of Amarr ships are very sexy and wasted with bad bonuses  ( 5% bonus to EM Missile damage per level | this bonus on malediction every time makes me sad )
- Amarr is hard to fit.
- Damage type broken
- Yes Amarr is using ammo, its named with "CAPACITOR" ingame.
- Im thinking Amarr is "OK" --> you are clueless EVEn you arent flying with Amarr ships or you arent playing EVE Online.
- Amarr is the only race that game mechanic forcing you to use another race weapons.
- For myself i like Amarr ships/designs, but they arent satisfy me ( pvp/pve wise )
- Khanid designs is another story
- Tier 3 BS will be an apocalpyse clone
- Im not remember who but some1 wrote that before in official forums "If devs wont fix amarr, in future we will have 20 dominixes in ganks" ( or put your favourite ships here )
- Gallente ship prices goibg up from now around Jita
- Im really sorry about who has million skill points that spec in Amarr, this thing makes me sad also. Some of these people should be disappointed.
- If you going for Amarr think twice before do that
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Lisento Slaven
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.25 13:13:00 -
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Amarr also have a ship that people refuse to fly based ONLY on how it looks: The Prophecy.
I refuse to fly the prophecy because it looks like the corpse of a rotting chicken. I do not fly dead chickens k? 
I know I'm not the only one.
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Put in space whales!
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Nykolas
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.25 13:27:00 -
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Hey i have 2 questions related to the post here
1- Someone mentionned they'll be NOS changes. Anyone have a link bout this ?
2- Many said the Arbi was a good cruiser. Can you send a good pvp fitting ? I just started to live in 0.0 and i have cruiser to V, but never tried one.
Thanks 
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Lenaria
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Posted - 2006.07.25 14:46:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Aramendel
Edited by: Aramendel on 25/07/2006 11:18:46
An afterburner will be useless vs a MWD mega, thats no option.
An MWD could be an option, exept that firing and using the MWD together will cause problems. And the mega pilot would be a moron if he would not warp out if he cannot catch up.
And Apoc pilot would be moron not to keep Megathron withing 20km to scramle him. Do you like the conversation this way?
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Aramendel
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:02:00 -
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Reading- comprehension. Read the post before mine. So it's a loose-loose situation?
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Imperial Coercion
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Posted - 2006.07.25 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Achura Female
A t2 geddon with tachs is the highest (over some time, like at least 40s I think) DPS 200km+ sniper.
Ahahaha. Raven+cruise missiles>tach geddon.
Yes, tried and tested.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 17:38:00 -
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Amarr ships arent too bad i used a Coercer at lower skills for the lvl 1 missions so i didnt have any cost in ammo as the laser crystals never need replacing. id imagine even a drone ship will loose a drone here and there and run out of spares.
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Aramendel
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Posted - 2006.07.25 17:39:00 -
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Well, if you have tacklers which keep your target there. Let's keep realistic please 
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