There is no viable weapon against the supercap in lowsec. Because of that CCP should make it so that they cannot travel into low sec.

There is no viable weapon against the supercap in lowsec. Because of that CCP should make it so that they cannot travel into low sec.

Lets see

winter expansion+HIC+NUTE SHIPS+decent logi+support+a good smothering of dreads = a dead super with only expendable losses

I may be hideously ignorant here...

But you can still use HIC's with the scripts right ? And they can hold down a supercap, no ? Also, any number of heavy neuts and a few smarties to kill the fighters are similarly free available at your local market hub.

So whats the problem ?

Point them, neut them, kill their drones, blow them up. All nice and neat.

There is no viable weapon against the supercap in lowsec. Because of that CCP should make it so that they cannot travel into low sec.

Do you know how difficult it is to get mercs to remove towers in low-sec?

Trouble is PL comes bounding in and doomsdays everyone.

Do you know how difficult it is to get mercs to remove towers in low-sec?

Trouble is PL comes bounding in and doomsdays everyone.

Quite inconvenient.

I am not saying PL is at fault, they are playing the game well, makes them a bit of a target for me tbh, shooting newbies gets dull.

I ask, why are supers in empire. It is illogical, and unbalanced.

The super should be buffed, not nerfed, bigger fuel tanks, greater jump ranges. GTFO.

I like that the counter is to zerg the **** out of them.

1v34 and we owned that clown.

They're about 15b isk, what do you expect

Guys I want to be able to camp a gate and gank industrials with no risk and complete impunity CCP why won't you let me do this ;______;

I liek, herd of these things called bait shipz. Apparently they comes and they pointz yous, and a bigger fleet kills u wen dey come.

Can I also just point out a perfect example: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14560125

First kill I see on your KB, you killed a stealth bomber with eight supercaps.

A while back you guys dropped four supercaps on four of our battlecruisers (and still didn't manage to kill anything, I might add.). Sorry but that's just a bit stupid, and if you guys want to pull it off regularly (which is pretty much all you do) it should at least be made vaguely challenging.

Trouble is PL comes bounding in and doomsdays everyone.

- Make their invulnerability dependent on sovereignty (they are supposedly alliance assets).
- Prohibit use of any and and all high-slot modules while in Empire sovereign space.

They can still move around and can still hotdrop, but they had better scout the pit-stops before pressing the button or face the reapers.
Bonus effect: They will be at an disadvantage when used to overwhelm to drive-by reinforce everything within two jumps radius that looked at them funny (ie. outside own sov).

An epic ship which cannot easily be killed, and plays a near vital role in large fleet battles, but cannot be used to lolsolo small fleets with complete immunity to scouts, ewar and everything short of a well prepared 35 person gang that appears out of nowhere.

Personally, since they still need to be useful in large fleet fights I don't think nerfing their DPS and EHP is the best solution.

I would however like to see a strategy introduced that made it possible to deal with the Cyno boats themselves, as at the moment it's pretty tactless using them. There's no way to spot them, jam them and killing them before anything comes through is rarely feasible.

And before some smart ass says it, staying aligned and way out of web/neut/point range for the entire fight isn't really feasible either.

so you basically want to kill a 15b ship with a 20 man pots and pans fleet

Also a hictor with infipoint can lock a super down solo, stop being such a terrible scrub and get out of the trashcan. You type a lot of words but all I hear are flapping lids.

Well, super carriers do have remote ecm burst, should fit neuts, ecm drones and then hics can't be remote repped while they are using their warp disrupt field generator.

So a super pilot with their head in the game should be able to get away from 2-3 hics in low sec fairly easily if they do not panic.

But, with a good fleet comp and good pilots you don't even need a hic with enough neuting and good bumping.

In my experience though, super carrier pilots are quick to the stupid button of logging off when things go wrong.

Having good pilots is another pipe dream, good luck having people that actually know how to bump and don't have some idiot that fucks it up because they are elite with 1,000 kills and can hit F1.

Wha-wha, gank-tards trying to prevent the inevitable downfall of cyno-ganks

Enjoy this crap while you still can and don't waste your time on forums.

how about nerfing drone regions so russians can't 6-box ratting carriers (unless you batphone NC. on top of them that is )