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Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.07.24 16:10:00 - [1] Edited by: Taurequis on 24/07/2006 16:10:16 Hi, I tried to grab a response from another post mentioning EVE Mobiles but it dropped off the front page before it got picked up. My Mobile contract is up and Orange keep bugging me to give me a new phone. I'm planning on playing my usual "i'm going to quit if you don't give me X new model for free" line. So my questions are... What is the release date (hopefully) on EVE Mobile What will be the spec requirements on Mobiles to run it? What current mobile models are able too run EVE Mobile (peeps at the E3 show may know)? Is there any plans to have Mobile Phone companies tie in their package options for EVE Gamers (ie set price cheap data rates to access EVE Mobile)? I don't get another free upgrade for another year so I'd rather get this sorted now. I WANT TO PLAY EVE AT WORK!!!! Best Regards, Taurequis
Nate D GR0M	Posted - 2006.07.24 16:18:00 - [2] My understanding was that eve mobile wasn't actually for a phone... but rather a PDA. -Nate D - My Resume is bait for CCP. Invest in EVE's first HYIPS!
lofty29 Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.24 16:27:00 - [3] Ask chribba, he got the entier eve client running on his mobile --------------------------- Originally by: HippoKing ...I suck at forums
Delta2003	Posted - 2006.07.24 16:30:00 - [4] You could go for the SPV M5000 like i have, currently the best phone/pda combo out. And the specs beat all pda's i know of. So the 520mhz cpu should handle anythign u could throw at it and 640 x 480 screen res is very pretty, making browing the net a pleasure to surf , and eve mobile should definately work on it. now for the downside, its a lil on the heavy side as a phone :( but with wireless even built in u could sit at work and not even have to use gprs , but connect to the wireless lan of ur company etc, i know ebil, but what can i say btw CCP WEN THE F**K IS THE MOBILE VERION COMING OUT GODDAMMIT
Anders Kraneled Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.24 16:33:00 - [5] Wa-wa-WAIT A SECOND! Is there a mobile version planned? Will this mean I can use my PDA for more than RSS feeds and ebooks? Tell me more!
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.07.24 16:34:00 - [6] Hmm.. Not really wanting to get a PDA. Kinda want/need a phone & camera thingy with the option to play EVE. But keep you answers coming. There is plenty of good info that peeps want to know coming out. Thanks, Taurequis
Ressagar	Posted - 2006.07.24 16:42:00 - [7] Quote: EVE on Mobiles - How to get sacked from work... ah.. what a misleading title. here i thought it was about controllable mobile suits in Eve
Delta2003	Posted - 2006.07.24 16:49:00 - [8] Originally by: Taurequis Hmm.. Not really wanting to get a PDA. Kinda want/need a phone & camera thingy with the option to play EVE. Taurequis Well the spv has phone capability too, and has built in camera too, so i'd say its a eve device first phone second camera 3rd
Durham Elysion Quantum Logistics Incorporated Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.07.24 17:20:00 - [9] I have a Qtek S200 which can run almost any Windows Mobile 5 based programs, including MSN messenger, IRC clients, ssh, ftp, Tomtom navigator, can watch full-length movies, listen to mp3s, email, and... Make a phonecall :)
Kylania Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.24 18:01:00 - [10] There is not a full EVE client coming for mobile phones, but instead an "EVE Lite" client for Windows Mobile 5 Devices. Here's the latest details from Oveur's E3 Dev Blog. (Emphasis mine.) Originally by: Oveur EVE Classic, EVE Vista, EVE Mobile? Yes, that's right. A client strategy is being molded, where we will be able to have different interfaces to the universe of EVE. "EVE Mobile" is probably a misnomer for the client shown at E3. "EVE Lite" would perhaps be more appropriate, since the E3 client is only a PDA client, for Windows Mobile 5 and has nothing to do with mobile phones. EVE Lite is our way of providing a simplified client with a core set of functionality which does not necessarily require a 3D interface to use. Think EVE mail, Chat, Market, Assets, upcoming Contracts, Corporation Management and so forth. You'll be able to do a lot of things without having to have a laptop. The reason we started with Windows Mobile 5 as a platform is because it was very similar to what we do inhouse, it's quite easy to work with and Microsoft helps us out a lot. However, the server-side groundwork opens up possibilities for other clients to be written. Which ones? I don't know. Personally, I'd like to be able to check my contracts and train a skill on my Xbox 360 between playing Oblivion and PGR. Or on my smartphone. My PSP? DS? At work on my EVE Lite PC client? ("Uhm, this is the newest MSN messenger ... it has a market ... and stuff ..."). Let your imagination go wild. I know mine is. I'm thinking voice chat with my Directors in-game via my EVE PC Lite. :) -- Lil Miner Newbie Skills Roadmap \| Visual Building Guide (Both work in game too!)
Tachy	Posted - 2006.07.24 18:37:00 - [11] You need a WinMob 5 thingy. You have to wait. It is meant maybe for accessing the chat and market and maybe your skills ... If you're lucky you can activate clone-jumping. --==*-- Even with nougat, you can have a perfect moment.
Nate D GR0M	Posted - 2006.07.24 19:56:00 - [12] The Ultimate Mobile EVE gameplay experience <3 EVE-SEARCH -Nate D --- CCP! HIRE ME!
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.07.25 10:21:00 - [13] So... I've been fishing about on the microsoft site for mobiles that run windows mobile 5.0. I've found two types - Smartphones Pocket PC Phones Most seem to run Windows Mobile 5.0 some seem to run Windows Mobile 2003 second edition. Is the 2003 second edition the newer software? Best Regards, Taurequis
Avon Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.25 10:22:00 - [14] Originally by: Taurequis So... I've been fishing about on the microsoft site for mobiles that run windows mobile 5.0. I've found two types - Smartphones Pocket PC Phones Most seem to run Windows Mobile 5.0 some seem to run Windows Mobile 2003 second edition. Is the 2003 second edition the newer software? Best Regards, Taurequis Windows Mobile 5 is the latest version. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
FireFoxx80 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.25 10:53:00 - [15] I seriously considered the Orange mini-PDA's (SPV1000, SPV5000) as I currently own a SPV C500, but the size of them is a little unweildly. The serious alternative is to make sure your phone supports bluetooth. Get the cheapest phone you can find, but bluetooth is fairly important. Then, get a PDA which supports bluetooth (hell, if your office has WiFi, get a PDA that uses that instead). Then use your mobile as a modem for the PDA. A word of warning though, you will _seriously_ chew through your monthly data allowance. Cost me a tenner last time I changed skills via my mobile. PDA software. I have to recommend the excellent UltraVNC for your PC, and whatever the equivalent is for your PDA. Windows CS 2005 has various clones, so it shouldn't be an issue. I imagine anything of a decent spec these days will run Eve Mobile.
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.07.25 11:15:00 - [16] Hi, I'm really not wanting the PDA option. Phone/Camera/EVE play would be what i want it to do.... I thought i heard a thing on the news back about Nokia tieing in with Microsoft to make new phone ranges. Anyone know anything about their new models? I could delay my new phone contract blag for a bit if there are some tastey models coming out. I'm looking at the SPV stuff now.... Taurequis
Lok Ta'car Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.25 11:32:00 - [17] Originally by: lofty29 Ask chribba, he got the entier eve client running on his mobile I've done it too
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.07.25 11:34:00 - [18] Hi again, Found these which look hopeful so far.... SPV C600 SPV M5000 SPV M600 Now the M600 seems to be the bomb....Wi-Fi would mean no silly data transfer charges... I'll keep researching before I try the blag... Best Regards, Taurequis
Khristopher Legio I Mordu Cohort I	Posted - 2006.07.25 13:18:00 - [19] I wonder if Eve would run on a Origami/Windows Ultra Mobile PC.
FireFoxx80 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.25 13:23:00 - [20] Originally by: Khristopher I wonder if Eve would run on a Origami/Windows Ultra Mobile PC. They had HL2 running on it, so I don't see why Eve wouldn't. My SPV C500 run's VNC, and have barely managed to change skills via that. I seriously considered the SPV M600 before I went down the PDA route instead.
Khristopher Legio I Mordu Cohort I	Posted - 2006.07.25 13:37:00 - [21] Originally by: FireFoxx80 Originally by: Khristopher I wonder if Eve would run on a Origami/Windows Ultra Mobile PC. They had HL2 running on it, so I don't see why Eve wouldn't. My SPV C500 run's VNC, and have barely managed to change skills via that. I seriously considered the SPV M600 before I went down the PDA route instead. Wow nice I googled up the HL2 video as well as one of someone running WoW on one. Have to think though that a tablet pc or some sort would be better than an Origami pc. I don't plan on doing it anytime soon but I think my next 'laptop' though will probably be a mac book with bootcamp. I dig the small laptops but I like my power and I'm not a tiny guy anyway so lugging around a normal sized laptop isn't an issue for me. This is not to say however that Eve lite running on PDA's and cellphones would not be hot. Being able to whip out a PDA and swap skills anywhere would be sweet (more so for those short skills and maybe some trading).
Nightly	Posted - 2006.07.25 17:54:00 - [22] Edited by: Nightly on 25/07/2006 17:55:04 Try the M5000 which is (I beleive) the Orange version of the HTC Universal (or Jasjar). It's a Windows Mobile 2005 device and has outlook, voice commander etc on it - handles all my multiple emails really well. You need a bluetooth headset for it though (it's quite bulky and you would look a real ***** holding it to your ear to make a call). I use a cheapo ú10 BT headset (btw-5018) which seems to work fine. Actually the ickle thing is my first PDA and I have become really attahed to it - I can sync it to outlook at home and now keep all my appointments in it. How did I ever do without one? And most of all.... when Eve Mobile arrives I think it will be for Windows Mobile OS initially, so it's perfect EDIT: It has a camera too. I notice you said you don't like it but I know you will fall in love with it if you read some reviews
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:24:00 - [23] Originally by: Nightly Edited by: Nightly on 25/07/2006 17:55:04 Try the M5000 which is (I beleive) the Orange version of the HTC Universal (or Jasjar). It's a Windows Mobile 2005 device and has outlook, voice commander etc on it - handles all my multiple emails really well. You need a bluetooth headset for it though (it's quite bulky and you would look a real *** holding it to your ear to make a call). I use a cheapo ú10 BT headset (btw-5018) which seems to work fine. Actually the ickle thing is my first PDA and I have become really attahed to it - I can sync it to outlook at home and now keep all my appointments in it. How did I ever do without one? And most of all.... when Eve Mobile arrives I think it will be for Windows Mobile OS initially, so it's perfect EDIT: It has a camera too. I notice you said you don't like it but I know you will fall in love with it if you read some reviews Yeah the M500 looks good but the contract looks the poorest from the lot and remember i'm going for a "i'm going to leave your if you dont give me this phone" blag... I especially like the screen size. I'll check the phone shops and see if they have a model i can take a look at. Anyone know of any non Orange phones from the makes i've mentioned that run the windows OS? Taurequis**
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:52:00 - [24] Rite, After a few weeks of threatening to quit ive managed to blag one of these babies for free with a nice new contract... SPV M3100 SO... It arrives today...Just wonder how much I can actually do on it & what is the ETA on EVE Lite? Best Regards, Taur
Ralle030583 Gallente The Phoenix cor Phoenix Allianz	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:33:00 - [25] if eve at PDA comes out i will loose my job because of playing eve at work... i see it coming...
Ralle030583 Gallente The Phoenix cor Phoenix Allianz	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:33:00 - [26] Edited by: Ralle030583 on 29/08/2006 12:33:46 argh doublepost...delete me
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:45:00 - [27] I was looking at the M3100 after a colleague mentioned they weren't on Orange and wanted one. Can you let me know how you get on? I like the idea of wireless, but I know I'll put a key or something through the screen. What I do the rest of the time.
Rhorx	Posted - 2006.08.29 13:16:00 - [28] I have an M600 with a 1GB card. It's a nice phone and not too massive/heavy. It's still slightly larger than the C500/C600 range but then there is so much more functionality. I do hope EvE lite runs on it :)
Golden Jenni	Posted - 2006.08.29 13:21:00 - [29] i have the MDA vario which runs on win mobile 5 has camera and phone with slide out keyboard. the mda vario ll has just been released which is using the new 3g network meaning speeds of up to 1.5mb/sec depending on bandwidth issues in the area you live and what type of cell site you have
Azulios Incarnation of Evil	Posted - 2006.08.29 13:46:00 - [30] How about for the *****Berry? Please? Piracy Stuff, arrrr
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.08.29 16:03:00 - [31] Originally by: Azulios How about for the *****Berry? Please? Blackberry isnt windows mobile 5 as far as I know and the little hazy details we have for "EVE Lite" are that it will be supported by Windows OS running mobiles/PDA's. Would be nice to have a little more info on the rollout and spec needs for EVE Lite thou. (hint hint any Dev reading) Best Regards, Taur
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.08.30 09:22:00 - [32] Got phone - it is sex. Some people mentioned they already had eve working on PDA's and mobiles... How did you do it? Dev's - pls tell us the eta on EVE lite? Taur
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.30 10:57:00 - [33] Via mobile: Either VNC or Remote Desktop. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Jintoo Cranspar	Posted - 2006.08.30 11:24:00 - [34] I use and XDA Mini S from O2 with 2gig MiniSD card that I love. Its a phone, camera, MP3 player, Sat Nav and runs Mobile 5 so I get Word, Excel, Outlook etc for work stuff and can play movies as well. With the slide out keyboard, wifi and bluetooth it is the best phone I have ever owned - especially now I have added a Motorla BT Headset. Looking forward to Eve Lite on the go!
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.09.02 20:45:00 - [35] Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 02/09/2006 20:45:42 Right... Update. I went out and got the M3100 (AKA: HTC Hermes, HTC TyTn, Vodafone VPA Compact III, Vodafone 1605, T-Mobile MDA Vario II, the Cingular 8525) today, on Orange (UK). Other than loosing my old mobile number to 'upgrade' to their new animal packages, it;s gone swimmingly. I've always used UltraVNC on my home PC, which allows me to connect to it from work and change skills, etc. (Think remote desktop/terminal services). The ability to drop down to 256/64/8 colours with compression is pretty sweet, but anyway I ramble. Install the server software on your PC, setup a password, don;t bother with the video hook driver as it messes up DirectX. The M1300 supports both WiFi and 3G/GPRS, I know for a fact that GPRS doesn't have the bandwidth to make Eve playable; 3G and WiFi on the other hand do. Mobile side, get a VNC Viewer that'll run on the WM5 (WindowsMobile5) You can get one from here (note that you want the PocketPC 2003 [ARM] version). I've also seen Java and Symbian versions, so you don't really _need_ a smartphone. VNC is nice and cross-platform. When you have the PocketVNC, copy it to your phone and open it with the File Exporer. That's it I gotta say I am glad I got the M3100. My worries of keying the screen seem unlikely as the screen looks pretty tough. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Shadow Vice	Posted - 2006.09.02 21:57:00 - [36] i know someone working on a set of micro java apps for eve like eve micro market apparentally they work quite nicly but i dunno if he will let me post a linkie
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.10.27 11:34:00 - [37] Originally by: FireFoxx80 Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 02/09/2006 20:45:42 Right... Update. I went out and got the M3100 (AKA: HTC Hermes, HTC TyTn, Vodafone VPA Compact III, Vodafone 1605, T-Mobile MDA Vario II, the Cingular 8525) today, on Orange (UK). Other than loosing my old mobile number to 'upgrade' to their new animal packages, it;s gone swimmingly. I've always used UltraVNC on my home PC, which allows me to connect to it from work and change skills, etc. (Think remote desktop/terminal services). The ability to drop down to 256/64/8 colours with compression is pretty sweet, but anyway I ramble. Install the server software on your PC, setup a password, don;t bother with the video hook driver as it messes up DirectX. The M1300 supports both WiFi and 3G/GPRS, I know for a fact that GPRS doesn't have the bandwidth to make Eve playable; 3G and WiFi on the other hand do. Mobile side, get a VNC Viewer that'll run on the WM5 (WindowsMobile5) You can get one from here (note that you want the PocketPC 2003 [ARM] version). I've also seen Java and Symbian versions, so you don't really _need_ a smartphone. VNC is nice and cross-platform. When you have the PocketVNC, copy it to your phone and open it with the File Exporer. That's it I gotta say I am glad I got the M3100. My worries of keying the screen seem unlikely as the screen looks pretty tough. Hi Again, I just came back to this thread after along time. Thanks for all this info its my next step. You would rate VNC over remote desktop? I'm having some issues with getting my wireless working in my house so ive not ulitlized the phone to the full potential yet (and been a bit lazy). Glad your enjoying it. I will give the VNC software a shot once i'm sure my phone's wi-fi is actually working properly. You had any issues with it? Thanks, Taur
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.10.27 12:06:00 - [38] Originally by: Taurequis Hi Again, I just came back to this thread after along time. Thanks for all this info its my next step. You would rate VNC over remote desktop? I'm having some issues with getting my wireless working in my house so ive not ulitlized the phone to the full potential yet (and been a bit lazy). Glad your enjoying it. I will give the VNC software a shot once i'm sure my phone's wi-fi is actually working properly. You had any issues with it? Thanks, Taur To be honest, other than using it once or twice for checking bittorrent and skill changing; I've not used it much. Remote Desktop, is quiet nice as it's all built into Windows' UI, hence screen updates are pretty good and the ability to resize desktop and such is a boon. However, Remote Desktop is not DirectX compatible, so Eve won't work with this. VNC will push DirectX through, though you will need to make sure you aren't using the 'video hook'/'video mirror' driver, as this disables DirectX. VNC's ability to drop down colours, and ultraVNC does auto-negiotation of compression, is pretty good on slow links. I normally play Eve in '4 shades of grey' mode, as it keeps the refresh rate fairly high. Oh, and remember that VNC is cross platform; you can control PC's from unix boxes, etc. The only issues I've had with wi-fi/VNC on my phone is the battery life. the m3100 has a 'performance vs battery' slider on it, and whacking it upto maximum performance to play Eve seriously drains the battery. I haven't risked it, but I suspect you wouldn't be able to wi-fi on high performance for more than 30 minutes. Incidentally. I do play Eve over wi-fi/VNC a lot from my laptop. The old thing is only a Celeron 700MHz with some crappy IGP, so uncapable of playing it itself. However I connect to my main desktop via VNC, with 4-grey colours, and play that way. Plus it has the bonus that if the wi-fi drops out, I can run into the next room and pickup Eve without a disconnect. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.10.30 10:10:00 - [39] Originally by: FireFoxx80 Originally by: Taurequis Hi Again, I just came back to this thread after along time. Thanks for all this info its my next step. You would rate VNC over remote desktop? I'm having some issues with getting my wireless working in my house so ive not ulitlized the phone to the full potential yet (and been a bit lazy). Glad your enjoying it. I will give the VNC software a shot once i'm sure my phone's wi-fi is actually working properly. You had any issues with it? Thanks, Taur To be honest, other than using it once or twice for checking bittorrent and skill changing; I've not used it much. Remote Desktop, is quiet nice as it's all built into Windows' UI, hence screen updates are pretty good and the ability to resize desktop and such is a boon. However, Remote Desktop is not DirectX compatible, so Eve won't work with this. VNC will push DirectX through, though you will need to make sure you aren't using the 'video hook'/'video mirror' driver, as this disables DirectX. VNC's ability to drop down colours, and ultraVNC does auto-negiotation of compression, is pretty good on slow links. I normally play Eve in '4 shades of grey' mode, as it keeps the refresh rate fairly high. Oh, and remember that VNC is cross platform; you can control PC's from unix boxes, etc. The only issues I've had with wi-fi/VNC on my phone is the battery life. the m3100 has a 'performance vs battery' slider on it, and whacking it upto maximum performance to play Eve seriously drains the battery. I haven't risked it, but I suspect you wouldn't be able to wi-fi on high performance for more than 30 minutes. Incidentally. I do play Eve over wi-fi/VNC a lot from my laptop. The old thing is only a Celeron 700MHz with some crappy IGP, so uncapable of playing it itself. However I connect to my main desktop via VNC, with 4-grey colours, and play that way. Plus it has the bonus that if the wi-fi drops out, I can run into the next room and pickup Eve without a disconnect. Really good info again. I've been trying to test my wi-fo by "borrowing" people's in my neighbourhood to some sucess, so i'm pretty sure my router is just wack. Have you tried undocking at all and flying about from your phone? I wanted to be able to refuel a pos while away from home with it... Taur

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