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Scion Atrella
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Posted - 2003.10.06 03:52:00 -
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(NOTE: This thread is not intended to discriminate against either sex, or one playing the other, or visa-versa. This is mearly a statistical gathering for my own reference.)
It seems to me, that every female character I have come across in EVE was actually played by a boy/man. I have never asked 'why' that was, when diclosed, however, I was told that the player would rather look at the image of a female, than a male. It would seem to me, that one does not often look upon themselves, gazingly, except on login. The chat portraits are obviously too small to 'gaze' upon ones-self, and one usually has more important matters at/in hand when training skills.
Please, I would like to know if and perhaps how many actual females play EVE. (Note: I am not looking for an online romance, just facts/truth.)
You see, I feel like when upon some level of commradery w/ an apparent character of the opposite sex, that I was just put on stage of the J. Springer show. And when I find out she is a he, I feel deceived..
Why is that?
And, on some level, do males just like to play girl?
Scion...
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Tiberius Hoodey
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Posted - 2003.10.06 04:00:00 -
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I'd personally be worried about any guys who play girls |
Tiberius Hoodey
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Posted - 2003.10.06 04:01:00 -
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But the ones who play girl characters...and ACT like females....well, they have some issues to tend to. |
Cao Cao
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Posted - 2003.10.06 04:05:00 -
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I have a female alt character on my second account. She is trained up as a manufacturer (prod eff.), refiner (refinery eff.) and uber mining skills.
The reason I made it a female char is because I view that char as my servant. I see her as being my personal serving girl who builds my ships, and mines / refines my ore. Oh yeah, did I mention she cooks my food and does my laundry too.
Anyway, yeah, that's why I made a female char on my second account.
(incidentally, my "buffbot" in Dark Age of Camelot was also a female char, for similar reasons.)
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Tabius
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Posted - 2003.10.06 04:19:00 -
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Edited by: Tabius on 06/10/2003 04:20:06 EDITED BECAUSE THE F'N FILTER RUINED THE JOKE!
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Sarae
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Posted - 2003.10.06 04:29:00 -
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Edited by: Sarae on 06/10/2003 04:30:35 Why does it matter?
Are you hitting on female characters in-game?
If so, I think you might be the one with the problem, if this game is what you are using for a pool of potential mates.
I always have to laugh when people bring this topic up, and then are so quick to jump on males playing female chars for "having problems". Do you really think in a game with spaceships, people are all that sexually tied in to their characters? Maybe the people so quick to point out the "problems" in those men playing female characters have some sexual identity issues they are trying to cover up?
BTW, I won't say if I'm male or female IRL. If I said I was female, you wouldn't believe me. If I said I was male, you'd assume I was homosexual. So I leave it up to your imagination.
PS. The bad word filter gets a three-letter synonym for homosexual? That's pretty ridiculous.
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Red Rasputin
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Posted - 2003.10.06 04:47:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Sarae on 06/10/2003 04:30:35 Why does it matter?
Are you hitting on female characters in-game?
If so, I think you might be the one with the problem, if this game is what you are using for a pool of potential mates.
Please read the man's original post. Then you'll find you can just delete your meaningless reply...
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Ashlerviu
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Posted - 2003.10.06 04:57:00 -
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hehe, it's so interesting to read the forums. I'm an actual girl that plays eve, and I would never ever play a guy character, didn't play a guy on DAOC either. I guess some ppl just like to be hit on by pretending they are girls?
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.06 04:59:00 -
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I'm more interested in knowing if there are any females playing under male avatars to avoid being sexed up against a warpgate by an eager beaver fitted for max loadout without the cap to match.
Convert Stations
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Sarae
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Posted - 2003.10.06 05:08:00 -
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Quote: I'd personally be worried about any guys who play girls
Quote: But the ones who play girl characters...and ACT like females....well, they have some issues to tend to.
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Quote: Please read the man's original post. Then you'll find you can just delete your meaningless reply...
Go away, Rasputin-troll.
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Scion Atrella
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Posted - 2003.10.06 05:13:00 -
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Sarae,
If it doesn't matter, then why did you reply? LOL, you ask me if I am hitting on F chars in the game when I clearly stated otherwise. If I were single, which I am not, and using the internet to "pool mates," I would fancy rather using H-or-not.com. But thanks for the presumps, my wife would say that too!
I do like your response though, It is quite motivated, and clearly indicates emotional fueling. Perhaps I have offended you? Why is that? Want to talk about it?
You say I am "quick to jump," but yet you have trouble reading a clearly tactfull post. Did you not read my disclaimer?
as for your BTW conclusion, why would I ask for the truth, if I didn't really beleive I would get it? Kindof a waste of tappin the keys in the first place, don't you think?
Thanks,
Scion...
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Sarae
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Posted - 2003.10.06 05:17:00 -
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Ok, let me make this more clear, since obviously people aren't getting it.
I was responding to Tiberius, not Scion.
Capiche?
As to why I responded, well, I am a female character. And this same thread in some form or another always seems to show up in every MMORPG that's ever released. I just find it funny that it's even an issue.
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Scion Atrella
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Posted - 2003.10.06 05:28:00 -
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Sarae,
Yes, I can tell your a female character. And no, its not an *issue.* More like throwing a hotdog down a hallway to see if it touches all the sides....
Scion...
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Tiberius Hoodey
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Posted - 2003.10.06 06:01:00 -
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Seriously, we were merely commenting on the matter. Only a female would get this emotional over it.
btw, cao cao... i like your concept for having a female character...funny stuff. |
Tsingtau
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Posted - 2003.10.06 06:46:00 -
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I personally have an alt that is a female. my reason behind it is most everyone treats you different when they see a female portrait. folks are nicer..willing to help out more. although I rarely use the alt its always there for corp negotiations as most male characters find it hard to refuse a girl.
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Singular
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Posted - 2003.10.06 06:57:00 -
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^^ Pefect example of a Gamma male.
Im Yo Huckleberreh |
Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.10.06 07:14:00 -
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Im sure Pann plays, and she is a woman
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2003.10.06 07:15:00 -
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This is such a stupid topic, yet it comes up in EVERY online game at least once a month.
You say:
Quote: And when I find out she is a he, I feel deceived..
Guess what? Chances are that person you have been talking to isn't from the Ryddinjorn system, and never attended the Pator Tech School, either. In fact, they have probably never left Earth!
The roleplaying encyclopedia Reference defines roleplaying as:
Quote: Roleplay, simply put, is the action of playing out an imaginary role in an imaginary world. This is similar to being an actor in a play or to playing "cowboys and indians" as a child. It is a game -- Something done for enjoyment with a group of friends.
Dictionary.com (reference) defines roleplaying as:
Quote: To assume or act out a particular role
You ask why? Why did you choose to be Amarr? The whole point is to be something you are not. Well, most of us guys aren't women. The fact that you assume a female character MUST be played by a female person, and feel "decieved" when you find out they aren't says more about you than it does about the person in question.
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
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Thanatar Thed
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Posted - 2003.10.06 08:55:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Sarae on 06/10/2003 04:30:35 Why does it matter?
Are you hitting on female characters in-game?
If so, I think you might be the one with the problem, if this game is what you are using for a pool of potential mates.
I always have to laugh when people bring this topic up, and then are so quick to jump on males playing female chars for "having problems". Do you really think in a game with spaceships, people are all that sexually tied in to their characters? Maybe the people so quick to point out the "problems" in those men playing female characters have some sexual identity issues they are trying to cover up?
BTW, I won't say if I'm male or female IRL. If I said I was female, you wouldn't believe me. If I said I was male, you'd assume I was homosexual. So I leave it up to your imagination.
PS. The bad word filter gets a three-letter synonym for homosexual? That's pretty ridiculous.
I'de say you're female. Your post is far to well written to be a bloke.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.10.06 09:34:00 -
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Hehe Sc0rpion very true!
It's all just RP... as long as you treat it as a game then you have no problems.
I personally enjoy interacting with the Gallente wenches - some of who are very interesting characters ie. Miso, Jade, Daes etc...
TBH I dont wanna know if they are really 'female' or not coz then it spoils the RP element
Now if I was looking for a rl romance/date out of EVE then it would be a bit different...but I am not... a/s/l everyone?
By the way to the guy who doubts any real ladies play this game I know at least three 'real' girls playing this game.
One is an ex-corp member (who still plays), one is a current corp member (YES PIE has a real life female - woohoo!) and the other is a rl GF of a prominent community member - and I will not accept bribes for their names
Safest thing to do is assume that every female character you talk to is a rl male and act appropriately...
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Trixxy
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Posted - 2003.10.06 09:54:00 -
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Edited by: Trixxy on 06/10/2003 10:04:26 The answer to why a person would play a character of opposite gender: (yes, there ARE women who play male characters): Simply because they CAN.
RP games are played to escape the constraints of real life, and to play a ROLE. (Your post was very well stated Scorpion - couldn't have said it better myself).
Personally, I ignore any posts to do with real-life photographs. I don't want to know about the real life person behind the character. I like to know the character for itself, and let its own personality speak through. When I start finding out too much about the real-life person, it starts shattering the illusion of the online world, which kind of defeats the object. If I wanted 'real people' I'd spend time in chatrooms instead of online games (yeh yeh, I know, chatrooms containing people 'being themselves' is also a laughable concept).
Nothing like seeing that the well-spoken suave man that you have so much respect for in-game is actually a real-life buck-tooth pimply teenager with dandruff and coke-bottle glasses. Now THAT really shatters illusions.
My married partner and I both played opposite-sex characters in DAoC, and both of us found it interesting in terms of escape and role-play. (I use the deliberately ambiguous terminology of 'partner' as I feel it irrelevant to reveal my real-life gender. It's the role and the character that counts).
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.10.06 10:07:00 -
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Edited by: Miso on 06/10/2003 10:12:16 Why does it matter?
trixxy - i agree with you completely. -------------------------------------------- Dead
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raglah
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Posted - 2003.10.06 10:37:00 -
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Edited by: raglah on 06/10/2003 10:39:47 I agree with scorpion's post but could I point out that [ as per trixxys post]this is supposed to be a ROLE playing game and many of you just don't get it? or won't RP. In the elizabethan periods all actors where male yes they played females! In other online games I've played many men and women have used role reversal to enjoy the game. WHO likes simpsons? bart is voiced over by a female? yes i agree those that have a problem have never tried to act out [or act]and it reflects the present day life.. rember this is a game it is an play? its not real??? Raglah
New Dawn Mining Division. "we dig it" |
Archon Stormrage
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Posted - 2003.10.06 11:19:00 -
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About 10% of my corp is made up of female members and half of those play male characters just to prevent any crap some ppl like to give either from thinking your a dirty bloke or something else.
Doesn't bother me either way, the wanting to look at a female argument is reasonable to me and I also have 1 female character but I haven't used her in over a month now.
Why the fuss from some of you people?
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tigress
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Posted - 2003.10.06 11:33:00 -
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Hell i got a female caracter just to be able to be the CEO-***** and leathermistress telling peons what to do. I like the hive-mind thing, and ants ant bees all have queens right?
:) --
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Dajjal
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Posted - 2003.10.06 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Dajjal on 06/10/2003 12:42:59 From another perspective...
A male person sitting making a male character on the selection screen can be construed as questionable... selecting physical attributes and other features to make a male character 'attractive' to them could hint at latent homosexuality to certain people - "i like my men with more pronounced chins or with a macho sneer" for instance.
Thus, the choice here is to create a female character as this is far more heterosexual. Actually 'designing' a woman which appeals to him can be seen as a far more natural process - "i like my women with large eyes or with full lips".
Once the character is complete it matters not if they are male or female as neither gets any advantage (or disadvantage for that matter). The initial design is the main element in choosing a character and not what playing that character will be like 'in-game'.
Finding out a female character is male, irl, is no more surprising than finding out a male character is male.
The above are examples. The reality will fall somewhere inbetween for the vast majority of people. Men dont develop br3asts from opting to play a female character and neither are all men are g4y for playing a male character.
*Edit* for some reason the words for "female mammory glands" and "men prefering the company of other men" were censored automatically - somewhat draconian as i cant see why either word is offensive... _______________________
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.06 13:14:00 -
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"I'd personally be worried about any guys who play girls"
I agree.
I talked to those playing female avatars as if I'm talking to a male player, until they tell me they are truly a famale player.
I tend "stay away" from female characters played by males, just does not feel right.
"Trust No One" |
var'ulfur
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Posted - 2003.10.06 13:18:00 -
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lol guy playing girls girls playing guys it dont matter the real reason they do it is a male players will give a female a better deal and are more likly to help a female player. its in the male genes to help females. would i ever play a female avatar no. i think it is lame to be somthing your not,but to each his or her own. |
jason hill
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Posted - 2003.10.06 13:36:00 -
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seems to me that some of you out there that play this GAME have some real problems in real life .Whatever happend to just being yourself ???
"THE HUMAN SHIELD" |
Tigrana Blanque
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Posted - 2003.10.06 13:40:00 -
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Quote: ...i think it is lame to be somthing your not,but to each his or her own.
Wow, so you really ARE a Caldari spacefaring pilot for real?
Avatars reduce gender to the same level as racial choice (as here, or as "elf", "human", "dwarf" etc. categories elsewhere), clothing choice, looks choice, haircolor, eyecolor, etc. Its all windowdressing, part of generating a particular character but not even the part that influences the character's abilities like attributes...and nothing more. Its not like a high charisma character must be good looking or a high willpower character looks stronger (although there are racial modifiers, those are just different seeding points really).
I'd think those who get uptight about it have the bigger issue than those who don't care one way or the other, but then I'm biased since I'm in the latter category.
And for the record I do know some females IRL who play Eve behind male avatars so it does work 'both ways'. Reasons might be a little different (some tell me its to avoid being hit on or treated like a 'girl'.) If as they commonly say the gaming community is more male biased there probably are more going M->F than F->M simply based on the available numbers. But a quantitative study might find percentages aren't that different at all.
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