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        |  CCP Guard
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 12:43:00 -
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 CCP Greyscale has been reading your feedback on his recent starbase management blog, and brings you news of changes based on that feedback. Check it out here, and please leave your feedback and thoughts as always.
 
 P.s. Oh, and it's now 6 days until Crucible!
 CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer
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        |  Zyrbalax III
 Goldcrest Enterprises
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 12:45:00 -
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 First?
 
 
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        |  Dealor
 WEPRA CORP
 White Noise.
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 12:46:00 -
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 Druglab... here i come!
 
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        |  Caghji
 Science and Trade Institute
 Caldari State
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 12:47:00 -
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 CCP Guard wrote:CCP Greyscale has been reading your feedback on his recent starbase management blog , and brings you news of changes based on that feedback. Check it out here , and please leave your feedback and thoughts as always. P.s. Oh, and it's now 6 days until Crucible! 
 
 What is the m3 of each fuel block please?
 
 
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        |  Elistea
 Seedless Inc
 Shadow of xXDEATHXx
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 12:50:00 -
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 Hmm this changes things.
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        |  CCP Greyscale
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 12:55:00 -
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 Caghji wrote:CCP Guard wrote:CCP Greyscale has been reading your feedback on his recent starbase management blog , and brings you news of changes based on that feedback. Check it out here , and please leave your feedback and thoughts as always. P.s. Oh, and it's now 6 days until Crucible! What is the m3 of each fuel block please? 
 It... uh...
 
 LOOK! A THING! OVER THERE
 
 Ok check the blog again it totally lists the size there too.
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        |  Jason Edwards
 Internet Tough Guy
 Spreadsheets Online
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 12:56:00 -
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 my base in the stars getting tweaked on updates.
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        |  Hiram Alexander
 Seraphim Securities
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 12:57:00 -
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 When will the bpo's go up for sale, so that we can start getting ready...?
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        |  Ender Sai
 Foetus Mart
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 13:00:00 -
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 These devblogs are filling me with a strange joy that I cannot describe!
 
 \o/
 
 Also first page.
 
 Also starbase changes!!!!!zomg!
 
 EDIT:
 Also, I think Greyscale is winning.
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        |  Salpun
 Paramount Commerce
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 13:02:00 -
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 CCP Greyscale wrote:Caghji wrote:CCP Guard wrote:CCP Greyscale has been reading your feedback on his recent starbase management blog , and brings you news of changes based on that feedback. Check it out here , and please leave your feedback and thoughts as always. P.s. Oh, and it's now 6 days until Crucible! What is the m3 of each fuel block please? It... uh... LOOK! A THING! OVER THERE Ok check the blog again it totally lists the size there too. That was for the old size. So 5m3 each now? Ninja edit lol.
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        |  Chaos Incarnate
 Faceless Logistics
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 13:11:00 -
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 Where exactly are the blueprints for the fuel blocks going to be seeded?
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        |  Chigger Troutslayer
 Internet Spaceship Gamers
 Shadow of xXDEATHXx
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 13:11:00 -
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 Faction tower fuel savings was addressed. Does this mean we will also get a fuel use bonus for Sov?
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        |  Neo Agricola
 BLACK-MARK
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 13:18:00 -
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 Chaos Incarnate wrote:Where exactly are the blueprints for the fuel blocks going to be seeded? 
 CCP Guard wrote:P.s. Oh, and it's now 6 days until Crucible!
 
 
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        |  Maul555
 Nuts and Vindictive
 Remix Technologies
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 13:19:00 -
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 w00t... thanks for saving that faction fuel bonus and pushing back the deployment of the new fuel blocks... I was worried that there wouldn't be enough time to get ready...
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        |  Kirisin Belloruus
 Atlantean Technologies Inc.
 Spectrum Alliance
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 13:29:00 -
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 Maul555 wrote:w00t... thanks for saving that faction fuel bonus and pushing back the deployment of the new fuel blocks... I was worried that there wouldn't be enough time to get ready... 
 They told us they had taken care of those concerns in the first dev blog about this... :P
 
 Be nice not having to worry about so many different fuel types, and the new timers... BEEEEYAAAAAA!!!!!
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        |  Caghji
 Science and Trade Institute
 Caldari State
 
 1
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.11.23 13:37:00 -
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 CCP Greyscale wrote:Caghji wrote:CCP Guard wrote:CCP Greyscale has been reading your feedback on his recent starbase management blog , and brings you news of changes based on that feedback. Check it out here , and please leave your feedback and thoughts as always. P.s. Oh, and it's now 6 days until Crucible! What is the m3 of each fuel block please? It... uh... LOOK! A THING! OVER THERE Ok check the blog again it totally lists the size there too. 
 
 blog says
 Quote:- is this right?Blocks will be 50m3 each. 
 so for one large tower 50*40*24*7= 33600m3 of fuel for one week
 
 Would really love these blocks to be smaller otherwise there is no real change to the time for us haulers
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        |  Archare
 SKEET ELITE
 
 3
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.11.23 13:39:00 -
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 CCP Greyscale wrote:Caghji wrote:CCP Guard wrote:CCP Greyscale has been reading your feedback on his recent starbase management blog , and brings you news of changes based on that feedback. Check it out here , and please leave your feedback and thoughts as always. P.s. Oh, and it's now 6 days until Crucible! What is the m3 of each fuel block please? It... uh... LOOK! A THING! OVER THERE Ok check the blog again it totally lists the size there too. 
 SQUIRREL!
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        |  Neo Agricola
 BLACK-MARK
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 13:39:00 -
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 Caghji wrote:blog says  Quote:Blocks will be 50m3 each.  - is this right? so for one tower 50*40*24*7= 33600m3 of fuel for one week 
 Quote:GÇóFuel blocks are now 5m3 rather tha 50m3
 
 
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        |  Yophant
 Shadow of xXDEATHXx
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 13:40:00 -
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 Chigger Troutslayer wrote:Faction tower fuel savings was addressed. Does this mean we will also get a fuel use bonus for Sov? I have the same question. Will there be a Sov bonus to fuel consumption?
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        |  Charles Javeroux
 INTERSTELLAR CREDIT
 Interstellar Trade Syndicate
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 13:47:00 -
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 Yay....this old POS system is finally getting some much needed love.
 
 Thank you CCP for listening the people
 
 Love and peace
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        |  Apollo Gabriel
 Mercatoris
 Etherium Cartel
 
 282
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.11.23 13:51:00 -
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 Great work CCP.
 Let us eat cake! -áI mean open containers in corp hangers please ...
 Let us stack all modules (eliminate repackaging), except damaged ones, give them a red hue/icon.
 Let us see damaged drones in our drone bay!
 
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        |  Mashie Saldana
 Veto.
 Veto Corp
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 13:54:00 -
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 Will the sov reduction still work with the new smaller blocks?
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        |  Akrasjel Lanate
 Naquatech Conglomerate
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 14:01:00 -
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 Caghji wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Caghji wrote:CCP Guard wrote:CCP Greyscale has been reading your feedback on his recent starbase management blog , and brings you news of changes based on that feedback. Check it out here , and please leave your feedback and thoughts as always. P.s. Oh, and it's now 6 days until Crucible! What is the m3 of each fuel block please? It... uh... LOOK! A THING! OVER THERE Ok check the blog again it totally lists the size there too. blog says  Quote:Blocks will be 50m3 each.  - is this right? so for one large tower 50*40*24*7= 33600m3 of fuel for one week Would really love these blocks to be smaller otherwise there is no real change to the time for us haulers 
 OMG... Read the blog
 
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        |  Scrapyard Bob
 EVE University
 Ivy League
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 14:11:00 -
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 Note: They're only giving us 2 weeks to load the towers up with new fuel blocks. So by Dec 13th, you will need to have prepared at least a few day's worth of new fuel pellets (or buy off the market).
 
 I suggest doing a few days of ME research on your fuel BPOs starting on Nov 28th, producing a week's worth of fuel pellets, then go back to ME research for another few days. Make another week's worth of fuel pellets, then go back and finish out a few more days of ME/PE research on the BPO.
 
 By Dec 11th-12th - you will want to have loaded at least 5-7 days worth of fuel pellets into all of your towers, but leave the rest of the fuel bay filled with the old-style fuel types. This is the so-called half-n-half approach. After the switchover happens (supposedly on Dec 13th), go out to your towers, remove the old-style fuel types, fill the tower up with the new fuel pellets.
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        |  Two step
 Aperture Harmonics
 K162
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 14:20:00 -
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 The original blog said the block BPOS were going to be in Thukker Mix stations. Does that include their highsec/lowsec stations, or will it only be in 0.0 stations?
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        |  Vyktor Abyss
 The Abyss Corporation
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 14:22:00 -
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 Just to reiterate on what I said in earlier blogs; in principle I support this change and am glad you're making the sums easier for POS operators (although there is an extra step now with fuel block production).
 
 Please consider iterating/overhauling POS VERY SOON though, especially by breaking up their functions into other structures, with differing fuel requirements. POS should not be the swiss army knife structure they currently are, IMHO and I'd like to see you have a range of structure with differing attributes for the differing functions (such as moon mining, reacting, T3 production, Labs, Capital production etc etc etc).
 
 Cheers.
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        |  Brunaburh
 Aurora Security
 Transstellar Operations
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 14:28:00 -
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 Although I am glad you listened to the concerns about block size and faction towers, there still remains one significant issue, which is the fuel consumption.
 
 Riptard Teg covered it in a blog post, if you aren't running a full grid/full cpu tower (as in probably 90% of towers out there) there are significant changes to cost since you aren't allowing for fuel variance in the ice products.
 
 I want to say this again, I love the idea of fuel blocks.
 
 I don't love the idea that fuel isn't variable based on CPU/Grid usage.
 
 I mean really, you think after all these years it would be so hard to make a fuel block of all the static fuels and just have to measure Ozone and Heavy Water?
 
 Fuel blocks should combine the PI materials and the Isotopes (all static measured fuels today), and then the ozone and heavy water should be variable (as it is today) based on usage.
 
 It's not that complicated. It's also not 75-IQ stupid, which means it requires thought and planning, things that EVE is known for (in a good way).
 
 Fuel blocks would still be racial due to the isotope inclusion.
 
 Please?
 
 EDIT WTF? I can't link the damn url. BBCODE failure??
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        |  TorTorden
 NorCorp Enterprise
 No Holes Barred
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 14:30:00 -
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 1
 And 50*40*24*7= 336000 not 33600 so if that was true this thread would already be at page 10..
 
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 Actualy I dont see why we would need to have these pellets recycleable, if they where unrecyclable compression becomes a non issue and you could have made them 0.5 m3 (change tower capacity accordingly) And made alot of lives easier.
 
 If they require the same stuff market value would remain the same.
 
 RP wise I would think of it like I was taking the energy from the reactions currently running in the tower to pellet manufacturing and put the needed energy into batteries.
 
 I know it wont happen cause someone over at ccp think flying freighters are awesome....
 
 
 Scrapyard Bob wrote:Note: They're only giving us 2 weeks to load the towers up with new fuel blocks. So by Dec 13th, you will need to have prepared at least a few day's worth of new fuel pellets (or buy off the market).
 I suggest doing a few days of ME research on your fuel BPOs starting on Nov 28th, producing a week's worth of fuel pellets, then go back to ME research for another few days. Make another week's worth of fuel pellets, then go back and finish out a few more days of ME/PE research on the BPO.
 
 By Dec 11th-12th - you will want to have loaded at least 5-7 days worth of fuel pellets into all of your towers, but leave the rest of the fuel bay filled with the old-style fuel types. This is the so-called half-n-half approach. After the switchover happens (supposedly on Dec 13th), go out to your towers, remove the old-style fuel types, fill the tower up with the new fuel pellets.
 
 I doubt these prints would be expensive so we will just buy two sets, send one off for me research the other will start production immediatly.
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        |  Jack Dant
 The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 14:30:00 -
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 Any chance we can get the BPOs seeded on Sisi?
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        |  SuperSpy00bob
 North Eastern Swat
 Pandemic Legion
 
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       | Posted - 2011.11.23 14:31:00 -
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 Mashie Saldana wrote:Will the sov reduction still work with the new smaller blocks? 
 Not emptyquoting.
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